View Full Version : 1985 Rally of New Zealand - Digging out the Old Images
Murray Maunder
01-16-2012, 02:15 AM
It's hard to believe it's more than quarter of a century since those Audi Quattros banged their way around New Zealand roads in the hands of some of the greats of world rallying. Hannu Mikkola, Walter Rohrl, Stig Blomqist and Michelle Mouton piloted these beasts from 1983 - 85. All three Audi works entries retired in 1983 but Stig Blomqist scored the victory in 1984 on the way to his World Rally Championship.
1985 saw the short wheelbase and massaged S4 driven by Rohrl and Blomqist take on the Peugeot 205 Turbo 16s of Vatanen and Salonen for supremacy. The works entries of Toyota for Kankkunen and Waldegaard, and works Nissans for Kirkland, Mehta and Kiwi Cook would play a support role to the 4WD turbo monsters in a year which probably was the high point of the Rally of NZ for top entries.
With my first video camera I took to the backroads for the whole 4 days and shot what was possible - remarkably closeup footage of the drivers and teams at service parks, in addition to some shaky hand-held action images of the leaders as they roared by. 27 years later I have finally cut the dross (there was plenty of that!) and come up with 4 short films - one for each day of the Rally of NZ 1985. I will be posting them on YouTube and linking them to this thread for anyone interested in this great era of Rally of NZ, I hope you enjoy.
Murray :)
Murray Maunder
01-16-2012, 02:31 AM
OK, to kick off, here's Day 1, 5 minutes of amateur video highlights from the start in Auckland Domain to the dusty roads of Northland. On the road order for this first day is Blomqist, Vatanen, Rohrl, Waldegard, Salonen, Kankkunen, Mehta.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqprCsRcF5Y
If there's a bit of interest I'll post a link to Day 2, 3 and 4.
Racebred
01-16-2012, 03:48 AM
Love it... I was lucky enough to be working at this spot in the road, spot the Yellow Inter in the background and snapped these of one of the people you mentioned but alas not the same year this was 1980 :)
Thanks for jogging the memory
One of the Mercedes 500 coupes driven by Hannu Mikkola or Björn Waldegård
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Shano
01-16-2012, 04:59 AM
Fantastic stuff - give us more.
Murray Maunder
01-16-2012, 10:33 AM
OK, Day Two, Saturday dawns miserable and damp as the field heads south to Maramarua Forest and on to the King Country. Overnight leader Walter Rohrl is first car on the road from Timo Salonen's Peugeot 205 Turbo 16. Vatanen in the second Peugeot is ahead of the ever spectacular Stig in the number 1 Audi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0cVfSD_usI&list=UUssaSL2jwLUXT6u5E673cSg&index=3&feature=plcp
Swannie
01-16-2012, 07:51 PM
fantastic, thanks for posting
Milan Fistonic
01-17-2012, 07:01 AM
This is Ari Vatanen rounding what was about to become known as "Helicopter Corner".
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Can you imagine a present day safety officer's reaction to a scene like that. There were people lined up three and four deep right around the outside of the corner as well.
The area the helicopter crashed in was just behind the people on the right of the picture.
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Steve Holmes
01-17-2012, 08:06 AM
The crazy thing is Milan, the drivers probably considered the Kiwi scene quite tame compared with what they faced in some European rallies during this era, where they drove full-tilt at a wall of people standing on the road who'd become a sort of parting sea as the cars sped towards them. Completely bonkers!
Neat thread Murray, thanks for posting.
Rod Grimwood
01-17-2012, 08:28 AM
That chopper took a couple of years of our lives, we saw all the crowd and got chatting to the local farmer and he said if you go up that hill (opposite were it crashed) you can see way up the valley, and that was were he was taking his kids to get out of the way. So we followed him up there and sat down with a magic view. This is neat nobody around to annoy us and we can watch the cars all the way down the valley and into the corner and then out the other side, perfect. Then the chopper landing in the paddock over the road from us, and then it clips the little mound of dirt in front of it and "bang", Then about 20ft from us there is a thud and hunk of rotor digs into the ground, we were along way from everything and bloody near got cleaned from a bit of rotor that flew over all the others down at the corner. The farmer and us could not believe it. Any way nobody hurt and the pilot did a good job of shutting everything down while on his side.
Murray, awesome video. Gee they were quick.
Murray Maunder
01-17-2012, 08:45 AM
OK Steve, I've kept you waiting long enough.
Rod, great story - See if you can pick the shots taken at "Helicopter Corner".
Here's Day 3 of the 1985 AWA Rally of New Zealand....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhN6MOlwLeo
Enjoy :)
Chris Kitzen
01-17-2012, 09:32 AM
Awesome Murray and thanks for posting the links. I was another one who was at helicopter corner that day.
Savage stuff !! And at the risk of repeating myself, great audio !
Those Audis still give me gooseflesh, all those years later.
Nice going, Muz ! :p
Murray Maunder
01-18-2012, 10:42 AM
And for the final day of a fantastic 1985 Rally of New Zealand, we managed to get some final glimpses of these great car/driver combos for the last time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R-JloYPIAs
As last legs so often are, this was slightly anticlimatic so as a bonus here's the link to the previous year's exploits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq6SAurw4HE
Shano
01-18-2012, 06:27 PM
Gold, Murray. Makes you realise that while the current cars are fast, they are sterile.
Carlo
01-18-2012, 06:36 PM
And look at the spectator numbers, you certainly do not see that many at Rally NZ these days
Chris Kitzen
01-18-2012, 06:57 PM
And look at the spectator numbers, you certainly do not see that many at Rally NZ these days
Personally I think you can blame health and safety issues for some of that. You can only watch from designated areas and there is no way you can chase the lead cars from stage to stage as we used to do. Sprinting from stage to stage to watch the cars was a sport in itself and we walked in and out of the stage along the side of the road with it running! Can you imagine organisers letting you do that these days.
Having said all that if you went to watch the Domain Stage at Rally NZ last time it was here there was absolutely massive crowds. From memory 25000 watched it.
Murray Maunder
01-19-2012, 07:20 AM
Chris, I largely agree. One cannot imagine people with video cameras casually walking around mechanics at service parks as I was able to do in 1984/5/6.
Yes the crowds at the "mickey-mouse" stages can be controlled, herded and charged for the experience, but it isn't even a vanilla flavoured experience compared to some of those ballsy gravel roads up north, in the King Country, the pumice forestry roads in the Rotorua Lakes district etc. As GD said the sound those Audis made still tingles the nerve end, and as Rod said, they still look so bloody fast.
Happy to share the old stuff that proves that the shock the Gp B cars gave us when we experienced them in the raw, wasn't misplaced. The only place I have found such a live "edge" these days is the speedway sprintcars with 800HP turning hard left under power. Surely there's a place for excessive in motorsport!
Lee Tracey
01-20-2012, 12:15 AM
Thanks for some great memories Murray!
Cheers
Lee
Marty
01-29-2012, 02:42 AM
Here a few of my shots, I think stage 3 (Riverhead?), seconds after the photo of Reg he went into the crowd. You can see him looking out the side window as he was going backwards, I don't think anyone got hurt but there was plenty of legs in the air..
Marty
01-29-2012, 02:49 AM
Manukau City Stage. I think Bryce Platt drove the "0" car and was just as entertaining.
Marty
01-29-2012, 03:01 AM
Inky at Mystery Creek and one of the many motorhomes...........
Marty
01-29-2012, 03:04 AM
One of the Audi's and Stuart Eyre, somewhere down near Taupo or Rotarua.
Marty
01-29-2012, 03:09 AM
These are the last ones I have scanned for now, beautiful scenery in the first couple, it was a hard stage to get a good vantage point.
And I think Will Orr in the Escort.
Marty
02-05-2012, 02:03 AM
Here is the continuation of the photo of Reg Cook.
I don't know who to credit for this photo as I downloaded it from another site afew years ago, any problems and I will take it down.
stubuchanan
02-05-2012, 09:45 AM
Ahh, I remember it well. I was standing just to the left of the shot, on or behind a wire fence. People were crossing the road between cars, me included, and the two cars before Cook were the two very slow Russian Ladas. I think there were 2 minute gaps between cars at the start of the stage, but the Ladas, seeded far too high at numbers 8 and 9 were so slow that Cook was only about half a minute behind the second Lada at this point (?maybe the Lada had an off?) and the road was still full of pedestrians when he arrived, hence the above incident. Nobody seemed to be hurt and Cook shot off quickly.
On later stages some hoons were yelling abuse at Cook because of this, but when faced with a road full of spectators, he stopped pretty well, I thought.
Don't know whose photo it is; seen it quite often.
Stu
stubuchanan
02-05-2012, 10:21 AM
By the way, that's a left hand bend, and Reg had spun the car to slow it, so it wasn't going very fast.
Stu
Murray Maunder
02-05-2012, 06:23 PM
My first impression was Riverhead and possibly where I shot the Riverhead shots on day 1 of the video. Looking closely at the shots 1'30" into the Day 1 video bears a resemblance to the last photo. We were in a hurry to head up the western highway towards Warkworth to maybe just catch the Audis (which we achieved) so we didn't stick around until the Skodas and Cook arrived. Have a look and see if this is a closer, low level shot of what I got from 100 yards down the straight. Crowd numbers were so great then that vantage points only gave you a couple of seconds of clear vision of the cars, but te sound was almost worth the effort on it's own.
Rod Grimwood
02-05-2012, 08:28 PM
Mr Cook certainly scattered the crowd, so lucky no one was hurt. A couple hit the dirt but nothing serious. It was funny after Reg left, the escape road was left clear for some reason.
nakedmoose
02-05-2012, 08:41 PM
Yo Rod did you get my message about info or pics of Bryce Platts Escort ? Think i found somewhere on here you may know him ?
Cheers Nick.
Rod Grimwood
02-06-2012, 02:30 AM
Yo Rod did you get my message about info or pics of Bryce Platts Escort ? Think i found somewhere on here you may know him ?
Cheers Nick.
No i have not seen it
can you forward to me please,Ta
grimmie64@xtra.co.nz
Carlo
02-06-2012, 05:05 AM
Re the Ruski Lada's, Mike Fletcher and I had a ball with them during recce trying to find out to get them to talk to us but the 3rd man in the car kept a pretty close eye on them.
We had the 3rd Lada seeded in front of us but were luckier than Cookie as our one rolled in very close to the start in one of the very early stages and was still rocking on it's roof when we passed it. The crew were out and running up the wrong direction in the stage with the safety triangle
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