NEW CLASS / SERIES; Historic Sports Sedans. formation meeting.20/04/13 ACC

[Grant Sprague]

You will figure it out. The price i was told for the mustang and trailer was more than you paid. I did pay $11,000 for the pacific however. You are right, that was a lot back then. I do have a 69 Fastback (sportsroof) in my garage, and have had it for years. Since you have the one I really wanted, it is better than nothing!
Actually there is a really neat story to the one I have. Short version is it has a compliance plate by Ford Australia, and another build tag with EX AUSTRALIA stamped on it.
The story goes, and I have checked this story with the original owner and mustang club officials as follows. The original owner travelled to the States to buy a 69 sportsroof. He went to the Ford factory and was shown around, however told that they had switched to the 1970 production line. The owner said he did NOT want a 70 but one with the 4 headlamps (1969). They said sorry..........While he was in the factory he saw a 69 shell in the corner of some room. He said what is that car, and was told it had been taken off the assembly line as it has a defect in the build. He said put it back on the line and I will pay $1,000 over list for it. They did, and he did.
It was put back on the line and came off the line with some 1970 parts on it, which it still has to this day. This story has remained consistent in mustang club circles since the car arrived in Australia. The defect is in the welding of the roof left hand side gutter rail. It is funny when you over hear mustang gurus say that so in so parts should not be on this car. If only they knew the story.
So, I have possibility the only 69 Mustang in the world that left the factory amongst the 1970 cars! That makes it extremely valuable George, however you cannot have it as I have bequeathed it to my daughter Krystal. Pitty, as if you gave me $xxxx plus the Sidchrome car I may have considered it. - Ha Ha!

heheh Steve that is an interesting read , I love the 70,s shape, I see you are into deals etc , might offer you one of my massy fergie tractors for it [love a bit of humour lol ]... I am half way through fixing a leak on the diesel pump..... I will throw in the mower that hangs off the back as I have known you a while & trust the mustang had a good weld job , but will need to see the repair cert as it will be turned into an other sid chrome replica.... [not sure but is is same body shape ] ?? Trust you & family good .. keep up the fun ........keep laughing ............Grant

[Steve Emson]

This is a picture of the car, complete with the 1970 body molding and bonnet stripe. Must be one of the best looking body shapes ever made, surely. I bought this one in about 1995. It was at a racing car show that my HQ Holden was being displayed at. I remember walking around it, got my mobile out, called my wife Yvonne, and said what do you reckon. She said, "Buy it". How is that for a supportive wife?
My passion inspired by the Moffat/Richards race cars.


It isn't the famous Sidchrome Mustang that I should have bought back in 1976/77. but it is still a great looking unrestored 69, don't you think?

[Grant Sprague]

Yes , beautiful car for sure no doubt about it , love that shape............. not sure what engine size... 302 ...351 ?.....how many K,s [miles]...... Looks very original............... Steve last year I had a 1967 fast back had a shaker in the bonnet big wheels , mean looking thing lol I bought off a chap from the Mount ,289 ci I thought , in my spare time I will restore it ....... [WHAT SPARE TIME] she was a bit rough around the edges & thought shit what have I done ... any way the same guy phoned me up 2 yrs later & wanted it back ...... I had a few trinkets lying around you would have liked but flicked them all over a period of 10 yrs have no regrets at all .. one left...... . Steve your wife sounds like mine you are blessed because I feel I am , happy wife happy life...... If you get to lake side , you will see Dale,s mustang there , think its the same shape ,make your self known , Dale is from Tauranga , great Guy .

[Rod Grimwood]

Must have the same taste buds Steve, only difference is those little girls are now 25 and 23 and there was too many toys in shed way back then so mummy won. Give a nut to have it now. (should have then, but reckon if it had stayed I may have lost one or both for sure).
Bonus is the house looks the same and other couple of toys are still in shed.

[Ellis]

They are admired world wide...even in a shed close by in Tassie

[John McKechnie]

Rod- thats a beautiful dog you have in the photo.

[George Sheweiry]

Just did a little photo presentation to put on here, only took me a day by the time I found all the photos and made them into a gallery type viewing then tried and tried and tried to load them on here but this moth-- f-----r wont let me load it so gotta go now because wife wont be happy with axe through screen number 4!!! adios

[Grant Sprague]

yep George, I could not crop mine down , got a few of first competitions etc , they will get posted this year lol.... Hey Rod, I remember well two old post war GP cars my Dad use to own & Race , Alfa & Mazza ...... Now worth Millions of pounds..... some one once said to him Quote........ I bet you wished you still owned them..... His reply was with a grin "mate ' if you keep looking back you end up with a sore neck" that was Ernie................ any way life moves on , don't get to stuck on things.......... your Kids don't have a price tag they [cars] do ??? [Mind you they sure are nice to look at , a piece of art is how I see beautiful cars , just neat to view with out looking after them] George so looking forwards to seeing your collection .. what happened to Cedies Muzzies they a show pieces & very collectables as well , Moffett called into see them a couple year back in Matatmata.

[Rod Grimwood]

Rod- thats a beautiful dog you have in the photo.

Yep he was a beaut, that was about 18 years ago John, his name was Grizz, kids named him, pity was he got run over in a freak accident. No one hung around our area when he was there.

[Rod Grimwood]

Guys send me a email grimmie64@xtra.co.nz and i will send you the site to do your cropping/resizing and talk you through first couple and then show you how to post.

Grant Ceddie still has them, and Moffat reckoned that Cedric had more of his old gear than he had. He couldn't believe the Weslake gear and remembers selling to Cedric.

Cheers

[Grant Sprague]

Rod, Will do ....are you going to be at the V 8 super tourers 31st aug ...1 st sept Taupo ??Send you E mail soon & thanks . ps Re Ced yep he showed me over his 4 cars plus, many times ..... just needed to stand clear of the infamous fridge club bar..... A die hard Ford man , he loved Ernie to bits.....knocked him back a bit when FE .. departed

[Rod Grimwood]

Yep Grant, we all enjoyed the company of Ernie, and it knocked a lot of us, good days those.
Ernie and his little dog, what a couple of rascals.
Got caught a couple of times at that bar.

[Steve Holmes]

On the subject of old racing 69/70 Mustang's here are a couple of pics you guys might enjoy from an upcoming photo collection I'll be posting here, all taken by Allan Cameron:

[fullnoise68]

Steve, is that John Riley in the ex Dennis Marwood Camaro beside Jim Richards? If so this would have been just before his `engineering guru' from Papatoetoe did to the suspension and handling of that car, as to what Adam did to Eve!

[Steve Holmes]

Yep, thats exactly right Steve, its Riley in the ex/Joe Chamberlain/Dennis Marwood Camaro that had the subframe mods done to it. I'm not sure if this was before or after the 'upgrades', this was from late 1973.

Also pictured in the top shot which has Allan Moffat leading, is Pete Geoghegan in the Super Falcon, with Frank Gardner giving chase in the SCA Freight Camaro over from the UK. Gardner took this car to Australia after it'd done Bay Park and Pukekohe, raced it, then sold it.

In the second shot, behind Graham Baker in the PDL Mustang with its pink colours and high detail lace paint, is Red Dawson in the Kensington Carpets Camaro, Aussie Jim McKeown in the Porsche, then Riley and Jim Richards. Note also in the background the 'Lina-Mint' HQ Monaro of Neville Crichton. This was a Castrol GTX production racer, bought as the replacement for the similar Monaro Jandals Sheehan did his Dukes Of Hazard in. This car later was sold to Don Scott in Palmerston North, and is now in Western Australia, after its current owner bought it in rough condition on Trademe. He is a member on this forum.

[fullnoise68]

I`m sure there`s another photo on one of the other threads after the Riley Camaro was `revolutionised' where it was white with blue stripes and still No 50. Anyway.......

[Steve Holmes]

Yes thats right Steve, it started the 1974 season in the colour scheme pictured above, and after several off-track and car-to-car adventures, was painted orange with a yellow stripe, then white with a blue stripe.

[John McKechnie]

Steve- on post 193, you show Moffatt and co. What is the date of this meeting does anyone know?
On November 14 1971, the program shows Moffatt number 9 [Coke colours in your 193 he is 4] and Geoghegan [white ]were running at the Dunlop International, no Gardner entered.
How many times did Moffatt come here and the dates ,in this Mustang , any takers?

[Rod Grimwood]

2 or 3 John he ran in silver Brut colours last time at Bay Park and Puke. Geoghegan is in Grace bros colours in photo

[Steve Holmes]

Steve- on post 193, you show Moffatt and co. What is the date of this meeting does anyone know?
On November 14 1971, the program shows Moffatt number 9 [Coke colours in your 193 he is 4] and Geoghegan [white ]were running at the Dunlop International, no Gardner entered.
How many times did Moffatt come here and the dates ,in this Mustang , any takers?

John, the date for that event pictured above of Moffat and co would be December 31, 1972. It was the Bay Park Xmas meeting.

Someone may correct me on this, but I believe Moffat first raced the Mustang in NZ at that November 1971 event at Puke you referred to. Unfortunately they had virtually no competition as several of the Kiwi's had actually gone to race in Australia! Geoghegan was racing his '67 Mustang GTA at this event. I believe this was the last time Geoghegan ever raced that car. Moffat's Mustang stayed in NZ, and according to magazine reports, our very own Wally Wilmott prepared it so Moffat could run it at the Bay Park Xmas meeting. After Bay Park he ran it at the NZIGP at Pukekohe.

He returned to NZ the following season to run at the 1972 Bay Park Xmas meeting, as pictured above, plus the NZIGP at Pukekohe in early 1973.

For the NZ 1973/74 season, he returned again, this time with the car painted silver and green with Brut 33 sponsorship, and ran at the Bay Park Xmas meeting, and the Lady Wigram Trophy event at Wigram in January 1974.

Then in the 1974/75 season, he returned once again with the Mustang now in blue/white/red Union Travel colours, and ran at the Bay Park Xmas meeting and the Lady Wigram event. The Wigram event was the last time he ever raced the Mustang. This was January 1975.

I think I got that about right?