Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

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[John McKechnie]

Angus looks so docile in a white XJC

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Not too docile John. First pic in the above set has the inside front almost in the air - pretty good for an XJS I would have thought - and this was quite early on.

This pic also taken at 10:18am... One wheel up.

[John McKechnie]

Nah, he could see you with the camera and gave you a good moment...hes an excellent host.
Hope Les was watching.

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Just got back home(Sunday)I too had an interesting day as well, quite a few people asked where HMC and HSC were and in fact most thought we were supposed to be apart of the program and stunned to find us not there, I explained that after last years mismanagement, disorganization and been left out of any formal information until a month out, we(like F5000, FJ, HSS, ERC/Arrows) decide it wasn't us anymore..........let alone this years massive proposed entry cost been asking around mid last year, just to find out that the SI Touring car group were subsidized or they wouldn't come..........bizarre.

I got told yesterdays crowd(Saturday) was larger but to be quite honest I thought in reality there was really no one there in proportion today...........a very piss poor crowd considering the advertising and high profile........I can see some marketing people getting hauled over the coals id say....LOL

Still, for me after 7 years of back to back weekends every January plus organizing Australian Trans Am over four times I was more than happy to wander around, chatting and having NO part of any of the organizing or any racing group.........I felt really good and enjoyed my day. Was also great to catch up with Jim Richards, Charlie O'Brien and others too.

Also an interesting note, most I spoke with knew little about the Taupo event too........based on that I'm not expecting it to be a spectator haven...........oh well next week will tell.

PS: didn't know Hampton was for sale again, certainly no talk about it from anyone today!

Hi Dale, The Touring car grid also declined this at the AGM last year due to proposed high entry fees. I still struggle how when organising a 'Bathurst' festival this group wasn't organised to be part of it. Anyway it was only at the 101 when I was chatting with one of the guys from Hampton over a beer he said that they needed them, and due to the last minute nature of it they offered a carrot.

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I also contacted the producers of the programme. It was HD who provided the information - or lack of it.

I'm not sure about others, but I hate it when the entrant list (such as it was) is scattered all over the programme.

Will anyone at HD seek feedback or listen to the grizzles? Was the programme detail supplied by secretarial staff or someone who understands the purpose of a race programme, or has any interest at all in the sport?

Has planning started yet for 2019, before the various race groups do their own calendar and will any lessons have been learned from 2 generally unsatisfactory Festivals?

All vey well offering a carrot at the last minute, but they needed a bunch of carrots, as I for one will probably skip next year, for the first time - and ditto, the October 101. One hiccup is a hiccup, two less than satisfactory Festivals on the trot looks, grim, so unless the game is lifted sky high for 2019, support for the January Festival is going to evaporate totally, and that is very, very sad.

[Andrew Metford]

Will anyone at HD seek feedback or listen to the grizzles?

No.

They didn't listen before either, long before the track was sold. They sent out an email survey / questionnaire after the festival 3 or 4 years ago, asking a string of questions, and then the last section you could write whatever you wanted. I gave them a good list of the problems I saw, and an idea to fix each one. Never heard boo back from them, and each subsequent Festival has never had any of the problems even addressed, let alone rectified. As I said in the other thread ( What's the answer? ), this was the first festival I haven't been to. I used to come back from Perth especially for them, this time I was home ( for good ). It's going to need a pretty spectacular turn around of a lot of things to get me back to another one as well.

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A quick skip back to break things up a bit. Apologies if any have been posted before.







Triumph Dove GT.
The internal pre '66 GRRC members car park at the Goodwood Revival, is trackside, but not too large and always worth a good look. I missed it in 2016 as there is no tractor stop there! In 2009, I had my youngest brother in tow (he's the slim one on the right) and I didn't really have the time to dawdle.




Triumph Italia. The external public pre '66 car park at the Goodwood Revival often has some real gems. Hopefully this year, I'll somehow or other manage to walk around a bit of it instead of just passing through - though my feet do get rather tired with so much standing and walking!

[Roger Dowding]

A quick skip back to break things up a bit. Apologies if any have been posted before.







Triumph Dove GT.
The internal pre '66 GRRC members car park at the Goodwood Revival, is trackside, but not too large and always worth a good look. I missed it in 2016 as there is no tractor stop there! In 2009, I had my youngest brother in tow (he's the slim one on the right) and I didn't really have the time to dawdle.




Triumph Italia. The external public pre '66 car park at the Goodwood Revival often has some real gems. Hopefully this year, I'll somehow or other manage to walk around a bit of it instead of just passing through - though my feet do get rather tired with so much standing and walking!

A " Triumph - ant " collection, have owned a GT6 [MK3 ] and a TR4A Targa/ Surrey top Roadster, believe there is /was one TR4 Dove in NZ a few years ago, never ever seen it.

[John McKechnie]

Roger.....Dove featured in NZ Classic Car Mag a couple of years ago. Frank is the owner, was here for years.

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Pic #5 Roger = NZ! DG 6090 taken at Western Springs February 2014.

[Roger Dowding]

Pic #5 Roger - NZ! DG 6090 taken at Western Springs.

ERC and John, thanks,
Presume the Car is still around the " Dove GT ",must watch out for it. I was a member of the New Zealand Triumph TR Register from 1978 to around 1985/86.. they had a good spare parts import service, would either import for you as happened with front Guards for my TR, or help with the Import Licence process to do it yourself.

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There is a Brit & Euro car Day at Lloyd Elsmore Park, Pakuranga Sunday 4th March 10am - 4pm. it might well be there!

http://www.briteurocarshow.nz/

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Then and now (well, almost now...). Black and white's taken by dad of course.

ERA R1A - Silverstone 1948


ERA R1a - Monaco 2012


ERA R2A - Donington 1939


ERA R3A - Goodwood 2000


ERA R4A - Donington 1938


ERA R4a - Goodwood 2009

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....continuing a theme.
One of the two most famous ERAs of all - R4D at Donington. Raymond Mays at the helm.


R4D


The other famous car - R5B driven here by Tony Rolt in 1938


R5B at Monaco 2012 - Remus. One of the most successful race cars of all time, especially in the hands of the late Hon Pat Lindsay. I suspect that either some of the other front running ERA's have been further developed - or Remus has been pegged back a wee bit.


R6B - Donington 1939


R6B - Monaco 2012

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Ray, there has been quite a bit of discussion over here on the "modified" performance of , in particular, the ERAs. The tyre size has been mentioned, titanium con rods and a whole lot more. Of course totally new blocks etc. Personally I would like to see the performance "as it was" and I can comprehend the desire to increase the longevity of expensive components. Almost harks back to another thread on TRS
Bigger, stickier tyres Hmmmm.

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A desire to win Rhys. A desire to win... I have always stuck with the mechanically standard spec of my own car other than for brakes (safety reasons) and 1" bigger wheels - necessary to clear the brakes. On another thread here, there is mention of an 820bhp Falcon. I wonder what they produced in period?

I had one racer (who shall be nameless) wanting a class for standard cars, claiming his car was standard. The engine builder said that it may well look standard, but that was as far as it went.

Does the average spectator care? I just want to see cars on the track. The more merrier and the greater the variety the better. It's a bit like Donald Trump (and many others I suspect), cheating at golf. The only person you are kidding as to your talent is yourself.

Retaining original parts for longevity and originality is fair enough, but the replacements shouldn't give a performance increase and maybe revs need to be limited to original?

Given the age of the ERA's particularly, I'm stoked that I can still see cars that my dad enjoyed, 80+ years ago - yes, 80 years ago. I can't see my great grand children lusting after TRS cars (Toyota, not this thread!).

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ERA R7B - Donington - of course


R7B at the Richard Seaman Oulton Park races, 1975


R7B back in its original colours - Goodwood 2016


R8B - Donington - Earl Howe


R8B - Cuth Harrison - note the 'streamlined' nose - Silverstone 1948. Later rebodied back to original by Bruce Spollon and painted deep blue.

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ERA R9B - Silverstone 1948 - Ansell


ERA R9B - Goodwood 2016


ERA R10B - Donington 1939


ERA R10B - Monaco 2012


ERA R11B - Donington 1939. One of my favourite photographs of Dad's.


R11B - Goodwood 2009