Pre War Car is good. The first adv. is free, and they have a very big coverage.
http://www.prewarcar.com/
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Pre War Car is good. The first adv. is free, and they have a very big coverage.
http://www.prewarcar.com/
Thanks for that Greg.
The timeing bus, bit of Puke history there, was better than the first timeing post i feel.
The gentleman with the video camera and yellow driveing suit looks a little like a younger Jim Short.
Wow what an interesting field of cars in this 1967 race somewhere in Ohio.... Diggin the A/Sedan Nova
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Tom Leake's Aston was a regular at Mallory and I never tired of admiring it.
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One of the most famous of all UK Escorts. Dave Brodies 'Run Baby Run'.
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This was the first Dino 246 I ever saw - and still on Italian plates - it was raced that day! For years, I thought that maybe it belonged to Frank Sytner, but it was a replacement entry and it was either David Weir or Mike Ogier.
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That Dino is the same as the one John Samson parked very neatly in large drain 30 metres befor the spot Bruce parked his Cooper that spun on oil from??/ ?? car 1965? he just cliped the ambulance parked there.When John put his Dino in upto the door windows with a mitre to spare on both sides,to get it out several drivers striped to the last item and climbed into the waist deep water to hook the cable on,when Bruce went in the drain had not been drained, cleared of watercress ect.Had John gone in upside down who knows what the result would have been, not a nice thought
Whenuapai 1987 but this energetically driven Porsche was a late entry so I have no idea of the driver. No doubt someone on here will know.
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Alfa GTA was a great sight, with Richard Atkinson's Ford V6 Marcos (now owned by FF driver Phil Foulkes) in the background. Richard had two Marcos at the time, both painted bright yellow. You don't realise how low the Marcos is until you park it alongside another smallish car. It makes an MGB look like a double decker... Yes, this is a plywood chassis car too.
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Sunbeam Tiger. Either John Boyd or Steven Ward driving, one of several shared driver cars.
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Another couple of pics from the Sports Car club's garage day.
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I presume this is the car that was in the Donington Museum almost from day one - the Maserati based Tech-Mec. As the same car was out at the Monaco Historics 2012, is this yet another fascinating car that has been sold off?
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There is something "correct" about front engined racers that I can't really define. I think they have an individuality totally lacking in todays computer generated look alikes. One of two Scarabs now out racing. Once again, I am not sure if Donington still has their example.
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AMCO will be happy with this - Lotus Cortina trailing the Minis. Mind you, I suppose I should fess up and admit that it is practice...
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When the 1.5 litre F1 formula was announced for 1961 to 1965, many pundits saw it as the death of Formula 1. Probably because I was old enough to take a keen interest and read every report of every race, it remains in my memory as an era when the drivers had to drive so much harder, faster, smoother, to make up for the lack of power and it was when many of the great names came to the fore - not to mention a shift from Italian and German dominance to British dominance. BRM came of age so it was their only golden patch, before slowly sliding into oblivion again.
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Hi Gang.ERC picts of the B R M and the Aston fab Jamie A
1987, Gordon Burr was running a quick Porsche then and he drove the doors of it. He actually won Championship back then. Also Roger Anderson had a couple of drives in a Porsche I think.
ERC, the NZ owners of Mk1 Lotus Cortinas think they are too valuable to 'race'. Well our car is valuable too. If you had to replicate the Amco Mini or any of those period S cars, you are looking at $100,000+++. Yes, I kid you not, its eye-watering stuff.
There is one Mini Cooper S, with a history, that has been restored by Upper Classics in ChCh for a figure in excess of $135,000 !!!!!!!!!!!
The Mk1 Lotus was never a very robust vehicle in its original state, especially when pushed along hard, so maybe that is one of the reasons we dont see them on the race track, and that is a shame. Along with the Cooper S they formed a big part of Motoracing history.
Ray, those Sports Car Club Pics bring back some memories. All pre Vehicle Certification.The blue Car MK9894 was built by Glen the guy in the blue shirt standing next to it. It had a 350 chev and reversed Corvair box that didnt last long. I think Oldfart may have owned it briefly. The white Mirage Turbo in the picture was still under warranty but I couldnt tell the Mitsi agent that it only jumped out of gear on the Pukekohe Club circuit. The rare two door Allegro will be well known to you. Is it still around. The other Picture is of George Spratts Aurora. I think it was mid engined. George was an interesting but very clever chap who used to drive around in a Roller. I think he put a Mini Engine and Subframe into the rear of a BMW Isetta. Post Certification (1990) guys are still building cars but we dont see as many one offs as we did in the 80's. Graeme
Thanks Graeme. I mistakenly labelled the Aurora and had forgotten what it was.
That two door Allegro Equipe 1750 was sold to a young guy who headed for Warkworth. Not sure if the car still exists (it hasn't been on the road for several years), but if it does still exist, I'd be very keen to restore it. An under-rated car that only needed a stiffer front end to make it handle as well as the lighter and better balanced 1300.
I don't seem to have a race programme for this meeting so would welcome any comment or car/driver i/d to help me date the pics.
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When looking at the neg before scanning, I first thought this was the Freeth Starlet - same sponsorship livery.
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Shame this one is a bit out of focus, but what happened to that Renault?
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The days when photographers got up close and personal... Not so sure that I'd be perched there without anything to dive behind if things went to custard.
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Yep, Pearson ran a Imp with Renault engine in it, and then in this car. Roger, was it the Imp he turned on it's roof going down the front straight at Puke when he hit the crossing and it bounced and went sideways and onto roof in practice. Remember we were in pits standing with Rutherford and co. just getting into our cars when heard a funny bounce noise, then a skid and a grinding noise, and looked over pit wall to see it on its lid slidding down the track. Didn't hit anything either, he was pretty lucky.
Thanks for that. I have the Pearson Renault down as 3500cc on 31/01/1993 also carrying the same number - 81, so could this be 1993 after all?
Think the Renault went upside down at Taupo i think it was in practice. Wheels were still spinning when we came through esse's and it was in middle of track.
The Renault also featured in some action at Wellington street race I think.
As you say, The Imp was quick but tended to have it's own mind on bumps etc.
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The Jensen Healey was a Jensen squealy, being driven hard - until the left rear wheel parted company with the rest of the car.
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Did he catch it? Nope...
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Rasmussen senior and junior.
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Nice to see another little brother...
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Yes - the Aurora has a Rover V8 out back. George no longer has the Roller, but does have a Bentley T series - with a Nissan 6 cyl diesel in it! He also has an XJ6 S2 - with a Nissan 6 cyl diesel in it! The BMW Isetta does have a Mini engine in it - looks quite tidy, too.Quote:
The other Picture is of George Spratt's Aurora. I think it was mid engined. George was an interesting but very clever chap who used to drive around in a Roller. I think he put a Mini Engine and Subframe into the rear of a BMW Isetta. Post Certification (1990) guys are still building cars but we dont see as many one offs as we did in the 80's. Graeme
George is an Electrical engineer and works for Bill Buckley making machines that make silcon chips. (I shared a house with him for some years)
Just a comment or a plea. If you want to use any of these pics, (or from any other contributor for that matter), such as for your own Facebook pages, or any publication, whether for profit or not, it would be polite to ask for permission first - and also acknowledge the photographer if you do use them - please.
In recent times, one of mine has been used on a race programme cover (without permission) and at least one I have found as someone's Facebook profile.
It takes a lot of time and effort (just ask Steve!) to scan and edit so that pics are at least worth looking at, particularly from old negatives and slides. Cropping sensibly, colour balancing and correcting fading is not quick work, even when you are confident. At least 30% of the ones I have scanned have been deleted as not being of sufficiently high quality to show - and I don't really want to cover mine with a watermark/logo even though the uploaded quality is considerably reduced, but I can see why others do.
Yep, well said Ray. I think once photos are placed on the internet you really have no control over them anymore, they're there for everyone to be enjoyed. But I think its just a respectful thing to at least credit the owner if they're being shared elsewhere. Lately I've been putting The Roaring Seasons web name watermark at the bottom of each photo I post on here so photos can be traced back, and the owner recognised.
1986 Whenuapai - Oh how we miss those meetings...
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July 1967 - Shelsey Walsh Hillclimb
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Wridgeway Horton - a regular locally
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Note the registration number of this E type... 86 PJ
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E Type Egal - 7 litre power I seem to recall
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What would this Porsche be worth today?
Ah, Whenuapai.........the trouble with airfield circuits is because of the wide open spaces, drivers tended to explore the handling limits of their cars........to the limit!!!!!!
I remember at that meeting, Paul Leuch in his Aston Martin converting some carefully placed hay bales into an abstract haystack......with a little bit of damage to the Aston.
The Amco Mini looks a bit bare without its signwriting.
Would the sliding Jag in #270 be big Mike Westall?
Right colour.......bonnet louvers.....and looks like Mike behind the wheel. The car was usually shod with Minilites so don't know why it has these steel wheels on.
Graham Park I think it was, its mentioned in the Lost Cars thread, ran with tinted windows and I think from memory on that thread it was burnt out at Baypark?[/QUOTE]
Yep Parksy sold it to John Coulton.It did have tinted windows...the car caught fire at Baypark..Graham got out ok and damage was super ficial............because no one could see the fire through the windows MANZ passed a directive that all cars will tinted glass (mine included) were to have them replaced with clears.....This was a very well engineered car that had in board suspension and mid mounted P76 turbo charged V8 in it....talking to George Biscuit last week and Graham has purchased the car back and looks like restoring it back to how it was.......Thanks for great photos.....regards, Tony Rutherford.
The MKIV GT Replica built by Baker? in the NI has popped up on several websites in the UK/Europe for sale over the last ten years, holding its price quite well in regards to other replicas, been a couple of times where sellers have tried to pass it off as the real thing , but with all the internet detectives about these days those adverts vanish quickly.
Porsche 906, seem to get very big money, especially with race history. Several very good replicas available of them now.
Jac Mac. You have highlighted a very serious problem for those of us taking pics today, (not buying cars). That is "Have I snapped the real thing, or is it a replica?"
I categorise/file all my pics as best I can, so identifying a genuine GT40, Cobra, Lotus 11 used to be so easy. There weren't any replicas! I have large directories/folders for specials and another for replicas.
When we were in Broadbeach a couple of years ago, dining at a street restaurant, I noted in the distance a Lotus 11 shaped car heading towards us. I snapped it, but not being able to verify it I have no idea whether it was a genuine Lotus 11 or a Westfield or other replica. How to I categorise it? A folder for "unsure?"
Should I ever decide to produce a book, (you never know...) I'd have to add the disclaimer that it was produced based on the knowledge available at the time.
One replica I missed snapping was the lovely Lister Jag replica constructed locally that even had the personalised plates for the UK original! (Clive Pilkington's name rings a bell.)
I think the brown Jag was indeed Mike Westall and if he was cornering like that, he probably had to run a spare!
One of the hidden joys of flagging with a full crew, was that we'd take it in turns to stand down and I managed to get pics I wouldn't normally have been able to get from the public enclosure! How I wish I'd had today's camera back then...
Earlier UK photos were usually taken with dad's old standard Leica - no rangefinder, standard lens only and a mix of slides and negative film.
Its Jag time!
The original - for my money, one of the most beautiful cars ever built.
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The earlier pic was 1986, this Whenuapai pic is 1991 - with Minilites...
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No prizes for naming two... Probably January/February 1983 - Pukekohe short track. This was the first time I had seen this super star in action and I have to say that the crowd were most enthusiastic! I remember that much very well. I hadn't heard a Mazda on full song before this and was suitably impressed. Racing without different noises isn't racing - but we won't go there.
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