Philip Island Historics 2012

[105angria]

http://www.vhrr.com/phillip_island.htm Link to entry lists ,long range weather report 26 degrees will be wonderfull

[bry3500]

http://www.vhrr.com/phillip_island.htm Link to entry lists ,long range weather report 26 degrees will be wonderfull Can't wait.....

[tweaks]

Wahaaaay !!

Am looking forward to some real racing cars ,getting the old senses going again ,hairs on back of neck standing up and goose bumps all over .....
Should be a great weekend ...
Who on here is going down

Cheers
Lynds

[Rod Grimwood]

Yep

[Kiwiboss]

Bugger, wish i was going!!!! OH Well, how about you push some of those Nc cars to come over for Denny Hulme Rod!! or give them my E-mail!! Keep us posted.

Dale Mathers

[Steve Holmes]

Hope you guys are going to post pics!

[105angria]

Bring some wet weather gear now predicting the occasional shower

[AMCO72]

Hi, have just been scrolling through the entry list....some amazing stuff in there. Can someone tell me please what the difference is between class Nb and Nc.......Obviously they are saloons, but with different modifications. Is one similar to our schedule K class, or is it based on year of manufacture? Maybe one of them is similar to what oldfart was proposing to run here in NZ, ie fairly standard cars with very limited modifications. Thanks.

[Steve Holmes]

Its based on date Gerald.

Group Na is for Historic Touring Cars built prior to December 31 1957.
Group Nb is for Historic Touring Cars built prior to December 31 1964.
Group Nc is for Historic Touring Cars built between January 1 1965 and December 31 1972.

Also, with Group Nc, only cars that competed in an Australian Touring Car Championship race or Improved Production race prior to December 31 1972 are eligible. Thats why you see 1969 Mustangs racing in Group Nc, but not 1970 Mustangs. Nobody raced a 1970 Mustang in an ATCC race prior to that date.

[kiwi285]

Just had a quick look through the entry list. Hope someone has a good digital camera and plenty of batteries for the weekend.

[bry3500]

No Anglia's..yet again, were they all converted back to Harry Potter specification??

[AMCO72]

That is a surprising omission, seeing as the Mini and the Anglia ruled the roost here for a long time. There are quite a few Cooper 'S' entries. I think back to last year when Steve Pauling came up from ChCh with his Anglia for the Chris Amon FoS. It looked so standard....almost as though Auntie Pat had just stepped out of it.....but it went like stink. Whats up with Australia??

[Howard Wood]

Gerald Maate,

If it aint got a "Made in Australia" sticker on it, its not fair dinkum. Mini just qualifies (as long as it has wind up windows).

[timbo61]

No Anglia's..yet again, were they all converted back to Harry Potter specification??

In NSW, I haven't seen an Anglia in Historic Touring Cars since Chris Dubois swapped his Nb Anglia for an Nc Escort.
There are a couple of Hillman Imps and Austin A35's to keep us entertained though.

[AMCO72]

Howard, are you 'fair dinkum' about the wind up windows? If so I will have to cancel my entry!!!!!

[Steve Holmes]

No Anglia's..yet again, were they all converted back to Harry Potter specification??

I thought they'd all been given roof chops and fitted with Lotus motors?

Even in the 60s the Anglia was a rare site on Aussie race tracks. I can only think of one example that raced in the ATCC, Roy Sawyers 998 which ran the 1961 race.

[105angria]

In Aus they became sports sedans than they vanished

[Rod Grimwood]

Well off for the big bird, and looking forward to it. Once we have the car sorted i will endevour to get as many photos as possible.
Dale i will do what i can and maybe get you some contacts etc.
Cheers

[Kiwiboss]

Well off for the big bird, and looking forward to it. Once we have the car sorted i will endevour to get as many photos as possible.
Dale i will do what i can and maybe get you some contacts etc.
Cheers

Sure thing Rod, most in Nb/Nc probably don't realize that there is now a class for them to race with in NZ!!!

Have Fun

Dale Mathers

[lisian_1275]

Nb and Nc Mini's run sliding windows in Australia.

Thanks

Ian

[105angria]

have 300 pics first couple of days

[105angria]

something for oldfart, the Cooper Bristol has been awesome LOUD slipping sliding going for it

[105angria]

assd

[kiwi285]

Great photos Angria 105 - keep them coming you lucky bugger.

[TonyG]

F5000 in early pics has a hell of a wheel alignment problem.
Keep them coming. That Matich Sports car looks amazing.

[TonyG]

Bugger, wish i was going!!!! OH Well, how about you push some of those Nc cars to come over for Denny Hulme Rod!! or give them my E-mail!! Keep us posted.

Dale Mathers
Hi Dale. There is a race meeting to celebrate the opening of Lakeside in a fortnight which unfortunately I can't get to, but the Trans Am boys are racing there as well so they can probably help contact the Group Nc boys.

[Kiwiboss]

Hi Dale. There is a race meeting to celebrate the opening of Lakeside in a fortnight which unfortunately I can't get to, but the Trans Am boys are racing there as well so they can probably help contact the Group Nc boys.

Yes, i know about this one TonyG, its the first round for the Trans am group!!! can't be their myself but will no doupt get feed back.

Dale Mathers

[105angria]

Rod in shot they had a lot of work with with car lose in transport container

[105angria]

car 5 cleaned up on Sat

[pallmall]

Looks like a seriously bent Lola F5000 in the first group of photos, I hope only the car and pride were hurt?

[105angria]

chipped ankle which was very good because car was stuffed

[Steve Holmes]

Thats a bloody huge wing on the rear of that Elfin. Looks like there is a frame running along the bottom to attach the lower wing end plates.

[105angria]

boosters

[105angria]

styling

[Steve Holmes]

The red Ginetta, #82, was it a V8 G10?

[105angria]

big & bigger

[105angria]

humpys

[105angria]

couple more Humpys

[105angria]

Ginetta was v8 sound great more than 85db , Mclaren may have been the cleanest thing there ,including crew spotless

[105angria]

more wings for Steve

[105angria]

to the Grid

[Steve Holmes]

McLaren M8F Can-Am car is ex Vic Elford.

[bry3500]

Great day at Phillip Island, Drove down in Frank Borgs beautifully kept Sunbeam Alpine..Part of the Shannons Convoy of Classic Cars..In front of us was a Ferrari Daytona, behind us a GT40, no need for the stereo!!. The Alpine is going to be used next week at the Grand Prix in the parade lap for the drivers.
What a fantastic selection of cars at the island, both on and off the track, I nearly spent as much time in the spectator car park as in the pits. The F5000 brigade put on a great show, it was a pleasure to hunt down Rod G and have a long chat.. Roaring Season is also a social networking site it seems.
Keep those pics coming Angria!.
PPS... there were several nasty accidents,From Rod's description of the F5000 crash on Saturday, the driver was lucky to escape serious injury or worse!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EthycqBDm5I

[rogered]

Rod in shot they had a lot of work with with car lose in transport container

dodgy looking character in that orange lola pic:cool:

[bry3500]

This one happened right in front of us...Carrera was munted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxLDQm1V1Yo

[rogered]

Im assuming it was a t332, but which car is it that is shown here badly damaged
have 300 pics first couple of days

[105angria]

no 25 Stan Redmond. I heard he was thrown from car ,had chipped ankle

[105angria]

frogs and a swede

[105angria]

assd

[bry3500]

Im assuming it was a t332, but which car is it that is shown here badly damaged
according to Rob G the accident happened in Fridays practice ...the driver was thrown out onto the track...very lucky

[Rod Grimwood]

according to Rob G the accident happened in Fridays practice ...the driver was thrown out onto the track...very lucky

No, Stan was in his car, he has seat belts and plenty of them. The unfortunate guy who got exited from his car was the driver of the Cooper Bristol which hit the pit wall very hard and he had no belts ? not a nice site when you are working on car and hear a almighty thump and sprapping noise, look up and see a wreck (it was a mess) sitting in the middle of track and then notice no one in it, walk out as an official sprints past and a women is screaming her head off up the pits a bit, look out pit fence and about 50 metres up the the track is somebody laying spead eagle like a starfish on his back on the track. It was pretty upsetting for every one.

[Rod Grimwood]

A couple more of McLaren Can Am. It was a beast. New to team and they slowly got into it as week end progressed. As mentioned the car was beautiful. The sound is awesome, makes things happen when it pass's at speed.

Will put some more photos up when time permits to resize.

[Murray Maunder]

Hey guys, thanks for the great photos, and covering descriptions. Shows that Goodwood doesn't have a stranglehold on great classics any more. Those F5000s must have been great around that beautiful flowing circuit.

[105angria]

Cooper Bristol pre prang

[bry3500]

No, Stan was in his car, he has seat belts and plenty of them. The unfortunate guy who got exited from his car was the driver of the Cooper Bristol which hit the pit wall very hard and he had no belts ? not a nice site when you are working on car and hear a almighty thump and sprapping noise, look up and see a wreck (it was a mess) sitting in the middle of track and then notice no one in it, walk out as an official sprints past and a women is screaming her head off up the pits a bit, look out pit fence and about 50 metres up the the track is somebody laying spead eagle like a starfish on his back on the track. It was pretty upsetting for every one. Thanks Rod..no wonder I couldn't find the Cooper on Sunday..nice to catch up btw

[105angria]

Hey Murray Philip Island is an amazing event, very well run , thrilling, inclusive, and the variety every year I allways se a dozen or more things ive never seen, Goodwood would be a trip but PI is up there and 1hr from home fantastic

[105angria]

Any Requests got a lot of pics

[AMCO72]

Seeing as we have just been talking about crowds, or lack of them on the HD thread, could I ask what sort of a crowd attended this weekend. I know we can't compare with NZ, as there is potentially a much larger base to draw from there, but would like a comment from someone who was there. A request for pictures......yes. Some action shots of the Nb/Nc saloons would be appreciated.

[105angria]

Hi Amco ,the growd was good main straight was full on Sat with cars spread right around track at other good spots [you can drive right around the outside at PI and prettywell park were you like] sorry my action shots are all very distant had lens problem [i dont know how to use it]

[105angria]

in the Pits

[Rod Grimwood]

This was my highlight, the Camaro. Meeting the man who ressurected it, being shown over it, and then chatting and meeting the man himself who raced it and then one of his mates who he did many a battle with in days of old. A magic time and will never be forgotten. So easy to chat to and full of beans. Mr Bob Jane has given alot to motorsport and still is by presenting prizes to the F5000 boy's. Mr Beechy, what a jovial person and great to chat with along with his wonderful lady.

PS. If you go to the World Speedway at Western Springs look out and you may just see Mr Beechy and his lady there.

[bry3500]

More Action ..both drivers uninjured
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUodZnQxWlw

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ElXcJFmBrs

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LizFyt_LQY8

[Kiwiboss]

This was my highlight, the Camaro. Meeting the man who ressurected it, being shown over it, and then chatting and meeting the man himself who raced it and then one of his mates who he did many a battle with in days of old. A magic time and will never be forgotten. So easy to chat to and full of beans. Mr Bob Jane has given alot to motorsport and still is by presenting prizes to the F5000 boy's. Mr Beechy, what a jovial person and great to chat with along with his wonderful lady.

PS. If you go to the World Speedway at Western Springs look out and you may just see Mr Beechy and his lady there.

Looking like a great time Rod!! you have that "shit eating grin" LOL, now if i can only get Myles, Bob and the Camaro over for Denny Hulme next year that would be the Trifecta of FUN!!(U listening MYLES)

Dale Mathers

[MP54]

Hell Drifty, you haven't aged at all. Looking like you are enjoying yourself.

[Rod Grimwood]

Some amazing machinery around the pit area as well. Did not have enough time to get much but the magic Vanguard Ute is a genuine article, he has 2 of them. This is his toy one with Commodore running gear allround and is well done. It has air conditioning and all the gear.
The F1 speaks for itself, a darling.

What is age ?

[Rod Grimwood]

Some more of the beautiful machinery on display and giving the wheels a good old spin. So many different and beautiful sounds.

[Rod Grimwood]

A mixture, the 32 was a hoot, and it did the job as well. The old Corvette sounded nice and heavy. The Camaro is the car of Oliver, another beautifully built car and it also did the job.
The A9X's are still a favourite and Setons old Sierra was trick. Noticed he does not look like a "baby face assassin" anymore. The years roll on.

[Rod Grimwood]

These explain themself. So neat to see.
Sorry no action shots as I never got out of the pits.

We had a great start on Thursday when we arrived and were informed by MAF "there are a couple of damaged cars in there" (container) Some how the straps on the Lola (Bretts Car) which was at the front of the top row with 3 cars were undone (all 4) and she had been rolling forward when the truck slowed/stopped and back when it moved forward. With the front nose and frame removed for storage it was hitting the end of the container with the front of the tub, and the slave cylinders are mounted there, (were there). And the rear wing strut and back of gearbox was working its way through the nose of the McLaren behind. So we had a bit of work to do and no laps on Thursday for familarisation. Mrs Crawford went back to Melbourne on a mercy trip and when the replacement cylinder arrived of coarse it was different (after John had made numerous calls to confirm it was the right one). Well modifications and some kiwi engineering on the wing strut and she was as good as it would be. A lot of sweering helped the fitting of new steering rack, and modifications to cylinder and fit. The nose cone for McLaren was taken to local surf shop in Cowes and was finished in time for second practice Friday (at a cost).
Thought is that Mr Customs had been in container at Melbourne and not re-done up the straps. The padlock was cut and they were very quite and did paper work very quick at track on Thursday and dissapeared when damage was noticed and discussions started.
In all the damage was costly and caused alot of extra work and also limited time to run cars.

But in all a great place, nice people, and we finished the meeting all in one peice.

[105angria]

nice things parked around the place

[jim short]

Hi rod who had the Ferrari and did it run the old one 500?

[105angria]

car park

[Rod Grimwood]

Yes Jim both cars ran, the older one in demo and the new one in races (pretty quick). Sorry do not have names but some one will

They both had a distinctive sound, and look just great.

[jim short]

Thanks Rod looks very much like the Sp. I sent to the states a few yrs. back love to know what happend to it last I heard an ex kiwi was selling it Bonhams as a real one Doug Nye? was quite suprised when told what was under the skin!!! Poms??

[Rod Grimwood]

Funny you should mention that Jim, it came up in discussion over the weekend.

[105angria]

5000s

[105angria]

some more

[bry3500]

Loving the pics Angria..did you get any of the old Flathead V8 Specials?

[Kiwiboss]

Geee's, sounds like PI was a bit of a "Demolishion Derby" this year? and i thought we were bad enough!!!

Dale Mathers

[105angria]

assd 5000s Bry 3500 gave me a good tip with resizing, by sending an email file with pics sent as medium they are about the right file size

[105angria]

couple more

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKGJDWuCvuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPlUcJirngw

[Rod Grimwood]

Part of the unfortunate damage after some one dropped their lunch in front of field. Sad to see but all can be fixed thank god. The Custaxie (no photo) copped it's nose as well, a heap went off.

[Rod Grimwood]

Some of the Pony club exhibits, some very nice machinery on display.

[Rod Grimwood]

Some of the Group C and Group A Tourers, a favorite. Love those A9X.

[Rod Grimwood]

And some more

[Rod Grimwood]

Some intersting and well restored cars in the parade lap. Chargers are rear now. And a Plymouth Baracuda even.

[AMCO72]

Did I read that right....the Custaxie was running!! They must have been a little more relaxed/sensible with the rules over there. My goodness, some of those crashes ended up with seriously munted cars. Fortunately we haven't had too much of that at HD.......yet!! Thanks for all the pics Rod.... dont know how you had time in between all your other duties. And bry3500....some stirring 'music' to accompany the slide show; had it well turned UP. Top stuff.

[Rod Grimwood]

No Custaxie There, there was a couple (Customlines/Fords) in the public park though.

More than likely Bry3500 music, as when we meet he had just finished playing at 3 that morning. Wish we could have spent more time and had photos done as he has the HAIR to make for my lack of. Heard he is fairly handy musso after, bugger could have got him to come and sing us all to sleep. (late)

[bry3500]

No Custaxie There, there was a couple (Customlines/Fords) in the public park though.

More than likely Bry3500 music, as when we meet he had just finished playing at 3 that morning. Wish we could have spent more time and had photos done as he has the HAIR to make for my lack of. Heard he is fairly handy musso after, bugger could have got him to come and sing us all to sleep. (late)
Hahah.. my hair had been styled in the slipstream of a Sunbeam Alpine that day Rod.. I'm thinking your moustache with my hair - could be onto a winner..By the way, Jamie A, John Macdonald and friends turned up at the gig i was playing at in Melbourne last night...they Rock!!!! -Jamie reckoned we were louder than the F1's he'd been watching down at Albert Park AND there were photo's taken..

[Rod Grimwood]

Bry, drop me an email at home if you can please grimmie64@xtra.co.nz then we will have alround contact, cheers.