Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread

[Steve Holmes]

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Call them what you will. In the UK was the long running Super Saloons category. In the US, John Bishop formed the International Motor Sport Association (IMSA) in 1971, and the success this class enjoyed prompted the Sports Car Club of America to rehash its own Trans-Am rules into something very similar. In Australia, the category known as Sports Racing Closed was reformatted and renamed Sports Sedans, then in 1973, given championship status by the motorsport governing body, CAMS. In New Zealand, when the 'anything-goes' Allcomer category was killed off in 1967, aggrieved South Island competitors formed the Open Saloon Car Association (OSCA) to provide themselves a place in which to keep racing their old Allcomer cars. In the North Island, what started out as FIA International Group 5 in 1967 metamorphosed several times throughout the 1970s until, by 1975, was effectively running to IMSA rules. When this was killed off in 1977, Sports Sedans grew from the ashes a few years later.



But regardless of their individual names, and exact wording of their rules, all these categories throughout the world were of the same ilk. Created in an era when it wasn't just the cars that wore flares. Sedan racing rules during this period encouraged creative thinking, and resulted in machinery that was as wild as they were unique, as loud to look at as they were to listen to. They sported huge wheels and tyres, housed in massive flares, glittering open exhausts dumping out either side of the cabin, and whacky aerodynamic appendages. They were beautifully tacky, and a perfect representation of their time.



Each car was unique, each one not only an extension of its designer/builder/owners personality, but their own interpretation of what was the ultimate racing sedan. And fortunately, the importance they played is now finally being recognised, and these machines are being sought out, restored, and raced once again.



So lets start a Photo Thread on 70s and 80s modified racing saloons from around the world which we can all contribute to, including everything from professionally built DeKon Monza's, to wild and whacky backyard specials. I'll kick things off with one of my favourite racing photos, from Bay Park, New Zealand, in December 1975. This photo, taken by Phil Robinson, is significant, because it incorporates the ultimate racing sedans of the period from the US, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand, all in the one race.



On pole position is Leo Leonard in the NZ built PDL Mustang, while alongside him is Canadian born Australian Allan Moffat, in his newly acquired American IMSA DeKon Monza, chassis 1005. On row 2 is a second DeKon Monza, this time chassis 1001, the first DeKon Monza built, driven here by Kiwi Red Dawson, who'd just purchased it from American Mo Carter. Next to Dawson is a second New Zealand built Mustang, this one being that of Jim Richards, who by this stage was living and racing in Australia.



Row 3, and its the first of the European bred machines, this being the Kiwi built RS3100 Capri of Don Halliday, with its Cosworth GAA quad-cam V6 engine. This car was constructed around 1974 ETCC Group 2 Capri mechanicals, but fitted into a locally acquired and modified Capri bodyshell. Lining up next to the Capri is Jack Nazers Chevy V8 powered Vauxhall Victor, which was designed and built by Jim Stone, who'd recently returned to New Zealand after living in the UK, where he'd worked for McLaren Race Cars.



Out of shot, but right behind the Halliday Capri, is Grant Walker, driving the ex-Paul Fahey quad-cam Capri, which was a 1973 Ford 'works' entry in the ETCC. Originally fitted with a push-rod V6, Fahey later acquired a '74 model quad-cam motor. And, finally, is Australian racer John McCormack in the radical Ansett Chrysler Charger, fitted with a Repco V8, mounted within the cabin, next to the driver. This car revolutionised the Australian Sports Sedan scene when it debuted in 1974, and set the president for Sports Sedan design for years to come.



So, who won on this occasion? Leo Leonard in the PDL Mustang won all three races at this event, but Allan Moffat, in the Monza, was the fastest.

[Steve Holmes]

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The pace shown by the two American IMSA Monza's at Bay Park shook up the PDL team, as although they'd won all three races there with their Mustang, Moffat, in particular, was faster, and only held back to second due to Leonards ability to hug the pole line, making overtaking damn near impossible. But the PDL team could see their elderly Mustang with its original floorpan was instantly outdated by the US space-frame machines, and this proved to be the case a couple of weeks later when they faced Moffat again at the Wigram Air Base circuit, and where they were soundly beaten.

At first they considered buying a DeKon Monza of their own, but given they already possessed a large stock-pile of Ford racing equipment, including a pair of rare alloy 351 blocks, decided instead to build a Ford space-frame car that could beat the Monza's. Their PDL Mustang II was all self-designed and built, although the fibreglass bodywork molds were supplied by Charlie Kemp in the US, who'd built a similar Mustang II for IMSA.

[Steve Holmes]

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The John McCormack Australian Charger, as described in the first post.

[Steve Holmes]

The success of Allan Moffats Monza in late 75/early 76 and the eventual speed shown by the Dawson Monza promted Art McKee to head State-side late 1976 in search of a DeKon Monza when he moved into the series. He couldn't find a DeKon machine for sale, so ended up buying this Grant King built car instead. But unfortunately he had a terrible time with it.

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[Steve Holmes]

A new coat of paint and correct Monza rear sheet metal didn't improve the situation.

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[Ellis]

A couple of pics that should slot in here ok....
Photo Credits...Perry Drury Launceston Tas

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[Steve Holmes]

Great photos Ellis! Whats the story on the #37 Mustang?

[Steve Holmes]

This is a car that I find a little bit mysterious. This photo was taken by Mike Feisst, at Bay Park in New Zealand. I have an old ad for the car at around the same time, in which it is described as: "Mk2 Escort Super Sedan 0-6000cc. 3.4 Cosworth 4 valve, 440bhp engine. 5 speed ZF.HD gearbox. Atlas rear end, fully floating axles. 11" vented discs with 4 potters all round. 15" wheels. Zakspeed guards. Will split up. $14,000". The contact for the ad was Dave Honore.

The ShellSport signage on the door suggests it to be around 1977, but I could be wrong, but it wouldn't have raced in the 2 litre ShellSport series (from 1978) with the Cosworth motor obviously. So where did it come from and where did it go? Certainly has some exotic parts in it. I did wonder if maybe the running gear was taken from the Halliday Capri when Danny Lupp fitted with car with a Jag V12, but I spoke to John Osborne about this car from when he raced it, and he said it was still fitted with the Atlas rear the Hallidays had imported when he owned it and it burnt to the ground.

Maybe Bob Homewood knows something? Bob?

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[bob homewood]

Ok, I checked with Rob Halliday ( we have been friends since the late 60's ) today to make sure what I thought was correct ,This is a photo of their Shellsport 2 litre Escort that they ran in Shellsport for a little while .I remember this car as they used 4 x Delorto motor cycle carburetors ,which was a good way of getting around the 36mm choke rule that Shellsport had ,these carbs were of benefit as they had no internal restriction other than the butterfliys
I am not able to help with what happened to it or where it went to. I can remember the car in this guise ,I can't remember one with the GAA in it ,but will check further with Rob when we catch up in person

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Bob, thats very interesting. Here is the ad which I scanned from an old race mag. I'd scanned it some time back so would need to go back through my mags to check when the ad was posted. Could the Hallidays have bought the car off David Honore as a roller and run it in ShellSport?

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[bob homewood]

Not sure but if you can sit tight for a couple of days Rob is comming into work and I will produce the evidence we have here so as to speak and see what he says
Actually it would make a good topic on here ,some of the cars that happened and never raced or the ones that nearly happened ,maybe you could word it correctly and kick it off

[Steve Holmes]

Good thinking Bob, and maybe we need to start a Racing Cars Missing In Action thread?

[Steve Holmes]

Grant Brennans V8 Escort

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[Steve Holmes]

This is the old Spinner Black/Rod Coppins Camaro, here owned (I think) by Bruce Jenner. This shot was taken at the PDL team workshop where Rick Deihl was carrying out a number of rollcage and front suspension modifications.

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[Andy]

Nick Whiting was always the person to beat in Special/Super Saloons. He had a garage only a few minutes from Brands Hatch in a small village called West Kingsdown.
Charlie Whiting (the F1 Race Director) was Nick Whiting's brother.
Nick was always very quick, his cars were always immaculate and reliable.
The Escort pictured was powered by a 1970cc FVC engine.The year is 1975. 209

[Steve Holmes]

Fantastic Andy! 1970cc is large for an FVC too. Must have produced a phenominal soundtrack. Do you know if the car still exists?

[Greg Stokes]

Where is the Brennan V8 Escort now? Also that shot of the Spinner Black Camaro - what a neat shot! Under construction and looking like it could have been in LA or something like that.....

[Steve Holmes]

Greg, the Brennan Escort has been owned by Robert Jack for several years now. Its painted white now. It appeared at the Amon Festival in January.

[Greg Stokes]

Oh yes I recall seeing it and it is still impressive

[Andy]

Fantastic Andy! 1970cc is large for an FVC too. Must have produced a phenominal soundtrack. Do you know if the car still exists?
I don't know, I looked into it a bit further. I saw John Kirk racing the MK2 Escort GA so I presumed Nick had sold that. If you go on the web, there's quite a bit about Nick.
Andy.

[Steve Holmes]

I don't know, I looked into it a bit further. I saw John Kirk racing the MK2 Escort GA so I presumed Nick had sold that. If you go on the web, there's quite a bit about Nick.
Andy.

Thanks Andy, do you have any pics of the Ian Richardson Corvair? Can you recall when this car first appeared? There was a similar one that raced in Australia (as pictured above) which debuted in 1975, and I'd wondered if it had been inspired by the Richardson car.

[kiwi285]

Steve, What engine is the car running now ?? I must have a look through my photos to see if I captured it.

[Steve Holmes]

Is this the Brennan Escort Mike? It'd be a small block Chevy. I assume Brennan built the engine, but don't know for sure. Would be great if you did have some pics of the car, I don't think there were a lot taken of it as Brennan soon replaced it with a V8 RX7.

[Andy]

Hi, I think from memory the Corvair was built around 1974/75 (see 10tenths Special/Supersaloon thread). This photo was taken at the German Grp 5 (Zakspeed Capris etc) meeting at Donington Park in 1979/80. I'm not sure who was driving.
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[Steve Holmes]

That thing is sensational, look at the rear spoiler on it! Do you know if its survived Andy? Because so many of these cars were based on F5000 and/or F1 components, the survival rate is low because many have since been stripped to aid the restoration of F5000/ and F1 cars in recent years. Good to see a few of the British Super Saloons being rediscovered and restored, including Tony Hazlewoods incredible V8 DAF.

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[foggy]

Anyone know the fate of the Grant King/Art McKee Monza? Any other Monza info/photos/whereabouts of cars/parts appreciated.... my next project :)

[Steve Holmes]

The King built Monza raced here briefly by Art McKee was sold to Australia after the 1977 racing season foggy. Its currently being restored to its original guise/colour scheme. The Dawson Monza DeKon 1001 also went to Aus, and has been chopped and changed quite a lot over the years. Only a very few people know its current whereabouts.

I'm sure there was one other Monza that was raced in NZ during the 80s, in Sports Sedans. A red one? But I don't know much about it. Bob Homewood might know more.

There were several built for Sports Sedan racing in Australia during the 70s and 80s. Some still exist, others (like the Bob Jane/Bryan Thomson car) were used to build new cars.

[foggy]

The red one you mention was I think raced by John Learmonth (?spelling) in fact he may still have it, and there is another more standard one being raced in production muscle cars. There is a genuine DeKon one for sale at the moment in the states... no price... !!!!!

[Steve Holmes]

Yeah I'm sure thats the one foggy. Do you know much about it? The prod muscle one you mentioned is probably this one? http://www.productionmusclecar.co.nz/uploads/file/lance_humphreys(2).pdf

The genuine DeKons go for big money these days, they only built a handful of them.

[timbo61]

The PDL Mustang as it is these days. Still looking and sounding great.

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[Steve Holmes]

I'm glad they put the high wing back on PDL II. looks much better with it. And historically its correct to run the car with the wing because its always maintained the later deep splitter at the front which was made for the early 1979 Open Saloons series, when the rear wing was added (off their McLaren M10).

[Rod Grimwood]

The younger Algie built a Monza (brown in colour) with all the gear, it was a pretty car and went quite well. He only raced a couple of times. This was around the time when Barry built his Monaro mid 80s.

[Steve Holmes]

Is there supposed to be a photo attached to your post Rod?

[Rod Grimwood]

No I think i willhave to resize photos. (when i know how) I was going to post photo on other thread with mustang.

[Steve Holmes]

Would really like to see a photo of the Algie Monza if you have one Rod. Email me if you need to and I can re-size it so you can post it.

[Jac Mac]

One snippet of info on this car I know of, when it first appeared here in NZ it was fitted with a very well built 327ci motor, this was sold to Gary Jenkins who owned the ex Alec Dickie Victor Chev at the time.

[thunder427]

A new coat of paint and correct Monza rear sheet metal didn't improve the situation.

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Art Mkee/Crown Motor Court Fame,Grant King Monza.........A little history!!!:p

While we were building the first variation of the Bob Jane Monza (think Channel 10 look !),which 'was' a Dekon frame/chassie, not number, as it was built as a 'spare' for an American Racer, Brad Frazzel (Spelling may be incorrect!) whom had ambitions to race at Le Mans,which he did in a Monza

John Pollard whom had previously purchased the Ex 'Castrol' Camaro/Frank Gardner, raced in the Uk/Europe/New Zealand/Australia.... (White with Red nose/picture in Bay Park Thread!)..From Bob Jane, who had had it stashed in a Warehouse behind the 'Gray St' race shop, was hanging out at our 'race shop' ,snopping around the Monza Concept as he had had John Sheperd ( HDT fame!) totally re build the 67/68 Camaro into a 'Sports Sedan,stunning looking Camaro,Red with 'Motion Performance' style, white side Flash and bum.....but these cars were just about out of date to the Monza/Corvair thinking:cool:

So!!...I subjested that my friend in NZ,Art Mckee was considering selling his Bud King Monza....."Bullshit!!...."Why would I tell you if he Wasn't"!!!!..Now I'm in striff at to levels..Level one,Pat Purcell is dark on me as the Mckee Monza is Finished..."why did you have to tell him that"!!!!!........2nd Level,John wants to do it NOW!!!.."Lets get on a Plane"!!........."Nahhhh!! I'll just ring Art and give you an intro,thats how us 'Kiwi's do business"!!!......Phone call to the 'unflappable' Art..John's on an Air new Zealand Flight,Job's done!!...come to think of it, Ive never taken Art up on that 'steak dinner' with lots 'Burbon' mouth wash, if the deal went thru....Plenty of time!!:cool:

That Monza is now in a Million Pieces ('could be For Sale'??) in the Hands a Rowan Harmon,a very imformative person re the history of Sports Sedans/Oz Nascar/The Sport in General, Will insist that he joins THE ROARING SEASONS forum,you will like this guy!:D

Now where was I..?.....Oh!!,The Blue Mustang#37..Driver/owner,Graeme Whincup (Triple8/Jamie's Uncle!) that was a genuine 'Shelby.R coded car,the guy sitting in the Door way is the 'famous',Mick Webb ('Spiderman/Mechanic for Moffat, Falcons/RX7 years!)...the guy with the 'Fashionable Flares Is "Dazzling',Darryl Sydall,whom imported American cars in to Australia,the70's,was responsible for obtaining the Mustang for Graeme...(this car went best when it was powered by a Chev!!!)...many years later it was rescued from a 'scrap/wrecking yard QLD,as a gutted out Shell and is now fully restored...I believe,now stationed in the lovely Tasmania..'The Apple Isle'............that will do for now,the 'brain' is about to shut down!!..........regards thunder427/MJ:).

[Ellis]

Edmondson Alfa....@ Symmons Plains Tas
Photog Not Known
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[Ellis]

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Now where was I..?.....Oh!!,The Blue Mustang#37..Driver/owner,Graeme Whincup (Triple8/Jamie's Uncle!) that was a genuine 'Shelby.R coded car,the guy sitting in the Door way is the 'famous',Mick Webb ('Spiderman/Mechanic for Moffat, Falcons/RX7 years!)...the guy with the 'Fashionable Flares Is "Dazzling',Darryl Sydall,whom imported American cars in to Australia,the70's,was responsible for obtaining the Mustang for Graeme...(this car went best when it was powered by a Chev!!!)...many years later it was rescued from a 'scrap/wrecking yard QLD,as a gutted out Shell and is now fully restored...I believe,now stationed in the lovely Tasmania..'The Apple Isle'............that will do for now,the 'brain' is about to shut down!!..........regards thunder427/MJ:).

Thanks Myles for that confirmation. I seen the Shelby in Tas at the Museum a couple of years ago but the sign on it didnt elaborate too much on its racing history. I often thought it may be the same car as #37.
Ellis

[aussiemonza]

The King built Monza raced here briefly by Art McKee was sold to Australia after the 1977 racing season foggy. Its currently being restored to its original guise/colour scheme. The Dawson Monza DeKon 1001 also went to Aus, and has been chopped and changed quite a lot over the years. Only a very few people know its current whereabouts.

I'm sure there was one other Monza that was raced in NZ during the 80s, in Sports Sedans. A red one? But I don't know much about it. Bob Homewood might know more.

There were several built for Sports Sedan racing in Australia during the 70s and 80s. Some still exist, others (like the Bob Jane/Bryan Thomson car) were used to build new cars.

I am thinking the "Red Monza" may have been the Whincup "Rotex/Essellte" car? The Bob Jane Monza was rebuilt as a Toyota Supra by Bryan Thompson and is now in the hands of Des Wall. Des is being hammered by many, including myself, to resto it back to the Monza.

I had the Whincup Monza until early this year, Tony Edwards is the proud new owner and will get into the project soon.

[aussiemonza]

Art Mkee/Crown Motor Court Fame,Bud King Monza.........A little history!!!:p

While we were building the first variation of the Bob Jane Monza (think Channel 10 look !),which 'was' a Dekon frame/chassie, not number, as it was built as a 'spare' for an American Racer, Brad Frazzel (Spelling may be incorrect!) whom had ambitions to race at Le Mans,which he did in a Monza.

That Monza is now in a Million Pieces ('could be For Sale'??) in the Hands a Rowan Harmon,a very imformative person re the history of Sports Sedans/Oz Nascar/The Sport in General, Will insist that he joins THE ROARING SEASONS forum,you will like this guy!:D





The BJ chassis was a DeKon style copy built by Brad.

Already on here Thunder. The Monza is not in "a million pieces", it is in 832 pieces!!! Its not for sale.

[Steve Holmes]

Art Mkee/Crown Motor Court Fame,Grant King Monza.........A little history!!!:p

While we were building the first variation of the Bob Jane Monza (think Channel 10 look !),which 'was' a Dekon frame/chassie, not number, as it was built as a 'spare' for an American Racer, Brad Frazzel (Spelling may be incorrect!) whom had ambitions to race at Le Mans,which he did in a Monza

John Pollard whom had previously purchased the Ex 'Castrol' Camaro/Frank Gardner, raced in the Uk/Europe/New Zealand/Australia.... (White with Red nose/picture in Bay Park Thread!)..From Bob Jane, who had had it stashed in a Warehouse behind the 'Gray St' race shop, was hanging out at our 'race shop' ,snopping around the Monza Concept as he had had John Sheperd ( HDT fame!) totally re build the 67/68 Camaro into a 'Sports Sedan,stunning looking Camaro,Red with 'Motion Performance' style, white side Flash and bum.....but these cars were just about out of date to the Monza/Corvair thinking:cool:

So!!...I subjested that my friend in NZ,Art Mckee was considering selling his Bud King Monza....."Bullshit!!...."Why would I tell you if he Wasn't"!!!!..Now I'm in striff at to levels..Level one,Pat Purcell is dark on me as the Mckee Monza is Finished..."why did you have to tell him that"!!!!!........2nd Level,John wants to do it NOW!!!.."Lets get on a Plane"!!........."Nahhhh!! I'll just ring Art and give you an intro,thats how us 'Kiwi's do business"!!!......Phone call to the 'unflappable' Art..John's on an Air new Zealand Flight,Job's done!!...come to think of it, Ive never taken Art up on that 'steak dinner' with lots 'Burbon' mouth wash, if the deal went thru....Plenty of time!!:cool:

That Monza is now in a Million Pieces ('could be For Sale'??) in the Hands a Rowan Harmon,a very imformative person re the history of Sports Sedans/Oz Nascar/The Sport in General, Will insist that he joins THE ROARING SEASONS forum,you will like this guy!:D

Now where was I..?.....Oh!!,The Blue Mustang#37..Driver/owner,Graeme Whincup (Triple8/Jamie's Uncle!) that was a genuine 'Shelby.R coded car,the guy sitting in the Door way is the 'famous',Mick Webb ('Spiderman/Mechanic for Moffat, Falcons/RX7 years!)...the guy with the 'Fashionable Flares Is "Dazzling',Darryl Sydall,whom imported American cars in to Australia,the70's,was responsible for obtaining the Mustang for Graeme...(this car went best when it was powered by a Chev!!!)...many years later it was rescued from a 'scrap/wrecking yard QLD,as a gutted out Shell and is now fully restored...I believe,now stationed in the lovely Tasmania..'The Apple Isle'............that will do for now,the 'brain' is about to shut down!!..........regards thunder427/MJ:).

Thats great info Myles.

[Steve Holmes]

I am thinking the "Red Monza" may have been the Whincup "Rotex/Essellte" car? The Bob Jane Monza was rebuilt as a Toyota Supra by Bryan Thompson and is now in the hands of Des Wall. Des is being hammered by many, including myself, to resto it back to the Monza.

I had the Whincup Monza until early this year, Tony Edwards is the proud new owner and will get into the project soon.

Great to have your input here Rowan.

Is that the same Tony Edwards who has run the HQ Monaro in the TCM the last few seasons? He debuted a Torana this year.

[Steve Holmes]

The younger Algie built a Monza (brown in colour) with all the gear, it was a pretty car and went quite well. He only raced a couple of times. This was around the time when Barry built his Monaro mid 80s.

Did you manage to find a photo of this car Rod?

[Rod Grimwood]

Not at moment but have contacts looking.

[thunder427]

A couple of pics that should slot in here ok....
Photo Credits...Perry Drury Launceston Tas

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Had morning coffee With Graemme the Whincup Friday,introduced him to our new forum,which he passed along to WA based John Pollard and to Dazzling Darrall Sydall,who has the 'Broken Ankle' (Too old to be climbing ladders..but I've said it before ..("you can Always tell Darrall,but you can't tell him much"!!!)...

Graeme spotted the late John 'Ando' Anderson working on the Corvair...John was responsible for a large amount of work/maintance on The Jum Ruchards Falcon 'Sports Sedan' and his Falcon 'Touring Car'..John was a real gentle giant,named his Melbourne based business..Trackside Services..Commonly known as 'backside' services....none of us had any money..John would ring me up to go out to his shop at Calder Park to carry out some 'fibreglass work..."Hey Smyles if you comming out can you bring me a pkt fags,oh!! and how about some milk for the coffee,which reminds me we're shit out of coffee..look a large bottle of 'Coke' should see us through..well if you going to come out that late you may as well spring for 'fush and chups!!!!!!!!!!!...I was usually good for it as I was on the Bob pay roll and I had to eat as well !!.........real talented guy,did extremly well in the USA......truly Missed by so many.......Ando!/RIP

.....regards thunder427/MJ

[Steve Holmes]

I'm hoping you or Rowan can fill in the details and histories etc of the Australian Monza's in the Monza thread just started Myles: http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?128-Chevy-Monza-Histories-And-Photos

There must have been nearly as many raced in Australia as there were in the US?

[timbo61]

I am thinking the "Red Monza" may have been the Whincup "Rotex/Essellte" car? The Bob Jane Monza was rebuilt as a Toyota Supra by Bryan Thompson and is now in the hands of Des Wall. Des is being hammered by many, including myself, to resto it back to the Monza.

I had the Whincup Monza until early this year, Tony Edwards is the proud new owner and will get into the project soon.

The Whincup Monza, sorry but I know nothing of its history.
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[nigel watts]

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[Shano]

Very nice images there.

[Steve Holmes]

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Is anyone aware if the Stewart family collection was damaged in the quakes?

[105angria]

Lusted after Bob Stewarts mustard Gordon Kebble for years. Rob Bartleys OSCA Cortina

[Steve Holmes]

Thats a car that came and went very quickly and never lived up to its potential. I think Bruce Robertson might have had some involvement with it too. Bruce was a very successful stockcar driver for many years, and raced the first Tank. He is now the promoter for the Palmerston North Speedway.

[nigel watts]

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[Rod Grimwood]

this was another interesting short lived project

[Rod Grimwood]

Rotorua built and still around down south way i believe.

[Rod Grimwood]

Good old days at Taupo. The original track. Jones Commodore, Brennan Escort and Willis Mazda. All Chev powered. Good racing.

[Steve Holmes]

Hey Rod, this last batch is fantastic! Do you have any more of Brennans Escort?

[Steve Holmes]

The Lancaster Volvo had some European history to it didn't it? What happened to this car? Seemed to have come and gone pretty quickly.

[timbo61]

A few random photo's of 1980's Aust. Sports Sedans.

Bob Jolly, Barry Jameson and Mike Ceveri crossing the finish line at a Bathurst 1000 support race.
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Peter O'Brien spinning at Oran Park
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Start of a race at Sandown.
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Mal Rose leading Neil Crompton off the line at Amaroo Park. Neil used Mike Griffins RX7 to get his racing licence.
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The run into the first corner at a Reverse Direction meeting at Oran Park.
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[Steve Holmes]

More great photos Timbo. What ever happened to the Mike Ceveri Chevy V8 Sierra? That car started life as one of the two OXO Supercube Group A cars in 1987, and was rolled, before it was re-appeared as Ceveri's Sports Sedan.

[timbo61]

Mike Ceveri's Sierra is still alive and well, and up for sale if your interested.

http://www.my105.com/2429

[Steve Holmes]

Wow, look at that. it looks just like it did 20 years ago. Thanks for the link.

[Munty]

The Lancaster Volvo had some European history to it didn't it? What happened to this car? Seemed to have come and gone pretty quickly.

The Lancaster Volvo came south with Wayne Ross and was then sold to Dave Agnew who basically built a space frame car with later model Volvo body and using the engine and box etc. The car won the GT3 title (old B class) a number of times.

[bob homewood]

1554

Good old Escort wheel lifting shot,thanks to Spears for this one

[Steve Holmes]

I met the owner of this car recently Bob. He gave me his card, but now I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have a contact for him? He flew over from the UK to race the car at Hampton Downs, and is very enthusiastic about it. I'm sure he'd enjoy this site.

[105angria]

Some shots of Eric Jordan in the day car changed colour a few times and had a different or new sponsor every race i like the beverage no breathtesting in those days

[TonyG]

Not very good shots but history never the less

Dawson Monza
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Francevic Sierra
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Jenny Mossman Commodore
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Leo Leonard
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[TonyG]

Keiran Wills
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Jack Nazer/Grant Walker
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Leonard/McCormack
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Mark Rutherford Escort
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[TonyG]

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Maybe wrong post but a great car
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[TonyG]

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[TonyG]

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[TonyG]

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[Rod Grimwood]

Great photos Tony, Unreal. the Pink and White commodore is a Mossman but is Jenny, she was a very good peddler. The car was actually one of the cars that Lindsay Willis built, I think this one was originally for Toms but Jenny ended up with it. Not sure but it may be the same car that Mack Workman ran later.

[TonyG]

Thanks Rod. Corrected the name in earlier post. Now that you mention Jenny Mossman it all comes back. Yes she was a very capable steerer indeed.
Any idea who ran the Mazda in post 72 pic 4. I can not remember for the life of me. I guess beauty was in the eye of the beholder with that one.

[rogered]

Great photos Tony, Unreal. the Pink and White commodore is a Mossman but is Jenny, she was a very good peddler. The car was actually one of the cars that Lindsay Willis built, I think this one was originally for Toms but Jenny ended up with it. Not sure but it may be the same car that Mack Workman ran later.

Isnt that bretts old commodore?

[Steve Holmes]

Wow! These are absolutely magic! Thanks Tony. I never get tired of seeing these types of cars.

Whose is the black #98 Viva in post 74?

[Steve Holmes]

Nice shot there of Jim Short's Porsche. I just love the PDL II and Dawson Monza.

[TonyG]

Wow! These are absolutely magic! Thanks Tony. I never get tired of seeing these types of cars.

Whose is the black #98 Viva in post 74?

Thought it may have been Ralph Mossmans.

[Munty]

Hi TonyG, I'm organising a big photo slideshow for the OSCA 40th reunion in Nov so if you can send me any of the photos you have like above with the OSCA fellas in them that would be awesome. My email is evanmunt@hotmail.com very much appreciated if you can.
Cheers Munty

[kiwi285]

Hi Tony, Again some fantastic shots of really great cars. To see some of those cars back on track would be tremendous. I understand that the Addis Charger is currently being put back together.
I am really looking forward to the OSCA 40th reunion meeting in November.

[TonyG]

Thought it may have been Ralph Mossmans.

Yep definitely Ralph Mossman. Just found another shot that I had the name written on the back of with the car in a different paint scheme. Will post more photos shortly. Some were water damaged unfortunately and others were a little faded so I turned them black and white to retain the image.

[TonyG]

Hi TonyG, I'm organising a big photo slideshow for the OSCA 40th reunion in Nov so if you can send me any of the photos you have like above with the OSCA fellas in them that would be awesome. My email is evanmunt@hotmail.com very much appreciated if you can.
Cheers Munty
Hi Evan;
Not a problem. I will start sending them through tomorrow. Not sure how many I can send in one hit but I guess we will find out lol. Just found a whole heap you will like. You may be able to ID some that I cant remember.

[TonyG]

Peter Meadows Corvette - does it still exist ?
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[TonyG]

Rob Kennard - Cortina
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John Osborne - Capri
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John Osborne - Mazda
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Unknown Mustang ?
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[TonyG]

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Ian Algie Alfetta
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Reverse Grid Start
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[TonyG]

Jack Nazer
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Ralph Mossman Viva
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[TonyG]

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Rod McElrea
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Lawrence Bruce
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Lawrence Bruce
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[TonyG]

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Brett Willis
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[TonyG]

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Steve Vigurs Commodore Chev
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[TonyG]

Greg Lancaster Victor
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Trevor Crowe
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Thats it no more

[TonyG]

Hi Tony, Again some fantastic shots of really great cars. To see some of those cars back on track would be tremendous. I understand that the Addis Charger is currently being put back together.
I am really looking forward to the OSCA 40th reunion meeting in November.

Make sure you take lots of pictures lol

[bigbanger]

The # 32 Mustang was Rob Kennard. The car was the former Bob Slade car which Rob raced prior to building the Cortina Ford V8.

[TonyG]

The # 32 Mustang was Rob Kennard. The car was the former Bob Slade car which Rob raced prior to building the Cortina Ford V8.

Ahh thank you. Now I will sleep tonight.lol.

[Rod Grimwood]

Isnt that bretts old commodore?

No its another car that they built for Chris Toms and then it Jenny had it.

[Rod Grimwood]

Those are real good memory jerkers Tony. Great photos.

[Munty]

Thanks Tony, Im only a young fella but do remember alot of the old OSCA cars. :)

[TonyG]

Thanks Tony, Im only a young fella but do remember alot of the old OSCA cars. :)

They are not something you can forget in a hurry. Good stuff.

[Kiwiboss]

[QUOTE=TonyG;4139]Peter Meadows Corvette - does it still exist ?
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I believe not!! back in about 96 i bought the complete diff, disc to disc out of this car and fitted it to the Hoffman Mustang when i built it as it was a full floater, and its still in there!! i purchased it from Duncan Fox when he was still at Buckland Beach, he said the bare frame was in a towing yard not far way, i drove past and can remember looking thought the yard(as i drove past) and could see the skeleton of a corvette with "Meadows" above the screen!! and even thats more than i wanted to know back then!!

Hope this helps

Dale Mathers

[Kiwiboss]

The # 32 Mustang was Rob Kennard. The car was the former Bob Slade car which Rob raced prior to building the Cortina Ford V8.

The Bob Kennard/Slade Mustang was infact a genuine 1967 Shelby Trans Am Mustang Coupe that they only made 27 off!! was bought into NZ by Bob Kennent, Palmerston North in a deal with Dexter Dunlop, the car had unque US Trans Am race history, i can remember it advertised in the NZ hotrod magazine around the mid 80's? for $1800, no motor and box(it prevously had a mid mount BB chev)in Christchurch, Gary Doyle, Palmerston North bought it and semi restored it and raced at several classic events back then!! it was bought by the Bowdens in Austraila back around 96? and they've restored it back to its USA Trans Am spec's and still own it, talk about a life!!

Dale Mathers

[TonyG]

To Quote Dan Bowden when I enquired as to its hitory - Bob Egan bought and raced it from Shelby, then Bob Kennent bought and raced it in the USA trans am series as well before taking it to NZ and selling it on to Dexter Dunlop.

[Kiwiboss]

To Quote Dan Bowden when I enquired as to its hitory - Bob Egan bought and raced it from Shelby, then Bob Kennent bought and raced it in the USA trans am series as well before taking it to NZ and selling it on to Dexter Dunlop.

Correct TonyG. Must be something about Bob's and Rob's with this Mustang!! LOL

Dale Mathers

[Jac Mac]

To Quote Dan Bowden when I enquired as to its hitory - Bob Egan bought and raced it from Shelby, then Bob Kennent bought and raced it in the USA trans am series as well before taking it to NZ and selling it on to Dexter Dunlop.
So is this the same ex Dexter Dunlop Mustang that Kevin Haig, Lawrie Bruce, Christie Morris, & Brent Hamilton raced at times in OSCA prior to Bob Slade & Rob Kennard also doing the same.

[Munty]

McElrea says you got that right Jac!

[nzboss]

A lot of history and a whole lot of memories to this car!

[Kiwiboss]

McElrea says you got that right Jac!

The McElrea Mustang was the ex Fahey Mustang coupe, which was also a Factory Trans Am Shelby but a 1966 model, that the Bowdens also own!! I believe it was soo bad after all its racing years and mods that John Chapman rebodied it when it was in his hands, you just gotta luv the NZ history of these cars, and very rare vehicles as well!!!

Dale Mathers

[Jac Mac]

McElrea says you got that right Jac!
Thats good Evan, was starting to think there might be a 'Fake' out there somewhere, I remember looking hard at this car when either Lawrie or someone in a car yard out Ferry road had it for sale as a roller, but I came to the conclusion that the Cortina was lighter etc, & hey like everyone I was a Racer back then, not into restoration etc, Just looking at a pic of it with the Chilli Bins advertising when Christie Morris had it, I assume that as he worked @ PDL car sales it 'acquired' the same front flares as PDL1 along with the rear guards & Front Air Dam as it did not have them when Lawrie Bruce drove it. Now if I could only find Woodsies old Mustang A grade Saloon that would be a find...nah scratch that,...tooo much work. Got enough to finish now.

[Steve Holmes]

TonyG, these are wonderful photos! Boy, some incredible cars in this lot. I'm quite impressed by the quality of the Morris Marina. That is a nicely turned out car.

The Lawrence Bruce Camaro is the old Red Dawson car, still going strong. The #12 Mustang is George Shewiery in the old Sidchrome car. Isn't it cool to see some of these cars in their later years. Trevor Crowe's own driving abilities are one of the reasons for his two Starkets being so quick. This is demonstrated by his high speed drift in the Zap car. That must have been hard to do in a car with such a short wheelbase.

[Steve Holmes]

Thats good Evan, was starting to think there might be a 'Fake' out there somewhere, I remember looking hard at this car when either Lawrie or someone in a car yard out Ferry road had it for sale as a roller, but I came to the conclusion that the Cortina was lighter etc, & hey like everyone I was a Racer back then, not into restoration etc, Just looking at a pic of it with the Chilli Bins advertising when Christie Morris had it, I assume that as he worked @ PDL car sales it 'acquired' the same front flares as PDL1 along with the rear guards & Front Air Dam as it did not have them when Lawrie Bruce drove it. Now if I could only find Woodsies old Mustang A grade Saloon that would be a find...nah scratch that,...tooo much work. Got enough to finish now.

Interesting you noted the front flares on the Mustang. Several cars ended up with a set of flares from these molds, including the Bellis Cortina, the Jenner Camaro, and (I think) Nazer Victor.

Which Cortina did you own Jac?

[Steve Holmes]

Who styled the flares on the McElrea Cortina? The flares on this car always looked good, and overall this was one of the nicer proportioned cars of the era.

[Steve Holmes]

Did Steve Vigurs race that Commodore before or after he built his V8 Celeste?

[TonyG]

Did Steve Vigurs race that Commodore before or after he built his V8 Celeste?

I assume before, I only heard about the Celeste after I left NZ.

I will see if I can catch up with Ross and Jimmy Stone while I am still on holiday. They are only just up the road and I will ask Jimmy about the Miss Victorious front guards. I remember him fabricating lots of it when my older brother and I hung out at the garage in Tuakau on weekends with them. I will ask what happened to the Gedore Escort and the Cudas too ! Its about time I caught up with them again. Been too long especially when they are only 15 minutes away.

[rogered]

celeste, then the commodore

Did Steve Vigurs race that Commodore before or after he built his V8 Celeste?

[Jac Mac]

Who styled the flares on the McElrea Cortina? The flares on this car always looked good, and overall this was one of the nicer proportioned cars of the era.
I did, I built the car literally from the ground up starting in 77 or whenever the MKIV Cortina was introduced. I borrowed the W/Shop manuals off Dennis Latty @ Latty Ford , Gore. & compared the floorpan info for MK3/MKIV, they are/were both the same, then obtained a MK3 shell & removed all that was not compatible with MKIV from it, around the same time a local Vet rolled his new MKIV which was written off due to excessive panel damage & I got most of what was good of the shell & bought new roof, rear guards etc to make up balance of shell, the guards/flares you mention were made by bringing out the original arch & filling in the gaps etc then pulling a set of molds off that... molds were made in such manner that the LF could be adapted & used on RR & vice versa so I only needed two molds. Doors were made from alloy & I must confess to a minor stuff up in that dept, I did not look closely enough @ the MKIV & ended up with a bit of a 'dip' @ the B pillar rather than the straight thru of the MKIV. made mold for hood/bonnet with scoop & rolled up alloy boot lid. Same Boss 302/trans/diff from my earlier MK2 Cortina was used in this car as well.

[Steve Holmes]

Hey thats great Jac! Thanks for that info, its brilliant to be able to fill in these gaps. I always liked that car. It must have been one of the last cars Rod raced? Didn't the car appear at an event fitted with a drag motor? Would you happen to have any photos of it yourself? Who owns this car now?

[Steve Holmes]

Thats good Evan, was starting to think there might be a 'Fake' out there somewhere, I remember looking hard at this car when either Lawrie or someone in a car yard out Ferry road had it for sale as a roller, but I came to the conclusion that the Cortina was lighter etc, & hey like everyone I was a Racer back then, not into restoration etc, Just looking at a pic of it with the Chilli Bins advertising when Christie Morris had it, I assume that as he worked @ PDL car sales it 'acquired' the same front flares as PDL1 along with the rear guards & Front Air Dam as it did not have them when Lawrie Bruce drove it. Now if I could only find Woodsies old Mustang A grade Saloon that would be a find...nah scratch that,...tooo much work. Got enough to finish now.

Re the Mustang speedway car, Bruce Boulton bought that car in the 90s, raced it as a 66 Mustang for a short time, then cut the body off and fitted a modern Mustang body. The Woods 66 fastback body was then buried in one of the Boultons farm paddocks. Too bad really, it was a genuine steel '66 fastback and a neat piece of speedway history that had somehow survived the 70s. There is a picture of the car when Bruce Bolton had it here: http://www.boultonracing.com/

Click on 'History', then '881 Bruce Boulton'.

[Jac Mac]

Hey thats great Jac! Thanks for that info, its brilliant to be able to fill in these gaps. I always liked that car. It must have been one of the last cars Rod raced? Didn't the car appear at an event fitted with a drag motor? Would you happen to have any photos of it yourself? Who owns this car now?
The MKIV car is now owned by Anthony Prendergast-Ashburton- he also has my other MK2 Cortina car which he & Herbie Hayward? have rebuilt & I believe now have running for the OSCA 40th. Anthony currently has my photo album etc with old pics of both cars which as yet I have not picked up & since he now has the MKIV he might want for a bit longer. Dont know about the 'Drag Motor' that Rod may have used, but with Murray Baker/Ron Collet doing most of the engine work for Rod its possible that might have been the case. Rod was one of the 'original' HQ holden racers after OSCA & I also remember him pairing up with Steve Vigurs in a OSCA Capri for one of the Southern 200 races, unfortunately they were soundly beaten by a couple of other OSCA racers.

[Jac Mac]

Re the Mustang speedway car, Bruce Boulton bought that car in the 90s, raced it as a 66 Mustang for a short time, then cut the body off and fitted a modern Mustang body. The Woods 66 fastback body was then buried in one of the Boultons farm paddocks. Too bad really, it was a genuine steel '66 fastback and a neat piece of speedway history that had somehow survived the 70s. There is a picture of the car when Bruce Bolton had it here: http://www.boultonracing.com/

Click on 'History', then '881 Bruce Boulton'.

This will get the excavators out then.... Woodsies Mustang was made from a GT Fastback that had spun out & rear ended a powerpole or tree. Now in order to build the car Woody found another fastback in the States which he cut in half & brought the rear half back with which to rebuild the shell, just in case he needed it he brought the front half back the following year ( there was some import rule at the time about parts versus whole cars that made this necessary at the time )..... so what you say,... the 'CAR' that they cut in half in the states was a genuine Shelby GT350 Fastback , most of the interior was stripped etc, but it came with the Hi-Po 289 & Alloy sebring ratio T10, I dont think we ever had to replace the GT front with the Shelby front during Peters time with the car which would have effectively re-united the Shelby shell halves, but we modded the spring towers pickup points as per the Shelby front anyway.

[Steve Holmes]

The MKIV car is now owned by Anthony Prendergast-Ashburton- he also has my other MK2 Cortina car which he & Herbie Hayward? have rebuilt & I believe now have running for the OSCA 40th. Anthony currently has my photo album etc with old pics of both cars which as yet I have not picked up & since he now has the MKIV he might want for a bit longer. Dont know about the 'Drag Motor' that Rod may have used, but with Murray Baker/Ron Collet doing most of the engine work for Rod its possible that might have been the case. Rod was one of the 'original' HQ holden racers after OSCA & I also remember him pairing up with Steve Vigurs in a OSCA Capri for one of the Southern 200 races, unfortunately they were soundly beaten by a couple of other OSCA racers.

Thanks Jac, any chance we could get Anthony on here to share the restoration progress?

[Steve Holmes]

This will get the excavators out then.... Woodsies Mustang was made from a GT Fastback that had spun out & rear ended a powerpole or tree. Now in order to build the car Woody found another fastback in the States which he cut in half & brought the rear half back with which to rebuild the shell, just in case he needed it he brought the front half back the following year ( there was some import rule at the time about parts versus whole cars that made this necessary at the time )..... so what you say,... the 'CAR' that they cut in half in the states was a genuine Shelby GT350 Fastback , most of the interior was stripped etc, but it came with the Hi-Po 289 & Alloy sebring ratio T10, I dont think we ever had to replace the GT front with the Shelby front during Peters time with the car which would have effectively re-united the Shelby shell halves, but we modded the spring towers pickup points as per the Shelby front anyway.

Yeah I'd heard stories about a Shelby ending up on the speedway, wasn't sure how true they were. Its great you can confirm this. But yes, you're right, sounds like this is that car. Too bad the Boultons felt the need to bury it. They own a farm, so you wouldn't think they'd be short on space.

[Jac Mac]

Thanks Jac, any chance we could get Anthony on here to share the restoration progress?
Not sure that Anthony is into this internet thing, I dont have email contact info for him..{ sometimes doubt I should be with my typin skills:) } I was emailed a heap of pics of the MK2, went looking for them last night, but must have lost them somewhere, I will have a look in Donnas PC tonite in case I saved them there as this one was out of action for a bit.

Re- the stock car body, it would be a massive mission now & since any VIN #s would probably have been on the front half threfore you would have to track that down if it even still exists....not for me, I like the replica stuff these days, at least the 'new' steel etc might last a bit longer..

[Steve Holmes]

The speedway car would have only been any good being restored as the Woods speedway car. Way too far gone to ever be a road car again. But now its too far gone to even be restored as a historic speedway car. One of the Boultons told me a few years ago that some speedway historic enthusiasts tried to dig up the remains, but there wasn't really anything salvageable.

[Jizim]

The RX2 Mazda...(back on page 4 or 5 of this thread?...) belonged to Ross Morman. It had a small block chev in it....never really fired a shot. They always had a problem with it. Ross is currently owner/operater of the Shell Gas Station work shop at Kumeu. He worked for Gulf Mazda which was later to become North Shore Mazda. Rotary maestro Kevin Elmsley worked there since day one and still is as far as I know. (nicked named affectionately as Joe Ninety because of his close looks to the cartoon character...). And Jenny Mossman was a good fast racer in the days when it was a mans domain. She actually raced a Consul 315 that by memory had a 6 cylinder motor in it..(Holden?)...These were the days when Jim Short tried every trick in the book to beat me in my RX2 Mazda that had current registration and warrant of fitness....(spoke to Jim just two days ago when he rang me up for more driving tips...)... and I am sure he will be contibuting to this site after I burred him up!! Very nice guy that is Short by name and Shorter by nature! Kindest regards, Tony Rutherford.

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Tony. That V8 RX2 actually isn't a bad looking car, it just has a bit of a busy paint scheme. Do you know what happened to it?

The Mossman Consul is for sale, I think. I believe it is this car: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/auction-396640055.htm

[Rod Grimwood]

That modified VW of Jim's was pretty quick and he drove it well also. Now there is another gentleman of the sport.
Ross had a secret weapon with the Mazda V8, if you got too close or tried to pass he would eject a piece of the car into your path, usually a piece of exhaust or bit of front air dam, remember Osborne had just passed me on front straight of Puke when he came upon a piece of exhaust slidding down the track, he swerves a bit but goes over it and then it exits at speed of sound out side of his Mazda RX7/V8 and pass's some how across the front of my car, brake a bit and move and whats left of exhaust powers into pit wall and back across track behind me. I looked in mirror and there are cars going every way and tyres smoke all the drama so it was a pretty effective weapon as it most probably caught out five of the eight on the straight.

[Steve Holmes]

Ha ha ha ha ha, brilliant!

[Steve Holmes]

The RX2 Mazda...(back on page 4 or 5 of this thread?...) belonged to Ross Morman. It had a small block chev in it....never really fired a shot. They always had a problem with it. Ross is currently owner/operater of the Shell Gas Station work shop at Kumeu. He worked for Gulf Mazda which was later to become North Shore Mazda. Rotary maestro Kevin Elmsley worked there since day one and still is as far as I know. (nicked named affectionately as Joe Ninety because of his close looks to the cartoon character...). And Jenny Mossman was a good fast racer in the days when it was a mans domain. She actually raced a Consul 315 that by memory had a 6 cylinder motor in it..(Holden?)...These were the days when Jim Short tried every trick in the book to beat me in my RX2 Mazda that had current registration and warrant of fitness....(spoke to Jim just two days ago when he rang me up for more driving tips...)... and I am sure he will be contibuting to this site after I burred him up!! Very nice guy that is Short by name and Shorter by nature! Kindest regards, Tony Rutherford.

Jim is a member here, though mostly seems to lurk in the shadows.....

[Rod Grimwood]

Some things don't change Ah Steve. We need to put lights on and get rid of those shadows. Jim has a wealth of knowledge and in days gone past I would drop into the cycle and mower shop for a quick cuppa and then it was time to go home, another day of stressful work completed.

[AMCO72]

Right, I know Jim very well. We go back a long way.....Jaguar Drivers club etc.etc,etc, But I can tell you that Jim is a talker rather than a writer. Someone needs to sit Jim down and get him talking about 'the good ol' days' and I can guarantee you will have hours of stuff to sift through. We get together occasionally, he is back living in Tokoroa, me in Cambridge. We can have a good old yak about stuff that some fellas out there think they know about, but DON'T. Enough said. Anyway at the moment Jim is probably restoring his kitchen or his bathroom, instead of concentrating on the important things in life.......like Historic Motorsport.

[TonyG]

Thanks for that Tony. The pieces fit again. I could not remember for the life of me who raced that RX2 V8.

[Rod Grimwood]

AMCO72:- So right he sure loves a tongue wag and as i mentioned previously a real gentleman and sure has some knowledge stored up. I used to enjoy the company of Jim and his dry humour. I can imagine it would be a couple of packets of bikkies and a big pot of tea when you 2 get together. I would love to make contact with him again.

[Jizim]

AMCO72:- So right he sure loves a tongue wag and as i mentioned previously a real gentleman and sure has some knowledge stored up. I used to enjoy the company of Jim and his dry humour. I can imagine it would be a couple of packets of bikkies and a big pot of tea when you 2 get together. I would love to make contact with him again.
Come to my place Rod...I will bet he will be "lurking" in the background somewhere picking up driving tips etc... I too have just about finished my kitchen ( something very new to me)....I will move on to the bathroom when I fix the two leaks that have appeared out of nowhere ....I have extended an invitation to Jim to come and ride shot gun with me at any of the Puke or HD meets that arent National Championships....so I am hoping he will be about the tracks soon....

[TonyG]

Who was it that used to race a Mk3 Cortina with Coachman Steakhouse written on it ? It was red in colour from memory Was it Bruce Bellis ? or a name like that.
I had a B&W pic somewhere here of it along with another of the Rhubarb sportscar at Puke but do you think I can find them now that I want them Grrrr!!!

[kiwi285]

Hi Tony,

On the thread below there is a coloured photo of this car in the Coachmans Steakhouse colours.

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?86-Early-O.S.C.A-saloons-1971-75-era-any-pics-out-there-b-w-or-colour

[TonyG]

Hi Tony,

On the thread below there is a coloured photo of this car in the Coachmans Steakhouse colours.

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?86-Early-O.S.C.A-saloons-1971-75-era-any-pics-out-there-b-w-or-colour

Thanks Kiwi285

[Rod Grimwood]

Found this stacked away, love the angle.

[TonyG]

There were 3 Algie brothers, Ian with the Alfetta, Barry with the Orange Monaro and another younger? brother that had a brown Monza. Any idea if the Monza is still around ?
I also remember a car that I saw at Puke a couple of times, I think around the time of the Petch BP Sierra Sports Sedan that was a little Suzuki ? and it had a Motorbike engine in it. Was like a bullet down the back straight but it kept throwing the chain drive off especially as it came over the top of the hill. Sorry can't even remember the colour, just the car because it was different.

[Rod Grimwood]

The gentleman with the Suzuki was ..... Bish and he ran it at the original Taupo track and it was quick. It was white and green i know because I looked up the open Arse of it for a few laps. I think it had a genuine Yamaha race bike engine . A clever bit of work.

[Steve Holmes]

Yes thats right, 3 Algie brothers. I've still never seen the Monza. I wish someone could post some photos of it.

[rogered]

the monza was pretty much a road car but had the dekon body kit, and i think BBS wheels
Have a photo somewhere.
pretty sure its still around in the back of a shed, now painted red

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks, I'd love to see a photo. Am always interested in any Monza race car.

[bry3500]

Steve..speaking of dekon Monza's ...seen this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXs2nG3MP8YAussie John Sands Kremer Porsche pretty cool as well!!

[Steve Holmes]

Yeah its good isn't it. One of our members on here, Chad (OCTARD-USA) is in the blue DeKon Monza that appears in it a few times too.

[Steve Holmes]

This short piece of footage is pretty grotty, but still good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKokSE5Yve4&feature=related

[bry3500]

Hadn't seen that footage..is there an IMSA thread here somewhere

[Steve Holmes]

Its on the Chevy Monza thread bry: http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?128-Chevy-Monza-Histories-And-Photos

[TonyG]

The gentleman with the Suzuki was ..... Bish and he ran it at the original Taupo track and it was quick. It was white and green i know because I looked up the open Arse of it for a few laps. I think it had a genuine Yamaha race bike engine . A clever bit of work.

Thanks Rod. Yes white and green, thats it.

[bry3500]

Vauxhall Magnum with a 5340cc Aston Martin V8 engine, driven by John Pope, Croft Autodrome 15.05.77

[bry3500]

Ford Escort Mk I with a 4.7 litre V8 engine driven by Keith Bowmaker, Croft Autodrome 30.08.76.

[bry3500]

DFVW

[bry3500]

DFVW
The car was built by Colin Wilson who raced it to championship winning success in 76 and 77.
in the paddock at Brands Hatch

[bry3500]

Silverstone. 1975(ish)
Skoda John Turner leda F5000- based

[kiwi285]

Hell there are some mean looking machines there.

[bry3500]

Mike Berman – 3654cc V8 ‘Ford Berpop’ Ford Popular

[bry3500]

v8 DAF

[bry3500]

Nick Whitings 3.4 litre 440bhp mk 2 escort..

[bry3500]

peter thurstons mk1 escort

[bry3500]

Ford Falcon with a 4727cc engine driven by Malcolm Stevens, Croft Autodrome November 1976

[bry3500]

AET Engineering Skoda S110RS Turbo driven by Jim Evans, Croft Autodrome 1977
a rebuilt single seater with a Skoda body.

[bry3500]

no details on this one

[Jac Mac]

Might be Mick Hill? in the VW beetle

[Steve Holmes]

Hey Bry, thanks heaps for posting these. I LOVE '70s British Super Saloons. They were an incredible combination of sedan and single seater parts and technology, and the end results were amazingly creative. Not all of them worked well, but most were really interesting. The John Pope Magnum Aston Martin is one of my favourites, although I don't think this car achieved the results that were hoped for. Ian Richardson ran a Chevy V8 powered Corvair. Then there was the V8 DAF etc.

The survival rate of these cars is pretty low, as is any sedan based formula in which cars are built using parts scavenged from old single seaters. Eventually the single seaters gain value again with collectors, and the parts are taken back again from the sedans.

But there is a revival for these cars taking place, and a really good field was assembled at Mallory Park recently:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2z7-wuuWfo&feature=youtu.be

[bry3500]

Yes Steve - A great class of Racing with some GREAT cars. I know that this is a picture thread, but as you have posted a vid ,,i couldn't resist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuLB1hkSclc&feature=related

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFTBgnCanJo

[Steve Holmes]

Yes Steve - A great class of Racing with some GREAT cars. I know that this is a picture thread, but as you have posted a vid ,,i couldn't resist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuLB1hkSclc&feature=related

This is cool. I wish they could have held it a little longer so we could see it launch.

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GcMwxxNZS4

[Steve Holmes]

Brilliant. Thanks Bry. Just to confirm, that is the Mick Hill car as in the middle of the grid in post #162?

[bry3500]

Right ...thanks Steve - I was wondering

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t-Sedk6Wz0

[Steve Holmes]

There is some real quality in that field. A pair of BMW M1s, a couple of DRM BMWs. Looks like a couple of Camaros too and an IMSA RX7. Real eclectic mix. But I'm struggling to find out any info on it.

[bry3500]

Finnish Super Saloons I think Steve

[lee costello]

that is not peter thurston there thats maurice lyon in the mk1 there he is the guy who built it with barry costello
peter just had it from 1992-2009 he did very well in it but ran her down badly poor old girl was battered
maurice is at oulton park there racing in the northwest gt's
ive since rebuilt it an raced it check out www.allcarequipe.com
or lee costello racing on facebook

[bry3500]

Algie Afetta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z31NiRMqFG8

[Steve Holmes]

QUOTE=lee costello;5611]that is not peter thurston there thats maurice lyon in the mk1 there he is the guy who built it with barry costello
peter just had it from 1992-2009 he did very well in it but ran her down badly poor old girl was battered
maurice is at oulton park there racing in the northwest gt's
ive since rebuilt it an raced it check out www.allcarequipe.com (http://www.allcarequipe.com)
or lee costello racing on facebook[/QUOTE]

Lee, thanks for that info and the website link. Great to see the car is in good hands. It looks stunning! I vaguely seem to recall it featured in CCC magazine some years ago (10-15 years ago at a guess). I think it was black and pink at the time, but could be wrong?

Good to see more of the Super Saloons being restored and raced again. Some very exciting cars were built for this class. Did any of the V8 Capri's survive?

Here is an old CCC cover from 1974.

3961[

[Steve Holmes]

Algie Afetta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z31NiRMqFG8

Yeah thats good isn't it. I've been trying to get a copy of the full races from Bay Park and Manfield. Not having much luck though.

[bry3500]

Re Bay park and Manfield ..I'll ask Iain Eggleton, he may have footage

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Bry. I know there is at least one member on here who has copies, but, them finding the time to to have them converted to dvd and then copied is the issue.

[Rod Grimwood]

Talk him into it Steve, i would pay for a copy.

[Munty]

Ive got a copy I think, I'll double check and let you know. If so I was going to make a DVD up of a heap of early/mid 80's OSCA races along with some N.I. races and a wigram race to play and sell copies at out OSCA 40th Reunion night, Nov 5th.

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Evan. I'll be first in line for a copy if/when you do manage to get them on dvd.

[lee costello]

Hello all these pictures of special super saloons are amazing I love the other types from other counrtys cars an. Seeing serious engineering skill I was out in the escort 29th aug racing with the daf v8 baby bertha mick hills beetle now like the daf restored it was a fantastic honour too be on the same track as the heros it was a shame gerry marshall passed on as he would of been great in baby bertha I saw how joe. Ward was very carefull in it as it sposed be worth a fortune I did notice lots of special cars still simon allaway who infact raced with my dad come in the awesome bart simpson coloured esprit an blasted everyone there was lots of awesome home built great cars like andy gardners mellow yellow firenza what was bloody fast an also a mad 2door black jahuar what flew I saw soo many great cars I ill post up some good pics of it all when am not on my mobile

[105angria]

look forward to some pics please ,Octane Magazine ran an excellent track test article a couple of months back ,how did the revival meeting for these cars go lee

[Steve Holmes]

Hello all these pictures of special super saloons are amazing I love the other types from other counrtys cars an. Seeing serious engineering skill I was out in the escort 29th aug racing with the daf v8 baby bertha mick hills beetle now like the daf restored it was a fantastic honour too be on the same track as the heros it was a shame gerry marshall passed on as he would of been great in baby bertha I saw how joe. Ward was very carefull in it as it sposed be worth a fortune I did notice lots of special cars still simon allaway who infact raced with my dad come in the awesome bart simpson coloured esprit an blasted everyone there was lots of awesome home built great cars like andy gardners mellow yellow firenza what was bloody fast an also a mad 2door black jahuar what flew I saw soo many great cars I ill post up some good pics of it all when am not on my mobile

Lee, very cool post! I'm looking forward to seeing your photos.

[seaqnmac27]

The gentleman with the Suzuki was ..... Bish and he ran it at the original Taupo track and it was quick. It was white and green i know because I looked up the open Arse of it for a few laps. I think it had a genuine Yamaha race bike engine . A clever bit of work.


Was that Michael Bish? Drove a mini in the Rally of NZ one year, 1983 was given number 18 on the entry list, never quite sure why it was so high, especially when you look at some of the cars below his on the entry.


18 Bish, Michael Bailey, Roger NZ Mini Clubman GT Strong Bros. Mini Wreckers A

[rogered]

Was that Michael Bish? Drove a mini in the Rally of NZ one year, 1983 was given number 18 on the entry list, never quite sure why it was so high, especially when you look at some of the cars below his on the entry.


18 Bish, Michael Bailey, Roger NZ Mini Clubman GT Strong Bros. Mini Wreckers A

yip, he was strong bros wreakers here in hamilton

[Milan Fistonic]

Was that Michael Bish? Drove a mini in the Rally of NZ one year, 1983 was given number 18 on the entry list, never quite sure why it was so high, especially when you look at some of the cars below his on the entry.


18 Bish, Michael Bailey, Roger NZ Mini Clubman GT Strong Bros. Mini Wreckers A

We're getting a bit OT here but the reason for Bish's seeding was the rules. All World Championship events have strict seeding rules which mean cars of a particular type are grouped together.

In 1983 The Groups were: A, B, N, 2 and 4.

The fabulous Group B cars headed the seedings; cars like the Audi Quattro, Lancia Rally, Nissan 240RS and Renault Turbo 5. Nine of these cars were entered in 1983.

Then came Group 4 which was for the older GT cars like the Escort RS1800, Datsun 160J, Vauxhall Chevette HS and Mitsubishi Lancer EX. Five of this Group were entered.

Bish was in the next bunch of Group A cars. He was seeded third behind Jim Donald's Nissan Bluebird Turbo and Possum Bourne's Subaru RX Coupe and ahead of another six cars. Donald's car was later re-classified as Group 2.

Group 2 made up the rest of the field and was for the older Touring cars that were not as highly modified as the those in Group 4.

An interesting fact about Bish's performance that year is that by finishing 21st and being the 7th Group A or B car home, he scored 4 championship points and became the first driver to score WRC points driving a Mini.

[driftwood]

no details on this one
This is silverstone circa 1977 or 78
Yellow Escort is Nick Whitings 3.4 GAA V6 Escort built by John Thomson ( allegedly he built 3 escorts 2 for Uk 1 for italian in LHD)
Beetle is the ex Mick Hill 5 litre Chevy Beetle now with scotsman Doug Niven
the red VD Variant is the ex Colin Hawker DFVW car that Hawker built on the Duckhams Le Mans sports car (that alain de cadanet raced at LM in 72 & 73 designed by Gordon Murray) and had ex Jackie Stewart Tyrrell DFV fitted. The car was sold to Walter Robertson in scotland to race
The DFVW has been converted back to the Duckhams LM car now resides in USA
The Beetle was later sold form Doug Niven to Gary Charlwood to race at Lydden circa 83 and was then sold off dismantled many years ago for its engine gearbox and its F5000 suspension and lay idle for years until Dave Taylor acquired the remains mainly chassis body and re created the car again
The escort was sold to John Kirk in scotland and later disappeared but i have been told that it was later used not far from me many years later as a rallycross car sans GAA

[driftwood]

The skoda of Jim Evans was a Chevron B19 chassis with steel roof of skoda put on the chassis this skoda went on to be used by many brit special saloon racers and was the first car to utilise a proper race car chassis and spawned many special or supersaloons like the DFVW ( my favourite) we had many skodas on Group 6 2 litre sports cars as they where cheap to buy ( now obsolete race cars) and cheaper than building a steel shell car.
Later we had centre seater saloon and sports cars with Donington GT series some F5000 lola and chevron cars some F2 march chevron cars and many home built cars using F2 corners
we had skodas bmw m1 lotus europas esprits and many space frame escorts minis Imps Fiat 500 Fiat 1000 Suzuki SC100 cars that raced over the years and we have some websites in the UK with info on them
However the man who really kicked off our special saloon cars was Mick Hill with his Capri cars but Tony Hazlewood created the first super saloon with the DAF Repco engined car steel shell tube frame front & rear with March F2 corners. He sold the car and later created a Jaguar XJ12 with Lola T190 suspension

[driftwood]

Where is the Paul Fahey Cologne Capri today?
in previous post with photos is a red white Capri is this his car?
Back in 1990 when i first visited Aeotera I sat next to a lady and we got chatting she was flying to Auckland to visit the family, when i said i raced cars she asked if I had heard of Paul Fahey?
She was his daughter !!
Also when i was in NZ there was an advert in the NZ race mag " wanted any parts off the Fahey Capri" it was stripped down and the chassis was on the south island.
To subsides my 4 month trip to NZ & Oz i sold my race Imp to a young lad in UK who was dating the daughter of the man who owned and built the Sid Chrome Imp that Jim Richards raced when he was a real kiwi and lived there !!

[driftwood]

I met the owner of this car recently Bob. He gave me his card, but now I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have a contact for him? He flew over from the UK to race the car at Hampton Downs, and is very enthusiastic about it. I'm sure he'd enjoy this site.
i think you may be referring to Mark Dwyer he told me he had bought a kiwi mk 1 escort when he was down racing the F5000 series

[Steve Holmes]

The skoda of Jim Evans was a Chevron B19 chassis with steel roof of skoda put on the chassis this skoda went on to be used by many brit special saloon racers and was the first car to utilise a proper race car chassis and spawned many special or supersaloons like the DFVW ( my favourite) we had many skodas on Group 6 2 litre sports cars as they where cheap to buy ( now obsolete race cars) and cheaper than building a steel shell car.
Later we had centre seater saloon and sports cars with Donington GT series some F5000 lola and chevron cars some F2 march chevron cars and many home built cars using F2 corners
we had skodas bmw m1 lotus europas esprits and many space frame escorts minis Imps Fiat 500 Fiat 1000 Suzuki SC100 cars that raced over the years and we have some websites in the UK with info on them
However the man who really kicked off our special saloon cars was Mick Hill with his Capri cars but Tony Hazlewood created the first super saloon with the DAF Repco engined car steel shell tube frame front & rear with March F2 corners. He sold the car and later created a Jaguar XJ12 with Lola T190 suspension

Hey thanks for that info driftwood. I figured many of these cars would have been converted back to the single seaters and sports cars they started out as, or that were used for parts to build these cars, much like many F5000 based saloons would eventually get torn down and the parts used on F5000 restorations as the value of these cars began to rise.

I have a real interest in early to mid 1970s British Super Saloons, when the cars were still heavily production based. I know Mick Hill raced at least one V8 Capri during this period. Do you know what became of his early cars? And also, what happened to the Corvair that appeared around 1973/74?

[Steve Holmes]

Where is the Paul Fahey Cologne Capri today?
in previous post with photos is a red white Capri is this his car?
Back in 1990 when i first visited Aeotera I sat next to a lady and we got chatting she was flying to Auckland to visit the family, when i said i raced cars she asked if I had heard of Paul Fahey?
She was his daughter !!
Also when i was in NZ there was an advert in the NZ race mag " wanted any parts off the Fahey Capri" it was stripped down and the chassis was on the south island.
To subsides my 4 month trip to NZ & Oz i sold my race Imp to a young lad in UK who was dating the daughter of the man who owned and built the Sid Chrome Imp that Jim Richards raced when he was a real kiwi and lived there !!

Welcome to the site driftwood, I'd love for you to post an intro about yourself, you sound like you've done some interesting things: http://www.theroaringseason.com/forumdisplay.php?12-New-Members-Please-Introduce-Yourself-Here And please post some photos and info about your Imp. There are a lot of Imp fans on here!

Re the Fahey Capri, that car has been owned by Roger Townshend for many years, and is undergoing a very big restoration, as the car was modified quite a bit over its racing life, including the fitment of a small block Chevy V8. More info on the car can be found here: http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?117-The-Fahey-Capri-From-Le-Mans-to-Levin-and-even-Coronet-Peak-!!

The red and white Capri was a different car, owned and built by Don and Rob Halliday. It was V6 quad-cam powered, and used many parts similar to that of the European built machines such as the Fahey car, but was built up in NZ. That car no longer exists. It caught fire in the early 1980s and burnt to the ground.

[driftwood]

Thanks Steve
its 11 pm here in pongoland quaffing wine munch on cheese n biscuits while i surf the web and have " arf" an eye on some crepe film on tv so while i munch n quaff you lot are having your morning tea break !

I am slowly working my way thru your forum titles of interest to me, I don't know a lot of kiwi racing but i am aware of some names of car owners from Autosport reports
as you like the pommie saloon cars look here for some cars and info also you can look up the pom website 10 tenths for special saloon threads
http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/racing70s/menus/carlistmenu.htm

regarding info on myself I'm not that exciting !
I have a very good memory and my father raced special saloons and donington GT series in the 70's and 80's before he went single seaters with F2 March and now has F1 cars
I raced Imp classic historic saloons after karting late 1980s which is how i came to NZ having been contacted by a kiwi on a UK biz trip who was building Imp for NZ hysterical racing.

Regarding posting photos hmm i will need to educate myself on that score !!
Re Mick Hills cars off top of my head and well before my time
1 Capri 1970 this car was sold to another guy so he could build a better car there is a youtube film of this car running round mallory park I also have a cutaway drawing and article from Motoring news i was sent by a UK 10 tenther and on this form is more info on his cars
2 the second capri was bigger n better i think built with a 5 litre motor this car was sold later to Martin Birrane now Lola cars owner circa 1975
3 he then built the VW beetle around F5000 running gear ran this for 2 or 3 seasons
4 Im sure he then built a Skoda with a 7.6 litre surtees can am engine around 1979/80 he race this car but it was burnt in a fire at his garage and he built another car calling it the Phoenix and ran this for a while then he sold this car to build car no 5
5 this was a lola T400 with BMW M1 body on to for Donington GT championship this car doesn't exist anymore as the T400 is now in auckland with Shane but i did visit a man near silverstone 5 -6 years ago who had the bodywork and the motor from the BMW M1 car

I think the Skoda Phoenix car could still exist but the special saloon GT thing started to die out around 1989 and by 91 it was all over as a national championship and really only Oulton Park had a series running and I sold my father lotus Esprit for him end of 89 season so I stopped following what was going on.

[driftwood]

There is some real quality in that field. A pair of BMW M1s, a couple of DRM BMWs. Looks like a couple of Camaros too and an IMSA RX7. Real eclectic mix. But I'm struggling to find out any info on it.
post 171 Youtube is Finland special saloon race there is a longer film of the race
I have 1 of the BMW 320 DRM gp 5 cars in my garage that i will get round to restoring to race when i have some money/sold off some of my many other cars , F1 F3000 engines FTFGB gearboxes to get the funds

the BMW M1 is powered by a BMW f1 turbo engine and the car still exists today i saw youtube footage the other day
also in Japan they had a similar car running there 1982 ish but with 6 cyl motor again there is youtube footage of it racing in period and at historic festival in 07 09

[bry3500]

Hi driftwood
To post pics, select the Go Advanced button and then the manage attachments button on the next page that opens

[driftwood]

Thanks for the tip i can now see the wood from the trees
tomorrow while you lot sleep i will look to post some pics of interest to you and some that will keep Steve awake with anticipation !!

Im off to bed now so throw another dawn on your barbie and leave pint out in the sun for a few minutes for me:D

[Jac Mac]

Tony Strawson or something like that the name you trying to remember in relation to the first Mick Hill Capri?

[driftwood]

You might be right on The Strawb having the first Capri I'm sure he had the 2nd car before Birrane had it I will research it

going back to the UK Corvair that Ian Richards had Strawson raced that as his pal Gerry Marshall had bought it off Ian but i am not sure Strawb bought the Corvair
The Corvair was raced at Donington painted white by Martin?? DB Motors
The corvair had McLaren M8 suspension on it and later when all these sold 70's race cars became historic race cars the corvair was stripped of its running gear

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Steve
its 11 pm here in pongoland quaffing wine munch on cheese n biscuits while i surf the web and have " arf" an eye on some crepe film on tv so while i munch n quaff you lot are having your morning tea break !

I am slowly working my way thru your forum titles of interest to me, I don't know a lot of kiwi racing but i am aware of some names of car owners from Autosport reports
as you like the pommie saloon cars look here for some cars and info also you can look up the pom website 10 tenths for special saloon threads
http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/racing70s/menus/carlistmenu.htm

regarding info on myself I'm not that exciting !
I have a very good memory and my father raced special saloons and donington GT series in the 70's and 80's before he went single seaters with F2 March and now has F1 cars
I raced Imp classic historic saloons after karting late 1980s which is how i came to NZ having been contacted by a kiwi on a UK biz trip who was building Imp for NZ hysterical racing.

Regarding posting photos hmm i will need to educate myself on that score !!
Re Mick Hills cars off top of my head and well before my time
1 Capri 1970 this car was sold to another guy so he could build a better car there is a youtube film of this car running round mallory park I also have a cutaway drawing and article from Motoring news i was sent by a UK 10 tenther and on this form is more info on his cars
2 the second capri was bigger n better i think built with a 5 litre motor this car was sold later to Martin Birrane now Lola cars owner circa 1975
3 he then built the VW beetle around F5000 running gear ran this for 2 or 3 seasons
4 Im sure he then built a Skoda with a 7.6 litre surtees can am engine around 1979/80 he race this car but it was burnt in a fire at his garage and he built another car calling it the Phoenix and ran this for a while then he sold this car to build car no 5
5 this was a lola T400 with BMW M1 body on to for Donington GT championship this car doesn't exist anymore as the T400 is now in auckland with Shane but i did visit a man near silverstone 5 -6 years ago who had the bodywork and the motor from the BMW M1 car

I think the Skoda Phoenix car could still exist but the special saloon GT thing started to die out around 1989 and by 91 it was all over as a national championship and really only Oulton Park had a series running and I sold my father lotus Esprit for him end of 89 season so I stopped following what was going on.

Mmmmm, the wine, cheese and biscuits sounds nice!

Thanks for posting that racing 70s link through. I stumbled upon this site a couple of years ago, I think through 10-tenths, but haven't been able to find it again! I am particularly interested in the first V8 Capri of Mick Hill which later became the Tony Strawson car, and which I think might have later become the George Potter car: http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/racing70s/Fordcars/capri_01.htm Interesting that the motor of this car is listed as 7.6 litres, but the description is that it is an ex F5000 motor.

Another that interests me is the Chris Meek Capri: http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/racing70s/Fordcars/capri_03.htm

I assume the Capri Martin Birrane raced replaced his '70 Mustang?

[driftwood]

Free lesson UK Capris before i hit the sack the next lesson will cost you a war beer !!
Mick Hill Mk1 not sure if Strawb has this car
Mk2 5 litre V8 I'm sure this is Strawson then Birrane and Tony Rosen
Colin Hawker with DFV sold to Doug Niven in scotland and DFV fitted to the DFVW. Later the Capri is sold down south to Gary Charlwood circa 82 who installs V12 Jag motor car is said by Gary to be sold to a guy in my town who put it onto the road circa 87

Vince Woodman raced a pukka Cologne Gp 2 capri in the 70's and still retains to day
There was a Thunderslaoon Capri that raced circa 86 ish with GAA in it I'm sure built by Gartrac ( the rally people built escorts) this was terry Nicholls car but I'm not sure what happened to it

George "welly" Potter has a big engined capri late 70's before he built his 7 litre centre seat Esprit its possible this could be ex Mick Hill car

[Steve Holmes]

You might be right on The Strawb having the first Capri I'm sure he had the 2nd car before Birrane had it I will research it

going back to the UK Corvair that Ian Richards had Strawson raced that as his pal Gerry Marshall had bought it off Ian but i am not sure Strawb bought the Corvair
The Corvair was raced at Donington painted white by Martin?? DB Motors
The corvair had McLaren M8 suspension on it and later when all these sold 70's race cars became historic race cars the corvair was stripped of its running gear

Did the Corvair body/chassis survive?

[Steve Holmes]

post 171 Youtube is Finland special saloon race there is a longer film of the race
I have 1 of the BMW 320 DRM gp 5 cars in my garage that i will get round to restoring to race when i have some money/sold off some of my many other cars , F1 F3000 engines FTFGB gearboxes to get the funds

the BMW M1 is powered by a BMW f1 turbo engine and the car still exists today i saw youtube footage the other day
also in Japan they had a similar car running there 1982 ish but with 6 cyl motor again there is youtube footage of it racing in period and at historic festival in 07 09

Your DRM BMW definitely deserves a thread of its own. What is the history of your car? Have you seen the thread here on the Zakspeed Escort: http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?375-Zakspeed-Escort-Gp5&highlight=zakspeed

[driftwood]

Free lesson UK Capris before i hit the sack the next lesson will cost you a war beer !!
Mick Hill Mk1 not sure if Strawb has this car or if it was Bill Cox
Mk2 5 litre V8 I'm sure this is Strawson then Birrane and Tony Rosen
Colin Hawker with DFV sold to Doug Niven in scotland and DFV fitted to the DFVW. Later the Capri is sold down south to Gary Charlwood circa 82 who installs V12 Jag motor car is said by Gary to be sold to a guy in my town who put it onto the road circa 87

Vince Woodman raced a pukka Cologne Gp 2 capri in the 70's and still retains to day
There was a Thunderslaoon Capri that raced circa 86 ish with GAA in it I'm sure built by Gartrac ( the rally people built escorts) this was terry Nicholls car but I'm not sure what happened to it

George "welly" Potter has a big engined capri mid 70's before he built his 7 litre centre seat Esprit its possible this could be ex Bill Coxl car

[driftwood]

Steve you may want to delete my double postings I'm not sure if my wireless broadband is coming from NZ as i seem to have a delay in hitting the post NOW button nowt happens then i do it again and by then its on twice and you have replied in between
i leave you space to do some editing whilst i get my beauty sleep and respond as follows to your postings

1 My DRM Group 5 car
When i was young i recall seeing Ronnie Eddie Marc in works cars at Brands 6 hours in the Bimmers and always fancied one but never my must have dream car. I knew of a guy near me who had some bimmers in his workshop and after a coil of years i had some $ so i asked that stupid question "do you wanna sell?" so 48 hrs later my big mouth and empty wallet later i had a car in my "museum"
The car is a privateer car built off the works car that Cheever crashed in quail at R1 of DRM Zolder 77 the wreck was sold to Gustav Fisher and he built up his car for 78 season
he sold the car at end of the year to Gerd Reiss who raced it once or twice then it sat for 2 years till swede Keneth Leim buys it to contest WCM events in 82 silverstone Spa monza as he couldn't fond a porsche 935 to race
Car is sold to his co drivers son who races it locally and in Finland then the car is sold to 2 or 3 there Fins to race thru the 80's and early 90's then car is retired and then comes to UK
There were 3 Gp 5 BMW cars in Finland racing in the 80's

2 Zakspeed car yes im aware of it I know Leif Norberg in sweden nd he owns fit in Malayasia back in the 80's car has now been restored nicely

3 Im not 100% sure of the 70's website data it is inaccurate on some cars Doug Niven car is Colin Hawkers DFV car NOT Mick Hill
Meeks car is not Hill car he had the $$ to build his own cars I'm sure this capri is sold to1 of the other capri racers
Im sure the Mick Hill mk2 car is Birrane/Rosen car i need to see more photos of all the cars to compare but the Strawb car is puzzling a sim sure somewhere the Cox Potter cars are linked too its late I'm tired to keep popping to n fro the photo pages

[driftwood]

Corvair body survive?
allegedly but as a bare entity now I'm sure 10 tenths thread has it still with Matin at DB motors

[Steve Holmes]

Free lesson UK Capris before i hit the sack the next lesson will cost you a war beer !!
Mick Hill Mk1 not sure if Strawb has this car
Mk2 5 litre V8 I'm sure this is Strawson then Birrane and Tony Rosen
Colin Hawker with DFV sold to Doug Niven in scotland and DFV fitted to the DFVW. Later the Capri is sold down south to Gary Charlwood circa 82 who installs V12 Jag motor car is said by Gary to be sold to a guy in my town who put it onto the road circa 87

Vince Woodman raced a pukka Cologne Gp 2 capri in the 70's and still retains to day
There was a Thunderslaoon Capri that raced circa 86 ish with GAA in it I'm sure built by Gartrac ( the rally people built escorts) this was terry Nicholls car but I'm not sure what happened to it

George "welly" Potter has a big engined capri late 70's before he built his 7 litre centre seat Esprit its possible this could be ex Mick Hill car

Yes, no problem re the warm beer! In fact, we had some relatives stay with us just recently from the UK. My partner Helen is originally from Sidmouth, hence the reason we visit the UK quite regularly and lived there for a couple of years in the 90s. I do miss the pubs. Our relatives claim you get more flavour when the beer is warm.

Thanks for the info on the Capri's. I need to examine those photos more closely. Looks like some interesting connections between them. Sounds like quite a few of them have survived. Do you know if the Chris Meek or Gorge Potter cars still exist?

[Racebred]

A mate from Oz owns this super Historic Torana.
It was the 1st HDT Torana which has had some very famous Drivers behind its wheel and raced at some very historic events including Bathurst (misfire problems), Sandown (2nd from Moffat), and it did a couple of 1971 ATCC races before it was turned into Colin Bonds winning Rally car.
After a successful season and 45,000 miles of racing Peter Janson bought the car and replaced the old 186 with a fresh 202 but also had to change the grill and rear panels to make it an LJ to keep it in the production class. In 1972 with 75,000 race miles it had an affectionate nickname which refered to the miles it had covered, Saggy Sarah.

It has been fully restored back into its later Sports Sedan HDT livery and is raced regularly, Laz kept some of its old war paint and it shows well over 20 colours in the one place. I have a great liking of this model Torana and own a very quick 202 powered LC

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[Rod Grimwood]

That is history, does it still run 186-supercharged and is it as shown in second photo (with Commodore)

[bry3500]

That is history, does it still run 186-supercharged and is it as shown in second photo (with Commodore) Yes. still runs a supercharger Rod

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5a7fXwJ72U&feature=related

[Racebred]

That is history, does it still run 186-supercharged and is it as shown in second photo (with Commodore)
202 in it at present and the original Wade supercharger was off the Brock LC XU-1 Rally-X car nicknamed 'The Beast' but it was worn out and replaced with a Godfrey unit before Laz got it, the original brackets were still being used. The body of the beast was totally shagged and dumped so the stuff was just lying around in the HDT workshop so they decided to use it.

It running forged pistons and 8.1 comp using an original XU-1 '72 head with some extras, Dyno'd at 340hp @ flywheel and just on 400 ft/lbs torque on 9lb and I was told that the ex HDT guys reckon it sounds just like the old Beast :)

The pic with the Commodore in it was taken 27 years after it last saw Sandown :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yGZQ4eQeTs

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[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9eCyJeguEQ&feature=related

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-oQ_hilic8

[Rod Grimwood]

The mentioned 'Beast' Driven by Brock and Bond, was just what it was called.

[bry3500]

If you look at racebreds pictures of the roof , you can see where the paintwork has been rubbed pack to reveal the layers of history...very tastefully done..The yellow is very evident

[jim short]

i think john leamonth ownes the monza

[Rod Grimwood]

Jim, which Monza. I heard he had one, and that he had sourced his old Monaro.

That Torana sure has some Mumbo, imagine the wait saving if all the paint was removed.

[jim short]

Hi what a great way to start the new year,i am obvxxxxsly slower at reading than ithought ,just found these pages and just great ,sports sedans have been bypassed compared to the60~~70s i only had 5yrs 83~88 but remember them well .the first race at bay park parked behind algies alfa, ithink we may have started 3 cars side by side,or perhaps my eyes were shut ,could not see the starter, remember passing 3 cars befor the back straight , then a couple noisy smelly rotarys and a black marina took offence at some rich prick!!being better than them so found myself squeezed off the track..on a couple of corners ,but driving 190 inters 30plus ton on punice roads wide eneough for one and a half trucks was a good training ground,but to be fair we are good mates still,actually one of them {a lot bigger than me} came into my cycle shop some time later and asked how come that when i started we used to lap around 63~64sec now i am into 61s, well its like this see that bike i ride to work20 ks at lest ever day and on weekends a lot more than that .a few days later he returned what bike do need? sadly no bike frame was made in nz,{ by the way this rich prick sold his chrome wire wheels of jag a car now owed 42yrs to pay to keep ahead of those rotarys} stickshift

[jim short]

i rang him last niteclose to 20 yrs since been in contact{was good wine dont think its worn of yet} any how told him wanted to by his monaro he had for sale after quite a bit of stuttering he woke up to me,, the moaros well gone the monza is the brown davids algies one,he has run it a few times spoke and laughed over an hour

[Steve Holmes]

Jim, re the Monza, did Leamonth repaint it red?

[jim short]

whats your post address will do you a copy dvd{ including rotarys through the back window } 86~87

[jim short]

no idea, he has several other interesting cars but i only found this site 2am dave silcock was also coming on board his memory is real sharp david young wanganui top jag man died in plane crash 1984 maintained silcock only read the manuel once and remembered it where he had refere to it ~ you have created something great here

[Steve Holmes]

whats your post address will do you a copy dvd{ including rotarys through the back window } 86~87

Thanks Jim, I'd love that! Will email you postal address. Many thanks

[Steve Holmes]

no idea, he has several other interesting cars but i only found this site 2am dave silcock was also coming on board his memory is real sharp david young wanganui top jag man died in plane crash 1984 maintained silcock only read the manuel once and remembered it where he had refere to it ~ you have created something great here

Yes Dave registered a few days ago on here Jim. Re the Monza, I recall seeing a red Chevy Monza at Taupo many years ago. I'd never seen it before, and haven't seen it again since. I know there weren't many Monza's that raced in NZ, and the others were accounted for when I saw this one. I can't remember who was driving it though.....

[Rod Grimwood]

Jim, you still got that one driving through the paddock at Taupo to the dummy grid (squeck,squeck) and then the boys talking on dummy grid. loved those videos your young fella used to do (they had alot more footage of a flash modified VW than our cars with engines where you could see them breath).I think i can remember the shop, nice cups of tea, and the video with pracitice times at Bay Park with a zoom into the Porche time of 61 (High 61s) and then onto a Escort in 64 (low 64s). Yep definatly a wait advantage there.

Good to hear from you Jim Happy New Year to you and family.

PS still got Escort and maybe a little more weight disadvatage.

[Rod Grimwood]

This one reminds of the guy from the bike shop,

(Maybe this should be on Sports Sedan post, may head that way Jim then I can hopefully gather some support)

[jim short]

bit of a joke that shot.1983 ardmore reunion at puke.when asked to join the syndacate to race the porSche ,the five of us would have meetings every so on at least 3 monthly and no one out side the 5 will drive it,1st time out at BP i had my Etype competing against mostly 911s at the end of the day i got to drive it in the last race, our times were all close, but i was slightly quickest so i got to drive most of the time.Ardmore what a magic name this country will never get close to that place the cars the drivers only fangio and hawthorn was missing,man iwanted to race so much it hurt..but living on 25 acr. farm 20 cows 6or 7 horses not a lot of money..So 20 yrs beleive me i was ready the mk2 jag and the paton i bought for $600 and rebuilt it had a elva head overhead inlet valves that was prety well stuffed actally the great big chap i brought it off forget his name turned out to be a crook asked for the head back to do me a favour ,have it rebuilt with a couple of his own never got it back..never mind the rules stated any 4 cyl; ford mot, was ok if before 1965. plus john macey the last person to race the car had ohv mtr siting on the floor to go in sadly he put the car in the creek over rothmans and gave up racing,so some young chap in hamilton was wreking a cortina with a 1500 mtr;with webers or delorters $400 with gearbox seemed a good deal,[Some yrs later geoffrey a lot of yrs. actually competing with an anglia ind in contention stuffed his mtr.only a couple of races to go ,,well i wasnt keen but as kids do he borrowed the mtr. straight to lyn rogers , hell he said this is all standard lucky to have 70bhp.!!!I know im old back to the photo As you are running two cars at the meeting we will give roger anderson the 911 to drive so much for our rules ,never mind the jag was given fastest lap 1 23 ray archibald next then angus hyslop lot,cortina about 1 26{ i mention this because it wasent long before !!standard!!! lotus cortins were doing 1 16!!! the paton finished up fastest with 1,,,21 whitehouse{archibald xk then rob boult 3rd allard caddy}perhaps if i had driven 3 cars to win i might have got more than one sentance .. a bit like alister mcbeath when he beat bruce mclaren mini cooper in his mk2 jag the report was all about bruce the last sentance said mcbeath won . we still laugh about the coverage at times we i mean alister is with out a real lot of fun 83yrs. now by the way thats roger in the photo

[jim short]

ardmore reunion at puke 1983 the other 4 owners thought to drive 3 cars might be to much in spite of our rules laid down when i joined no one will drive the but us .so roger anderson got to drive it,still my jag got fastest lap the fan belt came off on the last lap plus the paton was fastest sportscar bur perhape if i had!!!!

[jim short]

Hi rod good to catch up not shure of that one,,,was it the last round when it rained brett didnt turn up for practise on sat..i had pole meaning had the overall in the bag!! sunday was fine and we went out no times taken and i could here this mini beside me turned out the diff finnaly all the teeth were gone,and brett won.makes you laugh today the third to last round at bp my gearbox was jamming ,just done the north south challenge no problems brett had a hell of a time a crash with viguar munt then he carried on and caught fire then on to puke 2nd last round gearbox jamed agained tow back ,,first time not counting the two crashes tony caused!!the first and only time blair my mech.and friend turned up ..not to worry race is tomorrow back to his garage pull trans out and up among selectors a large tooth!!!over the road return with some beers sitting feeling rather sad, but beer dos help, hay hang on this has been jamming the last couple of rounds so we have removed the problem!!! next day if you remember we used the long track and we all??decided to make it entertaining for the huge crowd you lead this lap me the next ect.ect..lasted untill that rather very quick turbo escort.. took off now only taupo to go rsr still in front..do you remember how stupit of me how could you forget!!!

[jim short]

only once in 5 yrs did i ever have 4 new tyres at the same time when i go with son and grandson to v8s today new tyres everware and for the record on a track thats now houses best time was 1,,,03 by the way i cant stand skites

[jim short]

and amco said i couldent write i dont mean spell

[driftwood]

Steve
I'm back catching up ( in theory i should get email to advise eof further postings to threads but i don't! why is it not happening? )
Re old UK race capris
as far as i am aware no cars have crawled out from under the tarps or been found dormant in a shed to be restored
another Capri that ha just flashed thru my mind is the Dave brodie "run baby run" car he had i think Ga powered
Brodie had a few escorts first then the capri i cannot recall who had the capri before him
I know if i sit up for weeks on end reading my collection of 1973-2002 Autosports i will find the info but i await the shipment of warm beer that you need to send to activate the reading and yes its raining here so i can even do it in daylight hours !
I have read through many of my mags and made note son cars for sale or gossip reports of new cars built or sold to new owners but i cannot find the list now

[Rod Grimwood]

Jim, thats another video i must check and get done, the stage race at Bay Park, taking turns doing the biggest skid around Harmans and down the short straight and a flick into Champion and onto front straight. Jiggger in the Datsun, Stickshift in the Mazda, you in the Porche and a white and blue Escort. And they think drifting is a new sport. They were good days, championship finished and just a good old thrash for the boys in last race.

[jim short]

no not me tony called me stickshift because his trade name was autoshift auto repares so i called him autoshift plus he was so smooth!!the only rigged race was at puke ,,didnt stay rigged for long i have a great vidio of you bp into front strait turning around {the car} to see who is following next lap you got it pretty good To laugh is so important and since steph died{15yrs} being bloody had but laugh i do and at bp around the big sweeper the porsche loved it how many times i could run around the big v8s classic was munt in green capri sitting on the left in my car right beside him as i went past him sawing away at the wheel, then he would out grunt me down the straight lap after lap, i mean how could you not laugh him looking at me in disbeleif.. john leamonth past him around there a few times not often i think he only beat me once when gears played up

[burbanite]

McElrea says you got that right Jac!

The last vision that I have of the aforementioned gentleman was him eating pavlova out of the fridge with a hearth shovel, it was at some kind of function in Ashburton...:D

[Jac Mac]

The last vision that I have of the aforementioned gentleman was him eating pavlova out of the fridge with a hearth shovel, it was at some kind of function in Ashburton...:DMcElrea likes pavlova?... thats a scary thought as I quite like a good pav as well, never had a need to use the hearth shovel though,... whats even scarier seeing that is 'burbanite's' last vision from a function in Ashburton is what evil deeds may have been perpertrated on him between that vision time & when he returned to the land of the living....:)

[rogered]

correct,

[rogered]

Jim, re the Monza, did Leamonth repaint it red?


correct:)

[Paul Wilkinson]

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[Rod Grimwood]

Now that was a common pose Paul. Remember one time in last race of day at same corner and down to and onto front straight we were playing and doing what today they call drifting in tandem or in line. Tony had that car like it was on remote, he was pretty handy peddler, and quick.
It had a lot of grunt and remember the big Caterpillar muffler pocking out the rear. Another bit of John Butler (Manon/Butler Motors) work.
As mentioned in your introduction, great to know the car is still being used occassionally, pity it is in Aussie.
Footnote: It held a Drag record for years.

[Paul Wilkinson]

I've seen the video for the drag record, a bit slower off the line but once that turbo cut in... I've got the Hot Rod article somewhere, I should scan and post it.

I had a lesser powered engine in the car while we rebuilt the turbo engine, it was easily the most responsive car I've ever driven. You could 'feel' everything and it was very linear. It loved to be steered on the throttle and you could put the back out just as much or as little as you wanted.

Should Tony or anyone else want to track the old beast down, I am sure that Greg Lund will still be in contact with Scott. I believe that Greg is still active in the Rotary scene and shouldn't be too hard to locate.

[Rod Grimwood]

Pretty sure Tony had a bet with his mate Rob Campbell the Hot Rod mag man over the run. There was always a bit of banter there as Tony was originally a rodder and Rob gave him grief about turning into a roundy roundy. Always a laugh and good hearted banter on when ever Rob dropped into the workshop in Barry's Point Rd.
Don't know if Tony could drive the old Mazda now as he has aged and is driveing the safety/pace car now at Hampton and Pukekohe and as Jim Short would notice this is more at his pace.

[Paul Wilkinson]

I love Tony's comment when asked about the sound of rotary engines, which I must paraphrase here as my memory isn't perfect. "I love the sound of V8s, I always slow down to listen to them as I go past..."

[Jizim]

Unbelievable! How do you lot do any work? I havent had the time to scratch my self let alone visit here. In any case Happy New Year to you guys out there and so cool to hear from you Paul. The Mazda is undergoing restoration to how I had it I believe. I hear from Scotty from time to time and I am wrapt that the car is in good hands. He was saying he is coming back to reside in Gisborne along with the Mazda so it will be cool. Hard case that two of my race cars end up in Australia. Now Jim...I have all but finished my BMW project...(although I did have to sell the engine and Getrag.) So I am thinking maybe a rotary?? Nah just jiving ya mate. Got M5 engine lined up. Would be so cool if you come and see me at the Festival mate. I always have one of your family with me! I could probably give you some top up lessons but you gotta bring the tea and scones....Drifty could join us with Brett and maybe get Bob Homewood and the Team Windleburn along for a reunion on the bonnett of your Coombs Jaguar? Otherwise I am going to have to gatecrash ya house in Toke along with some undersirables like Drifty etc!! This site just gets better and it so addictive.....bag
ck later...bye for now. Tony Rutherford.

[Paul Wilkinson]

Great to hear from you Tony! The car was almost exactly as you raced it when Scott bought it, remember we came back and kept buying the original bits and pieces until we had everything -the engine & turbo, the gearbox - even those knackered magnesium wheels! The only changes I made were:
I took the signage off as I was always being pulled over!
The original engine was beyond repair (Rotor welded to eccentric shaft!) and the replacement we built was bridgeported rather than a J-port like I seem to remember you had.
I put some proper racing seats in it.

When I sold it to Scott he was going to try and put some other doors on it to get winding windows! Thank God he saw the error of his ways!

[Steve Holmes]

As posted by Bry3500 on the Sandown 1000 thread. What happened to the 3 Aussie BMWs that raced in sports sedans in the 80s?

1) Craven Mild 318i. LHD Floorpanned Turbo Built by Jim Busby to IMSA specs in the USA. Brought out here in early 1980 and made its debut in Rd3 of the Australian Sports Sedan Championship at Amaroo Park with Gricey at the wheel. Raced through 1980. Did not re appear until the 1982 Championship Rd6 with Jim Richards at the wheel under JPS colours. Car now had the boxed guards. This car then ended up being purchased by Molloy and raced by Chris Hones before being passed on to Robin Doherty and then I think on to Rob Burns. It was then sold onto the US. Car is now in Germany or England.

2) JPS 318i. RHD Space frame. Made its debut at Rd1 of the Better Brakes 3.5 series at Amaroo Park in 1981 with Gricey at the wheel under JPS colours. Raced throughout 1981 in the Championship before being sold to Bruce Lynton for 1982 season and then John Brigss for the 1983 season. It was then raced by Grant Munday and then to Richard Gartner. Richard put a rotary in it and raced it in the NSW state series with a black colour scheme. The car ended up in Thailand and apparently is now in New Zealand.

3) JPS IMSA 320i. LHD Floorpanned Jim Busby built car. Was used as show/spares car. Did not race until the WSC in 1984 with Richards at the wheel. Was a naturally aspirated 2L F2 engine. This was sold onto Molloy whith Chris Hones at the wheel before being raced by Ludwig Finnaur with a sky blue paint scheme as he got his CAMS license. It was then further raced by Chris Hones before being passed on to a Rob Shiel? The car in now in Germany or England?

[Steve Holmes]

I always thought the 3rd car above, the 320i, was the same car that Richards had raced in the 1983 Australian GT championship with that was involved in the big Adelaide shunt. I thought they rebuilt it without the turbo for the 84 Sandown race for some reason. Seems the first car was that which raced in the 83 GT series then?

[jim short]

tony how long have you wanted to be called jim but mate you are spelling it wrong!!!!

[bry3500]

The Potts car was ex Judith Durham of the Seekers ,
. Carey Tappetts in his rotary-powered following