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    Can someone please identify cars 16 and 18?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    Can someone please identify cars 16 and 18?
    Allan, #18 is a Citroen powered special, built by Doug Haig have seen it elsewhere in books
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    #16 is C Read in the B. C. M. special. #18 is R Smith in the Citroen special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woody View Post
    #16 is C Read in the B. C. M. special. #18 is R Smith in the Citroen special.
    Woody you just beat with details of #18,- the Doug Haigh built Citroen Special and it was owned and raced by Ralph Smith, who has the Lycoming, the Citroen was made from a Light 15 with the Motor/ gearbox final drive turned back to front for the rear wheel drive, which is quite normal for racing cars these days. Interestingly an early photo in Graham Vercoe's book it has #18 on it - so a permanent number from the 1950's
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    Pity about Vercoe's "Historic Racing Cars" book-it was riddled with inaccuracies. They started before you even opened the book-the dust jacket shows (amongst other cars) a blue Lola T70 which is labelled a Lola T1!
    To make matters worse many knowledgeable people such as Max Fisher and David McKinney went to great lengths to correct the errors but, alas, they wasted their time and energy. When the second edition was published it was word for word the same as the first edition.
    As "Oldfart" says, the info it contains needs to be looked at very critically.

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    Dunedin '84 the single seaters my final photos. Capella Ferrari BCM and others

    The field
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    The Capella
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    Capella close up
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    The field racing
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    Ferrari and Stanton Cropduster
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    Ferrari BCM and GCS
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    Dunedin - finally - the last photo - full view and a couple of engines.

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    and as I like Riley's the Ransley Riley Engine

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    and that upside down engine again
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    That is it the whole 50 or so photo's
    and thanks for the information to identify the cars

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    Hi Roger re the G C S. As a 10-11 year old we went to Murewai beach racing about 1956-57. We walked up the beach to see the racing. The cars were all just sitting around and I touched the tyre on this car. I guess it was George Smith who told me not to do that as the sand would get into the engine. Sadly no racing took place as the tide or something was not right. Very disappointing but amazing to think perhaps Bruce McLaren and others could have been there. Chrs ...

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    Dunedin ; more photos to follow

    Quote Originally Posted by GD66 View Post
    Cover courtesy of Steve Nesbitt
    Attachment 31242
    Found another dozen photos including some of the straight sprints and a few of the cars in the pit area

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    Dunedin 84 the sprints

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    A view of the city - peaceful for the moment and a lonely Mini in the carpark.
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    from the Sprints on the Saturday - organised by the Otago Sports Car Club
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    Huge crowd and not much safety as was in the time and earlier, much like the 1960's 70's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Dowding View Post
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    Huge crowd and not much safety as was in the time and earlier, much like the 1960's 70's
    And as it could be/should be if we were not living in a nanny state, when people actually had enough sense to be self preserving.

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    Dunedin In the Pit area - some unusual cars and engines.

    Cooper Vincent
    the car known as "Jilly " and raced at one time by Dave "Jaguar " Silcock
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    the Vincent engine end.
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    A Sports Special ** which we now know is Furi 2, built by Jim Bennett with help from his brother Cliff [ bodywork ] and Ivan - engineering.
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    (Think this is ) the engine from the special - It is using the Roots type twin vane Commer TS3 Truck supercharger.
    Supercharged Jaguar
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    any comment appreciated, maybe from the programme Steve Nisbet !!
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    Dunedin - finally - the last photos - old specials and new car

    New-ish
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    Oldish the B C M Special
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    the engine
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    Older - and a Favourite. the Stanton Special
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    I think that will be all from the 1984 Dunedin races, unless you guys have some to add.
    Please do, and enjoy these.

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    Very good presentation Roger, many thanks.
    We competed much later when the races were revived and ran clockwise & used the motorway over to 'THE GLEN" then up to and over Cemetary Hill & back around the "OVAL" Pic attached , maybe someone can do a spread on those later years, that have now also, Sadly gone forever it seems.Name:  PC141760.JPG
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    Great shot of a later Street races, thanks " Rascal "

    Quote Originally Posted by Rascal View Post
    Very good presentation Roger, many thanks.
    We competed much later when the races were revived and ran clockwise & used the motorway over to 'THE GLEN" then up to and over Cemetary Hill & back around the "OVAL" Pic attached , maybe someone can do a spread on those later years, that have now also, Sadly gone forever it seems.Name:  PC141760.JPG
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    Hope there are more photos out there, feel free to add them here or on a new thread.

    Re : " Sadly gone forever it seems " wasn't it at Dunedin that there was a Spectator death ??, and MANZ [as it was then ] didn't support the organising club(s) and only intervened when the Clubs Officials were to be charged with the death

    thanks

    Roger

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    Roger, The accident was at the Queenstown meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woody View Post
    Roger, The accident was at the Queenstown meeting.
    Woody, thanks I was unsure, but do know that it had a big effect on organising street events.

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    Programme from the 1954 Dunedin Street Races, 30 years earlier - copy Bruce Dyer

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    Can post details from the programme.

    Otago Sports Car Club were behind the 1984 event too !!

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    Can someone please give me street names for the earlier circuits ASAP?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfart View Post
    Can someone please give me street names for the earlier circuits ASAP?
    Thanks
    Oldfart, will have a look at Scott Thomsons book and the programme above, will scan them to here, later today !!, cheers Roger
    Have a quick look at post #1, as Scott's book has a couple of the maps - a bit small though !!, will try to resize for you..

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