Abandoned, Forgotten, Neglected, Race And Road Cars Thread

[bry3500]

I came across "classic cars and Wrecks of NZ" on facebook. They have a lot of interesting pictures, wrecking yards full of old cars, ideal for Old farts pre 1960 series.
But first of all, can anyone identify this left hand drive Escort OSCA

[bry3500]

Horopito Wreckers

[bry3500]

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[bry3500]

Datsun?

[seaqnmac27]

Horopito Wreckers

Theres at least one old Skoda there, first is 2nd from right on the bottom pic. The blue one in the back looks either like another one or an old Bluebird

[Chris Read]

Datsun?
DEFINITELY A DATSUN BLUEBIRD MODEL 312 1962 ONWARDS. MY FATHER USED TO IMPORT THEM VIA HIS PART OWNED COMPANY NISSAN MOTOR DISTRIBUTORS. WAS ONE OF MY FIRST CARS AND A GOOD LITTLE GOER. HAD A 1200 MOTOR AND 3 ON THE TREE WITH A BENCH SEAT IN THE FRONT. COULD NOT KILL THEM AND AS A 15 YR OLD WE SURE TRIED. CHRIS READ- ARROWTOWN.

[Steve Holmes]

This is an awesome thread Bry! Can anyone help with info on that Escort? I'd love to know more about it. Bry, do you mind if I change the thread name to include junkyards from all over the world so its not just limited to NZ? This could get really interesting.

[bry3500]

absolutely Steve ..great idea,maybe incorporate barn finds as well

This is an awesome thread Bry! Can anyone help with info on that Escort? I'd love to know more about it. Bry, do you mind if I change the thread name to include junkyards from all over the world so its not just limited to NZ? This could get really interesting.

[bry3500]

from http://asaucerfulofwheels.tumblr.com/post/10686620020/1962-ferrari-250-gto-3589-3589-was-registered
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO #3589

“3589 was registered to a high school. It was donated to them by Rosebud Racing in Texas when they quit racing in 1964. IT was just an old, worn out racecar. The School kept it until 1970 in the auto shop with students just messing around with it. They then advertised it in Hemmings as a 250GT. A guy in Ohio I believe bought it with the thought of making a quick buck. That didnt pan out, so he put it out to pasture. Literally. The car sat on a trailer in a field for almost 20 years. It is now fully restored and owned by Bert Steiger in Switzerland last I heard. This car was originally raced by Mike Parkes and Innes Ireland among others

[Shano]

Ferris de Joux Jack Brabham body (http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/automotive-transport/cars/auction-467198668.htm) - some pretty serious history here. Bit of fixing up and then a good stash of old 20c coins.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/benderboat/213677234_full.jpg

[Steve Holmes]

from http://asaucerfulofwheels.tumblr.com/post/10686620020/1962-ferrari-250-gto-3589-3589-was-registered
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO #3589

“3589 was registered to a high school. It was donated to them by Rosebud Racing in Texas when they quit racing in 1964. IT was just an old, worn out racecar. The School kept it until 1970 in the auto shop with students just messing around with it. They then advertised it in Hemmings as a 250GT. A guy in Ohio I believe bought it with the thought of making a quick buck. That didnt pan out, so he put it out to pasture. Literally. The car sat on a trailer in a field for almost 20 years. It is now fully restored and owned by Bert Steiger in Switzerland last I heard. This car was originally raced by Mike Parkes and Innes Ireland among others

Wow, are you shitting me? Thats amazing!

[Oldfart]

Ferris de Joux Jack Brabham body (http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/automotive-transport/cars/auction-467198668.htm) - some pretty serious history here. Bit of fixing up and then a good stash of old 20c coins.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/benderboat/213677234_full.jpg

Haven't seen it for years! I have a bucket of coins here!

[bry3500]

Sorry no details

[bry3500]

Germany

[bry3500]

More

[jamie]

Hay Bryan I think that escort is the ex Murry Rawson Mk 1 had lotus TC in it then 1600 BDA wondwred where it went . Jamie

[rogered]

slightly of topic but interesting none the less

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/asia/burma/9204921/British-farmers-quest-to-find-lost-Spitfires-in-Burma.html

[Oldfart]

Those ones of "Car Sculpture Park" are very saddening! Even my place doesn't look quite that sad!

[AMCO72]

Those pics of 'Car Sculpture Park' just make me spit......these bastards that do this sort of thing need a bullet, right where it hurts! A couple of the cars in there have racing & rallying history, and is particularly bad for me because one of them is an XK120. Jim, don't look. Also a very collectable Porsche 356.......Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[105angria]

makes a man cry

[jamie]

Thanks for the reply ROGERED ??IF you took A little time to look at the first question posed by BRY 3500 you would now know that I gave an answer to it so who lost the thred or in your words TOPIC Sorry for being grumpy MUST BE FRIDAY Jamie

[stubuchanan]

Ferris de Joux Jack Brabham body (http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/automotive-transport/cars/auction-467198668.htm) - some pretty serious history here. Bit of fixing up and then a good stash of old 20c coins.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/benderboat/213677234_full.jpg

What a Rip-Off! It was only 5 cents at George Courts way back when!

http://s6.postimage.org/q79p0s4fl/Whangarei_MCyc_etc001.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

On the topic of old neglected car collections, there is an 80-page story on the late Duncan Rutherford's collection at Nelson, in "Heaps More Grady's People" (*)by Don Grady. Some of the cars pictured in it are squeezed between trees etc but they aren't pedigree sporting cars mostly.

(*) think that's the right title : Grady has put out several books over a period about 'characters' from the Nelson/Tasman/West Coast area. Not a motor racing story but an interesting (?eccentric) character all the same.
I found it in the Auckland Library system.

Stu

[105angria]

wastefull

[stubuchanan]

Wow, are you shitting me? Thats amazing!

Point of Order, Mr Holmes Sir. Have we abandoned good taste and polite language altogether? Next thing will be 4-letter words appearing on public advertising hoardings!

http://s6.postimage.org/9xo4bmj5d/NZ_s_Finest.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/rnpswnwq5/full/)

Seen from new motorway near Whenuapai.

Stu

[ElCoyote]

Friday is the blue pill Jamie

[jamie]

Thanks Old Mate I took the one marked D for D~~~s ? Jamie

[rogered]

Thanks for the reply ROGERED ??IF you took A little time to look at the first question posed by BRY 3500 you would now know that I gave an answer to it so who lost the thred or in your words TOPIC Sorry for being grumpy MUST BE FRIDAY Jamie

DONT SHOOT!!!

What i was meaning when i said " slightly off the topic" was that MY POST was slightly off the topic.

Apologies from this end.

And apologies also for being responsible for making you grumpy:)
Roger

[jamie]

Apoloiges from me must be the blue pill as ELcoyte told me trouble is I dont have any.?? thanks for taking the trouble to reply Jamie

[bry3500]

Thanks for the info on the Escort Jamie..I wonder if anyone has a pic of it back then...btw good to chat the other day

[pallmall]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/gavinevitt/GW35Quicke-mailview.jpg

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http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/gavinevitt/GW67Quicke-mailview.jpg


All of the above were rescued and restored.

[bry3500]

Do you have any pics of the restored cars?
All of the above were rescued and restored.[/QUOTE]

[bry3500]

another pic

[pallmall]

Do you have any pics of the restored cars?
All of the above were rescued and restored.[/QUOTE]

Yes, in the same order.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/gavinevitt/074Quicke-mailview.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/gavinevitt/44002Quicke-mailview.jpg

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http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/gavinevitt/045Quicke-mailview.jpg

[bry3500]

Thats great..first thing to really make me smile on this particular thread:D

[bry3500]

The forest reclaims

[bry3500]

Swiss neglect

[AMCO72]

Every time I open a Classic car magazine these days there are pictures of 'Barn Finds'. Now I know that some of these were stashed away in sheds and lock-ups in the UK when Dad went off to the war, and didn't come. Very sad, but also very sad was that the car remained in the shed/barn in memory of Dad, so 2 lives were lost. I'm forever reading where a car has been 'bricked up' for Gods sake, in some smelly, damp old shed, only to be rescued 60 years later by an enthusiast, after the shed has caved in, who had sort of known about it for years, going on a tip from some local. I don't know, I really feel sorry for these machines, that they have missed all these years of being out on the road shooting the breeze.....I know I'm bloody stupid.....it's JUST an old car, it hasn't got feelings.....well I got news for you pal. My old Singer, that you can read about it's resurrection on Yards and Yarns, was bit like this, although it only endured 10 years of neglect, not 60, and she rewarded, yes rewarded me with a lot fun....racing Austin 7's!!!!! And while we are at it, cars are meant to be DRIVEN. I dont care how rare or valuable they are. They are not museum pieces.....if they are also beautiful to look at, then thats a bonus. I'm on my 3rd box of tissues after looking at these sad remains.

[markec]

I was looking through an American magaze dated 1986 that had a lot of pics of in various yards, the pics are in not good condition but I might try and resarect some and post.

[jim short]

Amco I hate to differ but cars do have feelings ,time and again when i am thinking of selling one ,its amazing how well it runs!1

[AMCO72]

Your not differing Jim, your agreeing... quote....'it hasn;t got feelings'......WELL I GOT NEWS FOR YOU PAL......'amazing how well a car runs when your thinking of selling it'.....and how many cars have you sold that you have regretted ever since??? You KNOW thats going to happen when you sell the Coombs, don't you Jim. But then we are just a couple of funny old men. The Jaguar could end up like these poor old girls, abandoned and forgotten, is enough to break out the rum!!

[AMCO72]

Bit of a puzzle trying to identify these sad remains, but there seems to be a mixture of American, English and European. In the first post, 35, the first picture is a tough one....could be a Wolseley with that distinctive radiator,[any other ideas] next a Dodge/deSoto/Plymouth, on SLICKS no less, then Citroen DS, Ford 34 Tudor, last Citroen L15. Post 36....first pic...53 RMA Riley 2.5, TR7 on top of Fiat X19 [should be the other way round!!!]...an Alfa in the bottom right corner and a Wolseley bottom left, last a Morris Minor MM Lowlite in front of a VW. Cant identify the machines with wrap-around windows. Most of these look as though they were not in too bad condition when dumped. There was probably some slight problem that the overseas mechanics could not figure out, especially with the TR7. Would be nice think that some have been saved. Love these...NO I don't love them, but keep them coming. I'll have to go down to the supermarket and get some more tissues!

[GeebeeNZ]

I am impressed with what they have done to the Renault 750 body on the stock car. Looks better than the four door one I had in the sixties.

[AMCO72]

That first damn pic in post 35 had got me going. It is not a Wolseley........could it be a Peugeot?......mmmmmm... Almost looks American, but those chromed headlamps look wrong. Has a fabric roof which has caved in, so is late 20's. Any ideas?

[markec]

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[bry3500]

That first damn pic in post 35 had got me going. It is not a Wolseley........could it be a Peugeot?......mmmmmm... Almost looks American, but those chromed headlamps look wrong. Has a fabric roof which has caved in, so is late 20's. Any ideas?
You are on the money AMC072..Peter Lippmann lived in Paris for 25years, that's where these pics were taken. If you compare the insignia on the radiator in the following pic you will see that your identification of a Peugeot is spot on I reckon

[bry3500]

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[bry3500]

from web

[AMCO72]

Gosh, having to scratch my head for these........starting at top......Peugeot 404?...Citroen L 15...Renault Dauphine.... blue?? mmmmm.....Opel Cadet.....Hot Rod with Nitrous Tank....Dodge ?.....Renault Alpine 110.....Early FHC E type Jag with Ford Galaxie?.....Ferrari Daytona.....a couple of XK's, OTS and FHC. I hope the XK's were saved Dave.

[Rod Grimwood]

Surely some of those are retrievable. sad to see.

[PaulieG]

wow, some of them look almost new compared to some of the absolute wrecks you see restored and back on the track or road. What a shame.

[GeebeeNZ]

The Alpine should be OK it is mostly fibreglass with a steel backbone. Someone seems to have cut the roof on it

[bry3500]

2 hours outside of Oslo Sweden
Pics reproduced with permission fron Svein
for more check this link http://www.flickr.com/photos/nordrum/sets/72157594292703456/with/4902007626/

[bry3500]

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[AMCO72]

GeebeeNZ, it looks to me as though some thoughtful person has placed a roof from another car on the Alpine, rather than cutting the Alpines roof off.......maybe to 'protect' it. That car is of course today enormously collectable. The Swedish lot have got me bushed, although I suspect some of them are Saabs, but the guy with the Austin A30/35 collection had his priorities right. And a Zephyr bonnet in the last pic. Also the 'Dodge' in the Peter Lippmann pics is not a Dodge......is either a Citroen or Renault, and I would plug for a Renault.

[Oldfart]

Swedish ones I reckon are; Saab96, then a 93, then a beetle, then the others you got!
A110 can't be that collectable..nobody wants to buy mine!

[AMCO72]

Oldfart, it must be too expensive for us POOR New Zealanders. You could count what I know about Renaults on the finger of one hand, but I always thought they were a desirable automobile.

[bry3500]

rust never sleeps

[Oldfart]

Oldfart, it must be too expensive for us POOR New Zealanders. You could count what I know about Renaults on the finger of one hand, but I always thought they were a desirable automobile.

Hell, I am one of the POOR ones you mention, I was just in the "right place, right time.." when I acquired mine, and took 8 years to get to current state. It is about half the price of the same car in Europe. And it is desirable, just not getting used. :)

[bry3500]

Who can identify (one is relatively easy.The other very hard)

[AMCO72]

....could the second pic be an early..... DeLorean?

The first pic.....maybe a Ferrari of some sort.

[bry3500]

not a Delorean, but you are on the right kind of track AMC072

[AMCO72]

I'm sure it has got a gull-wing door, but I cant identify the instruments....they look Renault 16 to me. Fluffy trim, auto, small steering wheel with logo that I can't read. Looks 80's.......mmmmmmm

[Steve Holmes]

What a completely awesome thread this is! Its both sad and incredible at the same time.

[Steve Holmes]

What is the car shown in the first picture in Post #47? Just shows the interior, but looks like an old drag car.

[AMCO72]

Next guess.....a Lotus...Eclat. Is there such a thing? The left-hand-drive is what is getting me.
Steve that machine does look like an old drag car.....is that a nitrous tank under the dash? But does a drag car have a windshield and wipers?

[Steve Holmes]

If it was an old '60s Gasser it could have had Gerald, many of those cars were also drivenm on the road.

[bry3500]

Next guess.....a Lotus...Eclat. Is there such a thing? The left-hand-drive is what is getting me.
Steve that machine does look like an old drag car.....is that a nitrous tank under the dash? But does a drag car have a windshield and wipers?
Go back to Gull Wing doors :)

[jim short]

was it made by Rolley Crowther??

[Oldfart]

Cheetah?

[jim short]

who me??

[bry3500]

Cheetah?
Not a Cheetah nor made by Rolley Crowther.
Hint: The cars had no cigarette lighter or ashtray. Non-smoker ....... ....... believed it was unsafe to smoke and drive. The car is the only production vehicle in automotive history to have powered gull-wing doors, that opened and closed at the touch of a button, as standard equipment.
btw ..first dash is not a Ferrari

[Oldfart]

Bricklin?

[bry3500]

Bricklin?
Awesome work Oldfart :)

[AMCO72]

Bricklin.......never heard of it. LHD....American? How many were made, and how many survive in better shape than this poor old girl.
Still thinking about the red car......unusual dash......also LHD. perhaps it had a valuable 'Motolita' steering wheel that got nicked!!

[Oldfart]

Wikipedia gave the answer this time! I usually don't place too much credence on it, but there you go. An idle ANZAC afternoon, other than a bit of work on the Buckler, some on the Volvo 242GT and new manifolds on the A110. Gee what a skite, and all of them have come from some fortuitous dealing, but not a bad collection if I say so myself.

[bry3500]

Bricklin.......never heard of it. LHD....American? How many were made, and how many survive in better shape than this poor old girl.
Still thinking about the red car......unusual dash......also LHD. perhaps it had a valuable 'Motolita' steering wheel that got nicked!!
2600 odd made between 1974 and 1976..Canadian
You were warm in the first pic with the Ferrari AMC072

[Steve Holmes]

There was a Bricklin that appeared in the opening car chase scene of the H.B Halicki film Deadline Auto Theft. A pretty forgettable flick, but he is better remembered for his 1974 movie Gone In 60 Seconds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krM5iOCt2B4

[Steve Holmes]

I think Bricklins were a bit exotic when they first appeared, but I don't know what sort of following they have now. Were very short lived production. I remember seeing one on a run-down car yard when travelling through California about 10 years ago. It had seen better days.

[bry3500]

I think Bricklins were a bit exotic when they first appeared, but I don't know what sort of following they have now. Were very short lived production. I remember seeing one on a run-down car yard when travelling through California about 10 years ago. It had seen better days.http://www.bricklin.org/

[AMCO72]

OK.....last guess. A Maserati 300S..... can I see the 'Trident' on the clutch pedal? My eyes are buggered...too much knitting!!!!

[bry3500]

Ferrari,Maserati, what other brand is famously is red and Italian? 2 words ;)


OK.....last guess. A Maserati 300S..... can I see the 'Trident' on the clutch pedal? My eyes are buggered...too much knitting!!!!

[AMCO72]

OK.......Alpha-Romeo........1900

[bry3500]

Giulia

[Oldfart]

OK.......Alpha-Romeo........1900

What happened to the "last guess"? :)
And it's Alfa, you been pinching Jims' pills? :)

[AMCO72]

Yeh...... why do I always want to spell Alfa, Alpha.... And talking of spelling. It was suggested that we might purchase a dictionary from beowulf. I'm sure he would be happy to sell one, but are we any better off. If you don't have a pretty good idea of how a word is spelt you are no further ahead. Even getting one letter wrong in a word can throw you miles off the hunt. Take a word like 'pseudonym'....you would be hunting forever under 'S'... Spell check, on my computer anyway, is geared to American spelling, and even words I know I have got right are often underlined. Other words don't even figure in USA talk......'UNDO'...a simple little word stamped on the face of a splined wheel nut. It completely baffled the American owners of Jaguars when it appeared in the early 50's. Also...'FITTED'....if you read American writers, like Lee Child for instance, it will always be 'FIT' even though it sounds very wrong to English readers. So, sorry oldfart, I will take less of the pills and see if my spelling improves....lol

[jim short]

You lot are not very fair I have the same problem Jacky Stewart has added to this is my age ,if I stop to check I forget what I was trying to say and with everyone around me using texing and twitter someone has to lead the way,plus the way to combat brain shutdown is to create words and sentences were you have to think ,,Ask Beowulf if he has any of my books I produced on the subject several years back,now all have a happy day

[Grant Ellwood]

Also...'FITTED'....if you read American writers, like Lee Child for instance, it will always be 'FIT' even though it sounds very wrong to English readers.

Lee Child is a Brit who tries to use the local doggerel, Fit being a much used word here (as a verb) but sometimes he goes overboard - in one of his earlier books he used "is all" ad nauseum but eased up in later releases. Shoot, we could start a thread on American racing grammar alone, a lot of racer quotes are really enjoyable reading if you like that sort of thing (or not).....

[AMCO72]

Amerikiwi.....I do like that sort of thing because it it different to what we are used to. Yes your right, Lee Child is a Brit, but sounds very American in his writing.......'have a nice day'....is something he doesn't use, because his victims are definately NOT going to have a nice day! Now Jim, wasn't Jackie Stewart dislexic? I don't think you are dislexic, well it doesn't come out in your writing anyway.....if you write dyslexic as.....lyscedic, then you may be dyslexic. Your grandchildren have been teaching you too much text-speak...ie no capitals, comas, or full stops. But hey, as Steve says, this is not English as a second language class, just get it down and we will work it out. Now we have gone so far off subject, that a rap over the knuckles will be coming from someone.
Amerikiwi......start a thread on American racing grammer and lets have some fun.

[AMCO72]

I checked with beowulf Jim, and the first printing of your book was sold out! Awaiting permission for a reprint with added material. It seems oldfart that I must have a big build-up of Jim's Little Pink Pills, as my spelling is still suspect.....dislexia instead of dyslexia.
Visual Dyslexia.....characterised by number and letter reversals, and the inability to write symbols in the correct sequence.

[jim short]

Yes sorry about the reprint we are using the same folk that did the BMc scrapbook,July Aug we hope!!!

[bry3500]

Btw The Tractor isn't a car but it's a Porsche so it scrapes in I think...

[AMCO72]

The Porsche tractor has been 'arcticised'.....all the air intakes blocked to try and keep it warm in a cold climate. Don't look at the MK 7 Dave......good spare engine for someone. Now that primer painted machine in the bottom corner......could it be a Monteverdi?

[Steve Holmes]

Wow, a very sad looking Dodge Daytona or Plymouth Superbird there! Amazing! Those cars are worth mega-bucks these days.

[bry3500]

It's a superbird Steve

Wow, a very sad looking Dodge Daytona or Plymouth Superbird there! Amazing! Those cars are worth mega-bucks these days.

[aussiemonza]

Wow, a very sad looking Dodge Daytona or Plymouth Superbird there! Amazing! Those cars are worth mega-bucks these days.

Got an address? Myles and I could save that!!!!!!!!!!

[bry3500]

only about 20 made of this model..
The Porsche tractor has been 'arcticised'.....all the air intakes blocked to try and keep it warm in a cold climate. Don't look at the MK 7 Dave......good spare engine for someone. Now that primer painted machine in the bottom corner......could it be a Monteverdi?

[bry3500]

Basket case

[bry3500]

Got an address? Myles and I could save that!!!!!!!!!!
It was on Ebay for $45,000

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Superbird-440-6-pack-727-Auto-Tor-Red-/180701568553?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&vxp=mtr&hash=item2a12a71e29

[bry3500]

Got an address? Myles and I could save that!!!!!!!!!!
It was on Ebay for $45,000

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Superbird-440-6-pack-727-Auto-Tor-Red-/180701568553?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&vxp=mtr&hash=item2a12a71e29#ht_1544wt_933

[Grant Ellwood]

Amerikiwi.....I do like that sort of thing because it it different to what we are used to. Yes your right, Lee Child is a Brit, but sounds very American in his writing.......'have a nice day'....is something he doesn't use, because his victims are definately NOT going to have a nice day! Now Jim, wasn't Jackie Stewart dislexic? I don't think you are dislexic, well it doesn't come out in your writing anyway.....if you write dyslexic as.....lyscedic, then you may be dyslexic. Your grandchildren have been teaching you too much text-speak...ie no capitals, comas, or full stops. But hey, as Steve says, this is not English as a second language class, just get it down and we will work it out. Now we have gone so far off subject, that a rap over the knuckles will be coming from someone.
Amerikiwi......start a thread on American racing grammer and lets have some fun.

I will get some quotes together, don't know that it deserves a dedicated post though? By the way, I have to admit that I'm a dyslexic atheist, don't believe in Dog...

[AMCO72]

Amerikiwi, are you really? The following is not exactly the writing of a dyslexic person, but you get the idea. It is amazing that you can actually still read it. And I am telling you, this was hard to type.

Arocchicg to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy,it deosnt mttaer in waht oredr the llteers in a wrod are, the olny ipromatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat are in the rghit pcale. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit pobelm. Tihs is buseace the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef but the wrod as a wlohe.

Your OK Jim........

A racing saying that I have always liked comes from that great American racing family, the Unsers.
Al said.......Dad taught me everything I know. Unfortunately he didn't teach me everything HE knows!!!

I dont believe in Dog either, or for that matter Juess Csirth!!!!!!!!!

[jim short]

Amco you be lucky I be a refind gent and not able to stoop so low as to poke fun

[AMCO72]

Not poking fun Jim, my old mate, just reassuring you, that you are OK... But a refined Gent?....mmmmmmmmm.

[AMCO72]

Right lets get back on track here. Going from the sublime to the ridiculous, the 2 Porsches in post 91 must be great examples. The 914/6 has got to be, not only the ugliest Porsche, but also one of the ugliest cars of all time. Not sure what Porsche were thinking when they came up with that, and I can understand why someone would abandon it. The pretty little 356 coupe however is another thing. Why was it left to rot. Looks like the English salt has got to it. What rot you can see is bad enough, goodness knows what is underneath. While we are on the subject, could someone on here tell me exactly who the 914/6 was aimed at. Somebody must have 'loved' them, but who?
bry3500, where do you get all these pictures of relics from?...... Nostalgia.......

[Grant Ellwood]

Amerikiwi, are you really? The following is not exactly the writing of a dyslexic person, but you get the idea. It is amazing that you can actually still read it. And I am telling you, this was hard to type.

Arocchicg to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy,it deosnt mttaer in waht oredr the llteers in a wrod are, the olny ipromatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat are in the rghit pcale. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit pobelm. Tihs is buseace the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef but the wrod as a wlohe.







Your OK Jim........

A racing saying that I have always liked comes from that great American racing family, the Unsers.
Al said.......Dad taught me everything I know. Unfortunately he didn't teach me everything HE knows!!!

I dont believe in Dog either, or for that matter Juess Csirth!!!!!!!!!

Very celevr Amco, I showed your answer to my redneck buddies here and they all adlpeuapd, so there is hope for the colonies yet.
Neville Milne is fortunate,he lives 4 hours drive north(Maryland) of here (southern Virginia), where the dialect is fairly neutral.

[Habu]

Right lets get back on track here. Going from the sublime to the ridiculous, the 2 Porsches in post 91 must be great examples. The 914/6 has got to be, not only the ugliest Porsche, but also one of the ugliest cars of all time. Not sure what Porsche were thinking when they came up with that, and I can understand why someone would abandon it. The pretty little 356 coupe however is another thing. Why was it left to rot. Looks like the English salt has got to it. What rot you can see is bad enough, goodness knows what is underneath. While we are on the subject, could someone on here tell me exactly who the 914/6 was aimed at. Somebody must have 'loved' them, but who?
bry3500, where do you get all these pictures of relics from?...... Nostalgia.......

Yes, the 914/4 and 914/6 were both designed for niche market of overweight, middle aged, American male hairdressers werent they? Also loved by many an "autocrosser" - what were the engineers in Stuttgart thinking? Mind you, the same could be said of some of the factories efforts in the 1980's as well. I'll sit on the fence with the 356, its aesthetically pleasing, but Im not sure about the mechanicals. Maybe its just me, I just dont get whole Cabrio / Porsche thing. Now Spyders, thats something completely different :cool:

[AMCO72]

What you are saying Habu ,is that these things are just hotted up VW's!!!!! I didn't ask you to come out and hit me between the eyes, which is what youv'e done, but I thought it was just me that couldn't stand them!!!!!!. You do mean 'autocrosser' and not 'crossdresser' don't you!!! By the way, was the bodywork, or some of it glass-fibre?.... The first 911 was the best, but who am I to talk, I'm not a Porsche fan, and thats putting it mildly. The person we should be asking of course is JIM......come in Jim. But don't get Jim going on Spyders, especially home-made Spyders, or we will here all day.

[jamie]

Hi Boys, Hitler,s revenge the up market ones Still desined by the same man ?? jamie

[Habu]

Ha ha AMCO72, Im still laughing, "hotted up VW's",...."autocrosser and not crossdresser" - I think you've nailed it! I think it was a member of the automotive press who once remarked that Porsches were just "rear engined Nazi slotcars". Unfortunately there are a few racing Porsches that I could quite happily own, ....917. I think Jamie's pretty well on track with us here too. Anywho, I digress, what is unfortunate, is to see good or even great cars go to waste, as some of those photos show. Its a shame that so often cars that have a significance or relevance can fall into the hands of someone of questionable mentality. Worse still, when that person has money, more often than not, they're labelled as "eccentric". Then the rest of us mortals have to watch as the horrors unfold over the ensuing years

[bry3500]

American, only 20 made ..any takers? ( I would be stunned if anyone got this!)

[rogered]

American, only 20 made ..any takers? ( I would be stunned if anyone got this!)

Kirtis???????????

[AMCO72]

Spelt.......KURTIS....?????????? Or maybe a Nash Healey.

[Steve Holmes]

Bry, Glasspar?

[bry3500]

Not a Kurtis ,Nash Healy
Spelt.......KURTIS....?????????? Or maybe a Nash Healey.

[bry3500]

Glasspar??? that's another new one on me
Bry, Glasspar?

[lisian_1275]

How about Woodill Wildfire?

[bry3500]

lisian, I'm stunned...top of the class with honours
How about Woodill Wildfire?

[thunder427]

How about Woodill Wildfire?

.......check brilliant site,www.forgottenfibreglass.com,Tony Curtis starred in an early career movie called "Johnny Dark" where he was a 'Racing Driver' drove a 'Woodill Wildfire' history of car is on the 'forgotten'site.......regards thunder427/Myles:eek:

[bry3500]

Thanks Thunder I'll check that site

[bry3500]

more

[bry3500]

and more

[AMCO72]

Look at the back window on the Jensen. Can I see tape? If I can, that is probably the reason she was parked-up, a smashed window. Those huge back screens on the Jensen were/are worth just about as much as the rest of the car, if you can find one. The rest looks pretty good. Is not an FF though....only a single air grill along the side, so was a bit less complicated than the 4WD version. Still a thumping good motor car.
Second to last pic looks a bit Saabish.
The top pictures......sort of under the tarp, a Triumph Spitfire, the other ??????????

[AMCO72]

Yes of course, they are both Spitfires.

[AMCO72]

No, thats no Saab......could it be an Edsel?

[bry3500]

Saab looker under the tree is an Alfa AMC072

[Oldfart]

Saab looker under the tree is an Alfa AMC072
Or for AMCO Alpha :)

[David McKinney]

More likely a Crosley, I would have thought

[AMCO72]

David, with your encyclopeadic knowledge of motor cars, I hesitate to question you on an identification, and as there is no exclamation mark after the word 'thought', I have to presume you are not kidding us. Just exactly which car do you think is a Crosley. Crosley spelt with one S, as against Crossley, a very prestigious vintage touring car, with a beautiful V radiator. The only Crosley, one S, that I can think of, was a terrible American concoction of the early fifties, and the only suitable description of the car I can give comes from the ubiquitous Tom McCahill........Crosley Super Sports....'This thousand dollar tobacco can on casters can't take on an Allard, but it wont give your bank roll an extra large shellacking either' !!!!!!!!! I await your reply.

[Neville Milne]

David, with your encyclopeadic knowledge of motor cars, I hesitate to question you on an identification, and as there is no exclamation mark after the word 'thought', I have to presume you are not kidding us. Just exactly which car do you think is a Crosley. Crosley spelt with one S, as against Crossley, a very prestigious vintage touring car, with a beautiful V radiator. The only Crosley, one S, that I can think of, was a terrible American concoction of the early fifties, and the only suitable description of the car I can give comes from the ubiquitous Tom McCahill........Crosley Super Sports....'This thousand dollar tobacco can on casters can't take on an Allard, but it wont give your bank roll an extra large shellacking either' !!!!!!!!! I await your reply.

McCahill WAS a bit of a blow-hard............Candy Poole's PBX..Crosley-based racer showed up well in the under 1500cc classes on the east coast of the US.................32 finishes out of 35 starts and a whole lot of class wins along the way..............there were numerous Crosley-based 'specials' racing in period.
Not forgetting the 1950 Sebring event.............won by a Crosley. ... that was singularly ill-suited or prepared for the race

[AMCO72]

I think Tom, and not forgetting dog 'Joe' thought that the Crosley went rather well, despite his rather colourful description of it!! In fact it probably could have beaten an MG TC in the under 1500cc class. But a frightful looking thing. Tom's reports certainly make for entertaining reading, if you like that sort of thing.....I do.

[Andy G]

Bry3500, do you know the man named Brett Richardson that posted this these pictures of the Escort on facebook? I have been trying to get hold of him via Facebook messages but no reply? Im keen to get some photos of this car to compare to the ex Harrington/metropolitan car I have with also ran OCSA. Maybe some usable bits? who knows?Maybe he just doesnt want me to know where this car is?
I Find it frustrating that these guys post pics of these cars saying "what a waste" or 'Nooooooooo!' but yet they wont tell anyone where these great rotting cars are?

[David McKinney]

David, with your encyclopeadic knowledge of motor cars, I hesitate to question you on an identification, and as there is no exclamation mark after the word 'thought', I have to presume you are not kidding us.
The first one in Post 121

[bry3500]

1949 Crosley chassis fiberglass bodied barn find

[bry3500]

I did manage to message him on facebook - he was slow in replying..they seem pretty secrective on the whereabouts, i'll try again and pass on any info to you
Bry3500, do you know the man named Brett Richardson that posted this these pictures of the Escort on facebook? I have been trying to get hold of him via Facebook messages but no reply? Im keen to get some photos of this car to compare to the ex Harrington/metropolitan car I have with also ran OCSA. Maybe some usable bits? who knows?Maybe he just doesnt want me to know where this car is?
I Find it frustrating that these guys post pics of these cars saying "what a waste" or 'Nooooooooo!' but yet they wont tell anyone where these great rotting cars are?

[stubuchanan]

Duncan, who raced the "other" Lycoming Special in South Island events in the 1950's, was an avid hoarder of cars. When he died a few years ago, he had about 300 cars in various states of repair at 2 addresses in Richmond, and more (which couldn't be recovered) at his original home at Leslie Hills, North Canterbury. A few examples :

http://s6.postimage.org/ckhvh5vg1/D_Rutherford_p39part.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s6.postimage.org/3qqz028hd/Fiat_Stude.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Photos are from a story in "Heaps More Grady's People" by Don Grady, Nelson.

It is a human peculiarity that some are compelled to hoard all manner of things, cars particularly. If you Google "Alex and Imogene Miller (of East Orange, Vermont) you will find the story of a couple who, over many years, hoarded Stutz cars, Bearcats and other models in sheds and barns made of scrap materials built with recycled nails on a ramshackle farm property. Neighbours thought they were impoverished recluses, but the eventual auction netted millions, most of which went to the IRS for unpaid taxes!

Stu

[bry3500]

Australian Owner requires info
http://users.tpg.com.au/normv/RACECAR/RACECAR.html

[bry3500]

Goggo Cont'd

[Andy G]

Nice one Bry.

[BMCBOY]

In 1982 a group of members of the Austin Healey Club NZ attended the 30th anniversary of A-H in the US.
While in L.A. we were interested in finding a few parts for the various cars we owned or were restoring as
used spares for British sports cars in NZ at that time were rare and expensive.
We were directed to Foreign Parts West by the LA club members as a good example of a typical wreaking yard
and it was owned by a couple who were also LA AH cub members which was a bonus.
This was at a time before classic car prices soared in the mid 80's and a lot of non too rusty cars were bought up
by others around the world who also discovered these goldmines in the "drier" States.
As you can imagine we were completely blown away by what we found in these yards.
I rediscovered these old slides the other day - not the greatest quality, but fun to look at.
As can be imagined - we got the parts no problem.818781888189819081918192

[BMCBOY]

If I remember rightly the lines of virtually complete cars parked out front could be purchased as is but if they didn't sell they were broken up.
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[Steve Holmes]

Wow, just awesome! Thanks for sharing those BMC.

[Steve Holmes]

Australian Owner requires info
http://users.tpg.com.au/normv/RACECAR/RACECAR.html

That is fantastic!

[bry3500]

A few more

[bry3500]

sent you a PM Andy
Bry3500, do you know the man named Brett Richardson that posted this these pictures of the Escort on facebook? I have been trying to get hold of him via Facebook messages but no reply? Im keen to get some photos of this car to compare to the ex Harrington/metropolitan car I have with also ran OCSA. Maybe some usable bits? who knows?Maybe he just doesnt want me to know where this car is?
I Find it frustrating that these guys post pics of these cars saying "what a waste" or 'Nooooooooo!' but yet they wont tell anyone where these great rotting cars are?

[bry3500]

Ok -I located it, sent you another PM
sent you a PM Andy

[Oldfart]

The first one in Post 121

Again, I hate to question your knowledge, but is that not another Spitfire? So much positive camber (swing axle rear on a Spit, vs beam axle) and the stud pattern on the wheels is very Triumph looking, whereas the photos I have of the Crosley are very distinctive.

[AMCO72]

Absolutely no doubt about it Oldfart. They are twins, as I said in P123. For a start the Crosley does not have a front that lifts up, although the front has lifted and completely gone on one of them.. the swage line along the door, positive camber rear axle, same instrument panel, same windscreen, windup windows. The bloke must have been going to make one out of two, instead both have died and gone to heaven. Our American correspondent had some good things to say about the Crosley, and the stuff he has unearthed seems to back this up, but I will bet my bottom dollar that not one car has survived.

[David McKinney]

Again, I hate to question your knowledge, but is that not another Spitfire? So much positive camber (swing axle rear on a Spit, vs beam axle) and the stud pattern on the wheels is very Triumph looking, whereas the photos I have of the Crosley are very distinctive.
My knowledge, like anyone else's, is there to be questioned:)
At first glance I thought it looked like a Crosley, or Crosley derivative, but can see Triumph attributes if I look hard enough...

[Steve Holmes]

The Torino stock car in post 143 is pretty cool. I wonder if its still sitting there.

[Steve Holmes]

Re that Escort OSCA racer posted at the start of this thread, has anyone got any photos from when it was racing?

[Steve Holmes]

This was on Facebook

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[Carlo]

This was on Facebook

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Looks like Jac Macs back yard, lucky bugger there is some good kit in there :D

[thunder427]

attachment 8399

;)....the Roaring Season as a 'NEW' reality game......Hot of the press,Free!!!!!...with every 6 Tee shirts purchased.....:confused: 'FIND OUR DALE ':confused:...spend hours looking through Mustang wrecking yards,:)fun for the 'Whole Family'...more fun for Dale!!!!!......MJ:cool::cool:

[bry3500]

More neglect

[AMCO72]

Hey Markson.....your favourite car, and my least favourite car. Last pic, a series 5 Alpine, might even be a Tiger judging by the gap in the chrome side trim where someone has removed a name......'Tiger' being the most desirable name to pinch, I would have thought.
Then from top of post 154.......XK 140; a couple of very interesting machines...American ?; A Peerless; Lotus Elan; Next, Texas plate?????; then the Sunbeam.
Markson, my Alpine was a BIT better than that. The reason I think it may be a Tiger are the wheels fitted to it, but I'm sure you will put me right on that.
The Peerless was Triumph TR3 powered, and did well in the 1958 LeMans race finishing 16th overall, and winning the 2 litre GT class.

[bry3500]

Right on the money AMCO72..it's a Tiger for sure.... 2nd from the top is a 1958 Devin, the Texas plated car a Corvair.

[AMCO72]

Yes of course, a Corvair. You can see the grill along the base of the rear window.
Wasn't it the Corvair that got Mr. Ralph Nader's tits in a tangle...... 'Unsafe at any Speed'..... and started the big 'anti car' revolution.

[Dave Silcock]

It sure was, when i worked for Ernie Ransley back in the day, we had a Corviar Monza Spider in to work on . It was turbo charged,surely before Saab, who most people list as the first turbo charged car and had the dreaded swing axle which Nader took a dislike to, forgetting that Volkswagen and a few others had it as well. It or NSU started the dog bone grill of Mk1 Escort and Simca fame.

[Yeah yeah na]

Here is an old one, I'm sure alot of you have seen...

Some of you say neglect.....think opportunaty!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhMMPa3tQKM&feature

[markson]

So this is where they all went Graham 9448

[markson]

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[markson]

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[markson]

38 x Ford GTs

6 x Monaros

4 x Ford Cortina GTs
Found in a shed next to a pub in South Africa Graham

[stubuchanan]

38 x Ford GTs
6 x Monaros
4 x Ford Cortina GTs
Found in a shed next to a pub in South Africa Graham

For Abandoned Forgotten and Neglected cars, they look in pretty good nick. How So? Is there a story?

Stu

[woody]

More likely South Australia?

[markec]

They were found behind a pub in South Africa, purchased for $15,000.00. I can't find the original Email regarding them, Rod Grimwood sent it to me around the 14 / 6 / 12.

[bry3500]

2 more

[bry3500]

Nascar Impala barn find and one to get you thinking :)

[bry3500]

interesting

[bry3500]

more

[bry3500]

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[tonttu]

And back to the bush

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[Rod Grimwood]

They were found behind a pub in South Africa, purchased for $15,000.00. I can't find the original Email regarding them, Rod Grimwood sent it to me around the 14 / 6 / 12.

Yep, apparently guy bought the shed and land and found these when they opened the door. will find email and post site details

[Steve Holmes]

Re the Aussie muscle cars, note how the Monaro has 4 headlights. Australian cars were assembled in South Africa for a time. The Falcon GTs were known as Fairmont GTs, the Monaro were called something like Chevrolet SS, or similar. With the values of these skyrocketing in recent years in Aus, the South African variants are finding their way into Aus for much less money.

[Steve Holmes]

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Wow, incredible! The red car missing most of its upper bodywork is either an Iso Grifo or Bizzarini! Really desirable cars.

[markson]

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[jamie]

Awsom BRY3500 it is truleu mind bogling what is out there Jamie

[markson]

You were spot on Steve .Graham 9478

[bry3500]

Post 171 . Bizzarini

[bry3500]

A tatra and 3 oddballs

[Oldfart]

2nd one is a ManicGT made in Canada, and tthe guy selling it does not respond to emails!

[bry3500]

2nd one is a ManicGT made in Canada, and tthe guy selling it does not respond to emails!

Yep.. :)

[markson]

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[stubuchanan]

Not a completely unknown occurrence on those West Coast beaches that can be driven on.

http://s6.postimage.org/fhj8h4bch/Hamiltons_Gap001.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Hamilton's Gap Awhitu. Must have been driven there, the road access is half a kilometre away.
Interesting that the brake disc/rotor has no rust on it. Any guesses as to what it was?
I've seen similar on Ninety Mile Beach.

Stu

[thunder427]

Not a completely unknown occurrence on those West Coast beaches that can be driven on.

http://s6.postimage.org/fhj8h4bch/Hamiltons_Gap001.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Hamilton's Gap Awhitu. Must have been driven there, the road access is half a kilometre away.
Interesting that the brake disc/rotor has no rust on it. Any guesses as to what it was?
I've seen similar on Ninety Mile Beach.

Stu

...its 'Upside 'down for a start,I would guess a Holden Ute/Panelvan full chassie and that would fit with the 'disc' brakes !!!!

[Oldfart]

And bloody dangerous they are too! To people as well as cars driving along the beach.

[bry3500]

Holden Sandman.....

[jamie]

What ever it is it FFF all good to the Fish Jamie

[stubuchanan]

...its 'Upside 'down for a start,I would guess a Holden Ute/Panelvan full chassie and that would fit with the 'disc' brakes !!!!

I'm impressed by your instant diagnosis with so little information. Yes, I knew it was upside down, and wondered what if anything was underneath - i.e. body or mechanical bits. A couple of West Coast high tides would probably be enough to turn a vehicle into scrap.

The black sand is Ilmenite (= Iron Titanium Oxide) - Titanium is noted for its anti-corrosion qualities, does that mean that these cars wouldn't rust as quickly as on the other coasts. Any metallurgists out there?

Stu

[bry3500]

tow truck and 5 more

[Rod Grimwood]

Holden Sandman.....

Well done Bry, obviously not up late last night

[bry3500]

Well done Bry, obviously not up late last night

on the contrary Rod.. :cool:

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLe6JO4dOM&feature=related

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LYjRPkoNWs

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a8rh7BcGiQ

[Ost]

This one looks to be a Graham model 97


interesting

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9461&stc=1&d=1340881118

[Paul Wilkinson]

This one looks to be a Graham model 97


http://bringatrailer.com/2012/03/05/bat-exclusive-factory-supercharged-1939-graham-coupe/

[bry3500]

here's an interesting one

[bry3500]

and another

[shellsport]

Celica ?

[bry3500]

Celica ?
Yep ex - Schnitzer as bought to Japan by TOMS

[thunder427]

...when I was 'Buying' cars out of Tokyo / Japan, in the 80's,one yard I used to go to had a 80's/ Le Mans Sports car on top of its office, no running gear as such,big wheel just sitting in place,still all signwriten up........but sadley 'Not For Sale',but what a great starting point...oh Well!!!!!

[Steve Holmes]

Dead car lot from the old Dukes Of Hazard tv series. I think I found this one on the HAMB:

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[Chris Read]

I just love the sections in magazines such as 'under the hedge' or 'in the paddock'. I saw a photo in a magazine many years ago that stuck in my mind. I was an Alfa saloon I think in a delapidated state on the side of a road an exotic rural village somewhere and it had a chain around the door pillar with a big padlock which was negated by the fact that their were no windows. Some time later I was travelling and went to Macau where I visited Teddy Yip I think it was who had a garage cut into the hill on the Macau circuit.
After that I rented a mini moke and drove around the various small islands that are connected by bridges. I came into a small Macau rural village and out the corner of my eagle eye which I have for tucked away cars, I saw something worth stopping for. There was the very car in the magazine complete with chain and padlock. I took my own photo and continued on my way. Chris Read-Arrowtown.

[Steve Holmes]

Chris, do you still have the photos from this trip?

[Chris Read]

...when I was 'Buying' cars out of Tokyo / Japan, in the 80's,one yard I used to go to had a 80's/ Le Mans Sports car on top of its office, no running gear as such,big wheel just sitting in place,still all signwriten up........but sadley 'Not For Sale',but what a great starting point...oh Well!!!!!

Like the Roller on top of the shed in the wrecking yard between Hamilton and Cambridge. Style! At least some of it was for sale as I got a piece of trim off it I needed for my car at the time.
Chris Read-Arrowtown

[Steve Holmes]

...when I was 'Buying' cars out of Tokyo / Japan, in the 80's,one yard I used to go to had a 80's/ Le Mans Sports car on top of its office, no running gear as such,big wheel just sitting in place,still all signwriten up........but sadley 'Not For Sale',but what a great starting point...oh Well!!!!!

Myles, if you were buying cars out of Japan in the '80s, you'd have to be a multi-millionaire now wouldn't you? It seems those smart enough to jump on this market back then had a licence to print money.

[Chris Read]

Chris, do you still have the photos from this trip?
I do, but it was in the video period of my life long photo taking and the vids are on little cassettes for which the camera does not now work. One of my many retirement projects is to convert them onto disc and there is a plan!
The story was a little more than a drive - My kids were reminding me of the trip not so long ago as after we had rented the Moke (I had to hand over my Passport as collateral which Kiwis don't like doing). I said I would take them round the Macau circuit and off we went but part of it in street form was 'one way' and not the way we were going. We continued on anyway but not without being noticed by the local miltia who took off after us. We headed for the houses (my passport being recorded by the rental firm in the back of my mind) on the hills above the town to lose them but boxed ourselves in on an ever narrowing downhill street that ended with steps. The kids were hooting with excitement over the chase saying to go for it, so down the steps we went in the Moke as only a NZder knew was their purpose. At the bottom I saw the big bridge over to the first island and on the advice of my wife who was becoming less impressed with the antics, she said we had better get out of town - and that's how we ended up in the village with the padlocked car. We booked out of the hotel, took the Moke back to the ferry terminal, got my passport back and left on the last ferry to the mainland that night - a day early. Haven't been back since. Chris Read - Arrowtown.

[Russ Cunningham]

I do, but it was in the video period of my life long photo taking and the vids are on little cassettes for which the camera does not now work. One of my many retirement projects is to convert them onto disc and there is a plan!
The story was a little more than a drive - My kids were reminding me of the trip not so long ago as after we had rented the Moke (I had to hand over my Passport as collateral which Kiwis don't like doing). I said I would take them round the Macau circuit and off we went but part of it in street form was 'one way' and not the way we were going. We continued on anyway but not without being noticed by the local miltia who took off after us. We headed for the houses (my passport being recorded by the rental firm in the back of my mind) on the hills above the town to lose them but boxed ourselves in on an ever narrowing downhill street that ended with steps. The kids were hooting with excitement over the chase saying to go for it, so down the steps we went in the Moke as only a NZder knew was their purpose. At the bottom I saw the big bridge over to the first island and on the advice of my wife who was becoming less impressed with the antics, she said we had better get out of town - and that's how we ended up in the village with the padlocked car. We booked out of the hotel, took the Moke back to the ferry terminal, got my passport back and left on the last ferry to the mainland that night - a day early. Haven't been back since. Chris Read - Arrowtown.

My friend, the Chief of Police in Macau, sends his regards. A great tale from a ageing hoon (pardon the expression) Nowadays you'd be a boy-racer.

[thunder427]

Steve, yes, there was a lot of money to be made, I had put 4years into refinning my purchasing and import /export skills,with some fine people involved both in Japan and Melbourne, signed a deal to import cars/vans/people movers for an Australian based Asian company that was 3yrs in contract,worth inexcess of $5 mill only to recieve a "General' letter from the F#!~%ng Australian Government that basically said ...Quote; 90days from the receipt of this letter there will be no more 'Personal imports!!!!.....I should have got on the plane and come home,but I had meet a number of the NZ 'importers' in Japan and I figured the last thing that was required was another 'Punter'......I grew up in the car game as my Father sold 'New and abused' cars his whole life.his advise at that time was that there was enough people doing it in NZ...his advice was ....."think of something else"!!!.......but I like the way you think Steve!!!:confused::(:)

[RSZWEI]

Dead car lot from the old Dukes Of Hazard tv series. I think I found this one on the HAMB:

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Whats HAMB Steve?

[Steve Holmes]

HAMB is Hokey Ass Message Board. Its the forum section of the brilliant Jalopy Journal site for traditional hot rods: www.jalopyjournal.com

[bry3500]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2209381/A-Bugatti-racing-car-abandoned-bags-rubbish-sells-270-000.html

[bry3500]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hornet-/121018268464?forcev4exp=true

[bry3500]

from barn finds

[Steve Holmes]

I wonder what happened to all of these.

[ERC]

Last pic (car 99) is an early pre 1964 Marcos Gullwing. Plywood chassis of course...

Not sure where these pics are from but I'd also love to know what happened - to that one anyay.

[Oldfart]

An NZ car which I have not seen since I very nearly bought it in Rotorua.
The guy I went to see called it a Dyna, had a rear engine and memory says a coupled pair of Dyna-generator engines from a war surplus source, plane? It was painted brown.
I would have looked at it in the mid to late 60s.
Anyone have any further info?

[David McKinney]

The Dyna-Four apparently had two single-cylinder 500cc Lawrence aircraft-auxiliary engines mounted back-to-back. I saw it race once or twice around 1963 or '64 (in dark blue), and believe it was in the Bay of Plenty area a couple of years after that, but haven't heard of it since.

I took these photos at scrutineering for the first Pukekohe GP meeting

[jim short]

The Dyna-Four apparently had two single-cylinder 500cc Lawrence aircraft-auxiliary engines mounted back-to-back. I saw it race once or twice around 1963 or '64 (in dark blue), and believe it was in the Bay of Plenty area a couple of years after that, but haven't heard of it since.

I took these photos at scrutineering for the first Pukekohe GP meeting

The last time I was at Ted Thomsons he was building a special with 2 starter motors of some plane 1961? he also had modified his Healy 4 bodywise?? along with his lovely 39 coupe,at one hillclimb Ostridge Road the V8 had 8 Ammal carbs, and to think he was deaf how he tuned it was amazing,then again was he really deaf???

[Oldfart]

Thanks David, that's it! Is it more likely that these are 2 twin cylinder 500s? There are 4 pipes, called Dyna 4 ...?

[David McKinney]

Yes, I believe they were 500s

[Oldfart]

Hi David, not being pedantic, your reply #219 you said 2 single cylinder 500s, is it possible 2 twin cylinder units?

[David McKinney]

Yes it is possible. I only repeated what I'd been told:)

[stubuchanan]

The Dyna-Four apparently had two single-cylinder 500cc Lawrence aircraft-auxiliary engines mounted back-to-back. I saw it race once or twice around 1963 or '64 (in dark blue), and believe it was in the Bay of Plenty area a couple of years after that, but haven't heard of it since.

I took these photos at scrutineering for the first Pukekohe GP meeting

This photo was taken at a Pukekohe CC hillclimb at Ararimu Road, Paparimu around 1964-65. Not sure what colour it was then, or who drove it.

http://s6.postimage.org/6o6t49bzl/Ararimu_Hill_007.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

The car's origins seem to be several years earlier. At the NZ Championship Sprint at Aka Aka(Eastern Drain Road?) run on 19 November 1960, Eric Watt set a NZ Class G (751-1100cc) record for the Standing Kilo in a Dynafour Special of 34.62 sec. Not particularly fast, the 500 cc cars of Jeffares and Learnan were a second or two faster, but obviously faster the the existing class record.

Does anyone know who built it or when?

Stu

[RogerH]

This photo was taken at a Pukekohe CC hillclimb at Ararimu Road, Paparimu around 1964-65. Not sure what colour it was then, or who drove it.

http://s6.postimage.org/6o6t49bzl/Ararimu_Hill_007.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

The car's origins seem to be several years earlier. At the NZ Championship Sprint at Aka Aka(Eastern Drain Road?) run on 19 November 1960, Eric Watt set a NZ Class G (751-1100cc) record for the Standing Kilo in a Dynafour Special of 34.62 sec. Not particularly fast, the 500 cc cars of Jeffares and Learnan were a second or two faster, but obviously faster the the existing class record.

Does anyone know who built it or when?

Stu

Was it the Dyna Four built by Ted Thompson and Curley Brown (see Vercoe page 110).

[stubuchanan]

Was it the Dyna Four built by Ted Thompson and Curley Brown (see Vercoe page 110).

Quite possibly. Re-reading Vercoes story doesn't help, but Pukekohe programmes from 1963 and 1964 show both Robert Rankin and Garth Taylor entered it as the Dina Four, of 977 and 948 cc capacity. 1960 news clipping refer to the Dynafour Special so maybe they were 2 different cars with very similar name. Pity there isn't a photo of the Eric Watt car.

Stu

[markson]

Hi While working in the bush the other day,collecting fire wood,I came across the remains of this rusty,trusty,TREKKA???, it look like it rolled,I am not sure if there is a body ,or bones under it??? 16029

[markson]

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[markson]

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[markson]

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[markson]

Any one looking for a life long rewarding resto project

[Ekwah]

Where is it now??

[225sloper]

Driving down the road a number of years ago and this is what i spotted on side of road.Me and my son pulled up,got out and took some photos.I noticed some more cars in the distance one of them looked like a Vailant Charger.Also was a guy with a digger and truck in the same paddock,so we went up the drive jumped the fence and headed to the digger driver to ask if we could get better photos of the Merc,when really my interest was the Charger.He was the owner of property and was digging up vehicles that had been buried for a number of years.What i saw was a pile of rusty panels,rear ends,front ends just rubbish.He was taken it to the scrapyard as the price of scrap was good.Havent been down that road since,but pretty sure it all ended at the scrapyard17146

[225sloper]

Here is the rusty Charger17147171481714917150

[Steve Holmes]

Wow, that is amazing! Of the 'big three' the Chryslers were always the poor cousins, both in the US and Aus, but now they're demanding really big money for the right cars. This Charger would be worth plenty now if its condition wasn't so bad.

[Steve Holmes]

Ummm...

17733

[fullnoise68]

Hey John McKechnie, when most people get an old car out of a shed they take an air tank to pump up the tyres. They don`t usually need an air tank to view the car!!!!

[Spgeti]

One careful lady owner, low milage, always garaged......

[Johnj]

Any idear where these cars are & if they are for sale

[rogered]

the merc was on telephone rd just east of hamilton

[Oldfart]

This just came through from "Bring a Trailer".


This interesting auction shows over five hundred classics, said to be from the ’40s through the ’80s, in an old towing storage lot. The photos show a great deal of sunbaked Detroit iron, though it would be interesting to see what all is included. The seller notes that most of the cars are basically intact, which could yield some restorable -projects out of the acres of parts cars. Find it here on eBay in Apache Junction, Arizona, with bids starting at $500k.

[Steve Holmes]

Can you post up a link Rhys? That looks interesting!

[Oldfart]

Struggling with a link, but Ebay auction number is 171027628789

[Frosty5]

Type bring a trailer in google and there it is. Fascinating collection.

[bry3500]

Bedford Vam Team bus anyone?

[bry3500]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/9653221/Couple-must-clear-away-scores-of-old-vehicles

[Oldfart]

Bus (post 246) at Towai, Northland, and it was moved last few weeks so it must be mobile, even if it doesn't look it!

[bry3500]

http://motoresanu.blogspot.it/2013/10/para-onde-vao-os-carros-de-corrida.html

[bry3500]

http://motoresanu.blogspot.pt/2013/10/para-onde-vao-os-carros-de-corrida_11.html