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McLaren M10B I believe - but I'm sure someone will tell me if I am wrong!
crunch
01-27-2015, 07:57 PM
McLaren M10B I believe - but I'm sure someone will tell me if I am wrong!
I wonder what significance the colour is
More from the Ganley Festival
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Oldfart
01-28-2015, 03:51 AM
Nice photos Ray, Grant will be pleased to see his car. He was saying that while he was quicker than at the McLaren meeting he felt very off the pace. Then again Steve Ross said much the same. Spent lots of money and still not able to keep up.
SPman
01-28-2015, 05:18 AM
Guess who is driving the Model A Roadster???? Very famous car! This is a car that we built at North Shore Automatics that equalled the Standing 1/4 mile record for NZ.....12 sec! This is Johnny Windelburn driving the the Colin Praast owned 427 Chev powered Model A Ford Roadster. I remember donning the grinder goggles and John took me for a blast down Porana Road and a million miles an hour.....was deadend in those days........an absolute weapon! Car ended up at Vazeys home with a tree growing right through it! They had to cut it up to remove it. Currently being restored by Peter Church at Bunce and Curtis North Shore.......regard, Tony Rutherford. It was yellow, wasn't it? I remembered it had a 7 litre donk in it - was bloody quick as well - lot's of wheelspin on the club circuit......
From the archives again...
David Piper's 250LM Ferrari at Mallory Park. I even have a 1/43 scale model of that car.
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The annual Racing Car Show at Olympia in January each year was one of my favourite events.
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Three wheels for a change...
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I was offered one of these when I was far too young to embark on a restoration! What many may not know is that the Raleigh 3 wheeler morphed into Reliant, when Raleigh decided to stick to bicycles. The car's designers bought the rights to the car and also the components that had already been manufactured. When they relocated from Nottingham to Tamworth, they had to come up with a name beginning with 'R' as many of the components had already been stamped with an 'R'! That is a bit of trivia for you...
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The UK's National Motor Museum has its own Top Gear display - including this. A museum well worth a visit. Monorail in the background.
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John McKechnie
02-12-2015, 09:21 PM
Space Shuttle Clarkson- love it. I will go through my pictures of the National Space Museum at Dneipropetrovsk and see if the Soviets ever did one with a ЗАПОРОЖЕЦ
Andrew Metford
02-13-2015, 10:21 AM
Ray, in post #507, is the Alfa GTV #154 Dennis Marwood? At Whenuapai Wings and Wheels?
Hamish's return to NZ and the earlier practice in Dad's car didn't quite go to plan... But he was able to carry on with the scratch race but took it a little easier.
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Metal fatigue? Certainly a stub axle failure that bounced the Sprint over the kerb and caused a ripple through the boot, totally smashing the battery.
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Paul Madeley's race did go to plan with a well deserved win in today's scratch race.
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Oldfart
02-21-2015, 06:42 PM
Amazing photo of the Dolly, great reaction time!
Thanks Rhys. There must be something about Triumphs, metal fatigue and me.
I was flagging when Martin Adams rolled Chris Watson's TR5 and landed right in front of us after a propshaft failure I believe.
In 2003, a TR6 rolled in front of me and I whacked the infamous Pukekohe mountain wall on the inside trying to avoid him, wrecking the tail and the bonnet and front suspension, when a front stub axle failed on the Triumph.
Now this...
Alan Hyndman
02-22-2015, 10:29 AM
Minor point - Dolly Sprints have a live axle rather the IRS (so no stub axle at the rear), but yes, Triumphs can suffer from stub axle breaks - both front and rear (and Spitfires, GT6s, TRs, 2500PIs have all had it happen over the years).
Poor Geoff - his major roll in the brown Dolomite at HD in 2010 is still fresh in my memory!
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Metal fatigue? Certainly a stub axle failure that bounced the Sprint over the kerb and caused a ripple through the boot, totally smashing the battery.
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Sorry yes. Half shaft not stub axle. Stands in corner with well used white conical hat with a big 'D" on it...
The damage to the Dolly is a bit more extensive than first thought and this may well turn out to have been its final appearance - not all of it due to the condition of the car.
John McKechnie
02-22-2015, 11:42 PM
Beautiful.
Pukekohe Saturday - ERC competitors.
These three have been racing these cars a LONG time...
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This car was joint winner of the series in my first year and is now on its third series owner.
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Wendy is now enjoying herself in two race series.
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With Roycroft approaching, a delve back into the past with a few more of Dad's photographs from pre-war Donington.
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Apologies if any have been uploaded before. Running your mouse over the images will give you the original file name and all of mine are dated, so 139_0706 would be 1939 July 6th. These have been scanned from prints rather than the original negatives, most of which are on glass plates.
Steve Holmes
03-07-2015, 10:29 PM
Wow! When did you take this photo Ray? Where is this car now?
I always loved David Pipers roof chopped 250GTO as well.
From the archives again...
David Piper's 250LM Ferrari at Mallory Park. I even have a 1/43 scale model of that car.
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Steve Holmes
03-07-2015, 10:33 PM
This is interesting. It appears to be Chaparral I? I'm pretty sure this car is now back in the US. Was it based in the UK when you took this photo Ray? Or was it just visiting for an event?
From the archives again...
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rogered
03-07-2015, 11:55 PM
i was at silverstone about 20 years ago, and david piper, and chris rea were running a 250lm (i assume this car). Chances are he may still own it
Wow! When did you take this photo Ray? Where is this car now?
1966 Steve - as per my post above, I name all pics by date taken as far as I can. Dating some of them is proving to be a major mission, but I keep chipping away. Often, correctly dating just one pic can confirm the dates of others based on location and even clues such as the state of the foliage in the background or the condition of the track. Programme collectors are often a useful source of info too but so far, some of the marque clubs have been less useful than you'd think.
Chaparral was 1988, when I made a fleeting visit to the UK. Sorry, I have no other details.
Steve Holmes
03-10-2015, 12:34 AM
Thanks Ray. Loving these pics!
Steve Holmes
03-10-2015, 12:48 AM
i was at silverstone about 20 years ago, and david piper, and chris rea were running a 250lm (i assume this car). Chances are he may still own it
Thanks Roger, great memory! You've triggered some recollections for me too. I also recall being at Silverstone in 1994 (Coys Historic Festival) and seeing David Piper and Chris Rea teaming up in a Piper Ferrari. I went and unearthed the programme and it has them entered in a 275LM, which I assume is the 250 fitted with a bigger motor? Also, from memory the car at Silverstone was fitted with 5 spoke magnesium wheels rather than the Borrani wires.
Incidentally, Piper had also entered a Ferrari 330 P2, 365 P1, Porsche 917 and Lola T70 MkIIIB in the same race. Nice!
And, noting Ray's thread regarding the recent passing of Jem Marsh, Jem and Chris Marsh were entered in the same race in a Marcos GT.
Jac Mac
03-10-2015, 02:03 AM
Useless info-The 250/275 etc in a Ferrari refers to the individual cylinder capacity in cc.... eg a twelve cylinder car with 250cc per cyl will be 3000cc all up.
Steve Holmes
03-10-2015, 02:08 AM
Useless info-The 250/275 etc in a Ferrari refers to the individual cylinder capacity in cc.... eg a twelve cylinder car with 250cc per cyl will be 3000cc all up.
Huh, OK, thanks Jac. Maybe it was a different car I saw. It was a long time ago.
rogered
03-10-2015, 08:01 AM
Huh, OK, thanks Jac. Maybe it was a different car I saw. It was a long time ago.
Just did a quick google, and found him running no less than 3 different 250lm chassis's in the 60s, as well as a few 250gtos, a P3 and most other significant models of the era. I recall him at another meeting in a 330p. So i assume he was just running a few of his old cars he must have tucked away.
Chris Staniland's Multi-Union. (The original photograph wasn't so good, so needed a fair bit of cleaning up, hence the delay.) I had to Google the correct spelling - i.e. one word or hyphenated. Although I know the car from these and other period pics, I didn't know that it was effectively a P3 Alfa Romeo. Needless to say, it has not survived in this form, but has been converted back to a P3 Alfa. There has been some debate about recreating it, using the left over bits.
Those of you who saw James May's TV Toy series and the Scalextric recreation of Brooklands, may just have glimpsed that some of the streets were named after Brooklands' drivers, one being Staniland.
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When you see pictures like this, you can understand why modern racing cars (almost identical anyway) with totally hidden drivers, look so bland.
The car is well known, but driving lights and a spot light? Maybe it was driven on the road to the track?
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Always a cigarette on the go...
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Helmet - check; roll over bar - check; seat belts - check; overalls - check; starting handle to stab the guys in front - check... Well, 1 out of 5 isn't too bad.
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Grant Ellwood
03-11-2015, 11:59 PM
Ray, post 528, middle pic, is that Prince Bira? Also the guy on the right looks a lot like Reg Parnell. Looking closely at the logo on his overalls though, could be Bira's White Mouse team logo so might be his mechanic. Or I could be completely wrong....
khyndart in CA
03-12-2015, 12:07 AM
I hear Prince Bira had plenty to smile about as he had a reputation as being an earlier version of James Hunt (off the track )!
Ray, post 528, middle pic, is that Prince Bira? Also the guy on the right looks a lot like Reg Parnell. Looking closely at the logo on his overalls though, could be Bira's White Mouse team logo so might be his mechanic. Or I could be completely wrong....
As stated earlier, if you run your mouse over the pic, it will give you the date and maybe another detail. Yes, Bira chatting to Raymond Mays and without researching, I have no idea who the White Mouse mechanics were.
Not 100% sure of the date for this one, (Dad hadn't dated this print) as Mays appears to be wearing the same tie as the other pic, so it could be a year out out. Could be 1938 or 1939.
I wasn't aware of Bira's reputation (even in NZ!) until I was either chatting to someone, or it was mentioned by another poster.
Oldfart
03-12-2015, 12:36 AM
I hear Prince Bira had plenty to smile about as he had a reputation as being an earlier version of James Hunt (off the track )!
Wasn't called "Drainpipe" for nothing :)
Some people really are blessed aren't they!
Grant Sprague
03-12-2015, 05:26 PM
Ha ha great humour lads love it.. check....hey what about those semi slick tyres they were on to it ........ Thank you for sharing these
Grant Ellwood
03-12-2015, 08:49 PM
[QUOTE=ERC;45846]As stated earlier, if you run your mouse over the pic, it will give you the date and maybe another detail. Yes, Bira chatting to Raymond Mays and without researching, I have no idea who the White Mouse mechanics were?
Apparently one of the White Mouse mechanics was Rat O'Toole from OZ.
Jac Mac
03-12-2015, 09:34 PM
Given the tone of some above posts with a name like that he would fit right in!!
[QUOTE=ERC;45846]As stated earlier, if you run your mouse over the pic, it will give you the date and maybe another detail. Yes, Bira chatting to Raymond Mays and without researching, I have no idea who the White Mouse mechanics were?
Apparently one of the White Mouse mechanics was Rat O'Toole from OZ.
LOL!
'Lofty' England and Stan Holgate were White House mechanics. Without reading "Bits and Pieces" or some such book, maybe others may know more?
Interesting that Bira trained as a sculptor and was commissioned to do fellow ERA driver Pat Fairfield's memorial.
khyndart in CA
03-14-2015, 02:58 AM
Prince Bira of Siam. Ardmore. 1955. ( 2nd NZ Grand Prix )
Waiting for his Maserati to be wheeled to the starting grid, before going on to win the race.
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(photo courtesy of the New Zealand Herald )
Roycroft meeting Hampton Downs, Saturday only.
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Two or three pics posted on the Roycroft Thread. No doubt Nigel will be posting there too!
No apologies as this is a mix of pics, but a trip to the speedway to support number 1 grandson who has given up motocross to be a sidecar swinger.
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Had to wait for ages to see him run - then here they are in fourth place on the first lap just as something broke and rendered them clutchless... We missed their first race (they finished second) as they brought forward the event start time due to the suspected weather deterioration. May have to go to Western Springs Saturday, as the sidecars have a race or two there.
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Back to Dad's pics - pre and postwar. Once again, scanned from prints rather than negatives or plates.
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All very well wearing a suit, collar and tie Freddie, but looks as though it needed a clean by the end of the day...
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Steve Holmes
03-16-2015, 09:50 PM
From the archives again...
The annual Racing Car Show at Olympia in January each year was one of my favourite events.
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This is Leo Kinnunen's mighty 917/10, which won the European Interseries. Although never gaining the status of the Can-Am, the Interseries still attracted some impressive machinery. Note also the Shadow MkIII Can-Am car in the background. Thanks for the image Ray.
Terry S
03-17-2015, 01:20 AM
Back to Dad's pics - pre and postwar. Once again, scanned from prints rather than negatives or plates.
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All very well wearing a suit, collar and tie Freddie, but looks as though it needed a clean by the end of the day...
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Any idea where the last two were taken? They look like Climax V8's.
Any idea where the last two were taken? They look like Climax V8's.
Silverstone International Trophy meeting May 5th 1963.
No shows were the Sirroccos and the BRM's didn't do too well. Hill and Ginther retired and Bandini in the 1962 Centro-Sud BRM failed to qualify. I was there, but no camera... Probably the last motorsport photographs dad took other than one Shelsey Hillclimb and a Curborough Sprint.
Back to Saturday's Roycroft...
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A couple of Kiwi connections... Some time driver and then car.
Mallory Park of course.
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Drenched at Goodwood... 2000
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My only visit to a south island track - February 2005. Got drenched...
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Denny Hulme Lola T70 Mk2 chassis no 71/31 owned by Sid Taylor?
Denny Hulme Lola T70 Mk2 chassis no 71/31 owned by Sid Taylor?
Yup. At the Goodwood Revival 2009, the restored car had Denis spelt "Dennis" so not sure if that was so in period. My pic isn't sharp enough to see properly!
I think this same Gethin McLaren is now in NZ too - also in Sid Taylor's colours of course.
would not show the T70 picture to 'elf & safty, they would have fit at the kids sitting on the bank with thier feet on the race track
Jac Mac
03-18-2015, 01:27 AM
would not show the T70 picture to 'elf & safty, they would have fit at the kids sitting on the bank with thier feet on the race track
Might be a victory or demo lap, looks like car has a passenger as well, or is the non- helmeted person driving?
Spgeti
03-18-2015, 02:11 AM
According to John Starkey "LOLA T70" book it was Sid Taylor at the wheel year 1966, Victory Lap. Denny that year had many victories in SL71/31 that year. The historic pictures show spelling as Dennis Hulme.
CUSTAXIE50
03-18-2015, 02:18 AM
No apologies as this is a mix of pics, but a trip to the speedway to support number 1 grandson who has given up motocross to be a sidecar swinger.
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Had to wait for ages to see him run - then here they are in fourth place on the first lap just as something broke and rendered them clutchless... We missed their first race (they finished second) as they brought forward the event start time due to the suspected weather deterioration. May have to go to Western Springs Saturday, as the sidecars have a race or two there.
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Not 1nz after what went down last weekend at Rosebank.
Not 1nz after what went down last weekend at Rosebank.
We didn't stay after Grandson's race so no idea what happened afterwards!
The Lola pic was the victory lap! Mind you, elf and safety probably would not approve of how close we were to the track in those days.
I do have a pic from the same day showing the Lola behind another Lola and in a spin at the same hairpin... Just checked my photo/programme list and yes, it was Sid driving, but thought the helmet looked like Hulme's, so might have to correct that one! Always appreciate corrections so thanks for that.
Spgeti
03-18-2015, 07:17 AM
Denny drove the race, but let Sid drive the victory lap. He did this quite a bit that season including one of Surtees driving the victory lap. Your Dad's photos are magic Ray.
Thanks Spgeti. I'm sure he'd be thrilled to bits knowing that others could share the images. He was a very modest man and after the war, worked for a large company who were schools, industrial and aerial photographers, as Works Manager, right up until his retirement. He was fantastic on the production side with extremely high standards and had a great loyal workforce. He would have been a real whizz with Photoshop!
There are a few more Donington ones I haven't yet scanned or posted, but some need a bit of work.
Excellent Nigel - and maybe we need the comment that all these pics were from just one race group!
* Note: Refers to Nigel's pics that have now been moved to the ERC Series thread.
It just shows you the advances in cameras and photography over the last 80 or so years, when you compare Nigel's fantastic shots with those taken in the late 1930's, often on an old plate camera, where you'd be lucky to be able to carry more than about 12 plates a day, without going back to the darkroom to reload!
If you'd told a prewar photographer, that one day, you'd have a camera producing great colour shots, with a zoom lens that focused automatically - and you'd be able to store thousands of images on something about the size of five postage stamps stuck together, you would have been classed as totally bonkers. If you'd also said that you'd be able to manipulate the images in a thousand different ways whilst sitting on a bus or train and send them across the world in seconds, or send colour movies with stereo sound to hundreds of people, they would probably have locked you up.
We may not care too much for the modern cars, but we sure do appreciate the technology!
In date order - possibly:
Earl Howe - ERA . Not the sharpest of pics and due for a tidy up.
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I have no idea who these two are or what date, but the Kevin Kline lookalike cracks me up!
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Bira chases Mays when there were trees all around the Donington track, not to mention the squared kerb. Pretty - but dangerous.
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Muller, Auto-Union. Brave men with over 500bhp on skinny tyres, no seat belts, helmet etc., and a narrow tree lined track. Image partially cleaned up as it wasn't the best.
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Spgeti
03-19-2015, 09:59 PM
The guy with the pipe looks like John Cooper.
AMCO72
03-19-2015, 11:00 PM
No No No........Sammy Davis......please........Bentley boy etc etc. Written a good book......My Lifetime in Motorsport......S C H Davis.....His final Autobiography.
Thanks AMCO. That is one third of the puzzle solved!
AMCO72
03-20-2015, 12:01 AM
Cant recognize the guy with Sammy, but may be Arthur Dobson, ERA driver.
Thanks AMCO. Just had both confirmed by the ERA Club UK.
...a few more
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Sacre bleu!
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Nice to get some feedback today from people who have enjoyed the older pics.
Today, trialling a new spot (for me) to get some balance and some right to left photographs. Race started dry, but then it got rather wet.
Great maiden win for Dave Mallin in the MGB V8, formerly raced in the series by Harley Norager. Yes, this is a genuine MG BV8, not a repowered 4 cylinder. First time out after an engine rebuild and he promoted himself straight out of the AES Series and into the faster Arrows group for tomorrow! Sadly, Adrian in a repowered MG BV8, went off the track during the first Arrows practice and clouted the wall at turn 1 pretty hard.
The Jaguar XJS is a 3.6, not a V12 and driven by former touring car driver, Win Jacob.
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Nigel Watts pics have been moved over to his own thread, which is a better platform.
Back to 1937 - Dad's of course...
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This may well be 1936 and I have no idea what make of car. However, the photograph brings back many memories, despite the fact it was taken 10 years before I was even born! (Note the cost per gallon of petrol...)
My dad used to help out at the garage on the pumps and it is where he first met my mum, when she needed the tyres pumping up on her pushbike. All together - "Aaah!" I think it is the proprietor (Jack Horde) holding the pump.
Our family home (that dad eventually bought/inherited), was literally 2 houses to the right of those in the background and the garage was therefore visible from our front gate.
It was later taken over by Roy Sharpe, who later built up a fleet of mainly very ancient buses for the school runs to the far side of town. Mum and her sister were part timers on those morning and afternoon school runs. Tough in winter as the pea souper fogs often meant walking in front of the bus trying to find the white lines on the road. More than once, we had to hop off our bus to lighten the weight, as it struggled up a particularly steep hill, when the driver's double declutch down into first gear was too slow!
The garage later became "Speeds", the local Volvo agents and now it is a block of apartments.
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1963 International Trophy again - not sure if I had already posted the Hill pic.
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Back to the Roycroft 2015. They had run out of programmes when I went for one, so if anyone has a spare, I'd be pleased to take it off their hands.
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Legends Meeting again 2015.
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Dad's again. Flitting between the ages, as the very modern ones are often on the lap top - which I use at night, before transferring them to the PC, whereas the scanner and the bulk of the pics are of course on the PC.
The stewards of today would have a fit pointing out the obvious hazards here... Starkey's bridge (in the background) was retained when Tom Wheatcroft rebuilt the track, but the track now runs to the right of it, rather than through it.
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British GP at Silverstone - 1948 - Villoresi - though I have had conflicting information about the identification... Number 18 was certainly logged as Villoresi - who won.
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Terry S
04-05-2015, 10:49 PM
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7 litre Skoda anyone? As mentioned before, the UK special saloons rules insisted on engine and gearbox in the original location and Skoda's proved an ideal base.
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I known nothing about these Skodas as they weren't sold in Australia.
Are you saying that the engine was in front of the gearbox at the rear of the car? If so they would be eligible for Aust. Sports Sedans regulations?
Oldfart
04-06-2015, 01:15 AM
Terry, I am guessing that if the Corvair was allowed as it originally had the motor out back like a VW then a Skoda with the same layout would also have been eligible, just guessing though.
Jac Mac
04-06-2015, 01:23 AM
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Our OSCA & initial Sport Sedan Rules were not so free, I tried to do the same with my Imp for OSCA which was a no no, believe Bill Leckies Imp did a couple of meetings with mid mounted setup before the rules police made him switch it around, he then confounded everyone by going just as fast with the big pendulum hanging out the rear!
Didn't know about Mick Hill's passing, when Googling for the Super Saloon rules. Hugely popular driver especially around Derbyshire and the East Midlands:
FORMER racing driver Mick Hill, who has died at the age of 70, completed one last lap of the Donington Park circuit where he won many races in the 1970s.
The hearse carrying his coffin made a lap of the track on the way to his funeral at Markeaton Crematorium yesterday.
Mr Hill, who died on November 19 (2014) after a long illness, was a stalwart of the national Super Saloons racing scene in the early 1970s, building and driving some memorable cars of the period.
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These included the J'Anglia, which was a Jaguar-engined Ford Anglia, a five-litre VW Beetle Super Saloon, under whose shaped skin was a Chevrolet, and the Ford Boss Capri V8.
He recorded a total of 96 overall race wins, securing seven championships along the way in a career that stretched more than 21 years.
A former telephone engineer from Long Eaton, Mr Hill was ranked first in the 1971 Autosport National Survey of Race Results with 33 overall wins, in a year that included winning the Triplex Saloon Car Championship
In 2009, Mr Hill was reunited with one of his old cars at a race meeting at Goodwood. He was in tears when he was reunited with the Chevrolet-powered Volkswagen Beetle he raced more than 30 years before.
The car was making its first public appearance following an 18-month rebuild. And an invitation to race at the prestigious three-day Festival of Speed, attended by the world's top drivers and cars, saw Mr Hill and the Beetle reunited.
Mr Hill, who had lived in Spondon and Swarkestone, also recorded 20 overall wins in 1972, which allowed him to become National Hepolite and Glacier Saloon Car Champion.
The following year he was crowned KMS Silverstone Driver of the Year, beating James Hunt and Jackie Stewart, and Esso Uniflo Special Saloon Car Champion with 18 overall wins.
His 10 overall wins in 1974 allowed him to win the Super Saloon Championship and the Forward Thrust Saloon Car Championship. Mr Hill was also a member of the British Racing Drivers Club from 2000.
Christopher Tate, Donington Park managing director, said: "The team was glad to be able to honour Mick today on his last lap of the Donington track.
"He had always been a strong competitor in every race he competed in and was a well-known figure locally and in the world of motor sport. We wish his family well and send our condolences."
Oldfart
04-06-2015, 04:25 AM
Jac, the rear wheel seems further back, but the windows look very much the same size as original, but the front wheel has been moved back some too. Where the trim strip is, there is over 100mm on a "standard" car, so perhaps the wheelbase isn't that much more? For what it's worth a Skoda Coupe has a 2400mm wheelbase.
Terry S
04-06-2015, 06:49 PM
28612Remember reading of these cars in old Cars and Car Conversions, Im sure the Skoda and VW of Mick Hill & others had the engine mid mounted with gearbox out the rear which of course is back to front from original installations. Both these pics suggest that the wheelbase was lengthened to match this configuration.
Our OSCA & initial Sport Sedan Rules were not so free, I tried to do the same with my Imp for OSCA which was a no no, believe Bill Leckies Imp did a couple of meetings with mid mounted setup before the rules police made him switch it around, he then confounded everyone by going just as fast with the big pendulum hanging out the rear!
So the road going Skoda had the engine out back behind the gearbox. Then for racing it was put in front of the gearbox.
So it would have been illegal when the regulations changed , just as the Gardner corsair and the Thomson VW.
Jac Mac
04-06-2015, 07:21 PM
So the road going Skoda had the engine out back behind the gearbox. Then for racing it was put in front of the gearbox.
So it would have been illegal when the regulations changed , just as the Gardner corsair and the Thomson VW.
Correct, what you really needed was a 4 seater GT40 or Chapparal:). Actually with hindsight the little Volvo, Pontiac Tempest, Porsche 924 etc with transaxle at rear, engine in front would have been ideal candidates for those series.
Grant Sprague
04-06-2015, 08:16 PM
These cars remind me of the Davrin [Davron]..... not sure the correct name , but when I was going to club meetings in UK these cars I had never seen b 4 but were very fast compared to what we use to see race in Kiwi land in the mid 70,s
Grant Ellwood
04-06-2015, 09:25 PM
Back in the '90s I had a rear engined Renault Alpine GTA, I was pleasantly shocked by how well it handled with the big iron V6 hanging out the back of the trans.
Oldfart
04-06-2015, 10:03 PM
Grant, the Douvrin V6 (used by Volvo, Renault, Peugeot and de Lorean) is an alloy block, but yes still hanging out the back
Grant Sprague
04-06-2015, 11:34 PM
Are that's what it was .and seemed quick in its day ...... Thanks Old Buddy
Grant Sprague
04-06-2015, 11:38 PM
Talking of the rear engine set up , I [long time ago] bought the prototype Saker tull... rear engine ford v6 had audi transaxle I managed to strip the cam wheel soon after I bought it off Bruce thought it might have had the alloy wheel but to my surprise not to be , the car is on Sprague family photos.....
Went on a 'lad's day out' today to the car museum at Hamilton. A 1950's cafe and an exceptionally well presented display of cars, motorbikes, lots of oil company memorabilia (including a massive number of tanker models) and other models.
The ground floor is mainly American cars and the mezzanine upstairs, mainly European.
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Not sure about the colours here, but I acquired a part dismantled Singer Bantam from VCC member Kevin Andrew some years ago, but sold it on to someone in Waiheke - untouched.
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The Auburn is a replica.
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Oversized carb here!
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I wonder how many knew there was another Lycoming Special? Not being a Kiwi, I didn't!
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Oldfart
04-07-2015, 07:04 PM
Ray, that's the Lycoming which was at Roycroft and I drove it both days, just as you have photographed it. (But with the bonnet on)
Thanks Rhys. I must have missed it at Roycroft - or not known what it was!
PS: Found a pic, so it was the latter...
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Probably not the best of pics, but may be of interest to some.
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Cooper Ford - not Climax
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2000 - old fashioned film.
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Goodwood 2009 - small compact digital camera, but shows the opportunities at Goodwood without a long lens or a Press pass. Friday is much less crowded than Saturday or Sunday. I think this last year, they had 184,000 spectators over the 3 days. Note the famous Elite DAD10.
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With and without scaffolding. I really must try and get back to Goodwood with a decent camera...
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nigel watts
04-08-2015, 08:25 PM
Ray, Goodwood seems to be a bit like Hampton Downs in that the spectators can get a good possie for photography without having to get permission for media access. I would love to attend the Goodwood meeting myself - maybe when I win Lotto!
Sell your pics Nigel and bank the money. Full sized images at $5 and you'll have the money in no time.
Rhys - check back to #589. Have added a pic.
Back to the Hamilton museum for a good reason and I hope that if anyone has a close link to the management, they can sort this out!
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Mclaren? Seabring? Earn't? Easy to fix and one or two other minor typo errors around, which was a shame as the rest of the display was most impressive.
Oldfart
04-09-2015, 07:42 AM
The owner and I discussed this very car when I was there to collect the RA Lycoming as I will now call it. He told me that he has asked the owner of the car to get the placard more correct, but hasn't got too far with that, and was aware that the semi correct information (which means somewhat incorrect too) may negatively impact with more knowledgeable visitors. The vehicle concerned is not on long term display.
Paul Wilkinson
04-09-2015, 09:33 AM
Sell your pics Nigel and bank the money. Full sized images at $5 and you'll have the money in no time.
Rhys - check back to #589. Have added a pic.
Back to the Hamilton museum for a good reason and I hope that if anyone has a close link to the management, they can sort this out!
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Mclaren? Seabring? Earn't? Easy to fix and one or two other minor typo errors around, which was a shame as the rest of the display was most impressive.
Surely this is referring to the Manta Moulds that McRae brought back from the States which then became the Mararn, with one body going to a Rhubarb? Trying to claim a bit more status than it deserves by the look of it. That said, nice car...
John McKechnie
04-10-2015, 09:14 PM
Does anyone remember an American TV Hardcastle and McCormick program from the early 80s ?
I remember they use one of these and it was called a Coyote?
"The car that McCormick drove, the Coyote X, was built from custom molds based on the McLaren M6GT.[1] The original Coyote X was molded, modified and assembled by Mike Fennel."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcastle_and_McCormick.
Paul Wilkinson
04-10-2015, 11:59 PM
Does anyone remember an American TV Hardcastle and McCormick program from the early 80s ?
I remember they use one of these and it was called a Coyote?
"The car that McCormick drove, the Coyote X, was built from custom molds based on the McLaren M6GT.[1] The original Coyote X was molded, modified and assembled by Mike Fennel."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcastle_and_McCormick.
Yep. It was definately a modified Manta Montage, although George Barris won't confirm/deny....
John B
04-11-2015, 03:10 AM
Back in the '90s I had a rear engined Renault Alpine GTA, I was pleasantly shocked by how well it handled with the big iron V6 hanging out the back of the trans.
Fantastic car! I bought my Renault Alpine GTA from Neil Tolich in the early 90's, and kept it for approx. 5 years. Wish I had never sold it.
2.8 litre PRV (Peugeot, Renault and Volvo) alloy V6 engine; 1150kg; fibreglass & plastic body; and a drag coefficient of only 0.28 made this a quick car. Mine was good for 250kph.
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Oldfart
04-11-2015, 05:03 AM
David Wenman (yellow Connaught) was rather pleased to see your photo of himself Ray!
Paul Wilkinson
04-11-2015, 08:28 AM
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That was the Delorean based car used in the third series as the older chap in the series refused to keep climbing in and out of the original Manta based car. It's pretty sad that I know this without assistance from Google....
David Wenman (yellow Connaught) was rather pleased to see your photo of himself Ray!
I'm sure you'll pass on these too!
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Hampton Downs ACC meeting April 12th.
Some were taken during practice.
Good to see Veen Smith's car back in action.
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JohnM575
04-13-2015, 10:04 AM
Hampton Downs ACC meeting April 12th.
Some were taken during practice.
Good to see Veen Smith's car back in action.
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Any shots of the #19 Falcon XE from Northern Muscle Cars by chance?
Looks as though you were lucky!
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Overall, a good day for the Jaguars. They all survived!
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A maiden win for Derek Moore in his ex-Andy Turpin XJS. Hard to believe this car has been with us for almost 20 years and was first raced as a bog standard car, complete with auto gearbox.
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Birthday boy Adam Jones Escort won the second handicap by a whisker from Ricky Cooper, with Derek Moore just 0.3 seconds behind. Everyone (combined, both groups) across the line within 17 seconds. A good end to the ERC season with the rain just holding off.
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From the 'probably still trying to date accurately' folder
Ex Mick Hill VW during a practice or test day at Donington.
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Same age as my car, but the 1970 4 seater Mantis, along with a hiccup sending a shipment of cars to the US, effectively knocked the company down for the first time, only to be resurrected about 10 years later.
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The Turpin XJS, October 1997 in its original form.
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Well, the last race meeting of the season in NZ was only a very brief call, but long enough to get a couple of pics.
Not normally my sort of car, but I can appreciate the stunning presentation.
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I have no idea what this is, so if anyone can identify it, I'd appreciate it.
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All tucked up for the winter.
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Just our awards dinner May 9th and Automania May 10th and that will be it from me for a while.
paul lancaster
05-07-2015, 06:06 PM
Hi there erc, number 77 is in fact a formula suzuki, hayabusa powered single seater, there was a series which ran a few years back.
Hi there erc, number 77 is in fact a formula suzuki, hayabusa powered single seater, there was a series which ran a few years back.
Thanks Paul. Yet another single seater category where most must be in sheds. Pity they don't all come out and support a proper Formula Libre series for cars under say 2,000cc.
A few pics from the FREE Automania show held at the North Shore Events Centre on Sunday. Good crowds but we missed the drift demo, which no doubt appealed to the majority. Pity about the horrendous and invasive noise from the person driving the sound desk outside which drove us away early. How come we have a 95Db limit at some race tracks, yet someone can crank up a sound system in excess of that limit in a light industrial setting alongside a golf course?
One for the ZED boys...
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JT in strange territory north of the bridge.
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Just about the only time anyone sees a single seater north of the Harbour Bridge. Pity the proposed tracks at Ruakaka or Whangarei amounted to nothing.
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The Formula Suzuki cars were developed by "Monster" Tajima is conjunction with Suzuki. They make good use of proprietary Suzuki parts and are unusual for motorcycle engined cars in the fact that the motor is mounted longitudinally and uses a diff out of a Vitara or similar. Most bike engined single seaters have a transverse engine.
I don't know if any races are scheduled for them currently-they were raced up to maybe as recently as last year.
I have only seen one in action-at a track day. It is a great pity they never really 'took off' as the one I witnessed was very impressive in terms of it's speed and sound. Strikes me as a great class to get aspiring young drivers into a fast and affordable "wings and slicks" formula and an ideal stepping stone to the Toyota Racing Series.
But, as has been pointed out on this Forum before, we simply have too many classes of racing in NZ with a population smaller than many overseas cities. Formula Suzuki and Formula Challenge (if it is still in existence) are a prime example of two classes that are very similar but competing against one another for races and competitors.
There are a number of F Suzuki cars for sale on Trademe at present.
Just a random few Old Brits.
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Are there any GTM's in NZ? Goodwood's Mini celebration, 2009
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I am away in a couple of days time but only have a couple of weeks in the UK July/August to try and add to my collection. I have pencilled in the Brookland's Museum and the British Motor Heritage museum at Gaydon. No guarantees of course, but both are on my bucket list.
We did do the Heritage museum when it was at Syon Park back in about 1987, so I am looking forwards to the modern centre at a location where my last visit was for a sprint meeting - and it poured with rain...
Michael Clark
05-15-2015, 11:49 PM
Do you know a Kiwi runs Brooklands? Mention the names of the drivers of the world's fastest Trident Palliser FF, and the world's fastest orange Gp 2 2002...
Ray I'm trying to guess the silver car in the second photo - 428 perhaps?
Spot on Michael. AC 428. Incidentally at one time as a minor part of my job, I was used as company chauffeur for the boss, who at that time had a new Aston Martin DBS Vantage (auto unfortunately). One trip to Heathrow (in the old Austin 1800 he loved riding in...), we picked up a couple of his friends and the wife had a maroon 428 with the registration SM7. I wonder what that duo would be worth now.
I'll mention your names at Brooklands if we make it...
I hope we do, as I want to try that Napier Railton experience in 4D!
Michael Clark
05-16-2015, 12:41 AM
When I went to Brooklands in 03, we were able to get onto what is left of the banking. You should make a b-line for that...
BTW, I'd be perfectly happy with an auto AM DBS V8
Have a good trip
Oldfart
05-16-2015, 01:16 AM
Do you know a Kiwi runs Brooklands? Mention the names of the drivers of the world's fastest Trident Palliser FF, and the world's fastest orange Gp 2 2002...
Ray I'm trying to guess the silver car in the second photo - 428 perhaps?
Michael, I will be at Brooklands 7th July (after Oulton Classics, and Shelsley VSCC) who is this guy?
Unfortunately Michael, not only was it the first automatic I'd ever driven, (and the first drive was in the 5pm rush hour in the middle of the city!), alas, it was the DBS 6, with the grille-less front. Bought new for 6,500GBP in 1973, sold at action (fuel crisis) for just 4,100 pounds with only 4,500 miles on the clock a year later. The depreciation for the year was more than my wages.
We don't arrive until July 12th Rhys, leave July 20th; back August 1st, away again August 8th.
Noo Noo
05-18-2015, 11:12 AM
Just a random few Old Brits.
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Are there any GTM's in NZ? Goodwood's Mini celebration, 2009
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I am away in a couple of days time but only have a couple of weeks in the UK July/August to try and add to my collection. I have pencilled in the Brookland's Museum and the British Motor Heritage museum at Gaydon. No guarantees of course, but both are on my bucket list.
We did do the Heritage museum when it was at Syon Park back in about 1987, so I am looking forwards to the modern centre at a location where my last visit was for a sprint meeting - and it poured with rain...
Visited both places in 2013 and was not disappointed.
My highlight at Brooklands was getting inside the Wellington bomber. There's a door at each end so you make your way through the fuselage and reflect on the bravery of the guys of Bomber Command who flew in those things. Well, that's what I did anyway.
Second place highlight was the gents toilets in the clubhouse building - very old-World stylish!
Of course the cars etc are pretty good too.
Plenty of interesting stuff at Gaydon. The official handbook I bought says they keep around 175 cars on display with more in storage.
In 2011 I went to the National Rail Museum at York and could hardly move for kids and their caregivers (it was school holiday time). The next day I visited the Wheatcroft Formula 1 collection at Donington Park. In the hour or so I wandered around there were only 3 other people there (I counted them). My wife and daughter waited for me in the cafetaria and were the only customers. I couldn't believe the contrast between the 2 places.
David Hunter
I have posted on a message-board somewhere that the Donington Collection appears to have flogged off a lot of exhibits or their owners have reclaimed them.
Since the proposed F1 hosting and the debacle that followed it, Kevin Wheatcroft has shifted his collection of WW2 military vehicles in.
As someone who visited the museum often since its opening and the builder of the Nottingham Sports Car Club's stand at the 1976 Racing car show held there, I have a strong affinity with the place. However, last two times time we visited, no one could be bothered to produce a current list of exhibits and numerous emails have gone unanswered. I decided not to go in, as I prefer to remember it as it was and I'm not sure that anything new of any interest has been added for years.
For those who have never been before, yes, well worth a visit, but I enjoyed the Sparkford (Haynes) museum last year far more than I expected. The Caister museum in Norfolk is also worthwhile - but you can't take photographs!
At that time (Feb 1976), Donington needed a club with a race licence so the NSCC worked in with Donington in the early stages, running the opening meeting May 1977, but as soon as the track was up and running, the Donington Racing Club was formed and once again, NSCC found themselves without regular meetings. Putting some finishing touches to the stand is Judy Bragg, the wife of the then secretary, Alan Bragg.
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Yes, even the great Ronnie Peterson had a go on our Scalextric version of Donington Park! As you can see from the blackboard, Super Saloon Driver Mick Hill was the fastest at that point! (Photo by Mike Causer)
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Note the MARCH hanging on the wall? That is the one now owned by Kiwi Roger Wills.
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It was never a busy museum, certainly during the week, but that meant it was always a pleasant place to spend a wet week day morning. If we had more time, maybe I should give it another go.
Noo Noo
05-19-2015, 09:22 AM
The April 2015 issue of MotorSport magazine has an interview with Kevin Wheatcroft. Although he loves the racing cars his real passion is WW2 military vehicles and they are providing the new exhibits in the museum. The interviewer notes that while they were there (in January) only 4 people were looking around so my experience obviously was not unusual.
Mr Wheatcroft is propping the place up financially and is optimistic for it's future but you have to wonder.
When I went I thought it very good but then learnt later on that it used to be better. But that's ok. When I saw the final version Vanwall and the P25 BRM I was overjoyed. I've always had a thing for post-war front engined single seaters and, for me, seeing them was worth the visit on it's own.
David Hunter
Hi David. I am sure that having once touted it as "the Worlds largest collection of single seater race cars" and being alongside a great race track, racing cars should be the focus. Kevin's sand pit, he makes the rules, but mixing military vehicles does not attract racing car fans.
Separate entry fee, separate collections maybe, or add another building and expand to include sports racing cars to 're-invent' the place, but if he is struggling to keep it afloat, maybe he has made a wrong decision. I used to go on every trip back to the UK but can't see the point now and I suspect other car fans may well feel the same.
It would be a sad day if Sir Bernard "Tom" Wheatcrofts incredible collection was broken up, given that they restored or had restored, so many truly iconic cars. Like you, I love the front engined single seaters, but sorry, a hall of Williams or McLarens from the modern era are too samey to be of real interest.
Michael Oliver
08-08-2015, 09:31 AM
On to 1966...
Same day - what was I saying about Lotus? Note the leading car? I think it was a Shapecraft (fastback) Elan
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I'm replying to a post from page 8, so a long way back!:
This is the unique Ian Walker Lotus Elan 26R coupe, reg no FRX 176C, which is still around today. Was raced a few years ago by Martin Stretton at the Goodwood Revival. But agree, it does look a bit like a Shapecraft Elan...
Michael
Not much new to add from a three month trip away. Must be the first time I have ever been away and not managed a single worthwhile car related visit. Illness thwarted the plans to visit the Gaydon Heritage Museum, so this a just a sample of the few pics I did manage to take. Later, I'll get back to the 1,000's of older pics that need scanning.
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Bruce302
08-21-2015, 09:57 PM
Not much new to add from a three month trip away. Must be the first time I have ever been away and not managed a single worthwhile car related visit. Illness thwarted the plans to visit the Gaydon Heritage Museum, so this a just a sample of the few pics I did manage to take. Later, I'll get back to the 1,000's of older pics that need scanning.
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That is a Tesla frame right ? I saw one a couple of days ago in their showroom.
Correct. They have a showroom on 3rd Street Santa Monica which I where I took that pic just two weeks ago. The showroom seemed to be attracting a fair bit of interest too, though I suspect that like me, most were just interested, rather than potential buyers.
looks like a truck chassis
Bruce302
08-22-2015, 08:32 PM
I was in the San Jose store, there are a lot of the cars on the roads, and they look good too.
Bruce.
Correct. They have a showroom on 3rd Street Santa Monica which I where I took that pic just two weeks ago. The showroom seemed to be attracting a fair bit of interest too, though I suspect that like me, most were just interested, rather than potential buyers.
Rod Grimwood
08-22-2015, 09:54 PM
Bruce302, hope you were not near the bank or the other 2 crooks that the police slowed down in San Jose last week.
The bank guy only attracted 600 odd shots, and the police were lucky to get him, but unfortunately there was a innocent lady in the area as well, and they also got her. Good marksmen. 600 shots really, but they brag on the news about it and apologize to the ladies family.
The other 2 crooks (that killed a guy in cold blood) attracted less (around 6 each) but good job there, bet the 3rd guy is fairly nervous waiting for his appointment.
We saw a few of the Tesla cars. Smart looking car.
John McKechnie
08-23-2015, 07:28 AM
Tesla s have 6931 batteries according to Clarkson tonight.
Not sure about the exact date for this group, but would welcome any clarification as always. The stencilled numbers might be a clue. It will possibly date other pics, but without checking the programme, could be as late as 1987 as TACCOC used those number about that time, certainly for Whenuapai? What I do know is that it is definitely after 17th January 1983!
Tony Roberts' car at a guess
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Has to be Murray Sinclair.
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Spgeti
09-07-2015, 05:14 AM
Yes it is Tony and behind that I think is Dr Bruce Stewart.
Steve Holmes
09-07-2015, 06:22 AM
Is that the old Coppertone Alfa Bruce? I thought Tony said he owned that at one stage.
Spgeti
09-07-2015, 06:31 AM
No, that's a later 1750 GTV. I think this car is now in the South Island( I do know who). The Coppertone Alfa if it is the one I think it was, 1966 GT Junior (stepfront) ex Tony, then Dennis Marwood, Arthur Vowels, Mark Pearson is now in the UK. Tony restored it back to original and he would need to confirm who he sold it to after his ownership.
Steve Holmes
09-07-2015, 06:37 AM
Thanks Bruce.
Not sure whether or not these should have gone on the Mini & Imp thread, but I opted for here, otherwise I'll totally lose track of what I have posted! To tell you the truth, I already have lost track...
One of my earliest motorsport photographs, but the camera that Dad bought me was a recalcitrant Ilford Advocate that often failed me. An original Broadspeed GT in action. Not sure of the year, but either 1966 or 1967 at a guess.
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So why would this be posted in a Mini/Imp thread?
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A Lotus Elan chassis and a front mounted Imp engine... The sort of ingenious car that NZ no longer sees, because 'it wasn't done in period'...
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Clan Crusader, probably the nicest looking of all Imp based cars
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Roger Dowding
09-08-2015, 10:26 PM
Ray, great shots wherever they are posted, That Elan / Imp '/ A30 look car is great. NZ moved from Allcomers " Run what you Brung " type formula, just had to be a saloon - very loose definition there too !!, to a UK/ Europe formula / appendix, at the end of the 1967 season .. some of the unusual cars went to the South Island for the OSCA class " Open Saloon Cars ". other went back to what they were like the Morrari, the Ferrari chassis was rebuilt as a Ferrari , unsure by whom, the Corvette Motor went and the Lowlight Morris Minor body, probably junked.
From Ice Breaker - Day 1.
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These drivers (or cars) are new to the ERC Series this season.
Sadly, Mikes Mini put a leg out of bed in practice. Hopefully he may find a good home for the 1300cc Mini Engine I have stashed in the garage...
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John Nuthall, also with a new steed, going well - even though he claims there was a misfire.
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Bert Quin's 15" wheel's hadn't arrived in time for the Perana but I'm not sure we can blame the 17" tyres for this cornering approach.
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Rex Bentham getting to grips with the ex-Mike Westall, Mike Uhlenberg (and others no doubt) Jaguar Mk 2, having found the MGB wasn't really to his liking as much as Jaguars. The car looks stunning even under the bonnet.
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Yes, one of the two Peugeots now running with us - only using 3 wheels through turn 1.
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Tony(?) Morgan, ... late entry, late addition to the series. Not in the race programme either.
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Ice Breaker - Day 2, the complete field of combined Historic Muscle Cars, Historic Sedans, U3L Historic Saloons.
part 1 of 2
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nigel watts
09-13-2015, 07:33 AM
7 cars in total!! Shame really because I'm sure a lot of hard work has gone in to trying to make these classes a success for all to enjoy only to be let down by the car owners. But then I'm not one of them so I can't really talk. Hopefully they will all come out of the woodwork for the festival. Well done to those of you who turned up to race.
Eight Nigel. For some reason, the 1st attachment of part 2 doesn't always show!
Agree. It is bitterly disappointing for the Series' organisers. Maybe we need a new thread to explore the state of play?
Andrew Metford
09-13-2015, 10:15 AM
From looking on MYLaps, there looked to be a sizeable difference in some of the grid sizes between yesterday and today, so did lots of people break down?
In a word, yes!
Plus 2 who had to get away early or were only doing 1 day anyway.
Leg out of bed.
Couple with dodgy clutches.
Head gasket failure.
Electrical failure.
Gearbox reluctant to change out of 1st gear.
Two or three no shows Sunday - no reasons given.
One with low oil pressure.
DNFs included brake pads taking a walk and a couple I didn't find out about.
Three different classes.
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Please note that if anyone knows the driver of this car (ran Saturday only), please let him know the following, as I missed the opportunity - better still, PM his email address as he wasn't in the race programme - so presumably entered after the closing date anyway:
1) Read the regulations about race numbers...
2) Read the ASR's about which races/grids you are allowed to enter...
3) Read up on the history of the Queenstown fatalities and how race/meeting/series organisers can end up in the dock, when drivers/organisers don't adhere to the published regulations regarding eligibility and it all goes to custard.
Spotted on a transporter Tuesday, heading north. (Taken by my wife of course.)
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John McKechnie
09-17-2015, 09:57 AM
Ray- in reply to your question above, taken from entry list-
24 Fred Geissler BMW E36 Coupe Historic Sports Sedans.
No idea how/why entry was accepted for this class, assumed wrongly listed, Definitely not one of ours.
As I said John, he hadn't read the ASR's for the event and ran with Arrow Wheels - in practice (which isn't really an issue), but in the scratch race, which is an issue.
What driver's like this fail to understand, is that in an 'Invitation Series', they cannot just rock up and race. If they (like at Queenstown) were the one to be involved in a fatal, (Queenstown, entered on the day, despite the ASR's having a closing date), then organisers/officials are responsible for allowing them on track, without them being invited or registered for that series. At my age, I have no wish to return to a prison environment, particularly if I was unaware of the problem at the time!
As you can tell from the pic, I was at turn 1 but could just as easily have been on the grid, belted in, well in front of this character, so in either case, I wouldn't be able to intervene.
His numbers weren't to MSNZ standards and I was standing with the accident investigation officer when the same car came out again in the following race, and once again, not in the programme for that race. Neither of us could see his race number, which brings in my other point. In an accident or incident, marshals have to radio in the car number, so how can they do that if one isn't easily visible?
As many cars aren't scrutineered, the onus is 100% on the driver to conform.
I guarantee that 95% of drivers never read the ASR's, but it is unfair to expect our fantastic and enthusiastic young team of dummy grid marshals to challenge drivers. The fact that he went out and practiced with Arrows meant that he appeared on the grid sheet, but cars often practice out of session with the blessing of the CoC to bed in brakes etc., so no one would have challenged it.
Ardmore Reunion 1989. Sorry about the lack of variety of viewpoint, but that is what happens when you are marshalling and well back from the track - and not a very long lens...
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Ignore the image title. Ferrari - see post below...
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AMCO72
09-18-2015, 01:42 AM
And of course 113 should be the Ex Roycroft Ferrari, not a Maserati. Think it is Gavin Bain driving. Just to keep your records straight Ray. I am hoping to earn brownie points for that good handicap :) :) Les Parkinson driving the Jaguar C type replica.
Whoops! Thanks AMCO. Yup, I'll give you 5 seconds on your handicap. Once.
Whilst saving one or two this morning, batch 2, the originals got overwritten with the wrong captions and parked on the computer in the wrong place...
Whilst we tend to revel in nostalgia, at least it doesn't take 3 minutes to scan each negative, when using a digital camera these days.
With both, having to then make a copy that has to be resized and shrunk to be uploaded on here, which I find slow. There must be a programme that does it by batch instead on doing it singly. Any help appreciated.
More older stuff. Dating old slides is even more difficult than negatives - especially when you don't have a race programme... I can't accurately state the date for any of these.
The 5 weekend winter sprint series at Silverstone around November was an annual highlight, with 2 laps of the club circuit, when most of us just had to put up with the 900 yard Curborough course for our action. Genuine Cobra of course. We often had to wait for the November fog to lift before we could start, so sought refuge in the paddock café, for a fry up! I was often on nights and had driven up from Middlesex after my shift finished at 7:15am, competed, drove back, grabbed an hour or two's sleep then back on duty 8:45pm...
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The John Pope Special - road registered twin turbo Aston Martin powered Magnum, also at Silverstone. I wonder how LVVTA would get on with certifying that in NZ...
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Pre '57 series in the UK had some interesting cars. Cadwell Park in Lincolnshire, not sure of the date.
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Motorsport photographer Robin Rew in his well campaigned Reliant, at Curborough
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AMCO72
09-18-2015, 11:20 PM
A Rover 105 wouldnt be the first choice for most people as a race car, but this guy is giving it a bit of wellie thats for sure. Great stuff. And an Aston Martin engined Vauxhall !!!!!!! for goodness sake. That certainly involved a bit of lateral thinking.......wild-as.... That Cobra is nice.....before they went all bloated.
Steve Holmes
09-19-2015, 12:14 AM
More older stuff. Dating old slides is even more difficult than negatives - especially when you don't have a race programme... I can't accurately state the date for any of these.
The John Pope Special - road registered twin turbo Aston Martin powered Magnum, also at Silverstone. I wonder how LVVTA would get on with certifying that in NZ...
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I love these old pics, keep them coming Ray! This car was for sale a couple of years ago:
http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?819-The-John-Pope-Special&p=18920#post18920
Oldfart
09-19-2015, 06:06 AM
Thanks for the photos of "our" pre 61s Ray. That A30/Elan looks way more like one of the bigger Climax motors than an Imp one to my eye. Very cool car IMHO
Pity so many pre '61's have been scrapped, particularly the very cars you need, as restoration was uneconomic. Restoring a Mk2 Jag is expensive, but worth it. Restoring a Riley Pathfinder might cost just as much, but probably not worth it.
Standard Ensigns Rover P4's and suchlike are now quite rare and those in good nick are not going to be racers. Moggie Minors and some Vauxhalls might still be cheapish, but A30 prices seem off the clock for what they are. Mk1 Jags? Not that many around. Good to see the Morris Oxford out there at HD - though it wouldn't be my choice! Ford Zephyrs also seem to be sought after, but most are for restoration/concours these days, not racing.
My choice would be a Riley 1.5...
The Magnette on TM went for a shade under $10,000!
rogered
09-19-2015, 09:00 AM
In Ref to post 646
Those issues aside,
1980 Sandown results
1 Peter brock HDT
2 Fred Geisler - Gary Rodgers
3 Alan Moffat
As well as quite a few bathurst and ATTC starts in Torana A9X's then Group C, and group A Commodores.
Not a bad CV
Just saying :)
Those issues aside
Unfortunately, those 'issues' could have a dramatic effect on the rest of us. Regardless of status or experience, when things go pear shaped and other people may be involved, that counts for nothing. Therefore, should know better...
Whangarei street races January 2000.
Alan Lacey who also raced a TVR at Pukekohe/Whenuapai and a Sierra in Targa.
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Gary Kirkand-Smith - obviously before his altercation with the concrete.
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No driver comment required... but taken before the clutch master cylinder failed and so the car didn't run Monday. PS NOT me behind the wheel...
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I did title it a MIX of Pics...
Taken with a fold out Ensign camera on 30 year old film, which wasn't the best... Dad had hogged the Leica - but I haven't ever seen the pics he took, other than one of me! Shelsey Walsh 1965 before drivers needed overalls...
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The annual January Racing Car show was a must for me and this was the first pubic sighting of the Cooper Maserati.
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1979 Oulton Park Sprint at a guess.
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Donington Paddock was always a nice place to wander. The later 'bulging' Cobra.
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Minis - again...
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Roger Dowding
09-22-2015, 06:31 AM
Minis - again...
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ERC love those Minis, and the one with the stack exhausts thru the bonnet - magic..
More really slow scanning... Richard Seaman Memorial Trophies Meeting Oulton Park 1975.
Oh how I wished I'd had a modern camera back then. Even a telephoto lens would have been great. No rangefinder either - or exposure meter! At least Kodak film was pretty reliable but Photoshop has had to be used to tidy up the colour and eliminate or reduce dust and scratches.
My favourite car (Remus) lapping a Lagonda. The Hon Pat Lindsay at the helm. It was reputed that this car was at one stage, the most raced car of all time - and it still sounds fantastic.
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Neil Corner with trademark helmet.
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Not Neil Corner...
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But this is...
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Some say that the Rover 'Viking' was based on Frank Lockhart, the owner/driver of this very famous Rover Special, that was in fact built by the Rover works as an experiment.
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a few more...
Gerry Walton (I think another Nottingham local, but not sure on that).
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Guy Smith a real Fraser Nash stalwart
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Bob Fowler was a Nottingham gentleman who also sprinted a lovely Aston Martin DB4 GT.
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Not a very good pic and looks like a Maserati and probably is! If the number is 30 then R Felton at the wheel and a 1938/40 1496cc supercharged.
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From the archives - for the Jag fans. (I only scan in the day time.)
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Roger Dowding
09-24-2015, 08:58 AM
ERC, great photo's love the C-type versus Leaf and friends..
A narrow French flavour from the archives. Even a cheap digital camera seems to cope very well these days compared to an expensive camera of a decade or three ago.
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Spgeti
09-25-2015, 03:37 AM
Wow, I will pass these onto my son who is a French fanatic. Great photos as usual. Cheers
My pleasure! Any requests? (Other than stop posting on other threads of course...) Make, model, circuit, body type, age, era etc.
Still so many to scan and a fair pile I doubt I'll ever get around to. I have recently been scanning from old negatives, but for a change, may have a go at a few slides (I get bored easily), but dating them is a total nightmare, other than when I took slides and negs on the same day. The other problem is that many slides are in glass mounts and really need removing and the glasses cleaning, as after up to 50 years or so, they tend to get a bit misty.
Overseas for a few days shortly, so it may go a bit quiet on this thread. I'll miss the TACCOC meeting.
Back to the 1970's.... Still from negatives and in order of date taken. File name is always by year, month, day where known. Anything that is '00' is a not known, so a blind guess.
Mallory Park - of course. My favourite viewing spot as it was the only place where you could get a half decent pic without a telephoto lens. A great viewing spot anyway so once there, I rarely moved as the crowd was usually 3 or 4 deep.
Malcolm West, Camaro, having a bit of a moment.
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John Pope finished 3rd or started from 3rd on the grid!
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The 7 litre Mustang driven (not owned) by Tony Rosen laps the Minis on this 1.35 mile track. Sadly, the Mike Berman 'Berpop' was a non-starter. Fastest was Alec Poole or Rhoddy Harvey-Bailey in the Broadspeed modified Escort. My pic of that is too fuzzy to print. Sorry.
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From the 'if only I'd kept it' section. I bought this1955 RMA Riley for a song but with clapped out big ends. Beyond my ability to restore so sold on for a handsome profit (then). The number-plate alone would now fetch at least $10,000 in the UK. SLH 85 - and I also just happen to have 55 CEW on my old Greeves which needs to go back to the UK to capitalise on the plate value. Co-incidence with a two digit number.
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Neil Corner again at Oulton Park. I wonder what they were soldering? I still have an identical blowlamp and I even had the same brand of solder!
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First and only one of these I think I have ever seen.
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When you look at the construction of cars built for racing in this era, you realise just how inefficient the use of space, but, they have a character that makes them memorable.
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Not the best of pics, but a nice car anyway... Taken at Wollaton Park 1975 during a Festival. Wollaton Hall was in the latest Batman film as Wayne Towers I believe. Same venue as the pics I posted last year of the Nottingham Industrial Museum which has a great display of Brough Superior bikes and one car under restoration.
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Chris Milner was not just a very competent driver, but he also spent a lot of time and effort getting his Capri to handle and steer. I could be wrong, but he may even have worked for Ford. picture taken at Curborough Sprint course, where I seemed to spend most Sundays for a year or two.
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Arthur Nash - who built my Mini engine that may yet see service in Mike Lucas' car... Also at Curborough. When last contacted, Arthur believes he may have been related to Walter Nash, better known in NZ!
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Oldfart
09-26-2015, 06:01 AM
Thanks for the photo of my car "Alpene" Ray, now owned by Peter Benbrook.
Loton Park Hillclimb August 1973. One of the UK's longest climbs and very tricky to learn with so few runs.
Alan Payne's Smiley Riley, still with an 1800cc engine, before he shoehorned the Rover V8 in. Judging by the width of the tyres, I'd guess that the V8 wasn't so far away.
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Castrol/BARC Hillclimb contender Nigel Pow's E Type Jag
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Di McMasters Clan Crusader. Amazing how many of these were used in competition.
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Open necked long sleeved shirt, elbow on the door. Yup, even another BARC contender looked casual - but he is wearing gloves...
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Roger's thread elsewhere alerted me to the considerable number of 'specials' in my collection. So, in date/alphabetical order, here goes, starting with Roger Herrick's A40 special at Chelsea. By the way, when is it this year - I missed it last year?
Some of these really are superb and a real credit to their builders.
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Probably one of my least favourite specials...
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GeebeeNZ
10-12-2015, 06:25 AM
Ray the Magnette wasn't cheap but its being enjoyed by its new owner (geebeenz) who may yet put it around Hampton Downs.
Graeme
Pity so many pre '61's have been scrapped, particularly the very cars you need, as restoration was uneconomic. Restoring a Mk2 Jag is expensive, but worth it. Restoring a Riley Pathfinder might cost just as much, but probably not worth it.
Standard Ensigns Rover P4's and suchlike are now quite rare and those in good nick are not going to be racers. Moggie Minors and some Vauxhalls might still be cheapish, but A30 prices seem off the clock for what they are. Mk1 Jags? Not that many around. Good to see the Morris Oxford out there at HD - though it wouldn't be my choice! Ford Zephyrs also seem to be sought after, but most are for restoration/concours these days, not racing.
My choice would be a Riley 1.5...
The Magnette on TM went for a shade under $10,000!
Good news Graeme! I have a fair few bits removed from my own, (no engine or gearbox bits) so give us a call if you are stuck!
Any date yet for the Chelsea climb?
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Its a shame that so many afterthought roll hoops are so ugly.
Probably one of my least favourite specials...
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Might be a bit visually jarring, but it has a long and successful race history dating back to 1952.
www.bmhcomic.com.au/
Alan Hyndman
10-13-2015, 05:07 AM
Wow - what's this sexy beast?
http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30938&d=1444683467
I know enough about Daimlers to recognise the engine and fluted grille but that's about it. And is the car at all quick? All too often, in several different cars, I've been a bit disappointed with how the Daimler 2.5 V8 goes... (that may of course be a 4.5 V8).
Steve Holmes
10-14-2015, 01:18 AM
Chris Staniland's Multi-Union. (The original photograph wasn't so good, so needed a fair bit of cleaning up, hence the delay.) I had to Google the correct spelling - i.e. one word or hyphenated. Although I know the car from these and other period pics, I didn't know that it was effectively a P3 Alfa Romeo. Needless to say, it has not survived in this form, but has been converted back to a P3 Alfa. There has been some debate about recreating it, using the left over bits.
Those of you who saw James May's TV Toy series and the Scalextric recreation of Brooklands, may just have glimpsed that some of the streets were named after Brooklands' drivers, one being Staniland.
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When you see pictures like this, you can understand why modern racing cars (almost identical anyway) with totally hidden drivers, look so bland.
Ray, did your father take these shots?
Yes Steve. Although apart from a couple of years around 1950, we had no family car, he had a passion for cars and particularly ERA's.
He was a press photographer pre war and later, manager of a large company, specialising in schools (pupils!), industrial, commercial and aerial photography. The boss was a keen pilot and was still flying a microlight in his 80's.
Steve Holmes
10-14-2015, 06:15 AM
Thanks Ray, they're such outstanding images I thought they must have been taken by a professional photographer.
Even more remarkable Steve, as they are on glass negatives - which I still have. That would have meant a maximum of probably 12 shots a day!
Although these were scanned from his original prints (not the negatives) they still needed a lot of work to eliminate the dust spots. In his day, had they been for publication, he would have 'spotted' the prints himself - and he was very much the perfectionist. I think he would have been quite chuffed to know that 75 years later, his efforts would be appreciated by one so young!
Steve Holmes
10-14-2015, 08:13 AM
His efforts are greatly appreciated. These are gold.
Spgeti
10-14-2015, 08:35 AM
I second that Steve and as I have stated before to Ray these are fantastic and be proud of his Dad's skill.
Thanks Guys. He died Christmas 1989 aged 74 (which was just about 18 months after I got my first Amstrad PC) and he would have embraced Photoshop and the digital age with open arms, as he was already into programming in basic - on a Sinclair Spectrum!
I used to go to the photographic works as a kid - and loved it! Many happy hours spent in the darkrooms (and the canteen...) during school holidays, with a great staff then later, washing and drying prints. Not a lot of help with my ability or otherwise to take photographs, but part of a great learning experience from a great Dad.
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We celebrated what would have been his 100th birthday July 2nd this year. I still miss him.
More specials...
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AMCO72
10-15-2015, 12:55 AM
I am always amazed how some specials are just gorgeous, and others are just .........well words fail me. I suppose you already know all of these.......The Maserari, then Roy Rowe in his V860 special are the two I know, and everyone knows the GCS.......the other 2 I dont know........4 gorgeous and one ungorgeous !!!!!!!!!
Agree AMCO! Beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but I suspect many are keener on some form of engineering expression than aesthetics.
I've popped Mistrals in as Specials
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Roger Dowding
10-15-2015, 06:21 AM
Agree AMCO! Beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but I suspect many are keener on some form of engineering expression than aesthetics.
I've popped Mistrals in as Specials
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ERC, great photos and two of my favourites - Ol' Yella II from the USA [ in my Laguna Seca 1982 thread is a photo of it back then ] and the Northland Special - Does Fred Courtney still have it ??
Oldfart
10-15-2015, 07:36 AM
the Northland Special - Does Fred Courtney still have it ??
Yes
Green car is an MER owned by the family of HRSCC stalwart Ray Hawke
Yet more. A bit of a delay as the laptop has had to go away with software issues so I can't upload from my back up drive during the evenings whilst the TV is on as background. Mind you, I can't concentrate on the Roaring Season when Rachel Hunter is on TV anyway...
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You have to hand it to Lord March. Inviting the Wacky Racers proved hugely popular.
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For Sale - contact the owner! Needs a good home and someone who is going to use it... Never crashed and maintained regardless of expense. Laps Hampton Downs 1:12.5 and a very, very successful car.
Targa, Leadfoot and circuits - including Highlands.
One of the best driven Capris around and started a local trend for 'Peranas'!
Personally, I'd like to see it stay around here!
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Yet more specials.
One of my all time favourite cars and as a one off, probably deserves categorising as a special.
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Once again, if any have already been posted, my apologies.
AMCO72
10-18-2015, 09:38 PM
The Ferguson was MY all time favourite race car.......could have been developed into some quite SPECIAL......but I think was outlawed after one season. Looks so low on the track. Was it because it had 4 wheel drive that it was banned....cant remember. Stirling Moss and Innes Ireland drove it among others. I think there was a lot of power loss through the 4wd system, so needed more go from the engine. Was great in the wet though. Has it recently passed through the auction system and got a very respectable price.
It used to be on display in the Donington Collection, but since Sir Tom passed away, Kevin seems to have shifted his WW2 vehicle collection in and quite a few of the exhibits that made a visit such a fascinating experience, have gone, particularly many of these unique vehicles. The Tec Mec Maserati is another that has gone and the March that used to hang on the wall is owned by Roger Wills, who also has a 6 wheel Tyrrell. I'm not sure where that one came from.
The Ferguson sold at auction 2010 and I'm not sure who owns it now as it has been linked with the Ferguson Museum and also the Rolt family. No doubt someone will know!
On my last two visits to the UK, I haven't bothered going through the collection, but I'd love to get a list of all the current cars on display, but suspect it wouldn't be a patch on what it once was.
Maybe a trawl through my old pics will produce another specific museum batch, but many are on slides and much slower to scan, so that isn't going to happen any time soon. Many of those published recently are either digital (post May 2004) or were scanned some time ago, apart from a couple of films. It is just so time consuming scanning negatives and slides that I sometimes wonder why I bother!
Something went a bit wobbly, with pics not showing up, so re-posting this, the last set of the specials. Another total favourite to start... and finish, even though this was the first time I'd seen this in action.
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The next set is for want of a better word, "Groups". My preference in collecting is specific cars rather than group photographs, so this is a mix over the years, in date order, from Dad's 1956 pic of the 500cc brigade entering Gerards at Mallory Park. Not a very good pic and the weather wasn't too good - (typical August day), but deserved keeping rather than binning. Probably the second race meeting I ever attended.
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Brands Hatch 1971. The car at the rear was a huge crowd favourite driven by film star Stewart Granger's son, Jamie. It was in the programme as 'RWJ MG Special'. No match for Neil Corner's D Type Jag and at 1350cc, the smallest engine in the field by 650cc. From memory, not only did he get a standing ovation from the crowd, but he was also pressed into doing a lap of honour!
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Historically, the only ERC driver's Group picture taken to date - January 2003, with series sponsors Geoff Bonham (Leisuretime - MGB), Greg Bellingham (Tracer Interiors - XJS Jaguar) and fellow committee member from the early days in blue shirt, formerly MGCC Auckland President, Derek Prior, who got me into the ERC set up! Yours truly with the Marcos of course. Shows how low it is compared to the MG! (It may be up for sale next year - emphasis on MAY...) Pic probably taken by Simon Brown.
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Pity the Auckland Council wiped out the Domain Hillclimb by demanding a $5,000 fee. OK to pump our rates money into a Hero (sic) parade though...
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More group pics
Goodwood 2009 - the last of the front engined GP cars gave us arguably some of the best looking Grand Prix cars of any era.
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The Goodwood members' car park on the Friday morning was getting busy with a great variety of classic cars.
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Roger Dowding
10-22-2015, 03:06 AM
Ray ERC, great photos and agree those front engined single seaters Formula One and others are great ; Blue and White are they Scarab's ??
Yes Roger. They certainly are. They look quite low when alongside the older Vanwall and P25 BRM.
The fact that we rarely see this sort of machinery in NZ just makes Goodwood so appealing. Back on my bucket list again, if only because I now have a camera capable of getting many of the shots I really want, from the public areas too. Those taken 2009 were on a pocket compact Canon, which was great for static shots, but far too limited for action, though my new compact Canon has a x30 zoom and a far quicker acting shutter, which is impressive.
GeebeeNZ
10-22-2015, 05:40 AM
Ray,
Enjoyed your photo of the Austin Sevens and MGs at the Chelsea Hill Climb. Austin BL5577 is a factory Austin Nippy. I bought it in 1964 as my first car and sold it four years later. Many years ago I found it again and bought it back. It has also run a few times in the Roycroft event at Hampton Downs. In the end common sense prevailed and I sold it and the "Blue Brick" Buckler and bought a MG TF1500. I believe the Nippy is now in the South Island.
Graeme Banks
Last of the groups - for now.
First pic is 2007.
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Probably not too relevant to this message board but a classic case of the safety having to overrule everything else but doesn't give many rich pickings for amateur photographers.
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A few whoopsies... or a great attitude. Due to one of the ways I store the files, these are the Brit cars.
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Continuing the theme.
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Couldn't resist the first...
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I'm no engineer, but maybe some attention to springs and sway bar required here!
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SPman
10-28-2015, 07:46 AM
Is that a Jensen CV8?
John McKechnie
10-28-2015, 09:27 AM
Yes, probably John Jamieson.
Roger Dowding
10-28-2015, 10:02 AM
Something went a bit wobbly, with pics not showing up, so re-posting this, the last set of the specials. Another total favourite to start... and finish, even though this was the first time I'd seen this in action.
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Top pic the Riley - Moth, amazing car..
Yet more... Three wheelers always make good photographs.
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Steve Holmes
10-29-2015, 08:02 PM
A few whoopsies... or a great attitude. Due to one of the ways I store the files, these are the Brit cars.
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Any idea who this is Ray? Can you remember when you took this? Thats a superb looking GT40.
Picture title tells the date (where known) - in this case, 166 = 1966 _0529 is 29th May. I use the same protocol for all my pics Steve. From memory - Sutcliffe, but I'll check. I agree. Lovely looking car.
Yup, P. Sutcliffe running #12, Richard Bond driving Nick Cussons GT 40 ran #14 and J. Cuthbert's car driven by E. Liddell ran #15.
Yes, 3 genuine GT40s out of a grid of 17 cars with 2 non-starters. Pretty impressive - especially for the 1.35 mile Mallory track.
I have posted pics before from this meeting, with Denny Hulme running Syd Taylor's Lola. Two Lotus 30's also entered but one non-starter and car #17 in the pic is Sutton driving the Attila-Chevrolet.
David Piper ran the famous green Ferrari 250LM.
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Sorry Jaydee, couldn't resist it! Such a rare occurrence...
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Same spin
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I may have posted this before, so apologies if this isn't new. One of the unluckiest drivers, persevering with a car that isn't easy to maintain in race trim, but adds welcome variety. Back on track tomorrow.
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Steve Holmes
10-31-2015, 01:53 AM
I'm no engineer, but maybe some attention to springs and sway bar required here!
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Amazing! If this had a dark green roof, it could be the car my parents had when I was a kid!
From the TACCOC Summer Classic at Hampton Downs, Sunday November 1st.
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AES runners...
Richard McCarthy (Jnr) handed the Peugeot over to brother Paul for the day, but there wasn't much difference in lap times.
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Good to Geoff Sparkes back with 4 wheels on his wagon. I tried some different camera settings for the day. Some worked, some didn't.
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But these three went so well, they got themselves promoted to Arrow Wheels, the faster group, for the rest of the season! Paul Madeley is well advanced with his stunning Porsche 944 Turbo, but it probably won't be ready for the Porsche Festival in January..
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Phil Joseph's Rover Tomcat has been getting better and better, lapping just under 1:20 for his best lap of the day. A fair bit of understeer...
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Not long after this, Darron lost all his brake fluid and ended up in the gravel trap at the first hairpin.
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Bert's car now on the 15" wheels and looking all the better for it.
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Out of sequence, as it is from the other camera. We'll soon have far more V8 Capris than were ever on the road in period! Rob Berrgren missed out on Neil Tolich's car but has acquired another Perana replica that we have seen before.
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...where were we? Oh yes, back to the "attitude and whoopsies".
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As you may have gathered from the above, I've moved on from the Brit car pics and now dipping into the other countries by make.
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No excuse for showing Howard twice. A good pic is a good pic and happy to share. Not much point in taking pics if no one ever sees them.
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Taken on a video camera!
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Some people take a bit of time to learn which way the track goes...
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...especially this one.
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What several of the recent pictures show is
a) The spectacular results possible from a digital camera
b) what a superb track Hampton Downs is for photographers, regardless of having a media pass.
Getting a wheel off the deck just doesn't happen at many tracks and I just love cars with attitude or cars that are in any way 'different'. It is what really sets classics and historics apart from the Sing Songs and Falcodores racing.
I just wish I could find a way to clean up glass mounts and scan the pile of slides quickly. It takes a fair bit of time just to shrink and upload the digitals!
VCC Chelsea Hill climb tomorrow. I'll be there rather than watching the action from Pukekohe, though that may be worth recording.
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You can see why the Aussies have a ball!
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Just a few minutes at the Chelsea Hillclimb Nov 8th 2015
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Award for the noisiest car - Roger Herrick!
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Can someone please identify this car for me?
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I've just realised. Where were all the Austin Sevens this year?
Reposted:
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As above...
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Interesting pic this one (Bugatti) from my perspective, as it was taken on a recently acquired pocket Canon with an impressive 30 x zoom facility and the sequence shoot facility. All the others were taken on the Nikon D60. Apart from initially being a lot brighter, it just shows the massive advances in camera technology. I used the same camera few minutes later to video my wife's gold medal ballroom dance exams - with excellent results - both the video quality and her dancing!
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Oldfart
11-09-2015, 02:27 AM
Your photo of the 500, Max Rutherford, JBS, same guy who wrote the superb book, "Paddock to Podium" a must have for real enthusiasts.
The sideways Model A special is Ollie, previous owner of Sterling Brake.
Thanks Rhys. I'll re-post the above attachments tomorrow (in the same place) when I'm back on the PC. Saves Steve trying to sort them out. One may even include a certain pea green Austin...
RogerH
11-09-2015, 04:40 AM
Just a few minutes at the Chelsea Hillclimb Nov 8th 2015
Award for the noisiest car - Roger Herrick!
Thanks Ray! It sounds faster than it is but great fun to drive :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhUaR7oC1js&feature=youtu.be
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An MG stalwart in a Lotus Replica? What is the world coming to...
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This makes it 2 x JBS cars running? Fantastic. I also recently spied a (500cc?) Cooper at Kenny Smith's establishment...
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Not competing, but the car I'd most like to have taken home with me.
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Last batch from one of my favourite events of the year.
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Once again. Can someone please name this, so that I can file the pic!
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Roger Dowding
11-10-2015, 08:13 AM
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An MG stalwart in a Lotus Replica? What is the world coming to...
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This makes it 2 x JBS cars running? Fantastic. I also recently spied a (500cc?) Cooper at Kenny Smith's establishment...
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Not competing, but the car I'd most like to have taken home with me.
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ERC, the Riley " DA 2527 " seems familiar, may have a photo or two of the car at Western Springs Vintage gathering back in 1971, now ... must go and find it. Your photos are great, thanks.. Ray ..
I probably have pics of it there too Roger - but much later of course, as I didn't land in NZ until January 1983!!! I think it is on a slide. There are several other local Kestrels around. To think, when I was about 16, you could pick them up for about 30GBP...
Roger Dowding
11-10-2015, 11:12 AM
I probably have pics of it there too Roger - but much later of course, as I didn't land in NZ until January 1983!!! I think it is on a slide. There are several other local Kestrels around. To think, when I was about 16, you could pick them up for about 30GPB...
Ray, have a big interest in Riley's as my uncle Ed [ Eddie from NSCC ] and my dad Mac Dowding [ NSCC auditor in the 50's ] , had several in the late 30's through to the early 50's, Monaco, Kestrel and others sometimes jointly owned - one in particular was modified - engine, the block was planed too much that they needed double head gaskets and aircraft spark plugs to make it run.. ran too hot ~~ !!..
have a few photos of the Rileys, now must find them.
Last of the saloons and sports 'attitude' pics. I won't trawl through the single seaters as I know that there won't be many that would fit into that grouping.
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Roger Dowding
11-11-2015, 03:51 AM
Ray, have a big interest in Riley's as my uncle Ed [ Eddie from NSCC ] and my dad Mac Dowding [ NSCC auditor in the 50's ] , had several in the late 30's through to the early 50's, Monaco, Kestrel and others sometimes jointly owned - one in particular was modified - engine, the block was planed too much that they needed double head gaskets and aircraft spark plugs to make it run.. ran too hot ~~ !!..
have a few photos of the Rileys, now must find them.
Have two pictures of Riley Kestrel " DA 2527 " and another of a similar Riley, Registration " AZ 1275 ", looks like an earlier model with a Fabric covered roof. will be putting them on a Vintage thread as have around 60 photos, plus my Hunua Hundred ones, so close to 90 photos.
Back to Brands Hatch 1971, with the trusty Leica and no telephoto lens... Scanning is so slow.
F5000 Kitchiner. I'd forgotten all about this car which added a welcome touch of variety to the F5000 grids of the day.
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Mike Hailwood driving the F5000 Surtees.
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Howden Ganley
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Ray Mallock
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Barry Foley, Lotus. I think he was the star of a long running cartoon in the UK motoring press. I might have to Google that.
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A Google search did indeed confirm that. Posted January 2003 on a Lotus 7 message board.
"Barry Foley Saddened to discover, reading this week's Autosport, of the recent death of Barry Foley. For many of you of a similar vintage to me I'm sure you will remember his weekly "Catchpole" cartoons in the self same magazine, featuring the eponymous hero and a host of friends including Grunt, Mad Dog and Booby. This was pre-PC! Until I read the obituary I didn't know he was the genius behind the JPS livery on Lotus Grand Prix cars, nor that he used to race a Seven - no real surprise there then."
Back to Mallory Park, May 25th 1970 (not 1971 as posted earlier). Gee, that is such a long time ago... Some are a little out of focus but that camera had no fancy rangefinder or auto focus, no auto shutter speed and aperture settings and no long lens.
Should have been in the whoopsies section, but I hadn't scanned it then.
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Real Cobras...
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Little did I know then, that exactly 21 years later, almost to the day, I'd acquire a Volvo engined Marcos, albeit the big brother version.
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BMCBOY
11-15-2015, 06:06 PM
Interesting to see your photo of the Modsports Healey 3000 as it looks like the ex Syd Segal car ABL6 now owned by Bill Bolton in the USA. I was lucky enough to have a short drive of this car in 1986 - it was very light, very fast and very loud, but a great experience.
This is a photo of it competing in a hillclimb at Whistler in Vancouver, Canada and the other shot outside his home in Oregon where I think it still resides.
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I posted earlier that the above was 1971 but my eyesight and marbles are getting a bit cloudy... It was in fact May 25th 1970, a year earlier. Ross, that means that although the Healey looks to be identical, it was then driven by John Gott, as many know the then Chief Constable of Northamptonshire and a Healey works driver, albeit, in rallies. It probably moved on to Syd Segal a year later, unless he already owned that car, but Syd was down as racing another Healey, number 87 and Bill Viney (probably with 'HAS 2'?) was a reserve carrying #89.
Same meeting, but taken earlier in the day and on an unbranded film, hence the colour differences. Less than perfect, but a couple of historical interest anyway. I may also have taken slides at this event, celebrating the freedom of a recently failed marriage no doubt, with a bit of a spend up on film!
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That Healey again. I loved Modsports. A class that would probably be outlawed in NZ today! Fancy removing bumpers and trim, and just look at those widened arches. I suppose you couldn't get a CoD if you built one like that today.
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Ted Worswick's Modsports E Type.
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Nearly a pic of Mike Hailwood...
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F5000 Leda - driven by Mac Daghorn who I seem to remember running the Felday (sports) at some stage.
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Trevor Taylor.
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The Kitchiner as posted earlier at Brands Hatch was down to be driven by Gordon Spice at this meeting. Graham McRae driving an M10B McLaren. The F5000 entry list shows up one or two oddballs, even if non-starters or reserves.
Riboto P1 Ford; Dulon LD8; Nike Mk 4; Harris Chevrolet.
Attachments disappeared yet again... Reposted Tuesday.
More from 1970.
The late Roger Williamson.
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The Tarmac F100 series didn't do a lot for me. The Royale out front, but the green car to the right is Nick Cole's Nerus, sister car to the ex-Paul Madeley car that did so well in the Hampton Downs Festival, before being exported to the USA.
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Another for the whoopsie section.
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More oldies...
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Cossie 1
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Cossie 2...
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