From left Mike Coory, Pat Excel and wife and Hillsy Hills make there plan of attack on the V8 HMC cars!!
From left Mike Coory, Pat Excel and wife and Hillsy Hills make there plan of attack on the V8 HMC cars!!
I think this was my favorite car of the whole event.Originally Posted by Kiwiboss
Sounds good ...... & great info .... tell me pls how does this mk 1 BDG go in lap times compared to the front running V8 ,s
Thanks guys ..... Grant
They were quick in the day so they'll be quick now and as always Grant, depends on whos driving it
I assume Grant is referring to the Don Halliday Escort owned by John Dennehy as pictured on the previous page? This car wasn't at Pukekohe on the weekend.
Thank you Gerald & Dale ....... good point ...from both ..... no disrespect to any drivers ... at all ...but would be good to get a back to back ......say for eg Dale driving the Mustang then driving the escort . [comparison] ... yep they were pretty close mind you Pauls was FVC,,,,if you can get the Escorts in between the front running V8,s that would be a BIG BONUS for the class .... & woooow would it take off
Steve, I am trying to get a handle on a BDG time difference to the front running V8,s .... I have not collected enough info to find the answer , that mk 1 here above its BDG ???? [not sure] but reads that way
Grant, the V8's were always faster back in the day under perfect conditions, its just they often broke allowing the small cars to take advantage and been NZ with our flip flop weather conditions add a little of that wet stuff and the small cars were GONE. I actually had a race like that at one for the Festivals with Angus Fogg in the Amco mini and the crowd luv'd it so like any racing its really "Race by Race" come what may
Well what a great day of racing and friendship. The weather did not stop the enjoyment and my thanks goes out to all the drivers of HMC/HSC for their respect of the conditions and no damage and only huge smiles. Take a bow guy's.
We had a great field of all sorts. John Ure in his beautiful Series I XJ12 SWB....one of 700 odd made, Pat Excell out in his 1500 GT Anglia for the first time at Pukekohe...he has still got that grin from ear to ear. Mike Coory in the thundering Datsun 240K, Hillsy in the rapid Mk 11 Escort trying hard to keep the V8s honest followed by John Sampson in his beautifully prepared Capri RS2600. Bob Hyslop wanted a bit more wet to show off his skills in the slippery stuff in the historic RX2. Ken and Peter Northin were hard at it in their immaculate Mk1 and Mk11 Escorts. Darron Curphey was doing double duty in the flying Fiat 131R and enjoyed being out amongst the big boys.
Thanks guys for your support and commitment.
Cheers
Bruce
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Historic Saloon Cars look to be heading to Manfield in 2016, with plans to run alongside Historic Muscle Cars at the 2016 MG Classic. Lots of time to prepare, drum up interest, and work on putting on a great show for the punters.
From my laps, over the last few meetings at Puke & Hampton Downs, the top HMC cars are doing 1:15's and the U3L HSC are doing 1:19 / 1:20's You can throw a blanket over me, Jonh Dennehy, Hillsy and John Sampson, depends on the day who is quicker, but we are all usually within a second of each other. A couple of the HMC cars are in the 1:13's at HD. So I'm guessing that's similar to back in the day when I watched these races as a 5 -6 yr old at Puke on the long back straight. May have been a bigger difference then due to the HMC cars running off down the long straight. Wet conditions it's almost a level playing field, probably a bit in favour of the HSC cars.
Kerry C.
Great post Kerry, you pretty much got it summed up!! Sure the faster HMC cars are up front but the same can be done with a MK1 Escort if one wanted to spend the time and $$$, I always thought "Cubic Capacity" won out but as John McKechnie has posted "Cubic Money" beats out any day, guess I've been doing it all wrong, LOL.
Anyway, the attached pic shows what both HMC and HSC are all about, recreating our fabulous Saloon car history, and our Hoosier bias tyre gives the same slipage angle as Dennis and Paul have going on here. (Courtesy of Facebook, and whom ever owns this pic)
PS: I always luv looking at he safety fencing back then, and the cars weren't slugs either!!
Dale M
Last edited by Kiwiboss; 10-08-2015 at 06:10 AM.
Johnny Riley found that using the rear end of a Camaro was the way to gate crash the spectators.
Entries are now open for the Historic Tin Top class TACCOC Nov 1st and the chance to see John Dennehy and Glenn Ellingham in their similar cars with the same angles.
Last edited by John McKechnie; 10-08-2015 at 10:06 AM.
I am coming up to the TACCOC Summer Meeting to support John and Dave.
looking forward to catching up with a few more of the HMC/HSC guys.
Any of you that want to catch up with me send me a PM or email bruced105@gmail.com.
I have a couple meetings planned but will make time for others.
Bill Ritchie and I will also be at this years MG Classic at Manfeild on the 14/15th November to support any of the HMC/HSC guys as well.
I have today just viewed Julian Hardy's beautiful little Datsun 1200SSS who is joining us and looking forward to being at Manfeild in 2016.
Julian's car has a COD as well.
Cheers
Bruce
Look forward to seeing you again Bruce.
Just to remind everyone again about this-
Sunday November 1 TACCOC has given Historic Sports Sedans a grid- 3 races.
We have invited Historic Muscle cars to come along and run with us to enjoy the day
That is why I am unofficially calling this a Historic Tin Top class.
Great for newcomers ,those that didnt make the IceBreaker and some , like myself, who didnt make it through to the end of the day.
Get some skids in, have fun, and make sure the car is right for next Jan.
Contact TACCOC to make sure you are entered.
Last edited by John McKechnie; 10-23-2015 at 02:21 AM.
Latest addition to Historic Saloon Cars is Julian Hardey's 1974 Datsun 1200SSS. Julian has owned the car since 1998. Its built to T&C rules, and has COD.
It runs an A12 motor to 1,380cc, twin 45 Dellortos, 13" wheels etc. A neat little car. These were hugely popular race cars in period. Rarely seen these days.
Great to have Rayden Smith confirm today he plans to enter the 2016 Gulf Festival with Historic Saloon Cars.
This is another hugely important piece of New Zealand motorsport history, being the Willment Racing Escort twin-cam purchased by Jim Carney out of the UK in 1969 for the young Jim Richards to race. JR was a sensation in this car, which really helped put him on the map, and greatly increased his future prospects. He won the 4.2 NZ Saloon Car Championship at least once with this car, battling most years with Don Halliday in the Escort owned now by John Dennehy (as featured earlier in this thread). An awesome piece of kit.
Great to have Julian on board.Latest addition to Historic Saloon Cars is Julian Hardey's 1974 Datsun 1200SSS. Julian has owned the car since 1998. Its built to T&C rules, and has COD.
It runs an A12 motor to 1,380cc, twin 45 Dellortos, 13" wheels etc. A neat little car. These were hugely popular race cars in period. Rarely seen these days.
The 1200 beside it was his Dads and he owns it. Nice to owns ones heritage.
Welcome Julian.....
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This is a privilege to have Rayden on board with his historic Escort.Great to have Rayden Smith confirm today he plans to enter the 2016 Gulf Festival with Historic Saloon Cars.
This is another hugely important piece of New Zealand motorsport history, being the Willment Racing Escort twin-cam purchased by Jim Carney out of the UK in 1969 for the young Jim Richards to race. JR was a sensation in this car, which really helped put him on the map, and greatly increased his future prospects. He won the 4.2 NZ Saloon Car Championship at least once with this car, battling most years with Don Halliday in the Escort owned now by John Dennehy (as featured earlier in this thread). An awesome piece of kit.
I, in a distant way have a connection to this car. Jim Carney was my fathers boss when he worked at NZ Refinery at Marsden Point.
He was in my Dads words a very nice man.
Welcome Raydon and your beautiful historic Escort
It has been a few weeks since I last posted on the HSC Thread.
Last week I attended the TACCOC Summer Meeting. Beautiful weather and a really nice long weekend.
Busy from arriving with a meeting with Dave Graham, our COD Auditor, and Keith Hardgrave our Technical Auditor. It was great to put a face to the name and as Dave said " who's in the Zoo"...Just to make sure we are on the same page.
Good to catch up with Dale and John and what a sight of seeing the HSS guy's out there with the HMC guy's on a rolling start.
Special thanks to John Dennahy for allowing us to carry out a COD Audit on his beautiful historic Halliday Escort.
Enjoyed catching up with Dale in Tauranga on the way home on Monday and looking at his new premises.
Congratulations to Grant Sprague on the purchasing of a very nice Mk1 Ford Escort RS2000 who is joining us.
Looking forward to seeing you at the Festival Grant....nice car but Dale will always be quicker....cubes
Grant's Esky has a COD so that makes me smile...
The Festival is only around the corner so guy's lets get the cars ready as I did today and get those COD's in to me.
Cheers
Bruce
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