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    Mt Manganui Street Races 1962 - 1963.

    Going through this thread - from " Oldfart's " Inquiry.

    These photos from Graeme Kennish archives - Allan Dick had posted them and indicated it was 1964.
    From comments here It seems that the track was used in 1962 - 1963.

    Jaguar and Zephyr .. Alistair McBeath #66 and Sprague had #51 in 1962

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    Small Saloon Car field, Austin A40's, a VW, Anglia's, Mini's. - 1962 - [ not as noted on the photo- to be corrected ].

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    J Murphy in his Anglia #34 - attacking the Haybales. He is entered in 1963 as #34 Anglia with a 1640cc engine

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    Need to check the details against the Entry Lists from GD66 and Milan Fistonic copied below

    December 1962 - the last weekend of the year which became the traditional date for the Big Baypark meeting.

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    December 1963

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    I have a couple of Newspaper /Motorman articles which I show as being 1964 .. buy guess published in January 1964 about the December 28th, 1963 Event ??
    Last edited by Roger Dowding; 09-05-2022 at 04:29 AM. Reason: 28 Dec 1963 ...###47

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    The two Mount Maunganui events were held on December 29, 1962 and December 28, 1963.

    The cars in the second photo are:

    Kerry Grant - A40
    Paul Fahey - VW
    Morrie Hogan - Anglia
    Neil Johns - Mini
    Brian Ax - A40

    They finished in the order Grant, Johns, Hogan, Murray Charles and AX. Fahey retired on lap 3.
    Last edited by Milan Fistonic; 09-03-2022 at 09:04 AM.

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    December 29, 1962 and December 28, 1963. Mt Maunganui Street Circuit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milan Fistonic View Post
    The two Mount Maunganui events were held on December 29, 1962 and December 28, 1963.

    The cars in the second photo are:

    Kerry Grant - A40
    Paul Fahey - VW
    Morrie Hogan - Anglia
    Neil Johns - Mini
    Brian Ax - A40

    They finished in the order Grant, Johns, Hogan, Murray Charles and AX. Fahey retired on lap 3.
    Thanks Milan, noticed two VW entries in the 1962 event.

    C M Hogan - The Ford " Anglia " was a 997cc in 1962 and a 1498cc in 1963 - presume as the Allardette was Supercharged and they put a 1.5 ratio on the cc's of supercharged cars. Was it the same Anglia just with the Allard supercharger kit or a new car ??

    Allard under Sidney Allard's son [ Allan Allard ] have made recreations of the Allardette in recent years.

    Photos from a 2019 Edition of Octane Magazine
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    Mt Maunganui - the Street Races 1962 - 1963.

    A photo has emerged at the Mount Circuit with a Jaguar Mk2 and a Humber 80 number #54.
    Some discussion about the car as originally noted as the Archibald Jaguar.

    Humber 80 - in 1962 a Humber had race #54 driven by R W Fuller, in 1963 it was Dennis Marwood race number.
    Simon Taylor ran a Jaguar Mk 2 in 1962 - Race #33.
    Alister Mcbeath ran one as Race #66 in 1962 - his car did not have the nose covering.

    So ... Who is it ???

    The Photo; Car Race number on the Jaguar looks like " #50 "
    Note ; Plate is " 708.158 " not as on photo - had to magnify to read it properly and is not the plate that McBeath had " 239.322 "

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    Last edited by Roger Dowding; 09-05-2024 at 12:08 AM. Reason: Plates and Race #50 .. ###47

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    The Photo; I was there beside the road when the Stanton rode up the rear wheel of the David Young Cooper clearly I remember seeing the underside of the car as it flipped. Matich pulled up looked around the moved on. From then on the marshal had no difficulty getting the spectators to move back!! it could easily have been a 1955 Lemans. The Stanton crashed down the other side of the road amongst the logs.

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    The number on the Jaguar is 50. It's John Ward's car from 1963.

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    Jaguar and Humber at Totara Street Hull Road Corner - Mt Maunganui 1963.

    Milan, thank you

    " The number on the Jaguar is 50. It's John Ward's car from 1963. "
    Interestingly the photo of the Jaguar #50 and the Humber #54 featured in the Motorman report on the Event.
    Here is the same photo - image from John Climo archives.

    Also note that the other Humber that was #54 in 1962 of R Fuller was in the race at #52.

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    Would like to have images of the rest of the races - to fill in a few gaps in " The Knowledge ".

    Whose car was it, before John Ward got it - has similar nose protection to the Archibald Jaguar and others of the time.

    Here from Levin 1960 - not sure who - not Simon Taylor [ in my opinion ** see Milan's note and entry list post #48 - next one ] as he didn't seem to protect his car at events. seems like he did. !

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    Last edited by Roger Dowding; 09-06-2024 at 11:45 PM. Reason: Notes S Taylor ###47

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    Here from Levin 1960 - not sure who - not Simon Taylor [ in my opinion ] as he didn't seem to protect his car at events

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    Probably this race from the November 1960 meeting at Levin.

    I can see Zephyr 41, Singer 34, Simca Aronde 7, Jaguar 45 (Simon Taylor), Mini 67, Morris Minor 65? and possibly the A40 next to the Jaguar.

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