Who am I?

[rf84]

Just for fun.
I had a few beers with a well known ex Kiwi racer from the 60's and 70's a couple of nights ago. Who is he?
Clue. He now lives in Fiji.

[Rod Grimwood]

Did his cars have doors or did you hop into it.

[jim short]

Did he race a fast mini owned by an aliies name??? {on here}

[Michael Clark]

Ross Grenville?

[Wal Will]

i'm going with Michael Clark - Ross Grenville?

[Kiwiboss]

:)Well, we know it can't be "Elvis" so depending on the consumption beers it could have been :)Bruce or Denny:o? LOL

[rf84]

I must have made it too easy.Curly-you get the chocolate fish.
Yes-it was Ross Greenville. He lives in Denarau and an be found most nights at "Cardo's" restaurant and steak bar at Port Denarau.
He is an avid golfer and was the first person to achieve a 'hole in one' at the Natadola golf course when it opened. Hard to imagine a more affable and pleasant person.

[Michael Clark]

I haven't sussed out who you are yet RF84 - anyway, does this mean I can keep the game going?

I had a drink yesterday at Pukekohe with another very affable man - top driver in tintops in his day. I asked him 'did you ever try a proper racing car?' and he said 'a few laps in private practice in a McRae...'

Who is he?

[rogered]

running a e30?

[Michael Clark]

Either one of them or something like that...

[rogered]

brockelhurst

[Michael Clark]

ok Rog, your turn

[Michael Clark]

Bonus point - name the McRae Richard tested

[rogered]

Guessing But GM1 001 or the evan noyes car?

[Michael Clark]

Bonus point still on offer!

[rogered]

HMMMmmmmm
The mcrae twincam or Rollinson

[Michael Clark]

Close enough Rogered - it was the Dexter Dunlop FVA powered car - what I call the black 'twin cam' following on from the championship winning red car.

[DJMcD]

Close enough Rogered - it was the Dexter Dunlop FVA powered car - what I call the black 'twin cam' following on from the championship winning red car.

Oooh, this looks like fun but between historians par excellence M Clark and D McKinney do we mere mortal aged enthusiasts stand a chance!

[AMCO72]

DJMcD.......it's easy when you know the answer. I'm sure you could think up an obscure question that would stump these two 'brains trust'.......eg..... Question........ Formula 1 driver uttered this gem...'Some of these drivers think their mirrors are for shaving'. Who is/was he?......maybe the brains trust can answer that one!!

[AMCO72]

OK, so it seems as though the questions are about NZ drivers. I'll start to do some digging.

[rogered]

Oooh, this looks like fun but between historians par excellence M Clark and D McKinney do we mere mortal aged enthusiasts stand a chance!
kinda what went though my mind when Micheal sujested it was "my turn".
but still thinking of a question:)

[pallmall]

DJMcD.......it's easy when you know the answer. I'm sure you could think up an obscure question that would stump these two 'brains trust'.......eg..... Question........ Formula 1 driver uttered this gem...'Some of these drivers think their mirrors are for shaving'. Who is/was he?......maybe the brains trust can answer that one!!

Sounds like an Alan Jones one liner.

[David McKinney]

Or Frank Gardner

[bry3500]

I've read that somewhere else on this forum...Jody Scheckter

[AMCO72]

bry3500.....you are too smart for your own good!!!!!!

[AMCO72]

OK bry3500, this one to my knowledge has not been posted on here. Clue....think Indianapolis 500.. Who said.....'You know there are two things that I pride myself on....two things I do know. One of them is what a good engine sounds like, and the other is what a good looking lady looks like!..........Legends, and that is enough clues for smart alecs.

[Oldfart]

Sounds a bit like Denny really!

[thunder427]

.....so who was it that, after spearing off the track in his F1,told the Press Vultures that the cause of the sudden stop against the outside wall on right hander....."throttle jamed"!!!!.....which had his 'pit crew' scratching Thier respective heads,......as he walked back into the team pit some time later....."don't worry looking for the jamed throttle,it was brain failure"!!!!!! .......regards thunder427/MJ.........Quest/one.

[bry3500]

OK bry3500, this one to my knowledge has not been posted on here. Clue....think Indianapolis 500.. Who said.....'You know there are two things that I pride myself on....two things I do know. One of them is what a good engine sounds like, and the other is what a good looking lady looks like!..........Legends, and that is enough clues for smart alecs.
hmmm legends? AJ Foyt ?

[nigel watts]

OK bry3500, this one to my knowledge has not been posted on here. Clue....think Indianapolis 500.. Who said.....'You know there are two things that I pride myself on....two things I do know. One of them is what a good engine sounds like, and the other is what a good looking lady looks like!..........Legends, and that is enough clues for smart alecs.

I'm going to have a guess - Mario Andretti

[AMCO72]

Ok you turkeys....another clue......Indianapolis 500 plus others ......NOT a driver but part of a team.

[pallmall]

George Bignotti.

[bry3500]

Fred Offenhauser

[thunder427]

.....Andy Gratinalli/STP.......?

[AMCO72]

Getting close....right era.

[bry3500]

I'll keep stabbing in the dark ..J.C.Agajanian..um, Parnelli jones

[bry3500]

Penske

[thunder427]

.......Graham Hill...........

[pallmall]

AJ Watson

[thunder427]

...whom was aledged to have walked up to Rod Coppins, at The Lady Wigram Friday practice, shook his hand and said,"By God,you're a better man than I am,Gunga Din"!!!!!!...Rod having just set the fastest time down the back straight in the Zephyr/Corvette,with the 8 stacks sticking out of the bonnet........................thunder427/MJ......Quest/two

[AMCO72]

These guys were legends back in the mid 60's and later..... They were the pit crew to dream of......58 gallons of gas into the tank in 15 seconds......Did Jim Clarks pit work and ONLY worked on Fords......there were 5 of them. There, I've given the game away.

[Rod Grimwood]

Allan Moffat

[Grant Ellwood]

Wood Brothers

[AMCO72]

Congratulations Americakiwi........this little gem was said by Leonard, the second of the five Wood Bros. They honed their skills on Stock-cars as distinct from Indy cars. A.J.Foyt was very dismissive of them at first, until he saw their pit work. They used their brains as well as their brawn to hone pit work to a fine degree. Americakiwi....are you an expat Kiwi? Probably being a bit unfair asking NZers a question like that, but plenty of people follow Indy, so though someone WOOD know!!!!!!

[AMCO72]

OK, back to thunder427's question...........perhaps Dennis Marwood??

[Grant Ellwood]

Congratulations Americakiwi........this little gem was said by Leonard, the second of the five Wood Bros. They honed their skills on Stock-cars as distinct from Indy cars. A.J.Foyt was very dismissive of them at first, until he saw their pit work. They used their brains as well as their brawn to hone pit work to a fine degree. Americakiwi....are you an expat Kiwi? Probably being a bit unfair asking NZers a question like that, but plenty of people follow Indy, so though someone WOOD know!!!!!!

Yes, ex-pat Kiwi in southern Virginia where I met Leonard Wood, totally coincidental to this thread but I was a Jim Clark fan

from way back ( which is where I originally heard of the Wood Bros). I'm living in the part of the south famous for moonshine which is mostly illicit for the best tasting stuff, of course I avoid it when I can which is not often.....
Cheers, Grant Ellwood

[jamie]

Hay Grant long time no see hows tricks Janice andi are fine. I am silll building motors from Yam KT100 karts up Jamie

[Grant Ellwood]

Hi Jamie, great forum, lots of names and memories from the past. Here's my email address - ellwoodusa@yahoo.com.
There is a lot of interest here in historic racing,locally a couple of F1 cars - Tyrrell and Hesketh plus one of my friends has an M6B for sale US$425,000, be great to see that go to NZ!

[Dave Silcock]

Ok guys who was it that said on being asked how he could spin at Indianapolis without going off or flatting his tyres "Well I declutch you know"

[Carlo]

Ok guys who was it that said on being asked how he could spin at Indianapolis without going off or flatting his tyres "Well I declutch you know"

Denny Hulme

[jim short]

I will have a stab at it jim clark

[Dave Silcock]

Your right Jim well done

[DJMcD]

When rear mounted wings first arrived on the NZ scene, who was the driver, when refused the measurements of a rival's latest appendage, used a race programme to establish the correct dimensions?

[jim short]

Who was escorted to the airport after winning the nzigp befor prizegiving and why???

[Russ Cunningham]

Who was escorted to the airport after winning the nzigp befor prizegiving and why???

Was it you Jim?

[jim short]

Sorry Riss I was 2nd 3times but never quite won it good try though

[Chris Read]

Re rf84's original Q about a kiwi racer and mini and living in Fiji...thought it may have been Murray Coburn...but you wouldn't have had 'a few' beers.

[Michael Clark]

When rear mounted wings first arrived on the NZ scene, who was the driver, when refused the measurements of a rival's latest appendage, used a race programme to establish the correct dimensions?

Donald, I recall Graham McRae claimed to have put the first wing on a car - the red twin-cam. I don't the answer but I'll start the ball rolling by guessing at Kenny Smith.

[DJMcD]

Donald, I recall Graham McRae claimed to have put the first wing on a car - the red twin-cam. I don't the answer but I'll start the ball rolling by guessing at Kenny Smith.

1969 Teretonga International event. Roly Levis reckoned they were dangerous - he had them on upside down! The mystery driver asked for the dimensions, none forthcoming so decided to use the day's programme as a measuring device.

[rf84]

Peter De Lore-Lotus 20?

[thunder427]

Peter De Lore-Lotus 20?

......NO!!!!......you have to have money to buy a wing or even get one made and you can trust me when I say Peter had tons of talent,but no money!!!!.......have great story to tell about Peter's off at Terrertonga during practice.....but another time...........regards thunder427/MJ

[PaulieG]

......NO!!!!......you have to have money to buy a wing or even get one made and you can trust me when I say Peter had tons of talent,but no money!!!!.......have great story to tell about Peter's off at Terrertonga during practice.....but another time...........regards thunder427/MJ

Hey thunder. Would love to hear more about Peter de lore and his wings on his lotus 20. Apparently he built the one on my lotus according to bill McCabe, who says he knew Peter quite well.

[David McKinney]

Continuing the OT trend - the Begg Twincam was certainly one of the first to run with a wing, at Teretonga in December 1968

[DJMcD]

The car ran in Lexington livery

[Carlo]

The car ran in Lexington livery

The Kid from Kelso

[DJMcD]

The chocolate fish goes to Carlo, well done that man

[Carlo]

Who was escorted to the airport after winning the nzigp befor prizegiving and why???

Haven't seen an answer to this one yet.



But while we are waiting, A few years ago there was a Formula Ford driver who earned the nicname "Flick" who is he and why the nicname?

[AMCO72]

Something to do with a 'Little Fire Engine'........or maybe the car was red!!!! [A Fireman]

[jim short]

just a small clue the car returned with another driver to ardmore

[jim short]

prince Bira

[bry3500]

Jack Brabham

[jim short]

The ans. above was Prince Bira and Miss Auckland!!!

[markec]

8238

[Russ Cunningham]

8238

Ivy Stephenson?

[markec]

Probably about the same height. With about as sharper tongue.

[AMCO72]

A short refined Gent, pedaling hard, trying to avoid the unmown grass on the side of the track, while eating a bag of licorice allsorts!!

[markec]

Keep that up Gerald and you will win the Allsorts.

[jim short]

Sometimes not often silence is golden,and for those that are faster on the road than on the track that shot the 2.8 mtr. car is going over 135 mph in 5th gear ,and if you are quick and place an order with Bewluf there is a chapter explaning how to drive fast in the new book

[markec]

Its the only photo I have found of you Jim, in all the material that I have gone through I would have thought there would have been more.Its a good action Pic.

[jim short]

I have plenty more if you send a blank cheque

[jim short]

Hi Market if you have the Teratonga book {40 Sporting years} Keith Douglas page 124,.the last time I was down there the women who runs {so I am told} the office had a photo she was going to find and send when she tracked it down ,maybe you might have more luck as I understand you have your finger on photo collection ,,remember money is no object when it comes admiring ourselves.You mite be interested in a photo of me on a sledge behind a big draft horse ,went fron the cowshed to the front gate {2 miles in 3mins}