Any Timaru Historic Racing Pics?

[RogerH]

But sadly is nothing more than a representation of the aura/ style of generic cars of the period. To then "race" against period correct cars is a nonsense (in my humble opinion, but you should hear the views of my Historic Formula Ford friends!).

I tend to agree - it becomes a bit frustrating when you have gone to the effort of racing a period correct car with correct engine, drum brakes and correct cross ply racing tyres and you come up a recent built car that looks a bit the same but has a bigger engine, disc brakes and low profile radial tyres ............

[AMCO72]

I know that this post and the half dozen before it aren't 'pictures of Timaru' thread but what came out of that meeting.....the damage and discussion about period cars. Of course it is possible for these people to build 'correct' cars with period parts....some might be a bit hard to find but they are out there. The problem is that these guys are 'racers' and they are not interested in going slowish, so if the car LOOKS roughly how it should, then that is ok. The real enthusiasts like Howard and Roger, for instance, can spot these fakes a mile off and get pissed off when these 'hot-rods' sail past them, not only on the straights, but in the corners as well. Someone asked have these machines got a COD and if so how did they get them......'crunch', perhaps you can tell us. I think all it takes is a bit of determination like Dale did for the HRC group, get everyone in line, NO excuses, and then everyone gets the message, otherwise we are going to have a 'them and us' situation again....Nth Island/Sth Island.... which means that us North Islanders are going to be reluctant to go South and race, knowing we are going to be beaten by some 'special'. Now there's an idea....all these recreations could race together as NZ Specials.......we have always been good at special building ,and we are still doing it apparently. There is of course the temptation by the organisers to fill grids that are a bit light, with non compliant cars and you can understand this. Golly, the more you think about this, the more issues arise. The South Islanders have always had a bit of rebel in them, which has worked down there, but NZ is 2 small Islands and it would be nice if we could work together.

[Steve Holmes]

Interesting discussion guys, definitely food for thought. I wonder if crunch is reading this? Be interesting to hear his thoughts.

[Steve Holmes]

Hi
Has anyone been to the Timaru Historic Races this weekend?
Hoping someone has some pics of Bernie Hines in his Broadspeed Mini and Fred Sayers in the Don Holland lightweight.
Also any other Mini's would be of interest?

Thanks

Ian

Ian, you originally started this thread asking if anyone took photos of Fred Sayers Mini during the South Island historic events? Sorry I can't help, but I did find these gems in amongst the huge collection of photos sent to me by Bruce Wells. I'm pretty certain this is the same car Fred races now, the Don Holland machine which competed in Sports Racing Closed (pre-Sports Sedans). I told Fred I thought I had a couple of pics of the car, I'll send him here to see them.

[Rod Grimwood]

This is similar discussion to what was on other thread "replicas etc" maybe should go back to there and then Ian can have this one for photos etc. Very interesting though how these cars are popping up. And tend to agree with Howard and them, real with real and specials with specials.