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Steve Holmes
01-14-2013, 01:13 AM
New thread here guys for discussing this years NZFMR. Below are the programme times for the various races and demonstration laps etc for the firs weekend. Looks like its going to be a big one!
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Steve Holmes
01-14-2013, 01:14 AM
Timetable for the second weekend.
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It would be good to have a 'get together' at HD with other members of this Forum so we can 'put faces to names'. Would someone who is more familiar with the venue than I am like to nominate a place?
fullnoise68
01-14-2013, 04:40 AM
The HMC marquee is going to be the easiest meeting point. While on the subject of other forum members, and I don`t want to start a shit fight, but all of us on here should consider paying an annual fee, I don`t know say $75, to help support Steve Holmes and his great work behind the scenes for all the members benefit of all classic and historic racing around the planet, not just in running this website, but all the little bits that go unseen - and unrewarded. I think it`s a small price to pay when you look at the big picture.
Other than we charge just $50 for ERC Series membership and it includes a great annual dinner...! (Happy for Steve to come along for free though!)
timbo61
01-14-2013, 05:55 AM
I'm heading across the ditch from Sydney for the second weekend, and hanging around Auckland for the NZ Air Show on the Monday 28th at North Shore Airfield.
It should be a good long weekend.
Frosty5
01-14-2013, 06:09 AM
The HMC marquee is going to be the easiest meeting point. While on the subject of other forum members, and I don`t want to start a shit fight, but all of us on here should consider paying an annual fee, I don`t know say $75, to help support Steve Holmes and his great work behind the scenes for all the members benefit of all classic and historic racing around the planet, not just in running this website, but all the little bits that go unseen - and unrewarded. I think it`s a small price to pay when you look at the big picture.
I'm with you Steve, the hours of enjoyment I've had from this site is immeasurable and what you are suggesting is a very good deal. One pays that amount or more to the banks for credit card "account maintenance"!!!!!
John B
01-14-2013, 02:10 PM
...all of us on here should consider paying an annual fee, I don`t know say $75, to help support Steve Holmes and his great work behind the scenes...
This idea was mooted some time ago, and I for one responded that it was a great idea. I think it was suggested at the time that Steve let us all know what he wanted to do, and what kind of fee / donation was appropriate. Steve, perhaps you are reluctant to 'ask' for money, but you need to provide us with some guidance here.
I would favour a donation scheme, only because the membership of the Forum varies from retirees on fixed incomes, to successful business people with the ability to donate more. The suggestion of $75 paid by 640 members would provide $48,000. Steve, what do you need to keep the Forum running successfully? Let us know, and maybe set up an account where we can make deposits.
ElCoyote
01-14-2013, 06:32 PM
I'm with you Steve, the hours of enjoyment I've had from this site is immeasurable and what you are suggesting is a very good deal. One pays that amount or more to the banks for credit card "account maintenance"!!!!!
What he said
Steve Holmes
01-14-2013, 08:38 PM
OK, thanks guys, I really appreciate the gesture. Oldfart (Rhys) created a thread for this a few months ago also. He likened it to paying a magazine subscription. Certainly, this website would be a whole lot better and have a lot more great stuff on it if I had more time to dedicate to it. And time is money. Essentially, I'm doing all this for free. I love it a lot, but it is time consuming. But for now this site is safe and it ain't going anywhere, at least not until my enthusiasm runs out!
I hate asking for money, and I won't do it. But as you guys have raised this point, I'll let everyone make their own minds up.
So, if anyone wants to make a donation, you choose the figure, and email me at: theroaringseason@gmail.com It would be much appreciated.
In the mean time, we better get this thread back on track, before the moderator kicks all our arses: The 2013 NZFMR.
Powder
01-14-2013, 11:23 PM
I emailed the event organisers last week about the tickets stating that the gates open (for spectators) at 9am, which happens to be when racing starts.
Apparently the gates will be open a little earlier, but please don't turn up at 7am!
fullnoise68
01-14-2013, 11:30 PM
I`d say if you want a good carpark, and not be in traffic jams and gate queues, 7am might be a good time to at least be there!
timbo61
01-14-2013, 11:55 PM
Does anyone know if an entry list has been released yet?
Quite often event organisers release an event schedule and entry list in the week leading up to the event.
Rod Grimwood
01-15-2013, 12:43 AM
I`d say if you want a good carpark, and not be in traffic jams and gate queues, 7am might be a good time to at least be there!
Yep 'Snooze you loose' be at your site for breakie ah Steve.
fullnoise68
01-15-2013, 01:51 AM
Rod, I see you can have a cooked breakfast each morning at the Pavillion building in the pits for $14.50 between 7am and 9am. Pretty good deal really. Just a short stroll from my bus!
Bruce302
01-15-2013, 06:24 AM
For a couple of bucks they could deliver it to you Mr fullnoise, Breakfast in bed. It doesn't get any better than that.
fullnoise68
01-15-2013, 07:06 AM
I`ll be outside waiting for them to open Bruce, I won`t be able to sleep, I just want to do some skids!
Rod Grimwood
01-15-2013, 07:15 AM
I`ll be outside waiting for them to open Bruce, I won`t be able to sleep, I just want to do some skids!
Steve we discussed this way back in the 80's straight line is quickest.
I had an entry list a few days ago, but am somewhat hors de combat at the moment... About 343 entrants
If the pedestrian entrance isn't open, your ticket should get you in the driver's paddock entrance - but not your car. I'll aim for breakfast at the track - if I am allowed to drive by then...
EType
01-16-2013, 06:51 AM
Chris Watson said at Taupo last weekend that ticket sales are 200% ahead of last year - sounds like it will be a great couple of weekends.
kiwi285
01-16-2013, 06:45 PM
They used to post entry lists but I haven't seen one for the last three Festivals now, which is a pity as I am sure it stirs people up and gets them to attend.
John McKechnie
01-16-2013, 06:47 PM
Mike-John McKechnie is entered
Rod Grimwood
01-16-2013, 08:22 PM
Mike-John McKechnie is entered
Hey, you get back in that shed and finish that car fella.
nigel watts
01-17-2013, 03:23 AM
They used to post entry lists but I haven't seen one for the last three Festivals now, which is a pity as I am sure it stirs people up and gets them to attend.
Fully agree with you MIke. Most of us would go regardless but there are certainly some who could be persuaded to go if they could see the quality of the entry lists.
Do you want me to post a full provisional entry on here, or sections of it? I can just about manage that I think. Getting a bit better - slowly, but my wife will have to drive me down Friday.
Frosty5
01-17-2013, 03:49 AM
Do you want me to post a full provisional entry on here, or sections of it? I can just about manage that I think. Getting a bit better - slowly, but my wife will have to drive me down Friday.
Yes, just do it please. The lot if able. cheers Dave
Sorry about the format. I haven't the time or stamina at the moment to sort it! If I had worked out how to post it as as an ex-Excel table, I would have, or I would have converted it to HTML.
I accept no responsibility whatever for any errors or omissions and this is provided as a rough guide only.
Note that this includes both weekends and Classic Trial and E30 BMW are not running at both.
Mark Pearson Alfa GT Junior
Greg Wood Alfa Romeo GTV
Craig Stacey AMC Javelin AMX
Robin Greenland Austin Mini Cooper
Glenn Allingham Chevrolet Camaro SS
Steve Elliott Chevrolet Camaro
John English Chevrolet Camaro
Kevin Gimblett Chevrolet Camaro
Ross Grimes Chevrolet Camaro
John Lord Chevrolet Camaro
Bill McKinnon Chevrolet Nova
Colin Warrington Chevrolet Camaro RS
Ricky Cooper Datsun 240Z
Ron Findlay Datsun 260Z 2+2
Dennis Mills Datsun P510
Ivan Selak Escort YB Cosworth
John Honore Ferrari 308GTB
David Brown Fiat 131R
Chris Havill Fiat Targa
Grant Aitken Ford Mustang Boss
Robert Berggren Ford Escort
Gordon Burr Ford Cologne Capri 3.4 GP2
Dean Cameron Ford Mustang
Mike Connolly Ford Escort
Rodger Cunninghame Ford Mustang
Mike Davidson Ford Sierra RS 500
John Dennehy Ford Escort BDG
Dennis Dowling Ford Anglia
Bruce Dreadon Ford Mustang
Matt Foster Ford Telstar
Robert Jack Ford Escort
Mike John Ford Telstar
Ethan Lind Ford Falcon Sprint
Bruce Manon Ford Escort RS2000
John McKechnie Ford XA* Coupe
John Miller Ford Escort
Steve Noyer Ford Mustang
Clark Proctor Ford Escort Mk1
John Sampson Ford Capri RS2600
Peter Stevenson Ford Mustang
David Thompson Jr Ford Escort Twincam
David Thompson Jr Ford Escort RS1600
Roger Townshend Ford Cologne Capri
Tony Vujnovich Ford Capri
Shane Wilson Ford Mustang
Nathan Wood Ford Fairmont XF
Rayden Smith Ford Escort Twin Cam
Dale Mathers Ford Mustang Boss 302
Gary Wilkinson Ford Zakspeed Escort Gp5
Roy Bingley Holden Commodore
Ben Boyden Holden Commodore VP
Tony Boyden Holden Commodore Gp A
Paul Burnet Holden Torana GTR-XU1
Paul Dreadon Holden Torana SS
Ryan Dreadon Holden Torana SS
John Elliott Holden Torana GTR XU1
Ross Graham Holden Torana LXSS
David O'Leary Holden Torana SLR5000
Brett Pearce Holden Monaro
Andrew Sinclair Holden Commodore
Veen Smith Holden Commodore SS
Steve Swann Holden Torana SS A9X
John Ure Jaguar Mk 2
Bill Williams Lotus Cortina Mk2
Stuart Eyre Mazda RX3
Debbie Hill Mazda RX7
Graeme Smyth Mazda RX7
Aidan Barrett Moffat Mazda RX7 Gp CR
John Barrett Moffat Mazda RX7 Gp CR
Angus Fogg Morris Cooper S
Gerald Fogg Morris Cooper S
Ian Woodward Pontiac Firebird
Kevin Cantwell Porsche 964 Cupcar
Kerry Chadderton Porsche 911SC
Kelvin Davis Porsche 944
Roger Davis Porsche 944 Turbo
Wayne Graves Porsche 911 RS Rep
Eddie Grooten Porsche 911 SC
Paul Halford Porsche 911S
David Mackrell Porsche 911CS
Paul Miller Porsche 911 Carrera 3.0
Graeme Park Porsche 944 S2
Michael Rasmussen Porsche 924S
Stephen Rasmussen Porsche 964 RS Cup
Stephen Rasmussen Porsche 911 2.4S
Nigel MacDonald Shelby Trans Am
Geoff Harriman Toyota AE86 Levin
Peter Hooper Toyota Starlet
Andre Mortimer Toyota Celica
Kane Walmsley Toyota Corolla AE111
Andrew Fox Triumph 2000
Allan Dippie TWR Rover SD1 Bastos Vitesse
Adrian Dobbe Vauxhall Viva
Ken Smith Ford Escort RS 2000
Bernie Huynen Austin Healey 3000 Mk 2
Arthur Vowles Alfa Romeo Duetto Spider
Frank Karl Austin Healey 3000 Mk3
Tony Gordon Chevrolet Corvette
Murray Sinclair Chevron B16
Russell Goodwin Jensen Healey
Gary Cooper Lotus Seven
Travis Engen Lotus 23B
John Hitch Lotus Elan 26R
Jason Leifting Lotus Europa 47 GT
Paul McCarthy Lotus Europa 47 GT
Richard McCarthy Lotus 7
Peter McLaughlin Lotus 23B
Roger Williams Mercedes 450
Don Roy MG BGT V8
Rex Bentham MGB Roadster
John Campbell MGB GT
Grant Kern MGB V8 Roadster
Mike McCowan MGB GT
Renton Murray MGB Roadster
Derek Atkinson Morgan Plus 8
Chris Fraser Morgan Plus 8
Ernie Nagamatsu Porsche Speedster
Tony Roberts Chevrolet Corvette Stingray
Andrew Higgins Lola T400
Graeme Cameron A D F
Glenn Swarbrick Alexis Mk9 F2
Kevin Taylor Alexis Mk9 F2
Vernon Williamson Ausper T3
Paul Halford Autosud FJ
Peter Avery Brabham BT16
Jeff Brown Brabham BT28 F3
Grant Clearwater Brabham BT16 F2
John Rapley Brabham BT2/6
Tony Simmons Brabham BT6
Eli Solomon Brabham BT18
Pierre Tonetti Brabham BT6
Pierre Tonetti Brabham BT6
David Watkins Brabham BT21 B-31
Allan Woolf Brabham BT9 F3
Tim Rush Braham BT4 IC-2-62
Gerald Duncan Cheetah 2
Martin Bullock Chevron B17C
Travis Engen Chevron B17B
Kevin Anderson Cooper T52
Wayne Carter Cooper T76 F3
George Cooper Cooper T59
Leonard May Cooper T56
Bruce Munro Cooper T76 F3
Garth Thomas Cooper T72 F3
Gregory Thornton Cooper T52
Malcolm Wishart Cooper T65
John Rowe Cooper Climax Type 45 F2
Jacob Bonisch Crossle 32F
Michael Clark Crossle 32F
James Hagan Crossle 16F
Don Hopkins Crossle 30F
Gilbert Cristini Crosslé 32F
Paul McMorran Crosslé 25F
Rob Douglas Donford FJ
Ben Field Elden Mk 8
Ron Wilkin Elden PRH 10
Bruce Carter Elfin FJ
Bill Hemming Elfin MR8
David Bishop Elva 100 FJ
Rob Williams Elva 100 FJ
Walter Findlay Elva-DKW 100 FJ
Anthony Olissoff Emeryson Elfin FJ
Nigel Russell FMZ FJ
Jim Barclay Gemini Mk3A FJ
Sir John Chisholm Gemini Mk3A
Michael Sexton Gemini Mk 2
Noel Woodford Gemini Mk3A* FJ
Paul Dold GLH 2
Lance Carwardine Jane Babham BT23
Nigel Huston Johnson FF
Brent Main Keram FF
David Abbott Lola T430
Bob Birrell Lola Mk 2
Peter Boel Lola Mk5A FJ
Blair Brownlee Lola T342
John Bryant Lola T140
Rod Carroll Lola T140
Chris Fraser Lola T342
Eric Haga Lola T190
Roger Herrick Lola Mk 2 FJ
Bernie Hines Lola T440
Robin Longdon Lola Mk5A
Bruce McCoy Lola T342
Bruce Munro Lola T340
Craig Munro Lola T340
Lindsay Porter Lola T644
Ian Staples Lola T440
Peter Anstiss Lotus 20/22
Chris Atkinson Lotus 20/22
John Holmes Lotus 18 FJ
Brian Searles Lotus 20/22
Paul Smeeth Lotus 22
Bob Deeming Lynx FJ MK2
Neil McCrudden Macon MR1 F2
John Holdsworth Merlyn Mk10 F3
Richard Willis Mildren Cooper Type 51
Mike Lee Mondiale M86S
Mike Gosbell Nota FJ
Vic Clarke Palliser WDF3
Dave Silverton PRS FF
Peter McLaughlin Ralt RT2
Alan Crocker Ray FF
Henry Thomas-Kircher Ray FF
Peter Barclay Repco Brabham BT21A
Victoria Le Gallais Repco Brabham BT15 F3
Tony Graham Reynard 85F
John Pickford Reynard 84/190
Norman Falkiner Stanguellini FJ
Povl Barfod Titan Mk 6
Phil Foulkes Trident Palliser
Kim Crocker Van Dieman
Kevin Butler Van Dieman RF80C
Richard Cullen Van Diemen FF
Richard Cullen Van Diemen FF
Noel Martin-Smith Van Diemen RF84
Malcolm Oastler Van Diemen RF80C
Ed Waalewijn Van Diemen RF-88
Allan Cattle Volpini FJ
Allan Woolf Volpini FJ
Martin Lucas Lotus 69
John Stone Audi Quattro
Allan Horner Austin Healey Sprite
Brian Day Ferrari 308 GT4
David Tolhurst Ford Capri GT
Edward Wild Jaguar XJ6
Rex Oddy Lotus Excel SE
John McCardle Maserati Merak SS
Paul Couper Mazda MX5
Peter O'Sullivan Mazda MX5
Ross Vaughan Mazda MX5
Ian Christie MGB GT
Brent Middlemiss Mini 1275GT
Syd Davis Porsche 944
Graham Hallen Toyota MR2
Arthur Hopkins Triumph TR 3
Sheridan Broadbent Valiant Pacer
Henry Oosterbaan Alton Holden AR2
Ken Williams BBM Mercedes Mk 2
Richard Wright Beowulf Mk 1
John McGregor Lotus Eleven Replica
Russell Bootten Lynx MK 2
Alan Hyndman Triford Special
Lindsay O'Donnell Begg FM5
Reg Cook Lola T400
Michael Creswell Lola T342
Alan Dunkley Lola T140
Mark Dwyer Lola T400 HU12
Jay Esterer Lola T642 HU 48
Stan Redmond Lola T333 HU1
Ken Smith Lola T332
Peter Sundberg Lola T332
Michael Whatley Lola T300
Brett Willis Lola T330
Shayne Windelburn Lola T400
Paul Zazryn Lola T332 HU32
Peter Dunn March 73A
Clark Proctor March 73A
Bryan Sala Matich A50/51
Nigel Tait Matich SR4-001
Aaron Lewis Matich Repco A50
Jay Esterer McBegg '
Poul Christie McLaren M10B
Bruce Leeson McLaren M10B
Philip Mauger McLaren M23 F1
Aaron Burson McRae GM1
Peter Burson McRae GM1
Steve Ross McRae GM1
Tim Rush McRae GM9
Alastair Russell McRae GM1
Alan Service McRae U2
Gregory Thornton McRae GM1
Warwick Mortimer Surtees TS5
Michael Whatley Surtees TS8
David Banks Talon MR1
Ian Clements Lola T332 Can-Am (Frisbee)
Paul Halford McLaren M1A/B
Barry Kirk-Burnnand McLaren M12
Paul Radisich McLaren M1A/B
Tony Roberts McLaren M8E/F
Roger Williams McLaren M8 E/F
Mike Ashton BMW 318i
Fred Bardon BMW 318i
Arron Black BMW E46
Stuart Black BMW E30
Robert Borrious Broek BMW M3 Group A
Paul Bradley BMW 320i
Alan Burgess BMW 328
Paul Clark BMW 318i
Wayne Cowley BMW E46 GTR 5L
Mark Crompton BMW 320i
Michael Delmont BMW 2002 Turbo
Warren Dunn BMW E30 M3
Gerald Fava BMW 320i
Alan Ferguson BMW 850CSi
Neville Findlay BMW Z3M Coupe
Warren Good BMW E36
Stephen Grellet BMW E30 M3
Matt Griffin BMW 320i
Grant Harrington BMW E30 325i
Peter Heaphy BMW 318i
Gerard Hodges BMW 635CSI
Tony Houston BMW 318i
John Hudson BMW 2002
Lance Hughes BMW 318
Mike Johnson BMW 318i
Barry Kirk-Burnnand BMW M3 GTR
Phil Laird BMW E30 325i
Ross Lamb BMW 320i
Zachary Lawrence BMW M635Csi
Graeme Linton BMW 320i
Neil Macfarquhar BMW M3 Sport Evo
Grant Mcfie BMW 320i
Grant Metson BMW 320i
Greg Mikkelsen BMW 318i
Paul Mill BMW Z3 M Coupe
Andre Mortimer BMW M3 E92
Warwick Mortimer BMW M3 GTR
John Mulrennan BMW 320i
Anthony Munns BMW 320i
Andrew Nugent BMW Z3 M Coupe
David O'Connor BMW E30 318i
Gareth O'Ryan BMW 330i
Callum Quin BMW 318i
Jim Richards BMW 635CSi
Peter Robinson BMW M3 Alpina Replica
Grant Roe BMW 318i
Daniel Rollason BMW E34 535is
Wayne Rowlands BMW 325i
Grant Schultz BMW 320i
Clint Scott BMW 320i
Oliver Shepherd BMW 318i
Philip Smurthwaite BMW 320i
David Stephens BMW E46 M3
Peter Sturgeon BMW 635CSi
John Thompson BMW 318i
John Thomson BMW 318i
Conrad Timms BMW M3 DTM
Kevin Underwood BMW E30 M3
Chris Watson BMW 333i
Howard Wood BMW 2002Tii
Powder
01-17-2013, 06:14 AM
Paul Radisich McLaren M1A/B
Thanks ERC. The Rat in a Mac, awesome.
I presume that could be Paul Halfords car (the one driven by Andy Booth last year). The Rat had a run in Neil Tolich's Mustang last year. I haven't seen the official programme yet nor had a recent look at the NZFR website.
nigel watts
01-17-2013, 06:49 PM
fantastic. Thanks for posting that - can't wait for tomorrow
Friday - a quick call in thanks to my kind wife driving me down...
Mike Sexton's Gemini FJ
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Barry Kirk-Burnand McLaren
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crunch
01-18-2013, 01:27 AM
Up at 4am in the morning to get to HD to see the undoubtedably fabulous show that will happen. Then another 5 hour drive home tomorrow night...back to reality. Looking forward to it. Also really looking forward to just shooting the breeze with the HMC guys.
Also really looking forward to just shooting the breeze with the HMC guys.
and????
timbo61
01-18-2013, 06:40 AM
Just looked at Friday's times on mylaps.
It's a pity there aren't more Can-Am cars running. The organisers had hoped for around 20 cars, but 9 practiced and qualified.
I suppose time and money would be the main issues.
Angus Fogg 4th fastest 1:16. Unbelieveable.
crunch
01-20-2013, 03:22 AM
Great day, great machinery and great friendly discussions with all and sundry. Well worth the 18 hour round trip and horrendous sunburn!
Steve Holmes
01-20-2013, 06:56 AM
Woah! After an 8 hour trip to Hampton Downs on Thursday, then three days of too much sun, beer, and shooting the bull, and another 3 hour trip up to Whangarei this evening, I'm shattered! But I'd just like to say a huge thanks to the organisers of the NZFMR. What a world class event.
I'd also like to say a big thanks to all those Roaring Season members who came up and introduced yourselves. It was really great to put some faces to names (or usernames) of people I'd not yet met. What a great bunch of people we have on this site! I really enjoyed meeting each and every one of you, and catching up with those I already knew.
I'll be back for the second weekend of the NZFMR, so if any of you folks are attending, please come up and say gidday.
Shoreboy57
01-21-2013, 01:54 AM
HMC or F5000. Too close to call. Brilliant weekend. Just a shame there weren't a few more Can Ams to match the other v8s
crunch
01-21-2013, 02:22 AM
Blame Tony Roberts for that Shoreboy...he broke one of them in the morning on Saturday. Hopefully the guru (Duncan Fox) will have it ready for next weekend. Question is;......should Tony drive it???? Think I could fit in that cockpit....
Shoreboy57
01-21-2013, 03:15 AM
Blame Tony Roberts for that Shoreboy...he broke one of them in the morning on Saturday. Hopefully the guru (Duncan Fox) will have it ready for next weekend. Question is;......should Tony drive it???? Think I could fit in that cockpit....
I'm sure the volunteers are lining up....
Hope it is up and running, as I haven't yet managed to see that group race. Hopefully I'll also be able to drive myself by this weekend and spend all of Friday and Saturday at the track, so I'll happily withdraw from the list of wannabe McLaren drivers - this time.
The extra tarseal and grass in the paddock area and much improved PA system shows the steady improvement and progress at HD. Nice coffee too.
Spent the last 2 days at HD. What a fantastic event!!!! I should have been competing but a couple of f--k ups by an engine reconditioning firm put paid to that. Excellent numbers (except perhaps for the Can Am cars) and, unlike some "classic" meetings, not full of Lotus 7 replicas, Mazda MX5's etc. What was most impressive though was the continued improvements at HD-paths have been sealed and the facilities in general are superb.
Makes a bloke wonder why the Government and others would put money into Pukekohe-it would take many millions of dollars just to get it up to a similar standard to HD let alone make it better.
nigel watts
01-21-2013, 08:17 AM
I saw John Greenwood's "Spirit of "76" racing at Le Mans in 1976.
If this 'vette is anything like that one we're in for a rare treat - I can feel the ground shake already!!
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Lee Tracey
01-21-2013, 08:38 AM
Was watching a clip of the HMC lads on fb earlier and was wondering when it was filmed as the crowds looked to be non existant from the in car footages. :(
Will be going next Sunday for my dose.
Cheers
Lee
Malcolm McLeod
01-21-2013, 08:42 AM
Can I just say a big thank-you to all the people who are involved with, and organise, the official saturday night BBQ dinners at Hamptons. Good food, good entertainment, good company, and no egos!
Fun quizzes (if you were there, and saw a fat person in a white shirt running up to the stage, to win a prize, that was me !!!), and many a delightful conversation with the legends that were there.
Oh yeah, and people getting the odd autograph as well - I managed to get Jim Richards to autograph a couple of 1972 Heatway Rally booklets of mine, which featured his MORRIS MARINA on the front. He commented that he believes that he is the only person to win a Special Stage on an International Rally in a Marina....
I was also lucky to miss out on a big stack of second-hand Motorsport books that the Bruce McLaren Trust had been given to sell, although I still bought an Autocourse annual as "the price was right"...also bought a copy of Allan Scott's book "TWR and Jaguar's XJS Inside Tom Walkinshaw's Group A Racing Team" which I can well recommend to all. it is the first of 4 books he is writing which will eventually cover the Croup C Jag's, the Rover era, and the early years. In fact the Rover book is written, and due to be released later this year....the XJS book is 320 pages, the Rover book over 400!
Rod Grimwood
01-21-2013, 09:10 AM
Was watching a clip of the HMC lads on fb earlier and was wondering when it was filmed as the crowds looked to be non existant from the in car footages. :(
Will be going next Sunday for my dose.
Cheers
Lee
Friday morning practice
Murray Maunder
01-21-2013, 09:44 AM
And the afternoon qualifying session
nigel watts
01-21-2013, 10:10 AM
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nigel watts
01-21-2013, 10:29 AM
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crunch
01-22-2013, 12:32 AM
...so why didnt Tony borrow the other "old blue" corvette???
Rod Grimwood
01-22-2013, 01:31 AM
More than likely a 100 thousand or more reasons Crunch at a guess.
Powder
01-22-2013, 02:16 AM
More than likely a 100 thousand or more reasons Crunch at a guess.
Perhaps the documentation for next years festival will include in the fineprint something like... "The venue owners reserve the right to race any cars parked within the boundary of said venue free of charge."
Perhaps the documentation for next years festival will include in the fineprint something like... "The venue owners reserve the right to race any cars parked within the boundary of said venue free of charge."
...provided the roll cage conforms to 2013 rules and is not a period item.
PhotoSmith
01-22-2013, 04:25 AM
Photos from Saturday - F5000's
PhotoSmith
01-22-2013, 05:28 AM
More from Saturday....
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crunch
01-22-2013, 05:57 AM
...provided the roll cage conforms to 2013 rules and is not a period item.
Can be a period cage if the car has a Schedule K classification and/or Schedule AA scrutineering.
nigel watts
01-22-2013, 06:08 AM
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wynna7
01-22-2013, 07:06 AM
Can be a period cage if the car has a Schedule K classification and/or Schedule AA scrutineering.
Well said Crunch!
wynna7
01-22-2013, 07:13 AM
Tongue in cheek...
Your tongue might be in yours, mine wasn't.
nigel watts
01-22-2013, 07:18 AM
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PhotoSmith
01-22-2013, 08:28 AM
FJ, F3 + FF
tonttu
01-22-2013, 06:36 PM
Was the McBegg running Sunday and if so any photos? Anyone know what the problem was on Saturday?
Steve Holmes
01-22-2013, 10:45 PM
Absolutely beautiful photos guys, thanks to everyone who has contributed, both with photos and details of the event. I checked this thread on Sunday night when I reached my motel, and in the 2.5 days since, its had nearly 1,500 page views! Amazing, and clearly hugely popular.
Murray Maunder
01-23-2013, 03:16 AM
Steve, do you know how many views on the HMC thread over the last few days? I see the total is sitting on a massive 48K! Seems the musclecars were showstoppers. The HMC YouTube has had a good number of views with quite a few in Aus and UK.
Had to love the impressive F5000 turnout and hope for better support in the future for CanAm. Is Tony's M8E/F going to be running this weekend. Question mark on the McLaren Trust M8A too.
faminz
01-23-2013, 06:30 AM
can am runners on Sunday morning... not the best photo but taken from an apartment balcony with an ultra zoom compact Canon!
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faminz
01-23-2013, 06:37 AM
and whats the history of this old McLaren that was sitting in the pits...??
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I'll try and find out this weekend - unless someone comes up with an answer.
There is a very rare, early McLaren F1 car (in bits), recently imported into NZ too.
PhotoSmith
01-23-2013, 07:06 AM
Group A...etc
PhotoSmith
01-23-2013, 07:11 AM
Group A - continued
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01-23-2013, 07:59 AM
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01-23-2013, 08:00 AM
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Shoreboy57
01-23-2013, 09:06 AM
I'll try and find out this weekend - unless someone comes up with an answer.
There is a very rare, early McLaren F1 car (in bits), recently imported into NZ too.
Any idea which model? M7 please
tonttu
01-23-2013, 09:07 AM
Fantastic thanks Nigel
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01-23-2013, 09:47 AM
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Rod Grimwood
01-23-2013, 10:18 AM
Nigel, if you are near F5000 No. 16 please come and catch up, would love to meet you. (have some questions for you, about old days) cheers.
Well off to pack bag and on road first thing in morning, ye ha another weekend of history and fun.
nigel watts
01-23-2013, 05:42 PM
Nigel, if you are near F5000 No. 16 please come and catch up, would love to meet you. (have some questions for you, about old days) cheers.
Well off to pack bag and on road first thing in morning, ye ha another weekend of history and fun.
Rod, sorry but I wont be there this weekend. At the risk of being excommunicated, hung drawn & quartered, spit roasted etc - I'm off to Taupo to see the wild bunch [CMC] and pre '65's
kiwi285
01-24-2013, 12:19 AM
and whats the history of this old McLaren that was sitting in the pits...??
15155
Hi Brett,
I was told that it was the only surviving M8B (one of only two) and that a gentleman in the South Island has purchased it and is getting Duncan Fox to rebuild it for him.
kiwi285
01-24-2013, 12:47 AM
I'll try and find out this weekend - unless someone comes up with an answer.
There is a very rare, early McLaren F1 car (in bits), recently imported into NZ too.
Can you give us any clues as to which model F1 it might be. Would love to see an M7 or an M14 in this country.
I'd need to speak to the owner before I divulged too much publically. I'll ask him tomorrow or Saturday all being well.
I'll be taking pics Friday/Saturday so if anyone hasn't had a pic taken yet and wants one, better post on here with car number/class... Just remember I don't have media accreditation so I can only take pics from the public areas - and I'll need a lie down or two during the day when the pain gets too much for me when the morning morphine wears off!
kiwi285
01-24-2013, 01:31 AM
I'd need to speak to the owner before I divulged too much publically. I'll ask him tomorrow or Saturday all being well.
I'll be taking pics Friday/Saturday so if anyone hasn't had a pic taken yet and wants one, better post on here with car number/class... Just remember I don't have media accreditation so I can only take pics from the public areas - and I'll need a lie down or two during the day when the pain gets too much for me when the morning morphine wears off!
Hi ERC, Our motorhome ('Hawkeye') will be in the paddock area down by turn 3 so call in a say gidday (and have a break if you need one).
Cheers Mike
Horizon
01-24-2013, 01:34 AM
Can you give us any clues as to which model F1 it might be. Would love to see an M7 or an M14 in this country.
It's reportly to be the BRM M4B F1. The car was that was burnt to the ground tyre testing for firestone at Goodwoodi n the late 60's.
Howden Ganley told me last November that he was given the suspension of the remains after the fire for another project. Remains to be seen if it is the real deal. Hoping for the best..but unlikely !
Hi Brett,
I was told that it was the only surviving M8B (one of only two) and that a gentleman in the South Island has purchased it and is getting Duncan Fox to rebuild it for him.
Tell him to get in line until Duncan finishes the McLaren Trust car...:)
EDIT : I've just spotted on the NZFMR facebook page that the car's done and looks a treat!! Worth the wait.
GeebeeNZ
01-24-2013, 05:36 AM
Hi guys,
I cant walk far after breaking my leg at the end of October and I am hoping to be at HD on Sunday. If you see a guy on a mobility scooter in a Roaring Season T shirt I would appreciate it if you would say Hello.
Graeme
Bruce302
01-24-2013, 05:47 AM
The event got a nice review on Speedhunters: http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/01/nzfmr-2013-where-can-am-meets-group-a/
The word is getting out there.
Hope to catch up with more of you this weekend. I am hanging around that 141 Firebird by the HMC.
Bruce.
nigel watts
01-24-2013, 08:22 AM
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01-24-2013, 08:26 AM
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AMCO72
01-25-2013, 06:56 AM
Boys.......I have threatened to do this on numerous occasions on the roaring season as you know......now I think the time has come.......the walrus may have said it originally, but now I am saying it.........TIME TO STAY HOME AND DO MY KNITTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to everyone for their kind words and encouragement.
It's reportly to be the BRM M4B F1. The car was that was burnt to the ground tyre testing for firestone at Goodwood in the late 60's.
Howden Ganley told me last November that he was given the suspension of the remains after the fire for another project. Remains to be seen if it is the real deal. Hoping for the best..but unlikely !
Apparently it is the real deal... I have seen the bits that were purchased and may be seeing it again Monday.
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01-25-2013, 07:06 AM
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rogered
01-25-2013, 07:07 AM
dont let a couple of broken head lights beat you gerald
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01-25-2013, 07:18 AM
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Shoreboy57
01-25-2013, 08:49 AM
Best to everyone for a great weekend. Just sorry I cannot be there for part 2
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01-25-2013, 09:26 AM
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Murray Maunder
01-25-2013, 10:57 AM
Hi Brett,
I was told that it was the only surviving M8B (one of only two) and that a gentleman in the South Island has purchased it and is getting Duncan Fox to rebuild it for him.
This rebuild has been on the floor of Duncan Fox's workshop nearly as long as the Trust's M8A. Duncan and Tony (Roberts) of Group Seven Sportscars took the opportunity to pick up the remains of the car which had indeed been one of 3 McLaren M8Bs in 1969. That opportunity was to be able to build the two cars in parallel. For example the tubs of the two cars were almost identical. In fact the Trust car started life as Denny's CanAm winner in 1968 before becoming the "mule" for the M8B and subsequently the team's spare car. The other M8B (of original 3 which included the above "continuation" car) was trashed, as I understand because of severe corrosion on the salt-laden roads of Nth America on the way back to the McLaren base.
This means of the original 3 (or 2.5!) M8Bs there will only ever be one true M8B - the one pictured in the Trust's garage at the Festival. I can't recall if this was Bruce's racecar or Denny's racecar (the Trust car being at different times an A and the spare B). The M8B high wing car was the most successful of all the CanAm McLarens, winning all 11 races in 1969.
Incidentally the Trust car didn't run again this weekend because of major problems with the starter which is proving a headache in term of sourcing the parts. A less authentic set of internals is now going to be used to overcome the absence of any originals.
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01-25-2013, 08:02 PM
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01-26-2013, 04:04 AM
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01-26-2013, 04:13 AM
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01-26-2013, 04:19 AM
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A surprising number of absentees Saturday, with just 5 CanAms, but another very good crowd. Agree, AMCO, would love to see you back again. Sorry about the hiccup though.
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01-26-2013, 04:23 AM
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01-26-2013, 04:27 AM
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01-26-2013, 04:28 AM
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Bruce302
01-27-2013, 06:09 AM
Hey Everyone,
Have misplaced an iPad mini today, would appreciate any information.
Mobile: 021929966
Email: bandst@ihug.co.nz
Many Thanks
Bruce302
Russ Cunningham
01-27-2013, 06:12 AM
Great pics Nigel. Not very interested in attending races myself but thank you.
Michael Clark
01-27-2013, 09:59 AM
Great photos and great to meet Steve yesterday too!
Jerry Entin
01-27-2013, 02:25 PM
Great pictures Nigel, thanks for posting.
nigel watts
01-27-2013, 09:41 PM
Cheers Jerry, Michael & Russ
I'm always hopeful that if overseas owners/drivers can see what the festival is all about they might be tempted into bringing their cars out here and joining in the fun.
Bruce302 - hope you've found your iPad mini
nigel watts
01-27-2013, 09:43 PM
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01-27-2013, 09:45 PM
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01-27-2013, 09:58 PM
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Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:19 AM
Had avery good day yesterday. Yes some of the fields were depleted. Yes HD still lacks any shade. But I did get to meet Steve and Mike Fiesst as well as Ray Stone @ the HMC tent. And I was even at the right place, and ready when the F5000 feature race was decided
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/DennyFest/381_zpsba76ab5d.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/DennyFest/382_zpscab55cfc.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/DennyFest/384_zpsa5cdb3c8.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/DennyFest/383_zps4dddf120.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/DennyFest/385_zps95952d53.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/DennyFest/386_zps0171cb09.jpg
Capturing this whole sequence gave me immense satisfaction.
Cheers
Lee
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:23 AM
Other stuff I managed to capture
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/025_zpse6cf1cb5.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/026_zpsd83115e7.jpg
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/042_zps0f1985d1.jpg
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:25 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/032_zps47d48e31.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/043_zpsc053a073.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/046_zps17ecd09b.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/047_zpsfaeaac4f.jpg
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:29 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/061_zpsfc182872.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/062_zps7c13f69b.jpg
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/076_zpsbbf755af.jpg
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:32 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/084_zpsec508468.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/085_zps3d3e1943.jpg
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/089_zpsc7bd9660.jpg
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:35 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/090_zpsa14ba8df.jpg
The losing of the race
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/096_zpsbebea8fe.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/097_zpsf256806c.jpg
Unfortunately the 635 moved over to his left causing Black to lift slightly and have to shift his line
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:38 AM
F5000 Preliminary
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/101_zps6ef384b2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/103_zps21635b5f.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/104_zps923b56af.jpg
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/108_zps71a76ed8.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/111_zpsadaa259f.jpg
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:41 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/112_zpsc6f0c11c.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/117_zpsf2cc8e93.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/118_zps268b9f99.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/126_zps83341112.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/128_zps2275071f.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/132_zps77376c70.jpg
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:46 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/139_zps71db8c5e.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/141_zpsf7a76eb7.jpg
Go Stu!!
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/143_zps1a994afc.jpg
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/150_zpsb9c4efb2.jpg
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:49 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/151_zps99b0cd3e.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/155_zps1791d751.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/158_zps0590fa9d.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/159_zps1b767ddf.jpg
Go The Little Rota! :D
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/161_zps36820605.jpg
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:51 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/162_zpsb7d5a913.jpg
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/167_zps48698c59.jpg
Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:54 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/173_zpsc0c86e03.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/174_zpse846bcae.jpg
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Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:56 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/198_zps7bab3437.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/197_zps8f89f392.jpg
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Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 04:59 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/212_zps5daae6a0.jpg
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Lee Tracey
01-28-2013, 05:01 AM
Still need to do a lot of practice with the panning shots
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/239_zps977ca796.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/246_zpsab985f17.jpg
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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/leetra/nzfmr13/257_zps299341bb.jpg
Bruce302
01-28-2013, 05:02 AM
Yes the ipad has been located. It turned up in Tauranga having been wrapped in T shirts in the mad pack-up rush. It is being couriered back to Akl. My thanks and gratitude to Dale Mathers and his crew.
Bruce.
Cheers Jerry, Michael & Russ
I'm always hopeful that if overseas owners/drivers can see what the festival is all about they might be tempted into bringing their cars out here and joining in the fun.
Bruce302 - hope you've found your iPad mini
Shano
01-28-2013, 07:37 AM
Can Am train - this would have to be the most Can Am sports cars ever in this country.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/benderboat/IMG_0844_zps3aafa225.jpg
Steve Holmes
01-28-2013, 11:29 PM
Wow, what awesome photos you guys! Its so exciting for to see these appearing so quickly. Several were on here during the event! Really good for those who couldn't attend.
Thanks to everyone who took the time to come say hello to me. It was really great to put faces to the names.
Steve Holmes
01-28-2013, 11:32 PM
Great photos and great to meet Steve yesterday too!
It was great to finally meet you too Michael. And I was really impressed by your work on the mike at the bbq. Outstanding effort!
Steve Holmes
01-28-2013, 11:47 PM
This rebuild has been on the floor of Duncan Fox's workshop nearly as long as the Trust's M8A. Duncan and Tony (Roberts) of Group Seven Sportscars took the opportunity to pick up the remains of the car which had indeed been one of 3 McLaren M8Bs in 1969. That opportunity was to be able to build the two cars in parallel. For example the tubs of the two cars were almost identical. In fact the Trust car started life as Denny's CanAm winner in 1968 before becoming the "mule" for the M8B and subsequently the team's spare car. The other M8B (of original 3 which included the above "continuation" car) was trashed, as I understand because of severe corrosion on the salt-laden roads of Nth America on the way back to the McLaren base.
This means of the original 3 (or 2.5!) M8Bs there will only ever be one true M8B - the one pictured in the Trust's garage at the Festival. I can't recall if this was Bruce's racecar or Denny's racecar (the Trust car being at different times an A and the spare B). The M8B high wing car was the most successful of all the CanAm McLarens, winning all 11 races in 1969.
Incidentally the Trust car didn't run again this weekend because of major problems with the starter which is proving a headache in term of sourcing the parts. A less authentic set of internals is now going to be used to overcome the absence of any originals.
I was stunned to see this car at the event. As you've said Murray, McLaren built two new M8Bs for the 1969 Can-Am season, and upgraded Dennys 1968 M8A to '69 B specs to use as a test mule and spare. My understanding based on the chassis numbers, would be that the M8B on display was Bruce's 1969 car, and therefore the car which he drove for much of that season. He won the 1969 Can-Am championship, and given the McLaren Trust M8A was the car was Dennys, and he won the 1968 Can-Am, then these are the two championship winning cars from 1968 and 1969. Pretty impressive stuff!
RacerT
01-29-2013, 01:06 AM
I was stunned to see this car at the event. As you've said Murray, McLaren built two new M8Bs for the 1969 Can-Am season, and upgraded Dennys 1968 M8A to '69 B specs to use as a test mule and spare. My understanding based on the chassis numbers, would be that the M8B on display was Bruce's 1969 car, and therefore the car which he drove for much of that season. He won the 1969 Can-Am championship, and given the McLaren Trust M8A was the car was Dennys, and he won the 1968 Can-Am, then these are the two championship winning cars from 1968 and 1969. Pretty impressive stuff!
Hi Steve. Not quite correct. It was Denny's car. Denny's M6A and M8A were -2, but Denny's M8B and M8D were -1. Just to confuse the anaraks! I thought this was our best Festival yet. Not a single wet day. We were pleased to get the Mcaren M8E/F going for the second weekend. Still needs a lot of set-up work. Pity about my poor old Corvette war horse! Don't know why it blew. First time a piece of my car has finished higher up the field than me!
TR
hilstwist
01-29-2013, 03:48 AM
GREAT SHOTS WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN THERE.WHATS THE STORY ON THE WHITE 67 #35 SHELBY MUSTANG? IS IT OLD RED DAWSON CAR RESTORED TO HOW IT WAS WHEN IT WAS FIRST RACED BY FRANK BRYAN? ALSO IS THAT AMC JAVELIN AN ACTUAL EX TRANS AM CAR? GRET TO SEE THOSE OLD MCLARENS TOO
Steve Holmes
01-29-2013, 04:00 AM
Thanks for clarifying that Tony. And really exciting to see the M8B. What happened to Bruce's 1969 car? And which chassis was Lothar Motschenbacher racing in 1970?
Steve Holmes
01-29-2013, 04:03 AM
GREAT SHOTS WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN THERE.WHATS THE STORY ON THE WHITE 67 #35 SHELBY MUSTANG? IS IT OLD RED DAWSON CAR RESTORED TO HOW IT WAS WHEN IT WAS FIRST RACED BY FRANK BRYAN? ALSO IS THAT AMC JAVELIN AN ACTUAL EX TRANS AM CAR? GRET TO SEE THOSE OLD MCLARENS TOO
Yep Steve the white #35 is the old Frank Bryan/Red Dawson Shelby Mustang. Its not really restored, this is how its current owner Nigel bought it back off David Bowden. Its in good shape, although the rear quarters need work. But Nigel will eventually restore it back to how it was when Red raced it, ie, metallic blue with the big gold numbers.
The AMC is Craig Staceys. Its not a Trans-Am car, but a tribute car.
RacerT
01-29-2013, 05:11 AM
Thanks for clarifying that Tony. And really exciting to see the M8B. What happened to Bruce's 1969 car? And which chassis was Lothar Motschenbacher racing in 1970?
Bruce's M8B-2 was burnt out in the 1970' and the wreck is in California awaiting a rebuild. Lothar was racing the Trust's M8A-2, which although upgraded to a 'B', still retained the 'A' tag.
Nice shot of the ventilated sump on the Corvette!15506
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01-29-2013, 05:49 AM
Bruce's M8B-2 was burnt out in the 1970' and the wreck is in California awaiting a rebuild. Lothar was racing the Trust's M8A-2, which although upgraded to a 'B', still retained the 'A' tag.[/ATTACH]
This is it isn't it Tony, a very valuable McLaren once restored. Dale M
Steve Holmes
01-29-2013, 06:20 AM
Bruce's M8B-2 was burnt out in the 1970' and the wreck is in California awaiting a rebuild. Lothar was racing the Trust's M8A-2, which although upgraded to a 'B', still retained the 'A' tag.
Nice shot of the ventilated sump on the Corvette!15506
Thats quite a hole! You could just about stick your head up inside there and have a look around!
Thanks for the clarification on the M8Bs. For a long time I'd assumed the car Motschenbacher raced in 1970 (M8A upgraded to M8B specs) was gone. He actually raced 3 McLarens that season. He began with the ex-works M8A/B and did very well with this car, regularly qualifying in the top four, and even lined up next to Hulme on the front row at Mid Ohio. But he crashed this car heavily at Elkhart Lake. He returned for the next race in his old 1969 M12 customer car, which he ran for two races before a new M8C customer car arrived. But he didn't seem to race the M8B again after its Elkhart Lake shunt, so I assumed this car was gone. Great to know its actually the car the McLaren Trust own!
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PhotoSmith
01-29-2013, 06:38 AM
F5000 - a selection from Sundays photos. (2 weekend)
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01-29-2013, 06:41 AM
F5000 cont......
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01-29-2013, 07:30 AM
Excellent shots Martin - keep 'em coming
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01-29-2013, 07:41 AM
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PhotoSmith
01-29-2013, 07:45 AM
Excellent shots Martin - keep 'em coming
Thanks Nigel, yours are great - as always. Just upload the some onto the HMC thread as well.
Cheers
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01-30-2013, 06:52 AM
More from Last Sunday - Group A etc this time...........
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01-30-2013, 06:56 AM
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Formula Ford/Tasman/Junior etc
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Richard Gee
01-31-2013, 06:38 AM
Just spent about an hour reading through the thread. Its wonderful to know the event attracts such interest and praise. We are aware that searching for perfection is a tough game, but we try every year to make the event a bit better than the last.
We have been inundated with some really nice messages and comments about the Denny Hulme events, and we just wanted to say back, officially..
Thank You.
Great forum by the way. Off for a look in some of the other threads now.
Cheers all,
Richard Gee
NZFMR Director
Kiwiboss
01-31-2013, 07:19 AM
Just spent about an hour reading through the thread. Its wonderful to know the event attracts such interest and praise. We are aware that searching for perfection is a tough game, but we try every year to make the event a bit better than the last.
We have been inundated with some really nice messages and comments about the Denny Hulme events, and we just wanted to say back, officially..
Thank You.
Great forum by the way. Off for a look in some of the other threads now.
Cheers all,
Richard Gee
NZFMR Director
You finally found your way to TRR and first post for you Richard, great to have you on here, this is were all the action is mate!!
Dale M
beowulf
01-31-2013, 07:36 AM
Congratulations Richard and your team for a great event. I have been to race meetings in Europe, England, and Australia, this one would be one of the best for atmosphere, cars and drivers. I thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing.
Wonderful to see so many top photos to bring back memories. I can't wait for next years meeting.
Just spent about an hour reading through the thread. Its wonderful to know the event attracts such interest and praise. We are aware that searching for perfection is a tough game, but we try every year to make the event a bit better than the last.
We have been inundated with some really nice messages and comments about the Denny Hulme events, and we just wanted to say back, officially..
Thank You.
Great forum by the way. Off for a look in some of the other threads now.
Cheers all,
Richard Gee
NZFMR Director
Nice to catch up with you Richard. Although I wasn't racing (perhaps as well with a crook shoulder!) I also thought the atmosphere was great. For me, it made a change having the time to actualy chat to people and take pics.
Looking forward to next year's Ferrari celebration. I doubt we'll get as many overseas drivers in 2014 but the overall costs of bringing a car to NZ from Europe in their winter, racing at two or three or even four events, is probably better value cashwise for them and gives them more track time than a whole season in the northern hemisphere, so maybe we need to market these festivals overseas even harder than we already do - and it also brings in tourist dollars!
For us locals, seeing so many overseas cars is the real highlight and for the overseas visitors, they love to see our cars.
Like Beowulf, I have spectated at many circuits, and Hampton Downs and Goodwood are head and shoulders above the rest. I wouldn't go back to Monaco though. The glamour does not make up for being coralled in one section of the track nor the programme which has 10 minutes of racing followed by 45 minutes of inactivity.
NZ runs race meetings far better than the Europe and the UK - and they are better value for both drivers and spectators.
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Great pics as always. Shame they didn't have this class both weekends. I hate to say it, but the CanAms would have been better as a demo and these saloons given another outing.
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02-02-2013, 02:36 AM
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Great shots , liking the HB Viva , makes a nice change .
Malcolm McLeod
02-02-2013, 06:06 AM
What you don't notice in the photo's, bloody brilliant as they are, is that ALL the signwriting on the Rover, including driver's country flags, are hand painted.
That's always the thing that bugs me about restorations that people do these days - the computor graphics that are done because there is a real shortage of people that can signwrite the "old fashioned" way.
Maybe I'm just old and fussy :-)
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I still have a couple of tins of signwriter's black they used before stick on numbers were the norm! At each event, the signwriter would be around scrutineering/documentation with his mahl stick, brushes and both white and black paint. Another bit of history lost.
Rod Grimwood
02-02-2013, 10:13 PM
My mate the sign writer would find it hard to keep his hand still now. Always reckon he was better with a couple of cans under the belt.
jim short
02-02-2013, 11:31 PM
I doubt if any were beter than {Toenails" lost his legs when 4yrs." watched him doing the side of Telstar at Manfield some years back ,wondered how he could do the windscreen.No problem just swung onto the bonet with ease,nothing he could not do, swim, fly a plane, race cars circuit and W.Springs,Travels the world helping folks to a beter life!!
fullnoise68
02-03-2013, 12:10 AM
My mate the sign writer would find it hard to keep his hand still now. Always reckon he was better with a couple of cans under the belt.
Rod, I`m glad I did a full signwriting apprenticeship in the late `70`s, rather than the `graphics applicator' course of today. When I`m not busy with the machinery imports, I enjoy helping people with their motorsport restorations doing the lettering by brushwork, but it is becoming a vanishing trade.
I doubt if any were beter than {Toenails" lost his legs when 4yrs." watched him doing the side of Telstar at Manfield some years back ,wondered how he could do the windscreen.No problem just swung onto the bonet with ease,nothing he could not do, swim, fly a plane, race cars circuit and W.Springs,Travels the world helping folks to a beter life!!
Is that Tony Christiansen you're talking about, Jim? I was at school with him, bloody hell he had some go in him !
Believe he's been to Bonneville in the last few years as well. A great inspiration to those amongst us who are "too busy" or it's "too hard" to get stuff done.
nigel watts
02-03-2013, 01:52 AM
Is that Tony Christiansen you're talking about, Jim? I was at school with him, bloody hell he had some go in him !
Believe he's been to Bonneville in the last few years as well. A great inspiration to those amongst us who are "too busy" or it's "too hard" to get stuff done.
Tony is currently an elected member for Tauranga City Council
Steve Holmes
02-03-2013, 08:24 PM
Wow, you guys posting all these photos, you're a talented bunch! These are just fantastic and I'm really enjoying looking through them all. Great work!
Steve Holmes
02-03-2013, 08:26 PM
Just spent about an hour reading through the thread. Its wonderful to know the event attracts such interest and praise. We are aware that searching for perfection is a tough game, but we try every year to make the event a bit better than the last.
We have been inundated with some really nice messages and comments about the Denny Hulme events, and we just wanted to say back, officially..
Thank You.
Great forum by the way. Off for a look in some of the other threads now.
Cheers all,
Richard Gee
NZFMR Director
Hi there Richard, its great to see you on here. Glad you like the site, and congratulations to you and the rest of the team for putting on such a superb, world class event.
jim short
02-03-2013, 08:41 PM
Yes thats him sorry but in a senior moment his name sliped my mind,no doubt caused by you know who!!
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02-03-2013, 08:54 PM
Just remembering the tale when Tony was on lifegard at the Mount,he went out and saved this young women from drowning,on getting back on the beach when she came to ,she noticed his legs were missing and assuming a shark had got him she fainted
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Kiwiboss
04-13-2013, 09:12 AM
According to my "poor mans" TV guide the Denny Hulme Festival of Motor Racing is on TV3 Sport Sunday(tomorrow the 14th) from 4pm to 5pm, i have no idea what the format is but should be interesting, i'll be watching as i don't have "Rich Mans" sky TV so no Supertaxis for me :(
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Jac Mac
04-13-2013, 07:11 PM
You can watch the supertaxis on Prime [ as it was yesterday] from 3.00pm to 4.30pm & again from 5.30pm to 7.00pm, so just have to juggle the remote from 4.00pm til 4.30pm..... dont need sky..:):)
John McKechnie
04-14-2013, 04:10 AM
Dale- yes just saw you doing battle with Kevin, Angus and Woody on TV3.
AMCO72
04-14-2013, 04:27 AM
Yes, and all lovely clean passing you notice!!!!!!!Can be done, so long as everyone is looking in their mirrors.
Even the great Jody Schecter said.......'some of these drivers think their mirrors are for shaving'.........amen to that!!
Murray Maunder
04-14-2013, 09:16 PM
Yes, and all lovely clean passing you notice!!!!!!!Can be done, so long as everyone is looking in their mirrors.
Even the great Jody Schecter said.......'some of these drivers think their mirrors are for shaving'.........amen to that!!
Indeed Gerald. And where did that huge ding in the side of the Gimblett Camaro come from, was that another day? Or maybe better off not spoken of? A racing incident..... I thought of the 3 races shown in the meagre 23 minutes HMC was easily the best show. And as for Woody's slides. +5!
beowulf
04-29-2013, 06:52 AM
In the latest Classic and Sports Car mag, April issue, there is a write up and pictures from this meeting. Including a picture of Angus and Dale. Page 20. Also some eye watering cars for sale. Another Lotto ticket.
AMCO72
04-30-2013, 01:37 AM
Thanks for that Beowulf.......the advantages of having the local news agent who is also a motorsport enthusiast.
I like the description that accompanies the picture........quote.....'Angus Fogg was trying everything he knew to pull off an upset with his Cooper S. He even nudged his front wing during one audacious overtaking move'.......
'Nudged'......what a glorious word. According to the Concise Oxford....'to prod gently to attract attention; a light touch or push!!!!!!!
A bit different from Murray Maunders...quote.....'a huge ding in the side of the Gimlet Camaro'.
I'm sure Murray there was fault on both sides, certainly according to a number of amateur photographers who witnessed the 'nudge', and that the Jury is out on that one. The thing is that Mr Gimlet could have swept past the Cooper S on the straight with ease, so there was no need to get defensive in that corner.
As Howard says, he works his arse off getting ahead in the twisty bits, then come the straights its all over, with all that bellowing horse-power swallowing you up..........
.....Do horses 'bellow'......maybe it should be 'neighing'.!!!!!!!!!!!!
fullnoise68
04-30-2013, 05:42 AM
Gerald, his name is Kevin Gimblett, and the damage to his door required a new door skin, so hardly `just a dent'.
AMCO72
04-30-2013, 05:56 AM
My apology for the incorrect spelling. I have an idea that two drivers had 'had a go' at that door. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I cant find anywhere that I said it was 'just a dent' I was repeating what the caption to the picture said.
Kiwiboss
04-30-2013, 06:56 AM
Arrrr come on you guys!! get with the program!! Gimbletts door leap out and damaged the front of the Mini, same with John English in the Camaro, as his left rear also damaged the front of the Mini and Pete Stevensons RH of his Mustang got in the way and leap back to also damage the front of the Mini again, all over the same weekend!! Hmmm im thinking im gonna have to "ban" these 3 vehicles!! infact the next time Angus is in with HMC i may hold all the HMC cars back so no one else leaps in front again, still!! didn't stop the concrete barrier leaping out in front of the same Mini at the same event? thats it BAN all the HMC drivers and concrete barriers!!!
Over and OUT
Dale M
AMCO72
04-30-2013, 07:45 AM
Yeh Dale.......different driver in the concrete episode......Must be the Mini.......ban the bloody Mini!!!!!!! LoL
Bring on the CHEVY MONZA.........yee ha
Definitely.......OVER & OUT !!!!!!![no LoL]
John McKechnie
04-30-2013, 08:04 AM
Can we ban the concrete barriers at Pukekohe so the track can drain better?
Kiwiboss
04-30-2013, 09:09 AM
Bring on the CHEVY MONZA.........yee ha
Shit stirrer(with LOL's).
Dale M
Grant Ellwood
05-01-2013, 08:25 PM
Just received the May/June copy of Vintage Motorsport here in USA, great article on the festival by David Hutson (your buddy, Bruce302?) with some really sharp photos.
Bruce302
05-02-2013, 01:21 AM
Grant, Indeed the writer/photographer is a friend, but he did a great job promoting the festival. Hopefully it will lead to a lot more interest from international entrants and visitors. Oh and he fell in love with the Ford Anglia while he was here.
I think they allowed 4 pages for the event instead of the usual 2.
Bruce.
Just received the May/June copy of Vintage Motorsport here in USA, great article on the festival by David Hutson (your buddy, Bruce302?) with some really sharp photos.
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05-04-2013, 12:27 AM
A few of my favorites from the festival.180531805418055180561805718058
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Steve Holmes
05-06-2013, 01:56 AM
Wow, those are stunning!
Grant Sprague
05-06-2013, 08:09 AM
Beautiful pics ......................................................Thank you for sharing these .....
Rod Grimwood
05-06-2013, 08:24 AM
Little bit of rallycross going on, thank god the concrete barriers are set back (where they should be), that was a great meeting.
The photos posted are awesome and thanks to all photographers for shareing.
225sloper
05-06-2013, 09:14 AM
Hey thanks guys i get a real kick out of taken photos of racecars. . . There some amazing photos on this site old and new taken by some amazing photographers.
Snoozin
05-06-2013, 09:28 AM
Love it, lots of right place at the right time!
Jizim
06-07-2013, 12:58 PM
I doubt if any were beter than {Toenails" lost his legs when 4yrs." watched him doing the side of Telstar at Manfield some years back ,wondered how he could do the windscreen.No problem just swung onto the bonet with ease,nothing he could not do, swim, fly a plane, race cars circuit and W.Springs,Travels the world helping folks to a beter life!!
Dead right Jimbo...Tony was a cool dude...Baypark..job done. I think one of his opening remarks at his motivation meetings were....how many of you guys out there can boast like me that my cock is long enough to touch the ground....funny guy...had no legs... Kind regards,
Tony Rutherford.
225sloper
06-08-2013, 09:38 AM
Dead right Jimbo...Tony was a cool dude...Baypark..job done. I think one of his opening remarks at his motivation meetings were....how many of you guys out there can boast like me that my cock is long enough to touch the ground....funny guy...had no legs... Kind regards,
Tony Rutherford.This is what Tony has been racing for a number of years now took this car to Bonneville to,has raced alot of different cars in alot of different classes.18726
Jizim
06-10-2013, 10:01 PM
This is what Tony has been racing for a number of years now took this car to Bonneville to,has raced alot of different cars in alot of different classes.18726
Nothing short of inspirational....this guy needs more recognition I think....Kind regards, Tony Rutherford.
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