Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

[Steve Holmes]

Can anyone please identify this? Taken at a Silverstone midweek session in early 1977 and on the same day as the de Cadanet Lola and the F1 Brabham posted earlier. Howard may know!
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The very last F1 BRM though sadly, it never raced in a GP. Built as a Jordan-BRM, the P230.
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The Arnott, seen here at Whenuapai. I think, 1990.
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Whenuapai 1995
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It wasn't allowed to happen under Bernie's reign, but de Beaufort's Porsche was totally outclassed in F1, yet added colour and variety. My support for larger grids is well known and I'm sure that despite the 107% rule (or is it 105%?), I believe F1 needs larger grids. Part of the reason for the decline in spectator support over the last couple of decades has been the smaller grids. It may not be apparent on TV, but it certainly is if you have paid to attend.
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I'm now dismantling the glass slides, to clean the glasses before scanning and also trying to identify which sets were taken on the same day! I know the above BRM pic was from an early visit, maybe even as early as the 1970's, (it opened 1973) as the BRM's were later grouped alongside the Vanwall collection.

Some Kodak slide film had a code number at the top which makes that part easier, but others had no markings at all, which may mean it was stock film from Dad!

Makes a slow job even slower... Sooner or later, I'm going to have to just give in and put an approximate date, but I may come across a slide with the same markings that will fix a date. I live in hope.

The Jordan BRM is a pretty car. Does it still exist?

[Steve Holmes]

June 1976 Mike Wilds driving a Shadow DN3 in the 'F5000' race at Mallory Park. It was open to large engined cars but up to 5000cc.
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Mike Wilds is still racing to this day. He has been a long-time historic racer. This is a really neat shot.

[ERC]

The only confirmed date here is the first one!

Remus. Donington April 15th 1979


Now I know what this is, but does anyone else?
*Well, I thought I knew until I googled it and found no matching images!


Undated Donington


4WD 1964 BRM




Ellerslie, date unknown - along with many other Ellerslie pics. The weather may be a bit of a clue when compared to other pics.

[Oldfart]

Well Ray, I can't get beyond either Formula 4 or one of the new breed 500s on that.

[ERC]

It appeared at Curborough just once, as a demo, but was definitely some sort of junior class. I had it noted as a Barnard initially, but the Barnard juniors were quite dumpy, whereas this looked extremely smart and sleek. I have no idea of the power unit but as it had race numbers, plus other decals, I assume it was part of a junior race class of some sort that was already running.

I did try several internet searches but got nowhere. It must have been before 1983, but there is nothing in that pic to tie it into anything else. As luck would have it, or not, I can't even tie the slide number to any specific film as yet either.

[frans]

Ray, I think it is a Formula M.

It took off in South Africa many years ago, early 70s and it is still raced there. Not sure if it spread to other countries as well but you can Google it and see the later models.

Francois.

[Paul Wilkinson]

Lystonian 73c?

[ERC]

Brilliant! Thanks for that Paul. I came across this when googling and dismissed it as it looked more like a full size car!

"Reminiscent of the F1 cars of the early '70s, the two-thirds scale Lystonia junior single-seaters were a development of the Jomoro marque, and both makes were the work of Jim Morgan and other former employees of Alan Mann Racing. Of unique design, the Lystonia featured a steel monocoque tub and fibreglass bodywork. The suspension was independent by rose-jointed wishbones all round. Powerplants were to choice, and ranged from mild 6hp Briggs & Stratton engines to full-house 250cc Bultaco units. A total of 14 Lystonias are thought to have been completed before funds ran dry. The example offered is chassis No.006, which is powered by a 125cc Yahama engine. This stunning-looking mini-racer was extensively restored by the vendor (a very successful speed hillclimber) for his daughter, and features Bright Orange bodywork teamed with a Black seat."

http://www.handh.co.uk/buy/1973-lyst...e-seater/11853

Expected to fetch between 5,000 - 6,000GBP... H & H Classics The mirrors seem to have disappeared!


Another gap in the slide collection successfully sealed, thanks to TRS.

[ERC]

Silverstone sprint series, early 1970's. These used to be run by 5 different clubs on five consecutive weekends around November. They consisted of 2 laps of the old club circuit - once the fog had lifted... No details of date or driver as yet.


At the Donington reopening in May 1977, there was a legal challenge from the local ramblers claiming they had access to Starkey's bridge or similar and across the track, which meant that there could not be any racing, however, the NSCC managed to get a legal judgement at the 11th hour to say that it could be run as a 'Trial', meaning that no single-seaters could run. The Frazer Nash's managed to get around this somehow and did run.

The damage was done and what should have been a huge meeting with a load of spectators, fizzled through a lack of spectators who had been put off due to the advance publicity. The sponsors, Else of Codnor, Lotus agents took a huge hit.




Den's Maestro Turbo...


More early shots from the Donington Collection.


Note the Cosworth 4WD behind the Ferguson - which has now been returned to the Rolt family. I wonder if the Donington collection will ever be boosted by more loan cars and back to its former glory, as it is a pale shadow of what it once was. Many unique cars were sold off and loan cars removed when the track nearly fell over as Kevin Wheatcroft struggled to get the track back to its former glory.

It was those unique older cars that made the museum so special, as two halls of McLarens and Williams never really appealed to me. I'm not sure how many of those have gone back to Williams and McLaren either, as both have their own historic collections.

If anyone has been within the last 18 months, for the first time, I'd be very interested to hear their impressions.

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
That is a neat museum collection with the 1969 Cosworth 4WD F1 car in the corner, the 1961 Ferguson P99 4wd plus the Cooper Bristol like Mike Hawthorn raced.
Where was that display ?
Thanks for all your sharing, you spoil us.
Ken H

[seaqnmac27]

Thanks Rhys.

May 1970... I think that is one of the earliest pics I have of a driver wearing a full face helmet. Not the sharpest or best of pics unfortunately. Ulf Norinder
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Another not so good pic. Part of the problem with having to set the distance before shooting - and it was probably accelerating hard! September 1970
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Brands Hatch April 1971, Howden Ganley is still in an open face but the driver behind is wearing a full face.
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Is the Lotus Dave Walker?

[ERC]

Donington Museum Ken.

Yes Sean, Dave Walker driving. Bev Bond drove the sister car - Lotus 59's 997cc #35

[ERC]

Another mix of mainly undated:

National Motor Museum at Beaulieu, 1987






Had a request from the UK for more Mini pics, but sorry Tina, this is a NZ one, so I'll try and dig out some UK ones. Pretty in pink...


Mike Peterson's Rover Vitesse, Taupo 2004, one of the last non-digital days.

[ERC]

A mix of dated and still to be dated, from the slides pile.

Carlos Pace Mallory Park September 29th 1970

Jody Scheckter retiring from the British GP at Silverstone 1977

After a lot of diary searching, film ID matching and eventually, I could pin this Donington Museum visit down to 22nd July 1988. Having done that, I was able to date and therefore log and file a small pile


But this visit was probably much earlier, well before the dedicated Vanwall display. Reading Tony Brook's Excellent book, 'Poetry in Motion', it seems that Tony Vandervell stuck with the front engine Vanwalls instead of making a determined effort with this, the rear engine car. Shame.


Frank Sytner in an as yet undated Mallory Park meeting. I'll get there eventually... A google search showed this to be a Dulon and another link with the music industry - Uriah Heep's keyboard player. Probably 1976.

[John McKechnie]

Very eavy, very umble ,ain it...great keyboard player. It is neat to see these artists racing-such as our man Nick from Pink Floyd doing Le Mans.

[ERC]

I was never into heavy metal, so apart from knowing the name 'Uriah Heep', it would never have registered with me! Chris Barber, yes. Mark Knopfler yes - and several more, but my musical tastes never covered Pink Floyd either. Sorry John - but I do have the two Mark Hales/Nick Mason books.

[ERC]

Another mixed bag from previously unlogged slides - except for the last one, which is digital.

The late Gunnar Nilssen with Tom Wheatcroft at the Donington reopening May 1977.


Formula Junior Lola, July 1988


The remains of the late David Purley's Lec after slamming into the Silverstone scenery. From memory, his survival from this crash made it into the Guinness Book of Records, due to the calculated G-forces he experienced. He later lost his life in an aircraft accident.


Pukekohe December 1989


Mark Babb's ex UK Capri - with Mark... January 2006.

[Mark Fiddyment]

From Wikipedia:
David Charles Purley, GM (26 January 1945 – 2 July 1985) was a British racing driver born in Bognor Regis, West Sussex, who participated in 11 Formula One World Championship Grands Prix, debuting at Monaco in 1973.

Purley is best known for his actions at the 1973 Dutch Grand Prix,[1] where he abandoned his own race and attempted to save the life of fellow driver Roger Williamson, whose car was upside down and on fire following a serious accident. Purley was awarded the George Medal for his courage in trying to save Williamson, who suffocated in the blaze.

During pre-qualifying for the 1977 British Grand Prix Purley sustained multiple bone fractures after his car's throttle stuck open and he crashed into a wall. His deceleration from 173 km/h (108 mph) to 0 in a distance of 66 cm (26 in) is one of the highest G-loads survived in a crash. He scored no championship points during his Formula One career. He died in a plane crash, having retired from motorsport and taken up aerobatics, in 1985.
He survived an estimated 179.8 g. This was the highest measured g-force ever survived by a human being (until in 2003, Kenny Bräck's crash violence recording system measured 214 g). Purley suffered multiple fractures to his legs, pelvis and ribs.

[ERC]

More from the pile of slides... Once upon a time, unless you managed to fill the frame, paying for a 'selective enlargement' print was prohibitively expensive, so many slides were not worth showing or sticking into glass mounts. Although I get a bit frustrated at times with my scanner's rather iffy focussing, I can 'selectively scan' or crop before scanning, which often gives an acceptable image from slides that had lived for 30 years in a reject pile.

Many of those posted recently are from that category, but whereas earlier mounted slides had been logged, these hadn't, hence the sketchy information. But, judging by all the PMs I get, many are appreciated for the diversity or just a snapshot into history, even if many are from the UK. Apologies once again if any have been posted previously when I just dipped into the pile and scanned them. I now I keep a record of posted images, but it wasn't always so.

In six week's time, we are away, yes, again, so nothing will be posted for a couple of months as there are no car visits planned.

Another from the British GP display in 1977. Probably one of the cars I'd most like to drive. Fat chance... Lola T70 GT


1980 - I think




Ardmore 1989 when we still had various Lotuses running regularly.

[ERC]

Terrapin at Shelsey Walsh 1967


John Watson in the Brabham Alfa at the British GP 1977. Even in those days, the wire fencing was a real pain, but I doubt I'd ever get anywhere near a hospitality suite these days! At that time, I had recently finished retraining and had only been back on a regular income for a month, so I only took a few pics. Times were very tough with a mortgage to pay...


Donington July 1980.


Ardmore 1989 - by a process of elimination and film matching!


Diane Sharp (then a local in Hamilton) with her Ford V6 engine Marcos, that started life as a V4. This car was eventually sold at auction, but the owner died not too long afterwards. I have been in touch with his widow, but not recently. A little reclusive...