Early O.S.C.A saloons, 1971-75 era, any pics out there b/w or colour?

[Gerard Richards]

I've always been a bit fascinated with the early era of O.S.C.A. Living in Auckland we didn't really see much of it but it all sounded pretty exciting down south. I remember on one occasion in early 1973, there was a sort of O.S.C.A. tour to the north, with several meetings. By the time they got to Pukekohe there had been several mechanical casualties, but I clearly remember Paul Kirk's yellow Viva with red wheels?, (really liked that car and it went well) and 3.5 Buick V8 motor, Blair Paton and Ron McPhail in there respective blue and black twin cam Escorts, plus Peter Kocis in his Torana, also possibly Grant Aitken in his 1450 Mini and Pat Pascoe's light weight ex McRae Twin Cam powered A40. I remember Kocis and Jim Richards in the Sidchrome Imp had a coming together shortly after the start with the Imp launched through the fence. I'd be really keen to sight some pictures of the early years of OSCA, in the pits on the track wherever, particularly from down south if anyone has any gems stowed away!

[bob homewood]

THere was a pretty good effort here in Auckland to get a North Island sub branch of OSCA going at that time ,it had a lot of support and looked like it would grow,the early rounds down at Levin especially attracted quite good entries.The first fuel crises helped bring about its demise .I amongst others were building new cars for it ,but the future uncertainty of the sport in general with the fuel crises ,suspension of race meetings etc caused a change in direction for a lot of people , myself included at this time .That original Auckland committee consisted of myself ,Greg Lancaster ,Rex Findlay and Adrian Walmsley ,it was a pity that circumstances changed ,There was also a Wellington sub branch

[faminz]

Was the Bellis Cortina an OSCA car?

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[Steve Holmes]

THere was a pretty good effort here in Auckland to get a North Island sub branch of OSCA going at that time ,it had a lot of support and looked like it would grow,the early rounds down at Levin especially attracted quite good entries.The first fuel crises helped bring about its demise .I amongst others were building new cars for it ,but the future uncertainty of the sport in general with the fuel crises ,suspension of race meetings etc caused a change in direction for a lot of people , myself included at this time .That original Auckland committee consisted of myself ,Greg Lancaster ,Rex Findlay and Adrian Walmsley ,it was a pity that circumstances changed ,There was also a Wellington sub branch

What sort of car were you building for it Bob?

[Steve Holmes]

Was the Bellis Cortina an OSCA car?

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Yep, certainly was, this is the car built for OSCA by Clyde Collins. Bellis had these box flares fitted, they were done by Robin Officer, taken from the molds he also used on the PDL Mustang I, Jenner Camaro, and Nazer Victor.

[Gerard Richards]

Great shot of the Bellis, Collins Cortina. I wonder if there are any similar colour pics of the likes of the Alex Dickie Victor Chev and Anglia Chev, Trevor Crowe Corolla Chev, Jim McComb Mk1 Cortina Mustang, Paul Kirk Viva Buick V8, the Sylvester Monaro's or the Kevin Haig Mustang etc. These and many others would be great to see

[kiwi285]

http://i53.tinypic.com/2h7j487.jpg

Here is a current photo of the Dickie Victor Chev. Tony Mann now has this car.
Cheers Mike

[bob homewood]

What sort of car were you building for it Bob?
I had the ex Metropolitan Cranes Escort that Dave Silcock and Peter Sundberg raced,which I was putting a modified F85 Olds engine in ,as I said it was unfortunate with the fuel crises drama coming along as it was the only time in my life I have ever had decent sponsorship,the fuel crises put paid to that and changed my plans

[Steve Holmes]

Wow, that was a cool little car Bob. Was that the twin-cam Escort Silcock replaced his Jaguar with? What a phenomenal car it would have been with the Olds motor. Do you know what became of it?

[bob homewood]

Yes that is right ,but it was the first Harrington Escort from memory before that ,when I parted with it it went to Grant Aitken,then onto Ross Cameron .It was my intention when I returned from Greymouth to build up that car ,but it didn't happen quite as quick as I planned as I got involved with Don McMillan helping build up the replacent Escort for Pete Sundberg,(the Spears one ) that is on the photo's here and I was involved with 3 or 4 people racing XU1's which were pretty popular at that time ,also I worked in a Tuning business and dynoed a lot of other cars that were racing at that time I can remember a lot of 15/16 hour days around that time.I guess I have a few more stories that will unfold in time

[Steve Holmes]

I hope you'll keep the stories coming Bob, they're always fascinating. Would love to see a thread on your Escort sports sedan.

Do you know where the Harrington/Silcock etc Escort is now? Actually, I should post this question on the Lost Race Cars thread, as there are a few others from that period I'm curious about too.

[bob homewood]

Talking of the Wellington Osca movement at that time ,perhaps David can fill us in on it,from memory was it I think Dick Cook who was biulding up a car around the McBegg sports car or something similar

[David McKinney]

Can't help much, I'm afraid Bob
I only remember Dick Cook in a BDA Escort at that time

[kiwi285]

http://i54.tinypic.com/fk7ejs.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/29xfccl.jpg

Here is a re-carnation of the Spinner Black Camaro

[bob homewood]

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[David McKinney]

With young Homewood in No77 :)

[bob homewood]

With young Homewood in No77 :)

Modestly yes ! Peter Kocis was just in front, gone out of the photo Dick Young is in the other Torana,I think that is the Triang following me Murray Soames is in the Lotus Cortina ,he went on to build a Escort with all the Lotus
Cortina components in it,this Escort was later brought by Bryce Platt ,developed more and became his Championship
winning car.Murray was another of the founding members of that early Auckland OSCA chapter,I think he also looked
hard at that time at the Olds F85 option

[Steve Holmes]

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Cool photo Bob. Was that a genuine XU-1? They were highly successful in Castrol GTX production racing.

[Steve Holmes]

Here are a couple Clyde Collins sent me, of his Mustang Cortina, now sadly long gone.

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Helping Dennis Marwood along with a little love tap.....

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[kiwi285]

That Cortina looks stunning and I remember it being around, but I don't think I ever saw it race. What colour was it painted - I seem to remember an orange. What happened to the car in the end ?

[Steve Holmes]

It was powder blue originally, then red/orange. As with all Clydes cars it was a great looking car. It later went to Bruce Bellis, who had a mega-motor built for it (will grab the details and post later) and ended up with Steve Vigurs who raced it for a while then used most of the mechanicals to build his Mitsubishi Celeste OSCA racer. The Cortina body went to the crusher. Don Elvy confirmed that for me.

[bob homewood]

Cool photo Bob. Was that a genuine XU-1? They were highly successful in Castrol GTX production racing.

Steve, That was my good friend Rod McCallums car ,it was the last of the 186 XU! cars ,but it could more than hold its own with the 202 cars,Rod raced it in the GTX seies that year and he was good enough to give it to me to drive in those first North Island OSCA races,we also drove it together in The Glenvale 100 ,that car now resides in Queensland,owned and raced by a ex-pat kiwi

[bob homewood]

Modestly yes ! Peter Kocis was just in front, gone out of the photo Dick Young is in the other Torana,I think that is the Triang following me Murray Soames is in the Lotus Cortina ,he went on to build a Escort with all the Lotus
Cortina components in it,this Escort was later brought by Bryce Platt ,developed more and became his Championship
winning car.Murray was another of the founding members of that early Auckland OSCA chapter,I think he also looked
hard at that time at the Olds F85 option545

[Jac Mac]

This car IIRC was built up using a new shell from Ford [ The one they sent out from UK for local assy jig checking]. Motor was stroked 325 ci Ford that originated from the Red Dawson Mustang, when Clyde changed to the chev engine this motor [ the ford] was then sold to Frank Ryan for the Capri that he had built up in Invercargill by Bryan Taylor. Guy in pic with Clyde is Marty Westrynk, car was sold to Bellis, John Beattie, then Steve Vigurs

[Steve Holmes]

Thats great info Jac.

[beowulf]

Hi all. The RW Fuller in the shot of the Levin program was responsible later for the V8 Escort driven by Roger Brader which features in another thread. Bob your memory is truly fantastic. Don't you love the prize money available,$10 for 4th place, probably a weeks wages then. Roger Brader has a car yard in Masterton, a nice guy. Wayne Fuller has retired to Omokoroa, he was a pharmicist in Masterton, hence the Mennen sponsorship on the V8 Escort. His cars were always beautifully presented.

[Steve Holmes]

Well spotted Beowulf. I spoke to both Wayne Fuller and Roger Brader about this car. Where is Omakoroa? Wayne didn't seem overly interested in talking about it for some reason, but Roger was and still is very enthusiastic about the car. The Escort listed in the entry list is the same one later fitted with the Chevy. I'm still trying to find out what happened to it.

[beowulf]

Hi Steve congratulations on the site. Omakoroa is in Tauranga, (probably my spelling differs from the correct version, and this is Maori language week!) If you talked to Wayne recently he may have been a little distracted as his rented out house in Masterton was in a fire recently.Wayne was a hard charger and very competitive, he and Roger had some big offs when they were running a rally Escort. Not the same car.

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Beowulf. I think it was probably early last year when I called him. I assumed he was still in the Wairarapa, but I think from memory I phoned his mobile number. I have sent Roger Brader a link to this site, would be great if he came on board.

[David McKinney]

OT - Wayne Fuller married my sister's best friend from school. I think she was Miss Wairarapa at the time (Mrs F, not my sister :))

He was also known as Fred

[Paul Kirk]

Hay Jac, you're wrong about Marty, he worked for two garages in Sydenham, (possibly more) after he and Clyde split, then he wowked for me, (about 21 years ago), then for a car sales in Yauldhurst road. I dunno wot's happened to him since then, though.
PK.

[Rod Grimwood]

Murray built and raced the one I have Bob, saw Murray about 20 years ago when I had the car stored in Whangaparoa and he recognized it and I lost contact with him after I shifted north. I may do some research with friends down there and try and make contact with him.
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[105angria]

Can someone please post more info re OSCA revival in November it could help with travel plans thanks

[thunder427]

It was powder blue originally, then red/orange. As with all Clydes cars it was a great looking car. It later went to Bruce Bellis, who had a mega-motor built for it (will grab the details and post later) and ended up with Steve Vigurs who raced it for a while then used most of the mechanicals to build his Mitsubishi Celeste OSCA racer. The Cortina body went to the crusher. Don Elvy confirmed that for me.

:pSticking my neck in the nose !!!!!!!!......True or False ????:p

Mr Bellis, Ex Police deptment, proprietor/owner, 'Coachman Steak House', owner of the Ex Clyde Collins OSCA/Cortina, part-time 'Boy' racer, ordered a ,as quoted;.."A mega Motor Built"...from a Sydney/Australia engine supplier/builder, in those times you could send a motor out of the country of New Zealand for 'reconditioning',re-importing the then 'rebuilt' item did not incur the heavy import duty//Tax a 'new' motor would,so our 'Boy racer,(a paid up member of the Christchurch 'Party People', Great Fridaynights!!) exported some old ,read 'Junk' engine with the required Number stamped in place..........well the rebuilt engine arrived and was installed, but the 'Australian' end didnt pick-up the 'dud at the Sydney Docks...some Custom's officer poking around ask's the question....'whats with this piece of Shite"????...checks the 'Con-note',does some research I'm guessing, only to find the same motor/number was exported back to NZ some week's/months before...........I seem to remember that the Cortina may have been impounded!!!!!!!......the engine removed ........Our Paul Kirk should remember in more detail, he was at some of those Friday Night parties......all the Car yards personal got together after the 9oclock close of bussiness,somebody always had a party going or out to the 'Russley' or the 'White Heron' for late drinks,the line up of American Muscle Cars was something else, could be up to twenty 'Left Hand Drive' cars linning the street............Just the Best Times....when 'SEX' was safe and 'Sky Diving' was DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!.......................regards thunder427/MJ:cool::cool::cool:

[bob homewood]

Myles, Yes you are pretty close to the money on that one,I thought about that one ,when the car first started getting discussed on here ,Peter Molloy ? was it might be able to perhaps enlarge on that one,yeh what was the name of that other watering hole where the Osca boys used to meet up and drink ,something or other Tavern

[Paul Kirk]

:pSticking my neck in the nose !!!!!!!!......True or False ????:p

Mr Bellis, Ex Police deptment, proprietor/owner, 'Coachman Steak House', owner of the Ex Clyde Collins OSCA/Cortina, part-time 'Boy' racer, ordered a ,as quoted;.."A mega Motor Built"...from a Sydney/Australia engine supplier/builder, in those times you could send a motor out of the country of New Zealand for 'reconditioning',re-importing the then 'rebuilt' item did not incur the heavy import duty//Tax a 'new' motor would,so our 'Boy racer,(a paid up member of the Christchurch 'Party People', Great Fridaynights!!) exported some old ,read 'Junk' engine with the required Number stamped in place..........well the rebuilt engine arrived and was installed, but the 'Australian' end didnt pick-up the 'dud at the Sydney Docks...some Custom's officer poking around ask's the question....'whats with this piece of Shite"????...checks the 'Con-note',does some research I'm guessing, only to find the same motor/number was exported back to NZ some week's/months before...........I seem to remember that the Cortina may have been impounded!!!!!!!......the engine removed ........Our Paul Kirk should remember in more detail, he was at some of those Friday Night parties......all the Car yards personal got together after the 9oclock close of bussiness,somebody always had a party going or out to the 'Russley' or the 'White Heron' for late drinks,the line up of American Muscle Cars was something else, could be up to twenty 'Left Hand Drive' cars linning the street............Just the Best Times....when 'SEX' was safe and 'Sky Diving' was DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!.......................regards thunder427/MJ:cool::cool::cool:

Yeah, Thunder, I did get seriously involved with the ex-Bellis Molloy Weslake 32 valve Chev engine, but it was after the customs went around to his workshop and siezed it. It went to auction as a Holden Racing engine, and was bought by Roy Granger who installed it in a speedway supersaloon and suffered much frustration and expense, then sold it to another speedway competitor on the west coast (probably Greymouth). He later reposesed it (because he didn't get paid for it), and asked me if I was interested in putting it together for him. Like a silly buggar (I liked a chalange) I said "Yes".
Well, there's a long, and some may say, interesting story to be told and if anybody's interested I'll put pen to paper (so to speak), and tell that story another day!
PK.

[nzboss]

Hey Paul it would be neat to hear more of the Weslake Chevy.
I remember it being for sale...the engine...years ago.
From memory it had been in a jet boat?
It is still in NZ somewhere, I remember reading about it in the NZHRM a year or 2 ago.
A grouse looking engine!!!

Rodney

[Paul Kirk]

:pSticking my neck in the nose !!!!!!!!......True or False ????:p

Mr Bellis, Ex Police deptment, proprietor/owner, 'Coachman Steak House', owner of the Ex Clyde Collins OSCA/Cortina, part-time 'Boy' racer, ordered a ,as quoted;.."A mega Motor Built"...from a Sydney/Australia engine supplier/builder, in those times you could send a motor out of the country of New Zealand for 'reconditioning',re-importing the then 'rebuilt' item did not incur the heavy import duty//Tax a 'new' motor would,so our 'Boy racer,(a paid up member of the Christchurch 'Party People', Great Fridaynights!!) exported some old ,read 'Junk' engine with the required Number stamped in place..........well the rebuilt engine arrived and was installed, but the 'Australian' end didnt pick-up the 'dud at the Sydney Docks...some Custom's officer poking around ask's the question....'whats with this piece of Shite"????...checks the 'Con-note',does some research I'm guessing, only to find the same motor/number was exported back to NZ some week's/months before...........I seem to remember that the Cortina may have been impounded!!!!!!!......the engine removed ........Our Paul Kirk should remember in more detail, he was at some of those Friday Night parties......all the Car yards personal got together after the 9oclock close of bussiness,somebody always had a party going or out to the 'Russley' or the 'White Heron' for late drinks,the line up of American Muscle Cars was something else, could be up to twenty 'Left Hand Drive' cars linning the street............Just the Best Times....when 'SEX' was safe and 'Sky Diving' was DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!.......................regards thunder427/MJ:cool::cool::cool:

Yeah, Thunder, I did get seriously involved with the ex-Bellis Molloy Weslake 32 valve Chev engine, but it was after the customs went around to his workshop and siezed it. It went to auction as a Holden Racing engine, and was bought by Roy Granger who installed it in a speedway supersaloon and suffered much frustration and expense, then sold it to another speedway competitor on the west coast (probably Greymouth). He later reposesed it (because he didn't get paid for it), and asked me if I was interested in putting it together for him. Like a silly buggar (I liked a chalange) I said "Yes".
Well, there's a long, and some may say, interesting story to be told and if anybody's interested I'll put pen to paper (so to speak), and tell that story another day!
PK.

[Paul Kirk]

Hey Paul it would be neat to hear more of the Weslake Chevy.
I remember it being for sale...the engine...years ago.
From memory it had been in a jet boat?
It is still in NZ somewhere, I remember reading about it in the NZHRM a year or 2 ago.
A grouse looking engine!!!

Rodney

Yeah Boss, after Roy finished here and went to Oz one of the jetsprint guys bought it and stuck it in a short hull, but he barely used it due to work commitments, another jetsprinter bought it for the same purpose but they couldn't use the torque of it (mainly because technology in the jet units was not advanced enough to efficiently harness 650 ft/lb, and hull design was not helping either), so it was purchased by somebody who I understand used it as a lounge ornament/furnature! That was probably 20 years ago so who knows what's happened to it now? I can follow that up, actually, as I do WoFs for his son.
PK.

[Paul Kirk]

:pSticking my neck in the nose !!!!!!!!......True or False ????:p

Mr Bellis, Ex Police deptment, proprietor/owner, 'Coachman Steak House', owner of the Ex Clyde Collins OSCA/Cortina, part-time 'Boy' racer, ordered a ,as quoted;.."A mega Motor Built"...from a Sydney/Australia engine supplier/builder, in those times you could send a motor out of the country of New Zealand for 'reconditioning',re-importing the then 'rebuilt' item did not incur the heavy import duty//Tax a 'new' motor would,so our 'Boy racer,(a paid up member of the Christchurch 'Party People', Great Fridaynights!!) exported some old ,read 'Junk' engine with the required Number stamped in place..........well the rebuilt engine arrived and was installed, but the 'Australian' end didnt pick-up the 'dud at the Sydney Docks...some Custom's officer poking around ask's the question....'whats with this piece of Shite"????...checks the 'Con-note',does some research I'm guessing, only to find the same motor/number was exported back to NZ some week's/months before...........I seem to remember that the Cortina may have been impounded!!!!!!!......the engine removed ........Our Paul Kirk should remember in more detail, he was at some of those Friday Night parties......all the Car yards personal got together after the 9oclock close of bussiness,somebody always had a party going or out to the 'Russley' or the 'White Heron' for late drinks,the line up of American Muscle Cars was something else, could be up to twenty 'Left Hand Drive' cars linning the street............Just the Best Times....when 'SEX' was safe and 'Sky Diving' was DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!!!.......................regards thunder427/MJ:cool::cool::cool:

Yeah, Thunder, I did get seriously involved with the ex-Bellis Molloy Weslake 32 valve Chev engine, but it was after the customs went around to his workshop and siezed it. It went to auction as a Holden Racing engine, and was bought by Roy Granger who installed it in a speedway supersaloon and suffered much frustration and expense, then sold it to another speedway competitor on the west coast (probably Greymouth). He later reposesed it (because he didn't get paid for it), and asked me if I was interested in putting it together for him. Like a silly buggar (I liked a chalange) I said "Yes".
Well, there's a long, and some may say, interesting story to be told and if anybody's interested I'll put pen to paper (so to speak), and tell that story another day!
PK.

[Paul Kirk]

Hey Paul it would be neat to hear more of the Weslake Chevy.
I remember it being for sale...the engine...years ago.
From memory it had been in a jet boat?
It is still in NZ somewhere, I remember reading about it in the NZHRM a year or 2 ago.
A grouse looking engine!!!

Rodney

Some details re Weslake 4 valve Chev 350, ex Bellis-----
The short block was just the usual racing small block v8, Steel GM crank, Carillos, roller cam, roller chain cam drive, forged pistons etc but the pistons were flat tops, in fact slightly recessed, and dry sumped with Weaver 3 stage pump.
The heads were were designed to just bolt on with a minimum of modification and had beautifull porting, twin rocker shafts, 2 inlet and 2 exhaust valves per cylinder that were operated by forked cast steel rockers with an adjusting screw at the pushrod end. (Tappet adjustment was done by grinding the lash caps so you had equal clearence at both valves, then adjusting the final clearences with the screw). The valve stems were same diameter as BMC A series and quite/very long, the heads quite small and the valve lift was quite low. It also had individule intake runners with slide throttle plates and Scintiller Vertex magneto locked with no advance and Lucas timed mechanical fuel injection. (To get it to idle at acceptable rpm I fitted an electronic distributor with centrifugal advance so the timing at idle was retarded because the throttles leaked so much air it idled way too fast.
The weakness with the engine design was the angles of the pushrods especially the inlets. Even thought they were 3/8 diameter hardened chrome molly tube they still flexed excessively as evidenced by the contact markings, yet when turning the engine by hand there was plenty of clearence!
When first running it on the dyno I was impressed by the exhaust noise, it was beautiful music! And produced 605 bhp at 6000 rpm, with a flat torque curve from 2500rpm. The power fell off very quick over 6500 due to the flexing pushrods losing valve control. Then we encountered issues with inlet valve springs, (breaking), and the valve covers and valley filling up with oil due to excessive oiling to the valve gear and poor drainage, this caused oil leaks and loss of oil pressure due to low level in the dry sump tank an probably aireation. These problems explained why Bellis could only do a couple of laps at a time before blowing smoke and oil at the two meetings he raced it at (Puke and Bay Park) After modifying the oiling system and the inlet rocker geometry and springs/retainers it started to go pretty well.
Roy Grainger raced it quite successfully in his leaf sprung old technology super saloon speedway car with a Powerglyde auto with no torque converter/clutch, locked in 2nd gear, but cooling was a problem so I converted it to run on methanol, this kept it cooler and gave if more power as well. (Not that it needed more)
I spent many hours on that project and learned heaps, didn't charge enough, but I enjoyed it and have a soft spot for that engine.
PK.

[bob homewood]

Paul,that is one good summary of events there in your final sentence you say you had a soft spot for that engine ,I understand what you are saying and how you feel,there has been more that a couple of projects I have felt that way about even though they gave me plenty of grief along the way you become part of them I guess and look back on them with fond memories

[nzboss]

That's great information Paul.
And well written.
Thank you.

Rodney

[Steve Holmes]

Wow, Paul, thats a really good read! Thanks for posting.

[tonttu]

A few pictures I took at Ruapuna in November 1972 maybe with an instamatic or box Brownie!

I think this was an early outing for the Collins Cortina
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Again maybe the first or an early outing for the Sylvester Monaro. What happened to this car?
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Before the Starlet was the Corolla, again what happened to this Crowe car?
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McPhail and Hammond Escorts
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When at varsity a friend had one of these mildly worked over as a road car and I always wanted one (still do actually)
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[tonttu]

OSCA wasn't all about the big capacity cars, a couple more from Ruapuna Nov 1972. The driver's names escape me.
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[Steve Holmes]

Hey these are great! I've also wondered what happened to the Sylvester Monaro. It didn't race for long did it. Then is vanished. Looks like there was a bit of carnage at that event. Both the Monaro and Collins Cortina have damage. The Crowe Chevy Corolla ended up in Palmerston North, owned by Mike Moore (I think). My understanding is that it was eventually scrapped.

[woody]

777B is Barry Vuyk.

[bigbanger]

777B is Barry Vuyk.

That XU1 powered 100E Prefect was quite a car. I'm not sure what happened to it when Barry moved onto the Stilletto-Ford.

[Jac Mac]

It was bought by Don Peddie I believe, I remember him running it in OSCA a couple of times...then it probably went to the Peddie farm to retire...:) quite a few toys ended up there .....

The A30, IIRC there was one Ford powered & one with Triumph 2000 power anyone know more?

The Torana/XU-1 behind the Hammond x Crosbie/Simpson? Escort could be Peter 'bloody' Kocis (spl?)

All this stuff is not good for me.. If you wanted a wide rim..you made it... roll cage..make it...flare a wheel arch...just cut the inner out,weld it on the outside...fill in the gaps....Hell OSCA even paid prize money per event & then a bonus at season end on points earned during the season... Now what happens, pay a big entry fee, sign your life away in case you hurt someone, pay a fine if some turkey sitting 'on high' deems you were not far enough forward to actually pass...throw away perfectly good crash hats & belts every couple of years...dont even think about making your own wheels or roll cage, just be a good boy now and even though you can see the gaps in the welds of your MSNZ certified cage made by an 'expert', that little scrap of paper & the photos will stop it falling around your ears..use this fuel-yep we know its quality drops off after a couple of weeks, wont matter if your pistons melt, BTW, get the noise down a bit will you... Oh, and the prize money etc...we got over that..the new unwritten rule is that entertainers pay to do so in the name of progress...

[AMCO72]

Jac Mac.......you are a bitter and twisted old man!!!!!! Unfortunately, you are dead right.

[Jac Mac]

JUST RIGHT, Gerald....not quite dead ...yet!!!:)...... isnt there an old quote?.... it takes one to recognise one....

PS, that is why I get much pleasure from sneaking as many old school ideas into Jack Ondracks TVR as I can...:):)

[AMCO72]

No.....'it takes one to KNOW one'.......yep, thats me!!!!!!!

[Rod Grimwood]

Jac Mac, So right. The belts has me buggered. Car may be used 3 to 4 times and sits in workshop with cover but no, those belts are 2 years old now so you can not use them. (this is with classic rally car) no doubt by sound of it same with curcuit. i am putting my curcuit car back together so look forward to "you can not have that, that is not acceptable, you will have to change your roll cage".
Any way looking forward to this week end at Ruapuna, will be good.

[rogered]

AMEN to all that jac mac

on the subject of belts.
Now my thought process is gone this way which is no good at all
Do i buy a set of quallity belts, say willans or similar, knowing they will end up in the bin?
Tempting just to buy some cheap CHINA ones with the correct tap

takes me back to a fine i got a few years ago.
Turned up with the manz number on the cage, but no paper work.

"where is the paper work?"
"shit sorry left at home, but manz has a copy. anyway has a number here, see"
" Did you just stamp that on yourself"
"Sorry, parden me"
Heres the fine, complain to manz!!!!!!
Jesus Thanks!!!!!!!!

And your so right, paid the entry fee, fuel, tyres etc etc so the paying public can have some entitainment
I do scratch my head at times.

Apologies for the moan, it wont happen again

[Jac Mac]

Have a good time @ Ruapuna guys, unfortunately [ or perhaps some might see it as fortunate :) ] I wont be there, have been talking to Anthony Prendergast though about the old MKII, they hope to have it down at Teretonga in December for OSCA round so I might get a look see then...

Rodgered... it would seem to me that you should start importing 'parallel' Willans labels & sewing them into the cheapo chinese belts, might help pay for your race car:).

[kiwi285]

Some great photos there just to remind us of what the racing used to be like. I can see why we miss it so much.

[tonttu]

And a few more from Ruapuna March 1975. Sorry about the quality but I was developing and printing my own photos back then

The Bates V8 Torana
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Dymond V8 Capri
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Vivas V8 and V6 - Brown and Kirk and if I remember correctly the Kirk Viva was always the quicker
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Diversity in Murdoch's Datsun 1300, the Ryan TC, Grant 2L Escort and the Prattley "S". This is what I used to love about that time - the variety of cars and engines
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and Bell's "S" following McPhail's Escort (which I never thought went as well as his old Farina)
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[kiwi285]

Weren't they great cars and the variety of makes run in those days. Photographer looks like he is in a hurry to get out of the way. Maybe he could see something that we can't.

[Steve Holmes]

These are great! What happened to all these cars? I understand the Dymand Capri was scrapped? Does the Bates Torana still exist? How about the Vivas?

[Jac Mac]

Im just worried that it might have been me:).. IIRC there were a couple of pics in Autonews about that time, one was of Ron McPhail in the escort as pictured, the other was of my Ford powered Imp.... the intent of the photo comparision at the time was to show different camber angles etc... needless to say, the Imp with its swing arm front & trailing arm rear did not have two wheels pointing in the same direction..
Weren't they great cars and the variety of makes run in those days. Photographer looks like he is in a hurry to get out of the way. Maybe he could see something that we can't.

[ian]

Hi guys. First post for me. Re the Weslake chev engine. What Paul did with this engine was truly amazing. I was Roy Grangers crew during this time. Ihave photos with roker covers off that i will post Cheers IAN.
Paul,that is one good summary of events there in your final sentence you say you had a soft spot for that engine ,I understand what you are saying and how you feel,there has been more that a couple of projects I have felt that way about even though they gave me plenty of grief along the way you become part of them I guess and look back on them with fond memories

[Steve Holmes]

Welcome to the site Ian, I look forward to seeing those photos.

[ian]

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[Steve Holmes]

Wow, Ian, thanks so much for posting these. What a stunning piece of kit! Is that the engine bay of the Cortina its fitted into?

[ian]

Wow, Ian, thanks so much for posting these. What a stunning piece of kit! Is that the engine bay of the Cortina its fitted into?

No sorry Steve the Cortina ute was 2.5L v6 powered. The Weslake headed Chev was used in the Roy Granger speedway Monza as discussed by Paul Kirk. Paul claimed to have a soft spot for this motor which was a bit of an understatment. To stand in PK's dyno room and put my hand on this engine while it is under full load at 6500 rpm was a feeling I will never forget.

[105angria]

Is this the Roy Granger that had a very nice Commer Cob ,orange with ,Brabham mags full house 1725,used to cruise around the square on a Sat night, legend

[Steve Holmes]

No sorry Steve the Cortina ute was 2.5L v6 powered. The Weslake headed Chev was used in the Roy Granger speedway Monza as discussed by Paul Kirk. Paul claimed to have a soft spot for this motor which was a bit of an understatment. To stand in PK's dyno room and put my hand on this engine while it is under full load at 6500 rpm was a feeling I will never forget.

Thanks Ian. I thought this was the motor that was also used in the Bellis Cortina? Thats the Cortina I was referring to when I asked what engine bay that was. Or am I talking about a completely different engine?

[Paul Kirk]

I've always been a bit fascinated with the early era of O.S.C.A. Living in Auckland we didn't really see much of it but it all sounded pretty exciting down south. I remember on one occasion in early 1973, there was a sort of O.S.C.A. tour to the north, with several meetings. By the time they got to Pukekohe there had been several mechanical casualties, but I clearly remember Paul Kirk's yellow Viva with red wheels?, (really liked that car and it went well) and 3.5 Buick V8 motor, Blair Paton and Ron McPhail in there respective blue and black twin cam Escorts, plus Peter Kocis in his Torana, also possibly Grant Aitken in his 1450 Mini and Pat Pascoe's light weight ex McRae Twin Cam powered A40. I remember Kocis and Jim Richards in the Sidchrome Imp had a coming together shortly after the start with the Imp launched through the fence. I'd be really keen to sight some pictures of the early years of OSCA, in the pits on the track wherever, particularly from down south if anyone has any gems stowed away!

Giday Gearald,
I remember that Puke meeting that some of us OSCA guys went to!
Thanks for your kind words re the Viva Buick, actually it didnt suit that track for 2 reasons, (probably many more if I really thought about it), and they were (1) it was under geared so I had to throttle off down the straights, (I'd flogged the diff out of my road going XU1, 3.08:1, but it needed to be higher), (2) also around the sweeper after the start/finish line it felt extremely unstable, (this was unusual as the car was normally good in fast corners), this was due, as I discovered later, to the rear axles flexing! I know this seems strange but I had been having trouble twisting axles at the splines (they were Hillman Minx axles) so I'd waisted them down to just under the root diametre of the splines so the loads would be absorbed by the torsional flex/twist thereby reducing the concentration of the load on the spline. What I didn't think about was that the axles were also subject to bending strain when cornering, so I suspect the outside rear wheel was taking on positive camber or whatever else it wanted to do when subjected to high cornering loads!
And there was another issue---I remember the last race was a handicap event so I took off determined to make as much ground as possible, anyway down the back straight as the race wore on, I caught up to a Mini just before the CHICANE, yeah thats right, they put some Euclid tyres halfway down the straight in the form of an "S" bend! anyway I had to back right off and let the Mini go through first, by this time all the big V8s had cought up (and passed) so I just cruised to the end.
But I did enjoy going up North, and I actually won the North Island OSCA Championship outright, (the Viva was "B" class), but that was only due to the fact that I went North more often than the others from down here!
But they were GOOD days in those days, things have changed a bit and I haven't made up my mind whether it's for better of for worse!
PK.

[ian]

Hi 105 angria. Probly berore I khew him but sounds right. Always was and still is a petrolhead. Living in Brisbane. His son races speedway salons very succesfully.
Sorry Steve for confusion. Yes definatly same engine. Photo is in Monza speedway salon re Paul Kirks earlier post.
Paul your Viva went the way of so many older cars. I worked at Williams Auto Wreckers in Kaipoi and remember the day it went through the crusher.
Is this the Roy Granger that had a very nice Commer Cob ,orange with ,Brabham mags full house 1725,used to cruise around the square on a Sat night, legend

[Paul Kirk]

It was bought by Don Peddie I believe, I remember him running it in OSCA a couple of times...then it probably went to the Peddie farm to retire...:) quite a few toys ended up there .....

The A30, IIRC there was one Ford powered & one with Truimph 2000 power anyone know more?

The Torana/XU-1 behind the Hammond x Crosbie/Simpson? Escort could be Peter 'bloody' Kocis (spl?)

All this stuff is not good for me.. If you wanted a wide rim..you made it... roll cage..make it...flare a wheel arch...just cut the inner out,weld it on the outside...fill in the gaps....Hell OSCA even paid prize money per event & then a bonus at season end on points earned during the season... Now what happens, pay a big entry fee, sign your life away in case you hurt someone, pay a fine if some turkey sitting 'on high' deems you were not far enough forward to actually pass...throw away perfectly good crash hats & belts every couple of years...dont even think about making your own wheels or roll cage, just be a good boy now and even though you can see the gaps in the welds of your MSNZ certified cage made by an 'expert', that little scrap of paper & the photos will stop it falling around your ears..use this fuel-yep we know its quality drops off after a couple of weeks, wont matter if your pistons melt, BTW, get the noise down a bit will you... Oh, and the prize money etc...we got over that..the new unwritten rule is that entertainers pay to do so in the name of progress...

Hay Jac, the 2 A30s you refer to could well be the Kerry Rout Triumph 2000 one and the Jeff Whealan Ford 1340 examples. As usual there are storys attatched to most of the old cars but briefly re Kerry's car--it was built by Colin Berryman, (I'm sure his name will be famillia to many here, sadly not with us any more), and used 3 of those little 35mm Webers and had a funny rear suspension linkage that promoted roll-steer.
I was testing it at Ruapuna one day and to my surprise when braking for the hairpin it sort-of swayed one way and my automatic reaction was to aply steering input to counteract it, then it swayed the other way, and so on and so on! Quite un-nerving! When discussing it with Kerry he said you just said hold the steering wheel straight and it might sway a bit but it always went straight. Unfortunately some idiot from Wellington in a MIni drove into the side of Kerry at Rothmans corner and the poor old A30 ended up like a banana and that was the end of that! And re Jeff's 1340 A30, complete with A3 Cosworth cam and 28-36 DCD Weber, (actually it might have been a Weber off a Ford V6 were both butterflies open similtaniously), it didn't go too bad but one day at Timaru it went better than usual! Why? Well there had been a bit of a "do" Sat night and Jeff didn't make it to his bed so went straight to Levels and the effects of the lack of sleep/booze was noticed by some of the others at drivers' briefing but nothing was said and Jeff really threw the car around that day! The following Timaru meeting the guy (whose name I can't remember) that was conducting the briefing made it quite clear that sort of behaviour would NOT be tollerated in future!
Them were the days!!!!
PK.

[Paul Kirk]

Is this the Roy Granger that had a very nice Commer Cob ,orange with ,Brabham mags full house 1725,used to cruise around the square on a Sat night, legend

Yeah, I think it was the same guy.
PK

[Paul Kirk]

Hi 105 angria. Probly berore I khew him but sounds right. Always was and still is a petrolhead. Living in Brisbane. His son races speedway salons very succesfully.
Sorry Steve for confusion. Yes definatly same engine. Photo is in Monza speedway salon re Paul Kirks earlier post.
Paul your Viva went the way of so many older cars. I worked at Williams Auto Wreckers in Kaipoi and remember the day it went through the crusher.

Ian? That isn't "Cheddar" is it? I've got a feeling it might be. If you're in Ch Ch/Kaiapoi any time, my details are all in the phone book, it'd be good to catch up. And re the Viva, a guy from Ashburton tracked it down with the aim of rebuilding it, but arived at Williams just a couple of days after it was crushed! Buggar!
PK.

[Paul Kirk]

It was bought by Don Peddie I believe, I remember him running it in OSCA a couple of times...then it probably went to the Peddie farm to retire...:) quite a few toys ended up there .....

The A30, IIRC there was one Ford powered & one with Truimph 2000 power anyone know more?

The Torana/XU-1 behind the Hammond x Crosbie/Simpson? Escort could be Peter 'bloody' Kocis (spl?)

All this stuff is not good for me.. If you wanted a wide rim..you made it... roll cage..make it...flare a wheel arch...just cut the inner out,weld it on the outside...fill in the gaps....Hell OSCA even paid prize money per event & then a bonus at season end on points earned during the season... Now what happens, pay a big entry fee, sign your life away in case you hurt someone, pay a fine if some turkey sitting 'on high' deems you were not far enough forward to actually pass...throw away perfectly good crash hats & belts every couple of years...dont even think about making your own wheels or roll cage, just be a good boy now and even though you can see the gaps in the welds of your MSNZ certified cage made by an 'expert', that little scrap of paper & the photos will stop it falling around your ears..use this fuel-yep we know its quality drops off after a couple of weeks, wont matter if your pistons melt, BTW, get the noise down a bit will you... Oh, and the prize money etc...we got over that..the new unwritten rule is that entertainers pay to do so in the name of progress...

Hay Jac, the 2 A30s you refer to could well be the Kerry Rout Triumph 2000 one and the Jeff Whealan Ford 1340 examples. As usual there are storys attatched to most of the old cars but briefly re Kerry's car--it was built by Colin Berryman, (I'm sure his name will be famillia to many here, sadly not with us any more), and used 3 of those little 35mm Webers and had a funny rear suspension linkage that promoted roll-steer.
I was testing it at Ruapuna one day and to my surprise when braking for the hairpin it sort-of swayed one way and my automatic reaction was to aply steering input to counteract it, then it swayed the other way, and so on and so on! Quite un-nerving! When discussing it with Kerry he said you just said hold the steering wheel straight and it might sway a bit but it always went straight. Unfortunately some idiot from Wellington in a MIni drove into the side of Kerry at Rothmans corner and the poor old A30 ended up like a banana and that was the end of that! And re Jeff's 1340 A30, complete with A3 Cosworth cam and 28-36 DCD Weber, (actually it might have been a Weber off a Ford V6 were both butterflies open similtaniously), it didn't go too bad but one day at Timaru it went better than usual! Why? Well there had been a bit of a "do" Sat night and Jeff didn't make it to his bed so went straight to Levels and the effects of the lack of sleep/booze was noticed by some of the others at drivers' briefing but nothing was said and Jeff really threw the car around that day! The following Timaru meeting the guy (whose name I can't remember) that was conducting the briefing made it quite clear that sort of behaviour would NOT be tollerated in future!
Them were the days!!!!
PK.

[Paul Kirk]

Modestly yes ! Peter Kocis was just in front, gone out of the photo Dick Young is in the other Torana,I think that is the Triang following me Murray Soames is in the Lotus Cortina ,he went on to build a Escort with all the Lotus
Cortina components in it,this Escort was later brought by Bryce Platt ,developed more and became his Championship
winning car.Murray was another of the founding members of that early Auckland OSCA chapter,I think he also looked
hard at that time at the Olds F85 option

Hay Bob, if my memory serves me right Greg Lancaster and Rex Findlay were also active Auckland OSCA branch members.
PK.

[ian]

It surely is Paul. Live in Invercargill now. Will be up at Xmas for family and friends and will try to catch you then.

[bob homewood]

Hay Bob, if my memory serves me right Greg Lancaster and Rex Findlay were also active Auckland OSCA branch members.
PK.
Yes that is right ,Myself Greg,Rex,and Adrian Walmsley ? I think were the original comitte,we used to have the monthly club night over in some place in Panmure,Rex and I used to run the gauntlet before evey club night picking up the evenings refreshments from that dodgy pub in Mt Wellington,pity the fuel crisis thing came along because I reckon it would have worked up here

[Steve Holmes]

Warwick Clayton has sent me a small number of photos from Manfeild, and an OSCA invasion with several teams making their way up from the South Island. He didn't say what year this was, but I would guess it could be the 1973/74 season?

Anyway, here is, first up, our own Roaring Season member, Paul Kirk.

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Trevor Crowe in the Chevy powered Corolla.

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I think this is Robert Bartley in the V8 Cortina? Wasn't this a North Island car?

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Clyde Collins in his V8 Cortina

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[Steve Holmes]

And a couple more. Lawrence Bruce in the ex Kennett/Dunlop/Haig Shelby Mustang.

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Alec Dickie in the Chevy Victor.

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[markec]

When I get organized I will post something of the early OSCA things, I have scanned numerous photo's and articles for the 40th reunion, some of which could be of interest,maybe I should get PK's consent first.

[markec]

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[Greg Ghost]

The Imperial Hotel

[Greg Ghost]

Steve just some info on the Dymand Capri I was involved in the build of that car John purchased the bodyshell from Brabham Ford at Greenacre in Sydney off Austin Taurenac it was built to the Australian Sport Sedan regs ie motor almost mid engine a lot of the work was done at Idlewild performance Parramatta Road Homebush it basically ran just one meeting Sandown 1973 and John made the decision to take it home to NZ for the Wigram 1974 meeting unfortunetly he wasnt allowed to run in its current form so a mad rush was made at Automotive Maintenance workshop Ch CH to modify it didnt work out sheered the distributer drive in the paddock Sunday morning by the way it was fitted with a Boss 302 and was a genuine Cologne shell

[Steve Holmes]

Greg, thanks heaps for that info. Really good stuff! Why was the project eventually abandoned? Did Steve try to sell the car at some point? I'm sure I've seen an old advert somewhere of someone selling a genuine lhd Cologne bodyshell. I'll try and find it.

[Jac Mac]

IIRC the John Dymand Cologne Capri had a Boss 302 Block with windsor heads, Paul Kirk might remember for sure,

Yellow Cologne Capri Shell on T/Me @ moment, not sure if LH or RH drive..

[Steve Holmes]

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This is a great photo. What are the details on this car?

[markec]

You will have to ask Mr OSCA, Ron McPhail in person, the shell is on some pallet racking in a building in ChCh,rwmcphail@gmail.com, is Rons Email address.

[bob homewood]

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Not sure if this one belongs here or not ,but it would have been taken during my time in the South Island at Ruapuna so by my reckoning would have been just before the motor found a new home in the Escort

[Rod Grimwood]

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Not sure if this one belongs here or not ,but it would have been taken during my time in the South Island at Ruapuna so by my reckoning would have been just before the motor found a new home in the Escort

Look in background from left to right, VW or Minor minus rear wheels? PA, minis, Mk11, and a Camaro (looks like 67 RS) Camaro must have been new.

[bob homewood]

I reckon around 1970 .taken same day as the Dickie photo,I got a couple more somewhere I hope ! I have been trying to remember faces in those photos ,Myles might know

[Paul Kirk]

IIRC the John Dymand Cologne Capri had a Boss 302 Block with windsor heads, Paul Kirk might remember for sure,

Yellow Cologne Capri Shell on T/Me @ moment, not sure if LH or RH drive..

Har ha ha, Jac, the only thing I remember about that car was that it didn't go very well, AND it didn't stop very well! (I spotted John bearing down on me in the mirror at the hairpin at Ruapuna with no hope of stopping so I had to swerve out of his way) I never did find out whether it was brake fade or brain fade!
PK.

[seaqnmac27]

Before the Starlet was the Corolla, again what happened to this Crowe car?
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Steve, I have seen an image from a stoclk car forum, the shell was used to build a stock car I believe.

[928]

IIRC the John Dymand Cologne Capri had a Boss 302 Block with windsor heads, Paul Kirk might remember for sure,

Yellow Cologne Capri Shell on T/Me @ moment, not sure if LH or RH drive..
got a link by any chance?
thanks

[seaqnmac27]

John Dymand Capri Teretonga 1974

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[Jac Mac]

got a link by any chance?
thanks
Given that I made that post in 2011 I dont think so!:)

[928]

that explains why i could not find it then... waste of 2 hours, still i did see some junk for sale
many thanks for the reply

[camaroman slp]

Tony Boydon thanks for bringing the Fantastic old Camaro back to life. I wondered why Christcurch osca driver owner, Lawrence Bruces name is not sharing the fame on the door between John Osbourne and your name.That would be so cool if it was ?

[Kwaussie]

John Dymand Capri Teretonga 1974

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That so looks like the Capri that Baron Robertson had in Hastings around 1975/6 or so -

[Kwaussie]

My wife has just told me that the car in Hastings was blue over silver, a genuine Cologne LHD car and by what we can find out went to Australia with them not long after.

[Jac Mac]

My wife has just told me that the car in Hastings was blue over silver, a genuine Cologne LHD car and by what we can find out went to Australia with them not long after.
That would make sense, colour scheme was light met blue & silver, I never quite bought the scrapped and thrown away scenario, more likely a customs/ bond/ ownership story somewhere in the murk methinks..

[John McKechnie]

That would make sense, colour scheme was light met blue & silver, I never quite bought the scrapped and thrown away scenario, more likely a customs/ bond/ ownership story somewhere in the murk methinks..

Cant beat 20/20 hindsight vision. Found some pics of John racing it, so will check magazines for any reference on it. Hi Jack, hows things down there, you and AB ticking away OK down there?.
Update, -Motorman January 1974 page 26 there is a pic of John Dymond spinning the immaculate Cologne Capri at the Hairpin. Has number 75 on the side. No accompaning text .
Most important it is road registered with licence plate - GR 6453

[Jac Mac]

Hi John,
Have not been anywhere to see AB for some time, keeping a low profile and as far away from other peoples race cars as possible myself, Targa went past here on Friday last, saw a few of those while out walking the dog. Gossip in relation to Tullochs latest wealth devaluation Item is keeping the informants busy:). Silver Fern is due thru here later this month I think.... more noise-dust- and verbal pollution. Pity old number plates like that are no longer freely searchable, many were off wrecked cars or tractor 'E' rego to allow use on closed public roads.

[Oldfart]

Steve, I have seen an image from a stoclk car forum, the shell was used to build a stock car I believe.
I was heavily involved with that Crowe Corolla. It (the shell) was used by Dave Bray (Chassis Shop) to build a modified with a screamer of a Valiant based motor. Dave also built a lot of the Crowe Skoda chassis and a Pantera for Trevor. That was before he went to the US and spent a bit of time with some very notable stock car guys. On return he built the offset modified with a DX Corolla 'glass body that I made. We were given/lent a full set of panels by Toyota before the road car was even released.
Dave and Sharon's son Daniel is the Karter doing so well on the international scene (and hardly recognised for his successes)

[rf84]

Kwaussie-your wife is quite right. The blue/silver Capri in Hastings was a genuine Cologne Capri. It was imported into Australia by Sir Jack Brabham and subsequently purchased by Barry(ie) Lee, a Kiwi who had raced an A40 in South Island before moving to Oz. Baron Robertson bought the car in 1975 and (thankfully) replaced the auto transmission with a DIY 'box. The Baron sold it to Andrew Blackberry (one time NZ Mini 7 Champion and sports car racer and brother of Bryan).
I seem to remember Andrew telling me he sold it to someone in the BOP and that it was "written off" in a crash. Pity-it was a most attractive looking thing with huge flares and massive "Minilite" wheels.

[Kwaussie]

That is very interesting!
Was there two or possibly four Cologne cars, counting Paul Fahey's and Norris Miles's cars in New Zealand?

[seaqnmac27]

Was Miles' a Cologne? I had not realised that, so that is the one now, and for a while in Ian McAffer's hands?

[Jac Mac]

If its the same Barry Lee I am thinking of [ Auto Trans specialist-might have worked with Peter Leversedge ] then that's likely the car of John Dymand in pics shown on this thread-- Sooo Fahey-Dymand- Miles? cars, where do you get the 4th Cologne car?

[rf84]

Seems to be a little confusion creeping in here. The Barry Lee I mentioned raced an A40 in the South Island and then moved to Australia to live. He bought the Capri off Sir Jack and used it as a road car in/around Sydney. Baron Robertson bought it off Barry and imported it to NZ. He too only ever used it as a road car-to my knowledge he never used it in competition, not even as much as a local HB Car Club event.

[Jac Mac]

Got it sorted I think, #1 Barry Lee, auto trans guy- raced 38 ford coupe, 33 ford Coupe , ACEIII Zephyr special and a couple of escorts in OSCA Ch Ch man. #2 Barry Lee originally from Dunedin raced @ SI meets, shifted to OZ, friends of the Dymand boys raced in OZ [escort etc].... all info courtesy of TNF, Ron McPhail & Peter Leversedge.
More likely the latter one to have Capri connection unless there is #3?

[Steve Holmes]

John Dymand Capri Teretonga 1974

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I asked John Dymand about this car. Here is his reply:

This was a ckd car on 3 pallets that Jack Brabham brought back from Europe it came direct from Fords Cologne factory in bits I BOUGHT the whole thing and we fabricated allsorts of bits for it couldn't afford $30000 for the original V6 engine so we fitted a Boss 302 to it raced it a couple of times andi returned to NZ with the car and OSCA wouldn't let me race it the way it was so we had to move the engine forward 14 inches we never ever got the balance right after that . I sold the car to Clyde Collins when I needed cash for a new busnt Dsatsuniness (The Motormarket).my partner Lawrence Bruce and I bought a couple of Minis which we raced for 2 seasons Then I went Datsun for Shellsport and Osca until I moved to the USA I don't know what Clyde did with the Capri

[Rod Grimwood]

this could turn out to be an interesting story, when all the sleuths get involved.

Just to throw a curve ball, there was a white and blue one (maybe a built up one but bloody nice with all the gear) in Auckland (Wade Motors I think) He lived on North Shore up Wairau Rd. Ran it a few times at club circuit Puke.

[Jac Mac]

Post #84 page 5 this thread...:)

[Rascal]

I asked John Dymand about this car. Here is his reply:

This was a ckd car on 3 pallets that Jack Brabham brought back from Europe it came direct from Fords Cologne factory in bits I BOUGHT the whole thing and we fabricated allsorts of bits for it couldn't afford $30000 for the original V6 engine so we fitted a Boss 302 to it raced it a couple of times andi returned to NZ with the car and OSCA wouldn't let me race it the way it was so we had to move the engine forward 14 inches we never ever got the balance right after that . I sold the car to Clyde Collins when I needed cash for a new busnt Dsatsuniness (The Motormarket).my partner Lawrence Bruce and I bought a couple of Minis which we raced for 2 seasons Then I went Datsun for Shellsport and Osca until I moved to the USA I don't know what Clyde did with the Capri

Steve, I have a colour pic of the car at Ruapuna or levels, but cant seem to downsize it for TRS, so if you send me a PM , I can pass on the image as an attachment to a return email,
you maybe able to do something with it, cheers.

[TonyG]

Photo supplied by Rascal as mentioned in the last post. I will post the original and a slightly adjusted one so we can see just a little more detail without ruining this great photo.
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq204/TGPhotography/Scanned%20Images/PICT0136_zpsdee8beb7.jpg (http://s448.photobucket.com/user/TGPhotography/media/Scanned%20Images/PICT0136_zpsdee8beb7.jpg.html)

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq204/TGPhotography/Scanned%20Images/PICT0136-2_zpsf895bde0.jpg (http://s448.photobucket.com/user/TGPhotography/media/Scanned%20Images/PICT0136-2_zpsf895bde0.jpg.html)

[Rascal]

Great job Tony, many thanks.:cool:

[TonyG]

You are very welcome.