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khyndart in CA
01-08-2019, 11:17 PM
It’s that time of year again! The Taupo Historic GP is coming up at Bruce McLaren Motorsport Park on the 19th and 20th of January 2019.
Celebrating the 50th anniversary of Formula 5000, the iconic stock-block V8 single-seater category here, across the Tasman and in the United States.
Plus much more ;
Race categories:

Formula 5000s
Historic Muscle Cars
Historic Saloon Cars
Historic Sports Sedans & Allcomers
Historic Formula Fords, Formula Juniors, Historic F3, and Invited Sports Racing cars
The Carl Cox Motorsport Hyosung and Ninja Cup

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I hope to see you there.
If you see a car approaching on the wrong / right side of the road that could be me !

(Ken H)

Roger Dowding
01-09-2019, 05:33 AM
On my Bucket list, but the bucket ain't looking too good.. Would love to be there but probably not going to happen..

John McKechnie
01-09-2019, 08:31 AM
Kennys Bucket list is being looked after, he is going out a a passenger in the Team Cambridge Monaro.
He first saw it in 1969, and now is going around Taupo in it 2019.
Thats what a bucket list is.
We wont discuss here the bucket not being attended to last year
Oh, yes, the driver comes from another Bucket............

Michael Clark
01-09-2019, 10:31 AM
I've entered!

John McKechnie
01-09-2019, 06:48 PM
Historic Sports Sedan Club (Inc) are proud to be running the following cars-

Cambridge Monaro .John McKechnie.
1939 Chev Coupe ..Cam Neill
Chavenger ...........Neil Deighton
Firenza V8-..........Mark Allan
MK3 Zephyr V8 ....Bruce Goodwin
Starlet V8 ...........Richard Quinn
Custaxie 2 ..........Robert Bartley
Capri V8..............Graham Barnes
HB Torana ...........Adrian Dobbe
Escort V8 ............Robert Jack
Mazda RX8...........Dennis Running
Mazda RX8...........Jon Telford
Chev Monza .........Roger Williams
Toyota Starlet.......Peter Hooper
Holden SLR 5000..Roger Davis
Falcon XA ............Bruce Thompson
Falcon XB ............Ivan Bevins.
Marina V8 ...........Murray Park
Escort V8 ............Gordon Burr
Capri V8 .............Ron Findlay.
Consul 315 V8......Darcy May

We will be having -
Friday .......Practice.
Saturday....Practice, 2 X 6 laps.
Sunday..... 2 X 6 laps

nigel watts
01-09-2019, 07:17 PM
Looking forward to being there.

John McKechnie
01-09-2019, 07:35 PM
Great Nigel, we really missed you not being at MG Manfeild
We have been so spoiled with your pix

khyndart in CA
01-09-2019, 10:20 PM
I have invited about 16 friends and family and if they all show up along with MY Team can I get a discount on the price of my admission ?
I just hope my bus can make it to the airport on time.

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(Ken H )

Kiwiboss
01-10-2019, 12:08 AM
We have 24 cars for HMC and HSC, Bruce can put up the list but we have some pretty cool cars coming. Several of our races will be split grid between HMC and HSC along with the fastest half and slowest half, its always good trial different ideas and this event allows for that. Along with our past Legends the HMC/HSC camp will be selling T-Shirts, Calendars and other items. Looking forward to a FUN weekend.

Spgeti
01-10-2019, 12:46 AM
Thanks Dale.....lol

HMC
Dale Mathers, #23 1969 Boss Mustang
Graeme Bagrie, #58 1969 Mustang Ex Australia TransAm
Tony Mexted, #104 1970 Mustang, “PDL Tribute”
Kevin Gimblett, #3 1967 Camaro, “Earnhardt Tribute”
Glenn Allingham, #50 1970 Camaro SS
Richie Malam, #41 1968 Z/28 Camaro, A/Sedan
Sean McCaughan, #10 1971 Falcon GTHO “Geoghegan Tribute”
Mike McCaughan, #23 1971 Falcon GTHO
Brady McCaughan, #94 1970 Perana Capri
John Sampson, #117 1969 Capri RS2600

HSC
David Thompson Snr, #01 1968 Escort Mk1 Shellsport Ex Stone/Harrington
John McKechnie, #59 1968 Cambridge Monaro, Ex Black/Coppins/Thompson/Bunce
Dennis McConnell, #69 1969 Escort Mk1 Twin Cam Ex Wilson
Neville “Hillsy” Hills, #483 1975 Escort Mk2 RS2000 Ex Biddle/Moon
Colin Campbell, #4 1974 Mk1 Escort RS2000
Paul McCarthy, #49 1971 “Broadspeed” Mk1 Escort RS1600 FIA Group 2
Poul Christie, #1 1974 “Broadspeed” Mk1 Escort RS2000 FIA Group 2
Natalie Campbell, #227 1973 Capri GT3000
Pete Cowan, #174 1974 Capri GT3000
Pat Excell, #187 1965 Anglia 1500GT
Howard Wood, #46 1973 BMW 2002tii FIA Group 2
Ian Williamson, #08 1972 Mazda RX2 Coupe
Dennis Mills, #20 1971 Datsun 510
Rex Bentham, #25 1960 Mk2 Jaguar 3.8 Ex Westall

A really great turn out of 24 Cars.
We will have as our guest “Legends” for signings of posters and chatting to the public.
They are to date,
David Simpson, Kerry Grant, Alan Boyle, Ray Stone, Spencer “Spinner” Black and Dennis Marwood.

Also on display will be a few Historic Saloon Cars....

Steve Holmes
01-10-2019, 02:11 AM
Thanks Dale.....lol

HMC
Dale Mathers, #23 1969 Boss Mustang
Graeme Bagrie, #58 1969 Mustang Ex Australia TransAm
Tony Mexted, #104 1970 Mustang, “PDL Tribute”
Glenn Allingham, #50 1970 Camaro SS
Richie Malam, #41 1968 Z/28 Camaro, A/Sedan
Sean McCaughan, #10 1971 Falcon GTHO “Geoghegan Tribute”
Mike McCaughan, #23 1971 Falcon GTHO
Brady McCaughan, #94 1970 Perana Capri
John Sampson, #117 1969 Capri RS2600

HSC
David Thompson Snr, #01 1968 Escort Mk1 Shellsport Ex Stone/Harrington
John McKechnie, #1 1968 Cambridge Monaro, Ex Black/Coppins/Thompson/Bunce
Dennis McConnell, #69 1969 Escort Mk1 Twin Cam Ex Wilson
Neville “Hillsy” Hills, #483 1975 Escort Mk2 RS2000 Ex Biddle/Moon
Colin Campbell, #4 1974 Mk1 Escort RS2000
Paul McCarthy, #49 1971 “Broadspeed” Mk1 Escort RS1600 FIA Group 2
Poul Christie, #1 1974 “Broadspeed” Mk1 Escort RS2000 FIA Group 2
Natalie Campbell, #227 1973 Capri GT3000
Pete Cowan, #174 1974 Capri GT3000
Pat Excell, #187 1965 Anglia 1500GT
Howard Wood, #46 1973 BMW 2002tii FIA Group 2
Ian Williamson, #08 1972 Mazda RX2 Coupe
Dennis Mills, #20 1971 Datsun 510
Rex Bentham, #25 1960 Mk2 Jaguar 3.8 Ex Westall

A really great turn out of 24 Cars.
We will have as our guest “Legends” for signings of posters and chatting to the public.
They are to date,
David Simpson, Kerry Grant, Alan Boyle, Ray Stone and Dennis Marwood.

Also on display will be a few Historic Saloon Cars....

No Nigel MacDonald?

Spgeti
01-10-2019, 02:15 AM
Maybe a late entry. Apache has engine issues after the last meeting and Nigel is trying to have the “Dawson” Mustang there but has a bit of work to do.

Roger Dowding
01-11-2019, 03:45 AM
Maybe a late entry. Apache has engine issues after the last meeting and Nigel is trying to have the “Dawson” Mustang there but has a bit of work to do.

Bruce a great line-up.

This car " Neville “Hillsy” Hills, #483 1975 Escort Mk2 RS2000 Ex Biddle/Moon " I presume the Moon is Barry Moon - upholsterer [ retired ] and former Austin Healey owner and racer, after the Escort !! .. ??

Spgeti
01-11-2019, 05:36 AM
Bruce a great line-up.

This car " Neville “Hillsy” Hills, #483 1975 Escort Mk2 RS2000 Ex Biddle/Moon " I presume the Moon is Barry Moon - upholsterer [ retired ] and former Austin Healey owner and racer, after the Escort !! .. ??

Hi Roger,

Yes a good line up and we are very pleased with the commitment by the guys and girls getting in behind this event.

Yes it is Barry Moon’s old car.

Kiwiboss
01-11-2019, 08:45 PM
We're still missing a few HMC cars which should have made the effort but it is what it is and we'll have a bunch of fun anyway which to me is most important. After 7 years of helping Tony, Chris and Jim run the Festivals at Hampton and bringing the Aussie ATA guys over four times(never easy) im looking forward to a more relaxed low key event like this.

Roger Dowding
01-11-2019, 10:32 PM
We're still missing a few HMC cars which should have made the effort but it is what it is and we'll have a bunch of fun anyway which to me is most important. After 7 years of helping Tony, Chris and Jim run the Festivals at Hampton and bringing the Aussie ATA guys over four times(never easy) im looking forward to a more relaxed low key event like this.

Hopefully a group photo with You, Ken H, John Mck Bruce D and Nigel W .. and others .. Enjoy the Days ..

Spgeti
01-11-2019, 11:57 PM
Hopefully a group photo with You, Ken H, John Mck Bruce D and Nigel W .. and others .. Enjoy the Days ..

Geez, who would want a photo with all us ugly buggers in it....

Roger Dowding
01-12-2019, 05:12 AM
Geez, who would want a photo with all us ugly buggers in it....

TRS would -maybe Steve H the owner of the forum will be there too - the younger " bugger "
Cheers Bruce !!

Roger Dowding
01-12-2019, 05:15 AM
Kennys Bucket list is being looked after, he is going out a a passenger in the Team Cambridge Monaro.
He first saw it in 1969, and now is going around Taupo in it 2019.
Thats what a bucket list is.
We wont discuss here the bucket not being attended to last year
Oh, yes, the driver comes from another Bucket............

Tell Kenny - to take extra Sock and U.....pants just in case..

Guys - unfortunately not a goer for this year - but, I will be better organised for 2020.. Sorry Ken H,our meeting is still a way away .. Cheers

Spgeti
01-12-2019, 06:36 AM
TRS would -maybe Steve H the owner of the forum will be there too - the younger " bugger "
Cheers Bruce !!

Yes there will be a few of us....Steve H, Dale M, Tony R, John Mc, Nigel, Ken, Bruce T, Paul B....and others

You need to be here Roger....obviously she who needs to be obeyed has given the orders.....

Paul B
01-12-2019, 06:39 AM
Roger, just a short drive for you, It would be great to see you at the Taupo GP.... no pressure!
Cheers

khyndart in CA
01-12-2019, 07:43 AM
C'mon Roger,
The "stars" might not align like this again !
KH

Spgeti
01-13-2019, 03:49 AM
The “Legends” attending the Historic Taupo Grand Prix are...

David Simpson, Kerry Grant, Alan Boyle, Ray Stone, Spencer “Spinner” Black, Dennis Marwood and Jim Palmer.

Thanks to the above for putting the time in to come and to Dale and John for their efforts in organising this.

Roger Dowding
01-15-2019, 07:52 AM
C'mon Roger,
The "stars" might not align like this again !
KH

Ken H, Paul B and others, sadly my "Stars" aren't going to align either.. so missing out.
Seeing the " Legends " list what a great group of guys ..
as Bruce says

" David Simpson, Kerry Grant, Alan Boyle, Ray Stone, Spencer “Spinner” Black, Dennis Marwood and Jim Palmer.

Thanks to the above for putting the time in to come and to Dale and John for their efforts in organising this. "

Enjoy the weekend.

Cheers

Roger

Spgeti
01-17-2019, 03:22 AM
I have just heard from one of our group that has arrived at Taupo and it is stinking HOT....

khyndart in CA
01-17-2019, 03:48 AM
Bruce,
It is just the opposite here at LAX right now where it is cold,windy and wet.
I .might have to borrow a pair of "Grimmie's " shorts !
Ken H [

nigel watts
01-17-2019, 03:55 AM
I have just heard from one of our group that has arrived at Taupo and it is stinking HOT....

Yep, currently 30.8 in the shade where I am. I think it's supposed to be about 27 in Taupo on Saturday & Sunday which probably means 30 or so at the track.:cool:

John McKechnie
01-17-2019, 05:10 AM
Man, its hot enough here and I am about to have my 5th swim of the day...also may have another one after walking the dogs at 11pm tonight.
And I have to leave this for 4 days.......tough days in the office ahead.

Spgeti
01-17-2019, 05:15 AM
I know one of our Racers has a cool suit....he thought ahead.

John McKechnie
01-17-2019, 05:32 AM
Wet the underwear-cold water- or put them in the freezer........its a cool start.

Frosty5
01-17-2019, 07:56 AM
Wet the underwear-cold water- or put them in the freezer........its a cool start.

Hi John, have PM'd you

Roger Dowding
01-17-2019, 08:36 PM
Man, its hot enough here and I am about to have my 5th swim of the day...also may have another one after walking the dogs at 11pm tonight.
And I have to leave this for 4 days.......tough days in the office ahead.

Been 28 or 29 officially in Taurang the last few days, over 30 I would say !!.

Have a great weekend Guys, and good clean Racing - they are more expensive to repair these days.

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Drive Safely and remember ...... !!!!!

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Those Boys in Blue, will be watching You.

Cheers

Roger D.

PS Ken H, so sorry to be missing the event - have a great time with all those Guys and Girls.
Say Hi to Alan Boyle from me - he just had his 77th Birthday ..

ERC
01-20-2019, 11:13 AM
Wet the underwear-cold water- or put them in the freezer........its a cool start.

Wetting not recommended John. Suits are flameproof - not fireproof and not really heat proof. In a fire, you'd probably get scalded through the heat transfer. Which is why we always recommended you dried your suit between races.

For the same reason, you shouldn't really wear a watch with a metal strap. Having said that, the risk of fire is relatively slim, based on the number of races most of us have attended over the years, despite the new rules with underwear and balaclavas etc. But, it is still a risk, no matter how small that risk is - but then so is being hit in the face by a wayward bird when driving a single seater.

khyndart in CA
01-20-2019, 06:57 PM
I am about to head out through the Waikato and Bay of Plenty on the way to Auckland after a most enjoyable 3 days at Taupo.
Thanks to so many of you, especially John, Bruce, Chad, Angus nd Rowan for putting up with me ( especially in confined sleeping quarters ! )
Meeting up with old school friends, relatives, chatting with racing legends and Mr. Holmes was like magic to me.( Bucket list material )
Plus wonderful racing..great stuff. Thanks to all and soon I will be heading back to winter but my batteries have been fully recharged.
Cheers
Ken H

John McKechnie
01-21-2019, 09:46 AM
The Demos proved to be a real hit for HSSC fans and entertaining for the spectators

I gave the Team Cambridge Monaro to Rowan Harman..aussiemonza on TRS ...he did 2 X 10 lap sessions with Ken Hydman..after 50 years he finally got his just desserts.
Rowan had been the custodian of the Monaros Moon manifold and 4 X 48IDA Webers for many years, so this was just reward for him....also convinced him that there was NO way he could buy them back off me.
Bruce took his buddy Chad out as well in Blue at the same time and all of a sudden it was like Coppins and Moffat in some very stylish overtaking and cornering

Bruce took his 2 daughters out in Blue, we also took Scott and Grant Hawkins-our greatest fans- for a coordinated close passing sessions in the 2 cars.

Also took some of the Taupo flaggies for 3 lap sprints for some excitement as they gave us so much of their time in supporting race day. I had to keep reminding my passengers that we as we were Historics we were actually supposed to slide through the corners

Graham Barnes son Shane also took the old mans Capri for a tankfull of fun.

I was geared up to give Spinner Black some laps in his old Monaro,, but unfortunately he didnt make it

Biggest smile of the day came from Jon Telford, Roger Davis and myself after finally getting Jen Mossman to get behind the wheel of the Mazda RX8 that was built originally just for her. She went out on the track, last seen beating Roger Williams lap record..still hasnt come in yet so we are going to send out the search parties.

Thanks BMMP for scheduling spare time between races for family and friends to enjoy the cars at pace on the track

Monaro and Blue probably did a full season of racing with demos and I think I know Taupo track better.

Extra special big thank you to Angus Fogg who was worked mercilessly for 3 days fixing all manner of car ailments, such as -hub seals on Starlets,test driving Marinas, getting new driveshaft for Blue Friday night at Vegas and checking the water on the Monaro.

Hard Workers Award would have to go to Paul B....after working tirelessly in the HMC/HSC marquee, he finally emerged for his Demo, and the cars had been packed away...next time buddy.

Bruce302
01-21-2019, 10:09 AM
I am about to head out through the Waikato and Bay of Plenty on the way to Auckland after a most enjoyable 3 days at Taupo.
Thanks to so many of you, especially John, Bruce, Chad, Angus nd Rowan for putting up with me ( especially in confined sleeping quarters ! )
Meeting up with old school friends, relatives, chatting with racing legends and Mr. Holmes was like magic to me.( Bucket list material )
Plus wonderful racing..great stuff. Thanks to all and soon I will be heading back to winter but my batteries have been fully recharged.
Cheers
Ken H

Glad you enjoyed your self Kenny, the travel distance shows what a dedicated fan you are and your tireless work is very much appreciated.

Bruce.

Roger Dowding
01-21-2019, 06:06 PM
The Demos proved to be a real hit for HSSC fans and entertaining for the spectators

I gave the Team Cambridge Monaro to Rowan Harman..aussiemonza on TRS ...he did 2 X 10 lap sessions with Ken Hydman..after 50 years he finally got his just desserts.
Rowan had been the custodian of the Monaros Moon manifold and 4 X 48IDA Webers for many years, so this was just reward for him....also convinced him that there was NO way he could buy them back off me.
Bruce took his buddy Chad out as well in Blue at the same time and all of a sudden it was like Coppins and Moffat in some very stylish overtaking and cornering

Bruce took his 2 daughters out in Blue, we also took Scott and Grant Hawkins-our greatest fans- for a coordinated close passing sessions in the 2 cars.

Also took some of the Taupo flaggies for 3 lap sprints for some excitement as they gave us so much of their time in supporting race day. I had to keep reminding my passengers that we as we were Historics we were actually supposed to slide through the corners

Graham Barnes son Shane also took the old mans Capri for a tankfull of fun.

I was geared up to give Spinner Black some laps in his old Monaro,, but unfortunately he didnt make it

Biggest smile of the day came from Jon Telford, Roger Davis and myself after finally getting Jen Mossman to get behind the wheel of the Mazda RX8 that was built originally just for her. She went out on the track, last seen beating Roger Williams lap record..still hasnt come in yet so we are going to send out the search parties.

Thanks BMMP for scheduling spare time between races for family and friends to enjoy the cars at pace on the track

Monaro and Blue probably did a full season of racing with demos and I think I know Taupo track better.

Extra special big thank you to Angus Fogg who was worked mercilessly for 3 days fixing all manner of car ailments, such as -hub seals on Starlets,test driving Marinas, getting new driveshaft for Blue Friday night at Vegas and checking the water on the Monaro.

Hard Workers Award would have to go to Paul B....after working tirelessly in the HMC/HSC marquee, he finally emerged for his Demo, and the cars had been packed away...next time buddy.

John Mck .. thanks for the story - A great weekend for you all, Cheers.
P S - Spgeti has posted quite a few photos on a Facebook page - including your Beauty in the pits and on track.
With his permission I could edit and post them on here - give me a day or two to organise..
Cheers
Roger D

Spgeti
01-21-2019, 07:10 PM
Help yourself Roger and just please credit the Photographer. Stuart Short and Nigel Watts have taken some fantastic photos.
Mike Feisst runs our Website and is on TRS.

HMC/HSC had one of the best race events we have ever had. Great racing by our Racers, no damage apart from breakages, and a very happy team of helpers.

I will leave it up to Dale to give a report on the action.

Cheers

Roger Dowding
01-22-2019, 05:39 AM
Help yourself Roger and just please credit the Photographer. Stuart Short and Nigel Watts have taken some fantastic photos.
Mike Feisst runs our Website and is on TRS.

HMC/HSC had one of the best race events we have ever had. Great racing by our Racers, no damage apart from breakages, and a very happy team of helpers.

I will leave it up to Dale to give a report on the action.

Cheers

Cheers Spgeti, will of course credit the photog's .. So pleased to read it was a great event ..

This from Nigel W .. to start ..

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Bruce302
01-22-2019, 08:47 AM
Jen Mossman got some track time in her Chev powered Mazda RX 7. This car was built for Jen a few years back and started with a 327 small block. Now owned by John Telford who kindly offered Jen the drive.
Jen is the only female, or one of the very few to break 60 seconds in a saloon car at Bay Park.

The car was built it maybe 1991 Its a tube chassis built by her ex husband Greg. They brought the Grant Brennans RX7 and dumped most of it but kept the IMSA body kit. Jennifer had the ex Brett Willis commodore for a few season prior, so they stripped it out and used the mechanicals in the Mazda.
The best bits the engine. ( the bones of it now in the Graeme Park Marina). its a Fisher 310 cube, and powered the 1982 US Transam championship winning DeAtley Camaro, ( with drivers Willie T Ribbs, and David Hobbs)
Additional info by Roger Davis.

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John McKechnie
01-22-2019, 09:47 AM
Thanks Bruce-
http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?1373-Historic-Sport-Sedans/page48

#941 if you want to see this car when Jen was racing it...Primo colours
Maybe someone can shift it here.

Got this from Grimmie, is this related ?-The car in 1984 won the trans Am series with David Hobbs driving it and later by Billy T Ribbs. It was car 28 of a 2 car team owned by Portland Industrialist De Atley and sponsored by Budweiser.

khyndart in CA
01-23-2019, 12:04 AM
Some Formula 5000 photos from Taupo.

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(Ken H photos..)

John McKechnie
01-23-2019, 12:24 AM
So Kenny...did anyone notice you stepped in for Ken Smith for a session ?

khyndart in CA
01-23-2019, 12:45 AM
Yes John, we had some fun with that one as I was talking to Ken about that if he felt as crook as he did at Laguna Seca that I could be his back up at Taupo because they wouldn't have had to adjust the seat or belts much and just blank off the Smith bit ! I would probably have stalled it and the real Kenny would have been blamed ! ;)

khyndart in CA
01-23-2019, 01:28 AM
Hyndman was a bit nervous before taking his very FIRST ride in a competition car. The Cambridge Monaro. (Always watched from the sidelines.)
US Historic Sedan driver, Chad Raynal was there to try and calm me down !
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Once I got on board with veteran Australian driver Rowan Harman, I was soon at ease even with a lack places to hang on besides the inside door trim ! We had to have an Aussie drive the Holden Monaro !
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Bruce Thompson and Chad lined up in the"Big Blue " Falcon and the racing was on !
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But in the end we came through to win this challenge in the Monaro ;)

(Ken "living a dream" H)

John McKechnie
01-23-2019, 04:50 AM
John notes after Taupo-
1-Must tighten hood lining up above drivers head.
2-Must change white string holding ignition key/petrol cap key to a more blending colour.
3-Must view movie -Talladega Nights

khyndart in CA
01-23-2019, 07:22 AM
One demo lap of Taupo in the "Cambridge" Monaro. The movie is a bit rough as I tried to hang on and hold the camera at the same time.
Thanks to John (The owner ) and Rowan, the driver.
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https://youtu.be/-k5_6zGgI8g
(Turn up the volume ! It is a great sound. )

(Ken H )

Oldfart
01-23-2019, 06:56 PM
John notes after Taupo-
1-Must tighten hood lining up above drivers head.
2-Must change white string holding ignition key/petrol cap key to a more blending colour.

Hood lining, upholsterer....?

John McKechnie
01-23-2019, 07:15 PM
Lame excuse from a Motor Trimmer I know, but currently you can only see this from the passenger seat....a place I dont visit.
And I wont say- Factory finish .
My Boss Andy stickers I thought looked better on Blues rear wing , than on the front wing.
Ken also did some laps in the Little Gray Mouse

khyndart in CA
01-23-2019, 08:37 PM
No John, I did not get to go out with Adrian Dobbe in the 1969 Vauxhall ViVa # 40 ( the Little Gray Mouse )as I was too busy changing my underwear after the ride in the Monaro !
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khyndart in CA
01-24-2019, 12:50 AM
Some of the Historic Muscle Cars and Historic Saloons going out to practice.
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Glenn Allingham in his 1970 Chevrolet Camaro # 50

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Dale Mathers in his 1969 Boss 302 Mustang # 23

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Tony Mexted in his 1970 Mustang Fastback # 104

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Graeme Bagrie chases the group onto the track in his 1969 Mustang Fastback # 58

(Ken H photos )

khyndart in CA
01-24-2019, 06:10 AM
More of the HMC and HSC cars going out for a practice session.

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Sean McCaughan 1971 Ford Falcon GTHO # 10

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Brady McCaughan in his 1972 Ford Capri # 94 ( I can imagine this family having fun testing their cars !)

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Richie Malam in the ex Steve Elliott 1968 Chev. Camaro # 41

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Mike McCaughan in his 1970 Ford Falcon GT # 21 (Is there anyone left in Waipapa when this family goes to the races ? )

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John Sampson in his 1970 Ford Capri RS2600 # 117

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Kevin Gimblett in his 1967 Chevrolet Camaro # 3

(Ken H photos )

khyndart in CA
01-25-2019, 12:55 AM
Some Historic Sports Sedans and Allcomers.
Where else in the world would one come across a group such as this, wonderful people with exciting cars with all sorts of engines and custom built bodywork and "heaps of grunt". My photos don't do them justice here but I will try.
Note the alterations on this 1981 Morris Marina # 34 driven by Murray Park.
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The Hillman "Chavenger" # 77 of the amazing, ageless, Neil Deighton of Mangaweka.
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The man who tirelessly keeps this class going, John McKechnie, drives by in his 1969 "Cambridge "Holden Monaro, # 59 (note the clean wheels !)
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John's other car is the 1973 Ford Falcon XA Coupe # 83 ably driven by our good friend, Bruce Thompson.
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(Ken H photos..)

khyndart in CA
01-25-2019, 06:39 AM
Some people shots.
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L to R.
Rowan Harman (Australian Motoring Events Manager and classic car driver etc, )
Dale Mathers (Mr. Boss 302 Mustang )
Jim Barclay (Mr. Whenuapai )
John McKechnie (Mr Historic Sports Sedans and Allcomers )
Steve Holmes (Mr Roaring Season himself) What a pleasure it was for me to meet Steve finally and to listen to him and his wealth of knowledge in discussions with others was a real treat for me.

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For instance just listening in on Steve's discussion with Grant Sprague and the Ernie and Gary Sprague stories was so interesting

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Also some would bring a packet of old photos to share and it was neat to hear the recollections of this group.
Chad Raynal, John McKechnie, Bruce Thompson, ? and Steve Holmes.

Perhaps my moment came with meeting up with Dennis Marwood on right and Jim Palmer and we discussed old Waikato stories from Kereone to Whitiora.
Jim was going off to see the Lotus 18 that he drove at the 1961 Horohora Hillclimb to set the best time ever and he said that beat Bruce McLaren's record for that hillclimb which I did not realize before.
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Ken H photos.

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Jim Palmer 1960 Formula Junior Lotus 18 that he sold to Ross Greenville.
Horahora Hill Climb.April 1961
Near the Waikato River.

Steve Holmes
01-25-2019, 06:56 AM
Some people shots.
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L to R.
Rowan Harman (Australian Motoring Events Manager and classic car driver etc, )
Dale Mathers (Mr. Boss 302 Mustang )
Jim Barclay (Mr. Whenuapai )
John McKechnie (Mr Historic Sports Sedans and Allcomers )
Steve Holmes (Mr Roaring Season himself) What a pleasure it was for me to meet Steve finally and to listen to him and his wealth of knowledge in discussions with others was a real treat for me.



It was a pleasure to finally meet you too Ken! I really enjoyed the weekend, although I was starting to lose my voice by Sunday pm, from talking too much. By the way, great job polishing the wheels on John's Monaro. They were the shiniest in the paddock.

aussiemonza
01-25-2019, 11:39 PM
Hyndman was a bit nervous before taking his very FIRST ride in a competition car. The Cambridge Monaro. (Always watched from the sidelines.)
US Historic Sedan driver, Chad Raynal was there to try and calm me down !
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Once I got on board with veteran Australian driver Rowan Harman, I was soon at ease even with a lack places to hang on besides the inside door trim ! We had to have an Aussie drive the Holden Monaro !
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Bruce Thompson and Chad lined up in the"Big Blue " Falcon and the racing was on !
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But in the end we came through to win this challenge in the Monaro ;)

(Ken "living a dream" H)

Huge weekend for me and made all the better to give them Webers a blow through!!! Couldn't have made the laps without Kenny's navigation. Huge thanks to John McKechnie for the drive in the Cambridge Monaro. Bruce Thompson and Family are the best hosts at the Howick Hilton. The Inaugural ANZUS IMSA Monza Conference was also held at Taupo with Guest Speaker Chad Raynal, Angus Fogg, Roger Williamson and yours truly forming the core group. More hospitality on the Monday following with visits to Angus Fogg, Wayne Anderson and Tony Antonievich workshops. I will get to posting some images after a hectic week at Bathurst. Thanks again to all, fantastic!!!

aussiemonza
01-25-2019, 11:42 PM
John notes after Taupo-
1-Must tighten hood lining up above drivers head.
2-Must change white string holding ignition key/petrol cap key to a more blending colour.
3-Must view movie -Talladega Nights

... please add

4- Tighten Interior Mirror
5- (if possible) move throttle towards brake pedal to allow heal-toe.

khyndart in CA
01-26-2019, 01:15 AM
Some more of the Formula 5000 group. Some may be repeats but I have been enthralled with these machines since Bay Park in 1968.

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Tony Roberts in his 1970 McLaren M10B # 7 (Built at Trojan.)

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Brett Willis in his 1973 Lola T 330 # 16

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Aaron Burson in his 1973 McRae GM1 # 29


(Ken H photos )

khyndart in CA
01-26-2019, 01:32 AM
Continuing the F 5000 at Taupo.

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Kevin Ingram in the "Viceroy" 1976 Lola T 332 # 30

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British driver, Greg Thornton, was very competitive in his 1973 Chevron B24 # 32

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Tony Galbraith in his 1974 Lola T 332 # 88

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Glenn Richards in his 1975 Lola T 400 # 99


(Ken H photos )

khyndart in CA
01-26-2019, 01:42 AM
Last of my F5000 photos.

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David Banks in his 1976 Lola T 332 # 50

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Michael Collins in his 1972 McRae GM1 # 94

A driver who never fails to impress, Ken Smith in his 1976 Lola T332 # 11.

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(Ken H photos.. )

Bruce302
01-26-2019, 03:24 AM
Huge weekend for me and made all the better to give them Webers a blow through!!! Couldn't have made the laps without Kenny's navigation. Huge thanks to John McKechnie for the drive in the Cambridge Monaro. Bruce Thompson and Family are the best hosts at the Howick Hilton. The Inaugural ANZUS IMSA Monza Conference was also held at Taupo with Guest Speaker Chad Raynal, Angus Fogg, Roger Williamson and yours truly forming the core group. More hospitality on the Monday following with visits to Angus Fogg, Wayne Anderson and Tony Antonievich workshops. I will get to posting some images after a hectic week at Bathurst. Thanks again to all, fantastic!!!

Chuck, it was our pleasure to have you here, glad you enjoyed your short stay here, but we packed a bit in.
I can confirm that you hold the lap record for Taupo by an invited Australian in the Team Cambridge Monaro whilst having Kenny H navigating. No mean feat

We are looking forward to the next ANZUS IMSA Conference.

B.

khyndart in CA
01-27-2019, 07:35 AM
Some more of the Historic Sports Sedans and Allcomer entrants.

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Roger Davis in his 1976 Holden Torana SLR 5000 # 68

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Ivan Bevins in his mighty powerful 6 litre 1974 Ford Falcon XBGT # 80

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Robert Bartley in the 1955 Ford Customline "Custaxie" # 50

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Peter Hooper in his 1982 Toyota Starlet # 7

(Ken H photos..)

khyndart in CA
01-27-2019, 07:49 AM
HSS & A class continued.

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Cam Neil in his beautiful 1939 Chevrolet Coupe # 39

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Darcy May in the 1963 Ford Consul 315 # 63

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Graham Barnes in his 1970 slightly modified Ford Capri # 118

John McKechnie
01-27-2019, 08:17 AM
Chad and I were standing with Graham and his crew next to this Capri.
I said to Chad- Did you ever see the movie "Shaker Run" in USA ?
Yep, many times.
Well, here is the Capri that was yellow in it.
No s**t ?
Yep, the same one.
I left Chad and Graham to talk into the afternoon.
Thats what these Historics are all about...the cars and their lives,they keep on living.
He also told me there exists stateside a V8 Morris Minor.....has Minor Trouble on the side.

khyndart in CA
01-27-2019, 08:39 PM
My final photos of the HSS & A class cars.

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Jon Telford in his 1991 "RX 8" Mazda RX 7 # 69

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Gordon Burr in his 1968 Ford Escort # 567

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Mark Allan in his 1972 Vauxhall Firenza. # 93

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Roger Williams in his recently acquired 1975 Chevrolet Monza # 5

(Ken H photos..my apologies to those I did not capture in this class.)

khyndart in CA
01-27-2019, 09:11 PM
I feel very privileged to have had to opportunity to see some of these cars race back in their heyday and then to see them so beautifully restored and prepared to race here again at meetings like this many years later. The camaraderie and support amongst you all was very impressive.
I have to admit I have a soft spot for Dale Mathers 1969 302 Boss Mustang which is so well presented and it reminds me of the events I went to in Australia in 1970 and watched Allan Moffat throw his Boss Mustang # 9 around.
Well done everyone I thoroughly enjoyed my 3 days with you.

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Thanks Dale for a beautiful Mustang. (Don't forget to use that calendar !)

I do have to admit that I was disappointed in the size of the general public at an event such as this, that has such great racing with little damage done to these historic treasures. As this last photo shows hardly anyone around apart from the participants plus their friends and families etc.
As Fred Dagg used to sing "You don't know how lucky you are."
Anyway that is enough out of me and I am signing off.
Cheers,
Ken H

khyndart in CA
02-14-2019, 03:58 AM
A part of me has not come all the way back from my time at Taupo. Today I found some camera photos that had been hidden away and although it has been 5 weeks since the event I still wanted to share these pix of my guest ride in John McKechnie's 1969 "Cambridge" Monaro with Australian Rowan Harman driving. Rowan is the promoter of the Australian Touring Car Masters series and thoroughly enjoyed his time in NZ before heading back for the Bathurst Meet.
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Rowan Harman at ease behind the wheel of the Holden Monaro.

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And away we go with Hyndman just hanging on and trying to hold my camera as we exit Turn 1 heading toward Turn 2.

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Heading along the short straight towards Turn 6

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Rounding Turn 7. I was surprised at the elevation compared to how it looks from the stands.


(Ken H )

khyndart in CA
02-14-2019, 04:18 AM
The Monaro ride continued.
Going around Turn 8.
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Along the straight toward the Turn 11 Hairpin corner.
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On to the long back straight.
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On to the start / finish straight. Note the high coolant temp. reading on the middle gauge. (John will describe why.)
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So that is one of my laps around Taupo with photos taken from under the dash ! (An unforgettable experience for me and as mentioned before, a huge thanks to John McKechnie and all of our "Crew" and Rowan Harman.)

(Ken H.)

John McKechnie
02-14-2019, 05:57 AM
Monaro just got through this event with careful watching of the water level.
High temperature was caused by a cracked block in one cylinder.
Low compression engine was pumping water out, at least was not getting in.
Discovered this 2 days before Taupo, did not want to park it as there were some
major committments-
Had Rowan coming over to drive his old Moon manifold and Webers,also couldnt disappoint Ken, also Scott, Grant ,flaggies.....
Most important though was to have it running in the first ever Historic Saloon Car race..which it did.
So its off to Uncle Jims to have a sleeve fitted, rest of the motor is fine, reassemble and ready for Legends.
And no, a replacement Dart block was never considered...its 010 blocks for the Monaro.

Steve Holmes
02-15-2019, 06:51 AM
So its off to Uncle Jims to have a sleeve fitted, rest of the motor is fine, reassemble and ready for Legends.
And no, a replacement Dart block was never considered...its 010 blocks for the Monaro.

Good on you John for doing it right. Be much easier to buy a new Dart block off the shelf, but it just wouldn't be right. Have you managed to find a replacement 010 block?

Spgeti
02-15-2019, 07:18 AM
Your a shining example to all those out there that own a historic racing saloon, doing it as it should be and retaining its originality.

Well done mate.

Kiwiboss
02-16-2019, 04:17 AM
Thanks Ken, for some reason I missed this posting of yours...…however I do appreciate your kind words. I've always been a 69 Muz fan since the days when I saw the Moff stang and Jims siddy both at Bay Park and I also remember the 70 PDL in lace green paint work, quite radical in its day.

I actually agree with you Ken, "WE don't know how lucky we are" but these days there's never a sizable crowd at motor racing, well certainly not enough to pay for anything that's for sure...………..mind you I've been to Monterey a few times to find im the only one in the grandstand as well.

Take care. Dale M


I feel very privileged to have had to opportunity to see some of these cars race back in their heyday and then to see them so beautifully restored and prepared to race here again at meetings like this many years later. The camaraderie and support amongst you all was very impressive.
I have to admit I have a soft spot for Dale Mathers 1969 302 Boss Mustang which is so well presented and it reminds me of the events I went to in Australia in 1970 and watched Allan Moffat throw his Boss Mustang # 9 around.
Well done everyone I thoroughly enjoyed my 3 days with you.

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Thanks Dale for a beautiful Mustang. (Don't forget to use that calendar !)

I do have to admit that I was disappointed in the size of the general public at an event such as this, that has such great racing with little damage done to these historic treasures. As this last photo shows hardly anyone around apart from the participants plus their friends and families etc.
As Fred Dagg used to sing "You don't know how lucky you are."
Anyway that is enough out of me and I am signing off.
Cheers,
Ken H

John McKechnie
02-16-2019, 05:26 AM
At Rebel Roundup , Pukekohe today, there was a large crowd, people in the stands were standing and cheering as the 10 Historic Sports Sedans entertained them in 2 X 30 minute sessions.
Great track time for $20
Everybody knew how lucky they were today

Kiwiboss
02-17-2019, 01:20 AM
At Rebel Roundup , Pukekohe today, there was a large crowd, people in the stands were standing and cheering as the 10 Historic Sports Sedans entertained them in 2 X 30 minute sessions.
Great track time for $20
Everybody knew how lucky they were today

Seen there was a large crowd that might be the secret John, mixing events like this with historic motor racing...……..thoughts?
Dale M

Spgeti
02-17-2019, 02:11 AM
Looks like a great event which pulls the punters in. Basically a rock a billy event with HSS doing 30 minutes of lap time in display mode.
Certainly looks well patronised.

John McKechnie
02-17-2019, 02:52 AM
Seen there was a large crowd that might be the secret John, mixing events like this with historic motor racing...……..thoughts?
Dale M

OK, last year Adrian and friends attended as a wild card.
Organizers liked us so much they wanted us back doing the same....display, run, noisey V8s, passenger rides.
This event combines many thing of which we were only a minor part....
Hot Rods...Sports Sedans are hot rods., never homologated or mainstream
Pukekohe....Auckland home of motor racing, and strong seat of hot rodding. My Monaro lived out here,
Hot Rod event like this is perfect for us.
As Spagetti said...a great event which pulls the punters in.

Bruce302
02-17-2019, 06:28 AM
There was a display time when the attendees could walk around the HSS cars and a selection of the Hot Rods on the front straight.
It was good talking with people who love all things automotive, and from the people I spoke to they loved seeing the cars on the track, making noise and a spectacle.

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nigel watts
02-17-2019, 07:49 PM
Yes I agree. Hot rod and classic car shows tend to attract good size crowds - you only have to go to the Whangamata Beach Hop to see that. From a spectator viewpoint it would be great to have, at the next Rebel Roundup, more HMC and Sports Sedans plus some classic racing motorcycles limited to say 350cc and 500cc. Classic British bikes, Nortons, Matchless, AJS, BSA, Triumph etc also have quite a large following. So the theory is, that if you provide a quality hot rod display coupled with some classic car and bike racing, the crowds will come, and maybe some will get to enjoy this class of racing for the first time and get hooked. I wouldn't mind betting that heaps of potential fans don't know anything about classic motor racing. Just a thought.

Paul B
02-17-2019, 09:39 PM
Agree with Nigel, Some Historic motorsport events need to cover a broader automotive interest level, plus event location for ease of spectators attendance, which, in turn will potentially grow Historic motorsport interest.
Separate grouped displays of cars such as, Schedule K, FIA, T&C, etc.
Classic Bikes are a great idea.

Spgeti
02-17-2019, 10:25 PM
At most of our race meets that we attend, HMC/HSC, we always get one or two enquires from the spectators.
Taupo HGP was no different and we had a couple of serious inquires and both will eventually be seen on the grid.
I am working with one of those inquires at the moment on car regulation etc and it is progressing as we speak.
Not all race events have the facilities for car shows etc but the Rebel Round Up is an ideal event for this type of display as it is not a race meeting so it lends itself to display and promote.

Leadfoot also is a good example of this type of event, variety and it attracts a huge crowd.

John McKechnie
02-18-2019, 12:16 AM
The most important thing here is that this formula works, and they want us back next year.
Great fun , and I will make sure Blues battery has a decent charge then
Huge thanks to Cam bringing his 1939 Chev Coupe up from Taupo... theres a dedicated rodder for you.
Great to see Craig in the Zephyr MK2 with stacks through the bonnet...Rod Coppins drove this at Ardmore, Jim Richards drove it at the Wellington street race. Tony Antonievich brought out the Custom Card Camaro for a fun run so did Jamie Bennenbroek- Torana XU1 V8, Ron Findlay ex Graeme Clarke Capri V8, Roger Davis-Torana SLR5000 and Graeme Park.Marian Coupe V8
Also big rap for Adrian Dobbe , Club Captain for running our end,having the HSSC popup there and our souvenir T-shirts and hats available to the public....and running his Viva Torana XU1
Never felt like a race day, different atmosphere...laid back fun club day..

Kiwiboss
02-18-2019, 05:55 AM
There was a display time when the attendees could walk around the HSS cars and a selection of the Hot Rods on the front straight.
It was good talking with people who love all things automotive, and from the people I spoke to they loved seeing the cars on the track, making noise and a spectacle.

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To run this as an actual motor racing meeting would require MSNZ licensing and that maybe were the problems begin...…..Dale M

nigel watts
02-18-2019, 06:10 AM
So instead of promoting and having a "race meeting", why not just call it a practice day or something similar. I don't think the punters would be overly concerned if the cars weren't actually racing each other as long as they were going fast and making a lot of noise.

Spgeti
02-18-2019, 06:22 AM
So instead of promoting and having a "race meeting", why not just call it a practice day or something similar. I don't think the punters would be overly concerned if the cars weren't actually racing each other as long as they were going fast and making a lot of noise.

It depends on what they are trying to do Nigel. Even a sprint meeting is run under a basic clubsport licence and is limited on laps and cars on the grid.
It still require all the safety ie Ambulance and flag Marshall’s etc plus a CotC. It’s not so simple unfortunately.

Bruce302
02-18-2019, 07:06 AM
To run this as an actual motor racing meeting would require MSNZ licensing and that maybe were the problems begin...…..Dale M

Exactly right Dale, it was not racing but a mobile display of cars. We were under strict instructions to keep everything subdued and appropriate for a demonstration.

Bruce.

Kiwiboss
02-18-2019, 07:48 PM
Exactly right Dale, it was not racing but a mobile display of cars. We were under strict instructions to keep everything subdued and appropriate for a demonstration.

Bruce.

Interesting Bruce T...……..and this would be because someone has to take responsibility should an accident occur hence your strict instructions and since this event didn't come under a MSNZ permit it would not be covered under the MSNZ insurance package.

In todays PC world this is what most don't understand but the likes of myself and Bruce soon found out running our groups...……….18 months back I was about to shut HMC down because I found out I was personally liable for everyone's actions "on" and "off" the track, I even asked those racing in our group for funding so I could buy insurance and no one wanted to pay(figures) so who the hell needs that when its just a hobby. Dale M

khyndart in CA
02-18-2019, 10:29 PM
Speaking of insurance, imagine having coverage on this lot as they seem to do this every weekend !

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2019 Daytona 500 Mile Race 20 miles from the finish !

Although there are a lot of spectators who come to see this sort of thing.
Daytona crowd scene.
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(Ken H)

John McKechnie
02-18-2019, 11:10 PM
And I lived there, I would be in the crowd also.....awesome, what an atmosphere

Andrew Metford
02-18-2019, 11:59 PM
Interesting Bruce T...……..and this would be because someone has to take responsibility should an accident occur hence your strict instructions and since this event didn't come under a MSNZ permit it would not be covered under the MSNZ insurance package.

In todays PC world this is what most don't understand but the likes of myself and Bruce soon found out running our groups...……….18 months back I was about to shut HMC down because I found out I was personally liable for everyone's actions "on" and "off" the track, I even asked those racing in our group for funding so I could buy insurance and no one wanted to pay(figures) so who the hell needs that when its just a hobby. Dale M

We ran at Winged Thunder 9 on Sunday at Harrisville Speedway ( right next to Ohakea Air Force Base ), an outlaw meeting for Sprintcars, midgets, Minisprints, and modifieds. It's an outlaw event in the true sense of the word - the bloke built himself a speedway oval in his paddock, and runs it his way. No Speedway NZ rules / limitations / fees and charges / no scrutineering, it's about personal responsibility, and he ENCOURAGES us to run open headers - the biggest trophy for the weekend is for the first Sprintcar across the line with open headers ( we claimed that one :cool: ). Start time - what else but High Noon. Best weekend I've had for a long time, probably helps that we cleaned up at Palmerston North Speedway the night before with both cars too.....

2 more meetings at Western Springs speedway this season - Saturday 2nd March ( final round of the Rolling Thunder Series ), and final night 16 March with bonus demo derby and fireworks. Pits open to the public all night ( no open footwear ), posters for the kids ( young and old ;) ) racing starts at 6pm with non stop action until 10:30. We'll be there looking to finish the season off with some good results.

Kiwiboss
02-20-2019, 07:59 PM
We ran at Winged Thunder 9 on Sunday at Harrisville Speedway ( right next to Ohakea Air Force Base ), an outlaw meeting for Sprintcars, midgets, Minisprints, and modifieds. It's an outlaw event in the true sense of the word - the bloke built himself a speedway oval in his paddock, and runs it his way. No Speedway NZ rules / limitations / fees and charges / no scrutineering, it's about personal responsibility, and he ENCOURAGES us to run open headers - the biggest trophy for the weekend is for the first Sprintcar across the line with open headers ( we claimed that one :cool: ). Start time - what else but High Noon. Best weekend I've had for a long time, probably helps that we cleaned up at Palmerston North Speedway the night before with both cars too.....

2 more meetings at Western Springs speedway this season - Saturday 2nd March ( final round of the Rolling Thunder Series ), and final night 16 March with bonus demo derby and fireworks. Pits open to the public all night ( no open footwear ), posters for the kids ( young and old ;) ) racing starts at 6pm with non stop action until 10:30. We'll be there looking to finish the season off with some good results.

Andrew, Unless he has his own personal insurance he's taking a hell-off a risk. Just because his track is privately owned and on private property doesn't mean he's immune from responsibility or liability. He may think hes OK and all good, but wait until someone gets injured or at worst killed then he'll find out because once government departments step in look out.....

Personally I admire a guy like this, prepared to have a go but the system is against him and only getting worst. The problem I had was I didn't have the affordability for Lawyer protection, etc to protect myself from a long draw out legal battle(at worst case), but maybe he's wealthy enough not to care? Dale M

Allan
02-20-2019, 09:19 PM
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That's not a Pukekoke club meeting in the early 70s by any chance is it?

khyndart in CA
02-20-2019, 11:38 PM
Or Ardmore in 1961 with a field like this;
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Anyone care to add up all the Formula One races won by the drivers in this remarkable group ?


And a parking lot like this !
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It took hours to get out of the parking lot onto a road after the racing but we all enjoyed the day.
(Just a radio report and NO TV. )

Ken H

Trevor Sheffield
02-21-2019, 01:36 AM
Andrew, Unless he has his own personal insurance he's taking a hell-off a risk. Just because his track is privately owned and on private property doesn't mean he's immune from responsibility or liability. He may think hes OK and all good, but wait until someone gets injured or at worst killed then he'll find out because once government departments step in look out.....

Personally I admire a guy like this, prepared to have a go but the system is against him and only getting worst. The problem I had was I didn't have the affordability for Lawyer protection, etc to protect myself from a long draw out legal battle(at worst case), but maybe he's wealthy enough not to care? Dale M

Just maybe he knows what he is doing, has received legal advice and is not buying into the hyped up stuff allowing self appointed regulators to make money from amateurs having fun.

Andrew Metford
02-21-2019, 05:28 AM
Andrew, Unless he has his own personal insurance he's taking a hell-off a risk. Just because his track is privately owned and on private property doesn't mean he's immune from responsibility or liability. He may think hes OK and all good, but wait until someone gets injured or at worst killed then he'll find out because once government departments step in look out.....

Personally I admire a guy like this, prepared to have a go but the system is against him and only getting worst. The problem I had was I didn't have the affordability for Lawyer protection, etc to protect myself from a long draw out legal battle(at worst case), but maybe he's wealthy enough not to care? Dale M

The guy is a pretty sharp operator, I'm sure he's all over that stuff. The way he has the whole place set up is wonderful, there's a saloon ( fully licensed ), nice fencing, hay bales to sit on etc. He also does functions and weddings etc at the place. It's a decent set-up, better ( and run better ) than some "professional" outfits………..