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conrod
04-07-2012, 09:27 PM
but I shure hope this site does not get like the ten tenths

Prompted by this comment,I thought I would throw this question out there. I have pretty much stopped visiting ten tenths now as it has turned into quite a shitfight on several of the NZ forums.On my last visit I was having a pleasant enough discussion with someone about placement of fuel tanks, and some big head jumped on calling me a "self appointed engineer" or something to that effect. I don't need personal attacks, and have not been back since.

Over here everyone seems like quite a level headed bunch. Question to Steve Holmes especially, and everyone else, (and I know many are doing this already) how does everyone feel about using their real names on here, instead of a nom-de-plume or nickname? I know many of the people who post on here use a nickname, but make it quite obvious to all who they are, which is a good thing. It may just make the plonkers think twice about joining, as I am sure this site is going to become very popular. And being "popular" means the inevitable riff raff will want to come along and give us their 2c. Just my thoughts, what do you guys think?:)

Conrad Timms

AMCO72
04-07-2012, 09:42 PM
Conrad, I bought this very subject up with our administrator right at the start last winter. I suggested that if you just want to browse through the site using a nom de plume that was ok, but if you wanted to post..ANYTHING...your real, given name, should be available in the new members part. I like to know WHO I am a 'having a vigorous discussion' with. Steve obviously knows the identity of everyone who joins, but the rest of us don't. I have posted close to 500 pieces and have 'put my foot in it' a few times!! Some posters use their proper name, I dont, but can easily be identified by looking up on new members list. Steve told me he was happy the way it was......is that still the case Steve?

AMCO72
04-08-2012, 03:42 AM
Of course, Steve can remove stuff that is posted that goes beyond what is right and proper, but he can't be sitting at the computer all day policing what is written. He has removed stuff before today, and given those responsible a tune-up, but I sense that he would rather let unfortunate comments from people, riff raff as Conrad calls them, get sorted out by forum members, rather than wield the big stick. However, he is the BOSS and what he says goes!!!!

Chris Read
04-08-2012, 09:06 AM
Steve who?

Powder
04-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Steve who?

Some guy with the username 'Steve Holmes', but we've no idea of his real name.:)

woody
04-08-2012, 08:34 PM
Real name might be John Holmes ????????????

AMCO72
04-08-2012, 09:02 PM
This story is getting a bit like Sherlock Holmes. Will the real Holmes please stand up!!! Where is the fella anyway......must be at the beach; hasn't posted for a while.

Steve Holmes
04-09-2012, 08:20 PM
Conrad, thanks for your concerns. I've been a long time visitor/member on various motoring and motorsport related discussion forums for years, which is perhaps the reason I'm happy for members to have Usernames that hide their real identity. I do prefer people provide a little info about themselves when they first join, but this isn't compulsory. But the fact someone doesn't post in the Intro section, doesn't mean they've come here to cause trouble.

One of the best forums, currently, in my opinion, is the Jalopy Journal/HAMB, for traditional hot rods: www.jalopyjournal.com (http://www.jalopyjournal.com) The HAMB has just over 170,000 (one hundred and seventy thousand!) members, with a large portion of them having Usernames that have no relation to their real identity. But the behaviour there is generally very good, with the longer term members, and the Administrator keeping things in check. New members join, see how well others behave, show some respect to fellow members, and this snow-balls. The whole process works very well. Any members who act like dickheads, are soon shown the door. I plan to run The Roaring Season the same, and although we have only a small membership thus far, the behaviour of our members and the subject matter are both really impressive, and this sets the tone for new members who join.

I want people to enjoy themselves when they visit this place, and I really enjoy the piss-taking that takes place between people like Gerald Fogg (AMCO72) and Jim Short, as this shows there is a relaxed nature about the place, where people are comfortable.

And don't worry, this place won't become like some of the other discussion forums you've mentioned. For a start, in my experience, bad behaviour in motorsport discussion forums is far more rife when the subject matter is modern motorsport, as very little knowledge is required before people consider themselves an expert, and start mouthing off when they should really just shut-up. Historic racing, and motorsport history, does tend to attract people who have a more genuine interest in the subject matter, where the community itself is more close-knit, and the people generally better behaved.

People often become very brave when hidden behind a Username that doesn't reveal their true identity, and will suddenly gain the courage (for want of a better word) to speak to others in a way they wouldn't have the guts to do if they were face to face. But that hasn't happened yet on The Roaring Season, and if it does, that person will be shown the door.

AMCO72
04-09-2012, 08:44 PM
Thanks Steve for that. That said, I still like to KNOW who I am 'chatting' to. Jim and I have known each other for donkeys years, so a bit of 'piss taking' as you call it is OK. I have had a similar feeling of ease with others, as I can feel that they are on my wavelength....Dave of course, and thunder427, Miles, when the forum first started. I think we had each decided how 'far' we could go with the 'insults' and not offend the other guy. I have enjoyed, so far, most of the stuff on RS, some of it has annoyed me, and I have put my foot into discussions I should have left alone. Never mind, keep up the good work......remember what Henry Ford said.......'you can't build a reputation on what you are GOING to do'......How true.

jim short
04-09-2012, 10:24 PM
Gee Amco a mistaka I make you not seroius please disregard the white powder {only flour] in that envelope that should arrive tomorrow or next day and dont even open the get well card due mon next old buddy

conrod
04-09-2012, 10:30 PM
Thank you for the reply Steve (and others!) This is a great site, and long may it remain so. I guess being a site that is dedicated to Motorsport History means that its users tend to be more "mature" than other sites that are of more a general nature.

I myself have been involved in Motorsport at a professional level for over 20 years, and although I have been involved to the very top (world championship) level, most of my work now centres around historic racing cars, as that is where my interest lies. Having said that I am "only" 43 years old, and with a few exceptions struggle to get excited about many of the modern classes of Motorsport.

And although there will always be big ego's wherever there is motorsport, Historic racing generally has a lower number of these compared to modern classes, as most of us now realise we will not be getting that call from Ron Dennis any time soon!:)

Conrad

Rod Grimwood
04-10-2012, 01:09 AM
And i thought all the time Mr Short was serious, bugger!

jim short
04-10-2012, 01:37 AM
Thank you Rod good to see you young folks still have some respect for your Idols [mr} had a good catch up with Ralph at Taupo.Hard to beleive at first didnt recorganise each other told me how you played up at P I

Steve Holmes
04-10-2012, 02:22 AM
Thank you for the reply Steve (and others!) This is a great site, and long may it remain so. I guess being a site that is dedicated to Motorsport History means that its users tend to be more "mature" than other sites that are of more a general nature.

I myself have been involved in Motorsport at a professional level for over 20 years, and although I have been involved to the very top (world championship) level, most of my work now centres around historic racing cars, as that is where my interest lies. Having said that I am "only" 43 years old, and with a few exceptions struggle to get excited about many of the modern classes of Motorsport.

And although there will always be big ego's wherever there is motorsport, Historic racing generally has a lower number of these compared to modern classes, as most of us now realise we will not be getting that call from Ron Dennis any time soon!:)

Conrad

Thanks Conrad, have you done an intro just to say hello and tell the other members a little about yourself? http://www.theroaringseason.com/forumdisplay.php?12-New-Members-Please-Introduce-Yourself-Here

Trevor Sheffield
04-10-2012, 07:08 AM
Exactly why do some not wish to post under their real name? What is the problem? What is your problem?

A name does not provide a means of identity, dangerous within cyberspace. Surely concealment when passing comment indicates a lack of intestinal fortitude. When reading posts I am inclined to react accordingly.

Trevor Sheffield.

Rod Grimwood
04-10-2012, 07:16 AM
Good Ralphy, He told you Jim about me keeping an eye on them and keeping them inline, now you know how hard that can be.

jim short
04-10-2012, 07:56 AM
Hi Trevor do you remember meeting me Epson motor show??

Trevor Sheffield
04-10-2012, 08:12 AM
Sorry Jim, I do not.

What was the date of the show? It would have to have been way back in time.

thunder427
04-10-2012, 02:11 PM
....About 1971/2 I was in Shepperton,aprox 2hour/plus drive from Melbourne,meet 3 'Aussies' friends of the family I was staying with,'Ocker','Pigpen' and ''Dirty Jeff,over a couple of Saturday 'arvo beers, I volunteer to pick up the 'Likely Lads' and drive them to the Annual Dance/Ball at the Town Hall,around 7.30 as arranged I knock on the front door!!!!!....Smart looking Lady comes to the door,whom I immediately assume is the Mother of one of the Trio!!!.......I am dumfounded!!!!...what are thier real names???????...who do I ask for????

"Oh!! HI!!!,You must be Myles,you've come to pick-up 'Ocker','Pigpen' and 'Dirty Jeff'......"Phew,I'm glad you said that ,I dont believe I know thier real names",I stammer, relieved, of the hook!!

'Oh, I dont know why we as parents bother giving them names,you send them to school and they come home with new names they will be known as for the rest of thier live,we as parents just give up"!!!!!!

Tags, Nicknames,can be a bit of fun for EG; 3 guys arrived from NZ around 1980,Peter, Paul and Gavin,thier friend had asked me to buy a 'panelvan',a good one, as the 'boys' where heading to West Australia/Perth and the plan was to 'round trip' and sell the P/Van,cashed up head home to NZ............well I had the 'Signwriter' signing up a 'drag' car I had just 'Custom painted' so I got him to write on the 'Tailgate'...wait for it !!!!..."Peter, Paul and 'Mary' on tour'......ever since the 'Gavin' factor has been known as 'Mary'....I never ever get Christmas cards !!!!..............

This is a 'Fun Forum' and I like being 'thunder427'...thunder for 'Thunder Road'/my bussiness...427 for my most favourite Camaro......and if I am answering my 'Ferry Road' friend AMCO, I enjoy signing off with Myles,as we are/have become friends.......thanks to the openess of The Roaring Season Forum..........lets keep it 'Optional' !!!!........regards thunder427/Myles:cool:

jim short
04-10-2012, 07:36 PM
1990 car show Short Spyder and Paton on Alan Dicks stand.. man and women stop to look he mention he raced some yrs back .What is the name,yes I remember a Morgan was it not made this man very happy someone remembered ! perhaps my mem. is worn like the rest of me regards jim

AMCO72
04-10-2012, 08:08 PM
Jim, Jim, Jim.......it is just as well you use your proper name on here, and not hide behind some terrible pseudonym, other wise I would think I was reading something posted from Bangkok!!!!! Just exactly what are you trying to tell us here in post 20. Something about a Morgan making this guy velly happy.

AMCO72
04-10-2012, 08:16 PM
I know, it's so subtle it's gone over the heads of all current readers! So for a dumb bugger like me, please explain.

jim short
04-10-2012, 08:42 PM
Amco I am writing this really slow,as I stated in 1990 at the motorshow Epson Alan Dicks stand{forget the mags name} use my cars to lift his image{lol} amongst all the folk passing through was this man and women.who like most stopped to look and ask questions about this beautiful car.In talking I think maybe the women mentioned here husband{ I asumme}had raced cars back some yrs. ago I asked under what name .for some reason I think it was Trevor I replyed yes you ran a Morgan, this made them very happy that he was remembered . I myself have been spoken to {in a nice way}somethig is quite refreshing at the last few meeting I have been to I quess Martin has had something to do with it{look theres that famous granddad} or then perhaps I owe them some money ok thats as slow as I could type good luck

AMCO72
04-10-2012, 08:58 PM
Jim, thats great. Could I perhaps suggest that in future you write everything SLOW, or maybe not so much slow, as NOT in text-speak. As for being spoken to in a kindly fashion these days, maybe folk are just polite and thinking, 'how the mighty have fallen'!!!!

jim short
04-10-2012, 09:27 PM
Thanks Amco by the way I like amco so much easer to spell than Gerreald .. all jokeing aside I stand with head bowed I always thought I was ok but when someone who went to school untill 24yrs.. calls me MIGHTY I off here to mow the lawn that I hate with a smile on my face thank you so much regards

AMCO72
04-10-2012, 10:03 PM
Twenty five actually, Jim. In fact that is precisely the reason I use a pseudonym.....nice and SHORT and easy to spell! Anyway some pseudonyms are very clever, and I enjoy trying to decide what they mean; a bit like personalised plates. Just remember Jim what Theodore Roosevelt said about education........'A man who has never been to school may steal a freightcar, but if he has had a university education, he may steal the whole railroad!!

jim short
04-11-2012, 12:28 AM
Hi Trevor sorry I had to cheat and dig out old programs T Waterfeild Morgan was the happy man.1964 at Puke .

Trevor Sheffield
04-11-2012, 12:37 AM
Kia ora Jim,

You are a man who thankfully displays his own name and I know exactly where you are coming from. No problems in understanding your thoughts.

I could not comprehend that you could be referring to a chance meeting so long ago as 1990, as I have only very vague recollections. I have never owned a Morgan but any conversation could have involved very similar cars. Whatever, as you point out it is nice when memories are recalled.

Congratulations on mowing on. When I moved on, I made sure that I no longer had lawns to mow. A nice small landscaped area suits us fine. However a double garage in lieu of two doubles, a car port and parking space, does not go down so well.

Cheers,

Trevor.

jim short
04-11-2012, 01:32 AM
Thanks Trevor we also had the respect of one of nzs top man in Ralph regards jim