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    Of course, having said that, I also have no idea whats involved in swapping bodies on a Lotus 7. it could well be too big of a job.

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    Its a curious design addition is that wing! I guess there was supposed to be some sort of tie in with the F1 cars? Do you know why it was created? I like that its been done, its different, and, like you say, is quite fitting of the time. Today they'd just add a wing mounted on a couple of alloy struts, but this is pure '70s excess, so its quite cool in its own way.

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    Hopefully all shall be revealed soon on your car Paul.

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    Hey Paul, I came across this thread by accident, I am Rex Nalders son, The old man had this car when I was a teenager I am now late 40s. The car was purchased early 80s from a prison officer in Turangi, The old man did some research, and found out that the car was built as a factory show car by Steele bros, was approx 2in wider than stock and was plain black, only one of its kind. Car also handled like it was on rails, as he had suspension strapped down (literally with wide leather straps) he had all the rear spare wheel mount filled, no holes - was raced on wide 13in hotwire mags. Engine was a stock 1600 twin cam (mild work). He took it to wigram and was second fastest car (fastest, 930 turbo porsche) punched it off start, big oil surge, destroyed engine! Jamie aselby(rotorua) rebuilt engine, dry sump, 48 weber side draft carbs(not on exaust side),headers custom built through side of car 1pc, wild cam, built to run at 13:1 comp I think he was also running double valve springs combined with competition alpha romeo pistons .Car was later sold to some clown who was gonna "drag" it in Auckland - he would have owned car approx 3-5yrs and old man is a perfectionist,so car was mint, was also sold on a custom made single axle trailer in mint cond. He then purchased a 1970 Pontiac firebird 455 b/block. Repowered with a 454 LS7 nascar engine, spent a fortune on race specing car, I think he still holds “P” circuit lap record in Tauranga. That car went to Auckland too, and has since disappeared =cheers

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    PS, does it still have the soft top with it??

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    Hey Paul, yeah car was definitely road registered, dad has photos of it when he raced it at pukekohe hanging on his study wall, I will have to ask him. 1978 seems to ring a bell for year of manufacture?, from memory, the old fella always had trouble with traction with the car, as when he first got it racing it used to axle tramp horrifically leaving dotted lines down the track!! hence the strapping down, but I dont think he actually changed any of the factory running gear. I didnt have my drivers licence when he bought the car, so he must of purchased it 79-80? After the last radical engine build, the car became quite tempremental, and would constantly pop things, so dad got fed up with it, but when it went right was orsome. We got into competitive sailing, and car was left in garage until sold. If you can imagine putting a rubbish can on your head, getting someone to belt the hell out of it with a bat, that is about how loud that thing used to be when riding in it - the induction noise was like a commercial vacuum cleaner !! - cheers, Rob

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    yes it used to corner really well, he had it strapped down so tight, the inside wheels would lift off the ground like the v8s today, thats why he went to quite wide rubber to compensate ha ha, are those wheel spacers on the drums, I think the old man got those made for it !

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by nalracer View Post
    Hey Paul, I came across this thread by accident, I am Rex Nalders son, The old man had this car when I was a teenager I am now late 40s. The car was purchased early 80s from a prison officer in Turangi, The old man did some research, and found out that the car was built as a factory show car by Steele bros, was approx 2in wider than stock and was plain black, only one of its kind. Car also handled like it was on rails, as he had suspension strapped down (literally with wide leather straps) he had all the rear spare wheel mount filled, no holes - was raced on wide 13in hotwire mags. Engine was a stock 1600 twin cam (mild work). He took it to wigram and was second fastest car (fastest, 930 turbo porsche) punched it off start, big oil surge, destroyed engine! Jamie aselby(rotorua) rebuilt engine, dry sump, 48 weber side draft carbs(not on exaust side),headers custom built through side of car 1pc, wild cam, built to run at 13:1 comp I think he was also running double valve springs combined with competition alpha romeo pistons .Car was later sold to some clown who was gonna "drag" it in Auckland - he would have owned car approx 3-5yrs and old man is a perfectionist,so car was mint, was also sold on a custom made single axle trailer in mint cond. He then purchased a 1970 Pontiac firebird 455 b/block. Repowered with a 454 LS7 nascar engine, spent a fortune on race specing car, I think he still holds “P” circuit lap record in Tauranga. That car went to Auckland too, and has since disappeared =cheers
    Hey welcome to the site, great info you've posted here. Re your dads old Firebird, I think Shane Johnson owns this now.

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    Hey thanks for the welcome, I hope Mr Johnson appreciates that car, it was rebuilt from the ground up,and a LOT of cash went into it. 6-pots all around, imported nascar 454, I loved it !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Wilkinson View Post
    Thanks, your Dad has been an absolute star! He has had quite a lot of interesting info for me and has also helped me out with information about getting the car back on the road. Thanks for putting me in touch with him.
    No problem at all.

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    Is that a modified Marcos getting a biff from the S4?

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    Geetings all. I have been reading through this thread, fascinating. I thought that some may interested in this. Currently I am in the process of getting my book, currently called NZ Cars a Cottage industry, ready to publish. The book is about New Zealand Manufactured cars and have I done research on both the standard S4 and the Super 907. Below I have reproduced the chapter of the S4 that will be going in my book. I have also writen another chapter on the 907 and attached a picture of a relatively unknown "Lotus" Super 907 manufactured in New Zealand by Steel Bros yet still a genuine Lotus. Enjoy
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    Lotus 7 Series 4 1973 to 1978
    By Patrick Harlow

    Although many people know that New Zealand was at one time the only producer of Lotus cars outside of England, only a few know that it came about through the passion of an accountant by the name of David Dixon.
    David worked for Steel Bros in Christchurch as the company secretary from the 60s through to the 70s. Since the founding of Steel Bros in the early 1900s the company had produced transport equipment and tended to concentrate mainly on truck bodies and trailers as well as heavy transport based machinery. After building about 5,000 truck cabs and bodies the opportunity arose to build the Prince Gloria in early 1964. At this point Steel Motor Assemblies Ltd. was formed and became fully involved in serious car production, joining the huge number of car plants that had started up at that time. By 1967 they were building Toyota, Nissan and Mazda vehicles. They would go on to build tens of thousands of Toyota cars and trucks. By 1977 Steel Bros NZ Ltd. were only producing the Lotus 7 car. It is initially hard to understand how the little niche market car ever made it into production. I have included it’s story because despite being built by a major car producer, just over 100 cars were produced, mainly by hand in a similar manner to all the other cars in this book and through the enthusiasm of one individual.
    In the late 60s it was virtually impossible to buy a new car in New Zealand unless you had overseas funds. The number of Hiab cranes that Steels were given a licence to import could be increased by the amount of New Zealand made content included in the cars and by the amount of overseas funds they were able to earn in exports. David Dixon believed that it would be possible to build a car with a fibreglass body and a separate steel chassis locally. The car he wanted was the Lotus Elan, as having done the maths he was certain that Steel Bros could build the car with a high New Zealand content. The car could be sold more cheaply than the MGB in Australia which at that time was the only volume sports car readily available. David was sure that they could increase the New Zealand content to almost 50% of the car which was twice the amount other manufactures were achieving. If it reached the target of 50% then it could be sold duty free to the Australian market
    David contacted Colin Chapman, the CEO and founder of Lotus, who was positive about the idea and sent over his Pacific Sales manager Ron Richardson to discuss a deal in 1969. Not expecting such a quick response David quickly borrowed an Elan from an old school friend to evaluate how easy it would be to produce. The project was deemed to be feasible despite the complexity of the Elan. A deal was made and Steel started to consider how they were going to produce the car. Unfortunately due to liquidity problems in England, Lotus Cars had been forced to become a public company and because finances were tight it was deemed no longer possible for them to allocate resources to make Elan parts for New Zealand.
    That was the bad news, the good news was that Colin Chapman had never liked the Lotus 7 and was looking for an opportunity to stop producing it. They offered the Series 4 Lotus 7 to New Zealand and Rod Steel of Steel Bros made the courageous decision to take it on. David Dixon again negotiated with Ron Richardson and in 1972 two cars were imported from the UK for a feasibility study. One car became the company car for David Dixon and was his daily runner until he accidentally wrote it off 25,000 kilometres later. The other car was stripped down to its component parts so that production decisions could be made. In mid 1973 Lotus announced that their production of the Lotus 7 would cease and they would sell all their remaining parts at discount. Caterham in the UK took some of these parts and the rights to continue Lotus 7 production in the UK but they were not allowed to use the Lotus name. Steel Bros purchased sufficient components, jigs and moulds to build 50 cars in New Zealand. They also had the rights to use the Lotus name and became the only Lotus manufacturer based outside the UK. They ultimately bought 100 twin cam engines and Ford 2000E gearboxes along with a healthy supply of Ford Escort differentials and steering racks. Triumph provided Herald steering columns and suspension uprights whilst Lucas supplied the instruments. The engines and gearboxes were purchased in two batches of 50 with the first batch being surplus from Elan production and the second 50 engines from the Europa production facility. Caterham would build only 37 Series 4 cars before reverting to the less complex Series 3 cars which they still build to this day.
    In Christchurch production of the cars began in a sub-factory in Buchanans Road. The first few cars were built from component kits which gave Steel the opportunity to build a couple of chassis’ using the Lotus jigs, evaluate them and to make some improvements such as reinforcing the engine bay and making the front suspension towers from heavier gauge steel. The Christchurch boat makers CrestaCraft were subcontracted to produce the fibreglass components while all the steel fabrication work was done in house. The first cars were finished in December 1973 and received much acclaim from the local press. At $4,300 dollars each they were a similar price to the Holden HQ but with an acceleration time of 5.2 seconds from zero to 100 km/h (Holden HQ with 3.3ltr motor took 13.1 seconds 0 - 100km/h). Even with a 1600cc motor they were in a supercar league in both performance and handling.
    Locally produced content of the car was 75% which made the government quite happy. In fact two prime ministers went for rides in the car; Bill Rowling in 1974 and Robert Muldoon in 1976. During it’s production run several other improvements were made to the car such as a detachable fibreglass roof. Items that would have represented ultimate luxury on its British equivalent were included in the New Zealand version, for example: a fully trimmed interior, elasticated pockets to store oddments, floor carpet and even a lockable boot lid.
    In 1975 production was transferred to the main Steel Bros site at Treffers Road where the factory still exists today and where the company now trades under the name Steelbro. Fibreglass production shifted to Prebble Fibreglass and cars rolled out of the factory at a rate of two per month. The 70s oil crisis did not dent its popularity and it was not long before several of these cars were making their mark on race tracks around the country. It is believed that 98 cars were built at the Steel Bros plant before supply of the engines dried up. All were fully assembled and ready to drive. Of these 8 were sold in Australia. Steel Bros were faced with either stopping production entirely or using Toyota engines. David Dixon suggested using the new Lotus 2 ltr 16 valve motor. For David, continuing to use a Lotus motor ensured that they could keep putting the all important Lotus badge on the bonnet as this was the key to unlock overseas markets. The new engine would mean a major redesign of the car so work began on a version which would be produced as the Lotus Super 907.


    Bibliography
    Thanks to David Dixon, Allan Dick
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    Agree with everything you say Paul. However Lotus were happy to allow Steel Bros to market the Super 907 as a Lotus as long as it had a Lotus engine. When a 907 was sent to America for appraisal it was still called a Lotus and as far as Lotus UK were concerned it was Ok to call it a Lotus as long as it had a Lotus engine in it. This agreement below is a quote form the 907 chapter.

    "David Dixon and Rod Steel (Managing Director of Steel Bros) travelled to England and then to America to investigate the possibility of an export market there. In England they approached Mike Kimberley of Lotus Cars who agreed to look at the possibility of providing the engines. Consequently a Lotus Elite and a Lotus Esprit were imported into New Zealand along with two engines, transmissions and a selection of parts that would allow development of the Super 907 to proceed."

    You wouldn't happen to have an english version of the above would you? The car shown in your photos is the prototype mockup. The red car is the only mobile version of it at this stage although a second car, I am fairly sure, now resides in Wellington in pieces. One day he intends to assemble it. I live in hope.

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    Great reading Patrick - thanks for posting this.
    Out of purely self-interest (as I own the sole completed Bainbridge 907 car) do you have any information on both the Bainbridge transaction / saga and cars??
    I have pieced some things together from likes of old owners of it as wekll as via Paul (from the above thread) but the more info I can gather the better from a historical perspective.
    Cheers...Lindsay

  17. #117
    Please PLEASE can the old dramas not be dredged up again! (But this from Patrick seems to confirm some previous)

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfart View Post
    Please PLEASE can the old dramas not be dredged up again! (But this from Patrick seems to confirm some previous)
    Old dramas????
    You're not confusing interpretation of Lotus history (and NZ's part, or otherwise, in it) of the other posts versus the history of Steele Brothers and their place in NZ as an automotive manufacturer (as in Patricks post)are you ??
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  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfart View Post
    Please PLEASE can the old dramas not be dredged up again! (But this from Patrick seems to confirm some previous)
    N.B. The Fact is that it has been confirmed that Steele Bros. at all times acted lawfully, contrary to what was originally and wrongly alleged. I make no apologies for my obstinate stance, whereby I defended Steele Bros.

    Trevor.

  20. #120
    Looking at all the pics, seems like the wide 13" hotwire mags were the wheel of choice by Steelbro's for this limited run of cars

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