How did I get in with this bunch????a man of my upbringing
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How did I get in with this bunch????a man of my upbringing
Wasn't this thread about Pukekohe once upon a time?
Apparently they are starting on Puke this week.
May be F5000 running at Super Car meeting. That may bring in the crowd.
Been away fishing for a week and i come back to this carry on, now stop it you boy's or I will have to come and have a serious talk to all of you.
yes-yes & yes again erc its all about puke,i have had my say and will leave it at that.I started this thread about puke to get some good feed back but if you look today at what is going on in nz ,no one wants to work in with other views that are out there.
As it's Sunday morning I guess you feel a sermon is in order. Try the Destiny church with Bishop Brian, they might be more receptive.
I do struggle to understand what you and your mate are on about most of the time but as for love in my life! There's lots of it.
Have a truely loved up day.
All my love (with kisses & hugs)
Russ
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Right dad,the thing is it will all be on tv Rod so you cant win, put something on also that is not motorsport.look at all the infeild that they have at Puke.
I was on the net last night and this oversteer-sliding wildly sideways site came up ,and i see there is all this talk about puke hampton downs and the highlands complex in cromwell .i see this tony quinn was looking at taking over hampton downs but did not work out ,oversteer have had alot to say about the money that has been put up for the work on puke ,and had there say at what is going on with hampton downs does not look to good for this place at all. looking at what has been said maybe the long plan is for this tony quinn to get his hands on hampton downs allso, or maybe len brown has cooked up something to get hampton downs after all the hard work has been done for auckland maybe.
I go away for a couple of weeks and return to find that many are throwing more mud and stones than a BDA Escort rally car.
Off Subject:
Jac Mac. True story, many years ago you were sitting on the dummy grid and your car did have your name enscribed on it. I turned to another good old boy and asked "how long has Jac Mac been looking after that guys car?".
Yes you are a legend in the south and pretty damn well known in the total motorsport scene in the South Island.
ok, your view on what is going on with our race tracks today-carlo.
Mark Skaife talking about the changes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egdPq...ature=g-user-u
I find it very odd that Alan Dick (Oversteer article) feels that Greater Auckland isn't large enough to support two race tracks. My understanding and experience is that tracks need to be available for Tier 1 (or a supposedly top tier promotion); now you can also add Super Tourers; (Aussie V8s only account for one weekend a year) plus club events for classics, normal club racing, plus motorbikes, vintage bikes, drifting etc. With only one track and maybe just 35 - 40 usable weekends a year, one track just isn't enough. Auckland and northern club level guys, just do not have either the time or the budget to go to Manfeild more than maybe once a year and even Taupo is a squeeze.
If you are trying to run any mainly Auckland based series, (club/classic level) each needs a minimum of say 6 rounds to be viable, so having two tracks is almost essential.
The real pressure is on having sufficient volunteers to man both tracks on the same weekend. Spectator numbers are not really too important as most club meetings are self supporting anyway.
In the "good old days" the way into motorsport was to be a support person, it used to be called flag marshalling. In recent times I have volunteered to help when I can't compete, only to be turned down as I " don't have the training".
I have then been forced to watch, what I consider as a sometimes competitor, as barely adequate marshalling. In my humble opinion, there are plenty of volunteers being sidelined by a small minority of the old "give a man a title" type people who make this an unpleasant place to be. If they do turn out to man a post they are often belittled, and for sure will not return. I reckon that even people who have driven round a circuit as slowly as I, have more idea of what is needed by the competitors.
I'm really sorry to hear that any volunteer would be made to feel that way and certainly hope it wasn't any of our team. We're constantly on the look out for volunteers and have several racing drivers who come to meetings they're not competiting in to help out.
You're absolutely right about drivers being excellent marshals - they can 'read' a race in a way that takes us mere mortals years to learn and are excellent in passing this skill on.
If you'd like to come out and volunteer at one of the events we man, I'd be very pleased to see you - or any of the other forum users - on the "other side of the armco" for a day.
Deb
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Totally agree. Equally, it is a pity that every driver isn't required to marshal at two full race meetings, before they are issued with a race licence... Welcome Deb - keep popping in...
Only when you have been baked by the sun, soaked by the rain, frozen by the howling wind (often on the same day!) can you really appreciate just what the flaggies (and other officials) have to put up with. Even worse when some grids only have half a dozen cars. It is always nice when the drivers wave their thanks at the end of the race too.
At least these days, the marshals are better organised and better looked after than they used to be, with water and a midday snack, but it was/is a rare luxury to have sufficient numbers on a post to have a break.
yes-RSZWEI that was a good view on puke from mark skaife,maybe get mark skaife to go down to Ruapuna to do some work to make this track safe .because if you look at what went down with john mcintyre and how he went off at 250kmh just look at the state of his car, and what he said one very lucky man to be still walking around and look at the state he was in .they can fix the car alright they have done it before ,they say things come right if you give it time but i dont know about that i wish him all the best at getting fit and well again.
Looking at this one again ,the work has started on puke how far have they got with this.
How far have they got with the new part of puke.
Yea real neat, and if they get it a little wrong, wang concrete. Great for TV.
The jury is out.
Please explain how concrete barriers make the track safer?
Well in my case when my car was almost writen off by the turbo Escort ,Bruce would not have tried to go around Barrys Monaro,on the outside and onto the grass,sliding fifty yards facing the track till he hit the seal of the old chicane and still pulling 8000 rev rocketed accross,not long before {days} the escort had slid down the grass and taken out yards of fence same corner ,and I think this the best corner in NZ
Is it better that the Escort destroys itself on a concrete wall? The walls also bounce cars back onto the track so the problem you describe, Jim, is not necessarily fixed.
The run- off for that corner needs re-thinking and doing properly.
The concrete walls will be judged by history as stupid as the chicanes were. It will be the end of any motorcycle racing at Pukekohe, including the incredible classic meeting every February. They are configuring the circuit for the V8 Supercars to the detriment of many other users, so I can't see how that's "better."
I'm even more interested to see how much of my rates have been spent on decent toilets and concessions.
I love a good debate when no one wins,as I stated he would not have gone outside AS there will be no outside.
A run off would be a tunnell into the hill.
The Motorbikes use Paeroa and Wanganui and look at the Iles of Man ,are you insulting our riders, and lastly Murf who recently was all in favour of HD,,is it true he is related to Brownley and Co????
Believe it has stuffed it for any body but the TV Superstockcars, if the wall was there years back when Longhurst went down grass after coming on a car real quick and passed it and kept it together and back on track, that would have been different. Been down the grass myself Jimmy, lucky maybe but also believe it gave me time to sort out options before getting it straight and back on with out damage (luck & management). You were real unlucky that day.
Maybe, got to keep the car,,my first thought was take two mtrs, into the hill then a row of tyres all the way over the top, but I rather like a street circuit,and a nice feeling to get with in an inch of the barrier without lifting,.Yes I remember Tony that day ,something you dont see very often ,he did over 100 mtrs, on the wet ?? grass ,just kept the wheel pointing back onto the track ,bloody amazing
He had slightly quicker reflex's than us Jimmy, and maybe more talent.
The bike racers have already come out and said they would probably not run at the track because the barriers over the hill are too close to the track to allow them to put airbags in place.
The talk among historic single seaters seems to be that they will probably not run as any slight mistake (or avoiding another car that makes a slight mistake) will end up ripping off wheels and suspension.
Additionally, with the barriers so close to the track it means that any car the comes off over the hill will inevitably end up on the track (nowhere else to go) and the likelihood of it causing another accident are pretty strong.
Agree that all the ratepayers money seems to have been spent creating a track suitable for one weekends action without much consideration for the other 51 weeks of the year.
Exactly right RogerH. With the barriers being so close to the edge of the track over the hill, and the Supercar field within seconds of one another, they`ll be stacked four high in no time. As Rod said, she`ll make bloody good TV viewing!
And of course there is the Central Muscle Car guys running there as well..............
Interesting time will tell ,Wellington was prety good,I guess some drivers need plenty of room.
Man I hate this chap
And Formula Toyota. Could be an expensive learning curve for some classes.
Just use them for the V8s and get shot of them after the show has left town. that 10 foot high earth bank is fine, and leaves the a couple of meters of grass to skate down if needed.
As i am now living in the USA,Could someone please explain what exactly they have done to the track? Having been to the "old" track many times I am keen to know. as I understand it the back straight now has corners? Did they make it longer? Thanks in advance
This should help. I hear they've done alot out there and it's looking good. Relatively speaking.
Most have seen this i presume. Dale M