Old Race And Road Car Ads

[Steve Holmes]

Markec sent me this cool clipping from Auto Action, December 1985, and I figured it'd be a great start to a thread on old race car ads. Go ahead and add to it as you see fit.

Here is the page in its entirety:

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[Steve Holmes]

Here is a closer view of the top half, which includes Terry Hooks Lola T610.

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Heres one I scanned from Sports Car World in 1962, for the hoards of Humpy Holden racers.

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[Steve Holmes]

Also from 1962, Milano GT kits.

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[AMCO72]

Steve, I dont think this is a good idea looking at all these old ads, and the prices being asked!!!! A bloke might feel like jumping off the bridge.............

[Steve Holmes]

Our very own Roaring Season member, Dave Silcock, selling off one of his Jags, in 1967. What was the price Dave?

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[Steve Holmes]

Steve, I dont think this is a good idea looking at all these old ads, and the prices being asked!!!! A bloke might feel like jumping off the bridge.............

Ha ha ha. Actually, you've probably owned most of the cars advertised on here anyway Gerald!

[Steve Holmes]

Jim Mullins A40 Allcomer.

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Some UK bargains at John Dangerfields in Bristol, from 1968.

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A brilliant and not terribly subtle ad for Owens Tyres.

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Norm Beecheys Speed Shop. Sorry about the quality, this is on the back cover of an issue of The Australian Hot Rod Review from 1968, so pretty scuffed up.

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Rodger Andersons BMW plus trailer.

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[markec]

I have a supply of material that will be looked at with this thread in mind, especially for sales that were being made by those at the sharp end of period racing. I always find for sale adds of interests just as background scenes of many photo's are of great interest.

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Anything with Gulf-Oil is cool7255

[Powder]

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[Steve Holmes]

Awesome stuff guys! These are cool! Hey Bob, you still got that Hart motor? Price looks fair, I won't even haggle on the $3200! Ha ha ha.

[Rod Grimwood]

Awesome stuff guys! These are cool! Hey Bob, you still got that Hart motor? Price looks fair, I won't even haggle on the $3200! Ha ha ha.

Give ya 3 and a 1/2 Bob

[bob homewood]

Interesting when you look back on prices ,That was a big sell up at the time to make the move to a Pacific car ,that never happened in the end ,the 416B head eventually I sold it to Rayden Smith ,I vowed I would never sell it ,but It went to a great guy and a good home and he still lets me look at it occasionally
Most of the other stuff went over time ,I had to beat the punters off lining up to buy the Caball ,the 2 litre TC I still have in my collection,the Waggot crank motor went back to Oz ,interesting the Lotus TC standard bare head that was one of the best standard heads I have ever seen ,I could sell that ten times over in this age and for a lot more I might add ,now if only I still had it all and could sell it tomorrow at todays prices

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[Dave Silcock]

Steve, I have been trying to remember the asking price for this, but as it was the start of decimal currency, and dealers were reluctant to call a 500 pound car a 1000 dollar one , 400 rings a bell but wether dollars or pounds i can't recall. The 120 FHC I bought at the same time was 350 of what ever we were dealing in at the time.

[jim short]

Fisher wanted to swap for my 911 in 1988

[markec]

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[Bruce302]

I went with my then boss in about '83 to see a red XK 150 FHC that Charlie Conway had for sale, $20 K , it was considered too much at that time.
Crying now of course.
Bruce.

[jim short]

And to think I paid the max for a E Type in 81 a serries1 4.2 roadster with hardtop $20,000 40,000miles and 4yrs later sold for a new record $45,000 four yrs. later same car for sale $150.000 never sold finaly went for close to $80.000 3yrs on.today cheep ai $150.ooo and I WISH i HAD IT!!

[AMCO72]

Bruce302.....I wonder if the XK150 FHC that you saw at Charlie Conways in 1983 was the machine that Rex Day owned. Rexs' was bright red with disc wheels. There weren't many red 150's around at the time, with the not so desirable disc wheels. Rex was a well known member of the Auckland JDC, and at one stage bought the car down to Cambridge to 'my' panel beater to be restored. However on inspection it showed serious rot in all the wrong places, and was going to cost Rex a great deal more than the $5,000 he was prepared to spend, and as the rest of the car was, to put it mildly, a bit of an old dog, Rex went back home with his tail between his legs!!!! Jim you will remember whether Rex traded his car in at Charlies. The time frame is about right.

[Bruce302]

Sounds like it could be the same car. it must be out there somewhere, and it was pretty typical of what Charlie was selling back then.
Bruce.

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Hi Guys,thought you might like this ad from Auto-Action. $16 k might seem cheap in todays money but at the time of this offering you could also buy three new XA-GT,s. The mind boggles........Two genuine ZL-1,s,one careful owner,only driven on Sundays!

[Steve Holmes]

Wow, just amazing! Yes, 16K was quite a lot for the time, twice the price of Terry Allans Camaro below, but it had won two ATCC titles, and had a proven record. I hadn't realised Bobs drag car was raced so little. Only four times in two years.

Here was Terry Allans big block Improved Tourer, advertised in early 1971.

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[markec]

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[thunder427]

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....the Drag Car was the Dark Blue ZL1 #52,that had the motor removed prior to sale,then was later totalled in a 'road' accident,the 427 motor was stored from'73 2002 when it 'fired' up in the 'Famous' #33 ZL1,#7 Camaro......regards thunder427/MJ

[markson]

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I looked after this car for many months, when Charlie Conway had it for sale, when he was in Dominion road
I drove around in it for many a mile, I even done a few laps at Puke in it I sure dont no how Dave ever raced it!!! Graham

[Dave Silcock]

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I looked after this car for many months, when Charlie Conway had it for sale, when he was in Dominion road
I drove around in it for many a mile, I even done a few laps at Puke in it I sure dont no how Dave ever raced it!!! Graham

As I have said in an earlier post that car should have been put out of its misery long before Charlie got it. It was dangerous to drive at any speed, Graham your are a braver man than I to drive it round Puke.

[mid-year]

That is interesting stuff Myles,what a shame the Le-Mans Blue No 52 was lost in a road accident but how lucky are we to still have the gorgeous Hugger Orange No 33 alive and well and to see Bob sharing it with the public........job well done!

Regards Pete

[markson]

Hi Dave No I think it was the other way ,you being the brave one ,I must say it used to sound fabulous going up Symonds street in third gear Unfortunately I now have arthritis in both shoulders as a result I am sure. Graham

[gazza]

Hi guy's, saw this thread and thought i'd add a couple more for your viewing pleasure

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i460/happyhorsey/WarwickFarmAdd.jpg

1954
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z303/roadnrallytwo/January1954.jpg

1966
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z303/roadnrallytwo/June1966.jpg

1970
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z303/roadnrallytwo/July1970.jpg

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i460/happyhorsey/Old%20Motor%20Adds/Zephyr1954.jpg

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[GeebeeNZ]

I have a 1967 NZ price list which shows my Fiat Abarth 695SS (hot Fiat 500) as being a similar price to a Cooper S. Needless to say they only sold one of them. Things have changed as I understand they have sold a handful of Abarth 695 Tributo Ferrari ( modified new 500) models in NZ at $79,900 which seems a horrendous amount of money for a small Fiat.

[gazza]

1972
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z303/roadnrallytwo/October1972.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z303/roadnrallytwo/October1972.2.jpg

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo207/roadnrallythree/Major.jpg

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo207/roadnrallythree/Valiant.jpg

[gazza]

These are from the first world war ...... pt1

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img180.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img176.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img169.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img166.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img174.jpg

[gazza]

ww1 pt2


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img175.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img163.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img162.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img181.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/img171.jpg

[gazza]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/Jane63.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/GTS-350.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/NormsShop.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e117/roadnrally/Norm_Beechey_Speed_Shop_-_Repaired.jpg

1996 Add
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i460/happyhorsey/Mario454.jpg

[Steve Holmes]

Hey Gazza, thanks heaps for posting these, just awesome! I particularly love the Bob Jane and Norm Beechey ads.

[gazza]

Thanks Steve, i'll see if i can dig a few more up for you

[Milan Fistonic]

Here are a couple of desirable cars that were for sale in early 1959.


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[GeebeeNZ]

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One wonders what happened to the Felgates of 1974 and did such expressions of wealth really help sell spark plugs. Now days if people want to promote themselves they just go on reality TV

[markec]

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[105angria]

sorry about quality scanners on the blink

[AMCO72]

Wow......C49's. These were the latest thing in tyre technology in about 1964, even though they were still cross-ply. So special they rated a mention in the above 'works demonstrator' ad. My Dad had a set on his MKI 2.4 Jaguar, fitted by no less than Wally Darrell, at his ACE tyre shop in Christchurch. The 2.4 didn't have the sort of performance to test these things out, but they seemed ok for an odd blast into the countryside.

[105angria]

mix of mags RCN road and track

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will fix scanner

[markec]

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[Steve Holmes]

Boy, these are fantastic! When does that Beechey Nova ad date from Mark? I assume 1969?

[Steve Holmes]

mix of mags RCN road and track

Wow, incredible! Do you have dates for the Ferrari ads? A 250 SWB for $6300! I know, I know, houses were probably cheaper at the time, but still it makes for interesting reading.

[markec]

Beechey Ad is from August 68, his first appearance was at the"First Big Bay Park" meeting, December 30 1967.
I have a couple of pics and articles regarding Bay Parks first couple of meetings but am not sure where to post them. I will b e looking at 1969 tomorrow Friday, 18 / 5 / 12.

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[Steve Holmes]

Awesome, Pete! Thanks for these.

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[John McKechnie]

Hi Bruce and Amco72 -In replying to you question of this XK150 Fixed head- just say the word and I can give you all the details from then till now.Yes it went through my shop and I gave it the full retrim. Can even post photos.Just say the word.......

[John McKechnie]

I was a good friend of Bruce and it was tragic what his mental health made him do. Has any one got one of these cars or any body shells.He was very talented.

[Steve Holmes]

sorry about quality scanners on the blink

Not sure how I missed the ad for the Gardner/Grice Corvair. 12K doesn't sound like much, but that was 30 years ago. Plus, I think the car had been outlawed, so surely there was nowhere to race it? Didn't Gardner scrap it in the end?

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Found these ads of some kool cars1635716358163591636016361

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[Steve Holmes]

Wow! These are great! Thanks for posting.

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[Steve Holmes]

Nice one, I was starting to think I was going crazy when I mentioned on the Pinepac Mustang thread one of these cars was up for sale 7-8 years ago for 35K. Both cars now race in Historic Group C and A, and at least one of them has been for sale more recently, with another 100K added to the price tag.

[John McKechnie]

Is this the one under discussion on another thread- Abes Babe at Baypark.?
talk was $175k aus.
The value of authentic race cars is a bit like central Auckland house prices.
And consequently they are careful who they exercise and play with.

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[Steve Holmes]

Awesome!

[Steve Holmes]

Is this the one under discussion on another thread- Abes Babe at Baypark.?
talk was $175k aus.
The value of authentic race cars is a bit like central Auckland house prices.
And consequently they are careful who they exercise and play with.

I could be wrong John but I think the one in the ad is the ex-Don Smith/Bo Seton car which became the first Pinepac car.

[Milan Fistonic]

On another thread there was discussion about Greg Taylor and his cars. In the January 1994 issue of Speedsport he was advertising these cars for sale.

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[jimdigris]

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the 1967 Mustang has a "record player" :eek: Wouldnt want to come across any speed humps or pot holes ;)

[Steve Holmes]

I'd not noticed that before Jim! That would have been the height in in-car bling.

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[Milan Fistonic]

Nice one, I was starting to think I was going crazy when I mentioned on the Pinepac Mustang thread one of these cars was up for sale 7-8 years ago for 35K. Both cars now race in Historic Group C and A, and at least one of them has been for sale more recently, with another 100K added to the price tag.

I don't know if this is the same car that was advertised for $35000. This one was for sale in December 1993.

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[Steve Holmes]

Hey thats great Milan! The car advertised I believe is the second Pinepac car, which the Pinepac team built themselves. But the car advertised further up the page for 35K, I'm not sure which one that is. Tony Rutherford will probably know though.

[Jizim]

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Haa great to see Mundell and Slaughters ad here. Thats where I started my apprenticeship. Barry Algie was there at that time and built a twin cam head for a Mini.... as was Bruce "Porky" Anderson. Cool thanks guys. Regards, Tony Rutherford.

[Jizim]

Hey thats great Milan! The car advertised I believe is the second Pinepac car, which the Pinepac team built themselves. But the car advertised further up the page for 35K, I'm not sure which one that is. Tony Rutherford will probably know though.
Yep you are right on the dot there Steve. I had the original car that Bruce and Wayne got from Aussie. (which just sold for telephone numbers) This is a Hopper built car that they used as a second car I guess and Rex Findlay owned this (replica). Wayne put this one onto its roof doing a practice session at Manfield just Prior to Wellington Street race.....then Graeme Addis was looking at "buying a drive" in the B & H and wrong slotted the Getrag gearbox and spun into flaggies post at Railway Corner at Pukekohe causing major damage. However, my car got restored by Ken Hopper and sent to Aussie ....later to be sold for big bucks and then Ken got the job of restoring this car and sending it back as well. Ken has made a very good top resto on both these cars and that is why I guess they command such a high price..... Regards, Tony Rutherford.

[John McKechnie]

[QUOTE=Jizim;28172]Haa great to see Mundell and Slaughters ad here. Thats where I started my apprenticeship. Barry Algie was there at that time and built a twin cam head for a Mini.... as was Bruce "Porky" Anderson. Cool thanks guys. Regards, Tony Rutherford.[/QU
Hi Tony- I was talking to Barry Algie today, he said the two of you worked together at Engine Rebuilders

[Steve Holmes]

Do you think this one is still available?

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[Oldfart]

Not at that price Steve!
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