Anglias

[105angria]

On a quick count there may be more Anglias of assd catagories spread throughout this great site than any other car at present, as time allows and skills improve i will collect pics from the various threads and colllect them here so there may be some repeats sorry, my self interest is Anglias with bigger motors and/or fastbacks. I will start this with pics of Aussie Sport Sedan Under 2ltr Standard Triumph engine Cortina GT gbox Capri struts and brakes,Found on ebay it had sat outside for 30yrs with side window down ,left in a terrible state, however 90% all there ,lucky to find Eric Jordan, the guy that built this car up from a freebody {ex cop car} motor came out of a clubman,he seam welded and built up at nights to go racing in the everyman sport sedans that was huge in auz in the day Eric has been involved from the begining ,with his photos and general memory ,sharp as a tack for a bloke with one lung and a suitcase full of kemo meds put me straight on every detail down to the width of the pin stripe,{made me do it a second time]Friday arvos and Saturdays doing something every week got the job done Haveing most of the bits enabled me to keep this projects budget to a level that my wife could understand,Acouple of mates like Bry3500 and Dave the engine man helped when the energy was low and wouldnt have finished with out Brys push at the end,The Car has its original log book and the guys from cams sport sedans have been good

[105angria]

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[bry3500]

It was great fun working on that car - And now lets go and find Doyle's Breadvan!!!......

[105angria]

some more not to boreing

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[105angria]

thats it till i go to other computer

[105angria]

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few more looking for sway bar clamp

[105angria]

sorry not many more

[105angria]

willstart to collect the other threads thanks

[GD66]

Zzzzzz....

[105angria]

sorry GD66 had to get out of my system ,dont like Anglias?

[GD66]

Just a wind-up ! Don't mind them at all buddy, in fact I recall Jim racing 105 at BayPark, and when it failed, firing up the Anglia van behind which he'd towed 105 down from Auckland, and racing that ! Used to love pics from Ye Olden Days of Doyle's green monster getting stuck into the Allcomers guys, and knew a bloke in Tauranga with a street Angular fitted with a Lotus twin-cam, which led to many late-night high speed frolics ! Never could figure out why more blokes didn't do likewise with their race cars, but I suppose by then, the Escort had appeared, and the jig was up...

Keep 'em coming, son !

[105angria]

nice shot of Jum and his van on the jum thread

[105angria]

this maybe you were there

[Rod Grimwood]

My old girl along time back over top of Pukekohe. They were neat little cars and handled pretty good,they did not mind lifting a wheel or two, very forgiving. Got some more photos somewhere

[105angria]

Nice Rod what donk ?

[GD66]

Never got to Puke or Levin in those days (too young !) but that's the old girl, nobody told Jim that sideways wasn't the quickest way to get a lap done, but he made thousands of loyal fans who followed him all the way to the top. He had one half-arsed attempt in a F5000 at Calder and stuck to saloon cars after that. Bloody hell, what might have been....very few are gifted with car control like Jim.

I mean, Jum....

[Rod Grimwood]

Couple more from club curcuit Pukekohe. This is going back.

[Rod Grimwood]

It had a 2ltr (basically a group 1) mounted back with the front of engine in line with cross member, seat was back a we bit as well.

[Rod Grimwood]

At one of the original wings and wheels at Whenuapai, that was good fun, big wide runways and you could ease her up and hold it as you moved out across the wide spaces.
Mate as of all our old cars "I wish i still had it", I handed it down to my brother when I got the escort and he then did a deal with a guy and then it just dissapeared.

[Rod Grimwood]

Another fun day at Bay park

[Shano]

Forget keeping the car - you should have kept the plastic handle for the "Big Serve" can of Double Brown. (Did we really used to drink that stuff?)

[kiwi285]

Great thread and will be good to see all Anglia photos together in one spot. Great to see the car completed and ready to roll - it looks smart. Good on you and we hope you have some great fun with it.

[105angria]

Thanks and how goods the mo still got it Ron I love the wing mirror.did this car have capri struts and brakes?

[105angria]

So is that a Kiwi sport sedan or an OSCA

[Rod Grimwood]

That was back in 84 I think. Mo has changed colour and the young lass on the right with sunglass's still makes diner most nights. I ran in Sports Sedan Association which was basically the Noth Island version of OSCA. Ran with OSCA guy's as well. Won 2Ltr Championship in it.
Yea Capri front gear, rear was turreted she handled fairly good, loved the wet, get in and give those big boys a bit back in wet (the big bullies) I ran Pacific front tyres front and rear which I got off Steve Millen as I also helped with his car so that was handy and they were nice and sticky.
Still got handles somewhere Shano, and yea it makes you wonder ah, I think we drank all kinds back then.
Remembered my brother did a deal with Brian Friend with the car, he was going to breadvan it, and the last i heard of it. It was a neat car most probably still my favourite in memory.

[105angria]

I have spoken to Rob Bartly ,he had tha Triang, what was the story that they had to convert it from a breadvan to a normal car to race within the regs ,did they change to stockbody, what an expense!

[105angria]

Rod in what form did the DB sponsership come I notice the Team DB t shirt

[Steve Holmes]

You mean to tell me that mo-stache wasn't real Rod? But this was the '80s, the porn-star look was very popular. Angria, I'd hazard a guess that Rod was a very good customer of D.B, but the partnership was more lucrative for them!

[Rod Grimwood]

Steve, you are right again. Actually at that time DB Windsor Park on north shore was the first to have satelite TV (they had a huge big dish) and we used to watch all the Aussie races there on Sundays. Also Live Bathurst when no one else could get it. I ran a doo one Bathurst day and we had couple hundred turn up. The owner gave us pretty good support with a couple of trays each meeting and petrol etc. The lass on the front of trailer in previous photo actually worked in their office, and after awhile she convinced me to get married at the Windsor as well, and the owner was master of ceremonies, his daughters brides maids and wife was in charge of it all, so spent a bit of time there over the years.
Some may remember in late 80s a t-shirt appeared around our pit for a while with on the front Moustache Rides and on the back a big 50 cents sign. That caused a bit of humour. Oh well you could get away with that fun in those days. No offence intended.
Any way back to Anglias

[Rod Grimwood]

Nigel posted this on other thread, but this was at Bay Park not long after i got the car.

[Rod Grimwood]

Found this photo and it was a few years later with new front thanks to earth mover tyre at the beggining of back straight after sweeper at Bay Park. Clipped kerb pretty hard going into sweeper after bridge and pinged a tie rod as we left sweeper, just clicked 4th gear when it just turned left, so it was a decent nudge. All my fault. We didn't sit on front of trailer that afternoon and use the handle.

[Rod Grimwood]

First lap up and over hill at Pukekohe Clubmans meeting, did alright this day and sat on trailer with handle after.

[bob homewood]

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Hunters Road
November 1966,This was the Anglia I raced in the 66/67 Season .We travelled back over night from racing at Levin the day before to compete at this Hillclimb

[bob homewood]

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This is from Levin the day before that's my car just behind the Anglia Fast back of John Ward who is off the track, I got a broken windscreen out of all the rocks he threw up with another off course escapade later that lap

[AMCO72]

Gee, don't you guys just love your Anglias. It's a real 'wish I'd never sold it' car. But I wonder if you could jump into your old car now and go for a blat, whether you would think the same. An Anglia could well have been your first race car, and the first of most things.....girlfriend....kiss.....and um yes, xxxx... is always a bit special. If your into music, and music and cars go hand in hand, you would have heard that song from the musical 'Evita'....'Don't cry for me Argentina'. Well, didnt you Anglia boys modify that a bit into....'Don't cry for me Anglia, Tina. ps....xxxx = BEER.

[Rod Grimwood]

Nigel posted this on other thread, but this was at Bay Park not long after i got the car.

Correction, got and finished the car.

[bob homewood]

Gerald,
Yes the Anglia thing is I guess like the Mini or V8 thing, someone asked me the other day if I kept count of all the ones that raced,well that task would be huge if not impossible ,in my own case I raced five different ones between 1964 and 1970 ,built another two over the years that I owned but never raced myself,and must have been involved with literally dozens of others and we are still modifying and working on them for customers to this day

[Rod Grimwood]

Was going to ask you Bob how many you had built up as I remember a few you had. At end of day they were really quite easy to play around with and get results. No fancy electrics, no puff puff noise, the diffs were as strong as, bolt in front suspension from Capri and they were already pretty light. Your little cars always went good. The good days ah Bob race down south on Saturday and shoot back to Auck for a hillclimb or club curcuit.

[bob homewood]

Rod
Yes quite often in the later 69/70 season I raced different venues Saturday then Sunday ,at least once on a holiday weekend I raced Sat,Sun and Mon all at different places ,still got the log book from that season.makes interesting reading

[bob homewood]

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This is a Anglia with a difference ,it is the Climax 2,5 engined car that was built in the UK
and they called it the Tasman Anglia

[timbo61]

A few Australian Ford Anglia's, mainly Sports Sedans.

Graeme Booth, who also has the Jim Richards Falcon Sports Sedan,
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Les Mercer at Oran Park,
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Also at Oran Park,
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Unknown driver at Oran Park,
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Chris Dubois in a Historic Touring Car,
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[Steve Holmes]

Timbo, Great photos! Thanks for posting.

[Steve Holmes]

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This is a Anglia with a difference ,it is the Climax 2,5 engined car that was built in the UK
and they called it the Tasman Anglia

Bob, without wanting to sound too much like a dummy, what is the tank on the top of the engine for?

[Rod Grimwood]

I think it may be a header tank for the cooling system, as we know the old Climax did not like heat. (a guess)

[bob homewood]

Yes that was the header tank a lot of the earlier Climax engines had the header tank mounted up on top of the engine in that fashion

[Steve Holmes]

Ahhh, thanks guys.

[grelley]

There was also a 2 litre Coventry Climax engined Anglia in Timaru, raced by a chap McKay. I understand the engine was sold to someone in the North Island a few years back to fit into a sports car?

[bob homewood]

There was also a 2 litre Coventry Climax engined Anglia in Timaru, raced by a chap McKay. I understand the engine was sold to someone in the North Island a few years back to fit into a sports car?

I cant remember a Anglia ,but I do know Arthur Moffat put one in his Cortina ,back in 64 ? Carlo may know ?

[105angria]

Just going to put some Anglias from other threads ,make this a bit more complete

[Carlo]

I cant remember a Anglia ,but I do know Arthur Moffat put one in his Cortina ,back in 64 ? Carlo may know ?

Ross McKay from Timaru ran the ex Ivan Segadin Anglia with the Climax engine in hillclimbs and when the engine failed my wife brought the car for me minus engine as a wedding present and we arrived back on the Coast from our honeymoon complete with the anglia on an A frame towed behind the Anglia van that the had run in the 1970 Silver Fern Rally a few weeks previously.

My first event in the car was a hillclimb at Harris Swamp on the Old Chch road, towed the car out behind the van then removed the 1200cc engine and gearbox from the van and installed it in the "Wacky Racer" as some of the Coast boys had named it as I only had the one engine and gearbox between the two vehicles, did the job at the hillclimb and then had to change everything back over again so I could tow the thing home and get down to the Aussie for the post event shambles.

As funds improved we eventually fitted a 1500 engine, a couple of Webers but still kept the std Anglia gearbox as it was pretty quick off the mark and when Bob Homewood arrived on the scene driving Jim Kennedy's BDA we did have some good old battles. When we left the Coast for the Far North we sold the car to the late Allan Hewlett who was another very acomplished driver and eventualy the car rotted away behind the Kumara garage until one day during a cleanup it went to the tip. About a month after Allan had done this I contacted him with the view of purchasing the car as it had quite a bit of NZ race history. Allan went to retrieve it but a flood in the Turamakau River the previous week had washed though part of the tip and the car now lies somewhere out in the Tasman Sea

[bob homewood]

Thanks Carl ,I thought there was a connection with a Climax motor and that car you had ,but I couldn't really remember ,it was strange those Climax motors went through a time around then when nobody wanted them ,mind if you had them now !

[Carlo]

Don't think Fred ever recovered from that week in that Anglia Bob

[bob homewood]

Don't think Fred ever recovered from that week in that Anglia Bob
Carl I think the discussion on Fred and the "Wacky Racer" belongs in the Yards and Yarns thread at some time ,we better keep this one pure and just Anglias

[Rod Grimwood]

That was back in 84 I think. Mo has changed colour and the young lass on the right with sunglass's still makes diner most nights. I ran in Sports Sedan Association which was basically the Noth Island version of OSCA. Ran with OSCA guy's as well. Won 2Ltr Championship in it.
Yea Capri front gear, rear was turreted she handled fairly good, loved the wet, get in and give those big boys a bit back in wet (the big bullies) I ran Pacific front tyres front and rear which I got off Steve Millen as I also helped with his car so that was handy and they were nice and sticky.
Still got handles somewhere Shano, and yea it makes you wonder ah, I think we drank all kinds back then.
Remembered my brother did a deal with Brian Friend with the car, he was going to breadvan it, and the last i heard of it. It was a neat car most probably still my favourite in memory.


Time goes by, done some research and it was back in 81. Lol

[Steve Holmes]

Ross McKay from Timaru ran the ex Ivan Segadin Anglia with the Climax engine in hillclimbs and when the engine failed my wife brought the car for me minus engine as a wedding present and we arrived back on the Coast from our honeymoon complete with the anglia on an A frame towed behind the Anglia van that the had run in the 1970 Silver Fern Rally a few weeks previously.

My first event in the car was a hillclimb at Harris Swamp on the Old Chch road, towed the car out behind the van then removed the 1200cc engine and gearbox from the van and installed it in the "Wacky Racer" as some of the Coast boys had named it as I only had the one engine and gearbox between the two vehicles, did the job at the hillclimb and then had to change everything back over again so I could tow the thing home and get down to the Aussie for the post event shambles.

As funds improved we eventually fitted a 1500 engine, a couple of Webers but still kept the std Anglia gearbox as it was pretty quick off the mark and when Bob Homewood arrived on the scene driving Jim Kennedy's BDA we did have some good old battles. When we left the Coast for the Far North we sold the car to the late Allan Hewlett who was another very acomplished driver and eventualy the car rotted away behind the Kumara garage until one day during a cleanup it went to the tip. About a month after Allan had done this I contacted him with the view of purchasing the car as it had quite a bit of NZ race history. Allan went to retrieve it but a flood in the Turamakau River the previous week had washed though part of the tip and the car now lies somewhere out in the Tasman Sea

Brilliant post Carlo!

[Steve Holmes]

Where is the Doyle Corvette Anglia at now? I know it was with an owner a few years ago, does he still have it? Has a resto been started?

[105angria]

Doyles and others

[fastback]

The Neil Doyle Corvette Anglia was built at the Tinwald service station, Ashburton by Murray Ellwood (nick name Crankshaft) who drove a much modified red and white mk 11 zephyr road car. Ian Donald also helped on the build of the anglia and later drove a Mk11 Jaguar in south island pre 65 racing.

[105angria]

Hey Fastback are Murry and Ian still around they would be a great resource for a rebuild or replica

[105angria]

last info re Doyles

[fastback]

last info re Doyles

Hi
Murray passed away many years ago. Ian Donald owned Alford Auto Spares in Ashburton, but has since retired. I will try to locate him as he would have alot of knowledge on the original build. I do know it had MK111 Zephyr front struts and discs.

[bry3500]

tahunanui

[bob homewood]

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Bit of trivial history I guess ,but at the start of the 69/70 NZ Saloon Car Championship,the Motorsport Association of NZ changed around the classes and the rules for the forthcoming season,and the way the rules were you could not use a 5 Bearing block in a Anglia in the Championship anymore .I still had a 1475cc three bearing engine with a steel bottom end that I had used in earlier times ,so I decided to stick this old war horse engine back in my basically Club Anglia and do a couple of the rounds more or less for fun,it actually went surprisingly well for what it was ,this photo was from Pukekohe,at the round that was held there on the old long GP circuit ,which used the elbow that is evident in the photo.

[David McKinney]

You about to pass Rodger Anderson?

[Shano]

Terrific photo - I loved the long circuit.

[beowulf]

Somebody a long time ago told me that the demon tweak with Anglia motors was to use a three bearing crank in a five bearing block. Is this true or was some one winding me up?

[Steve Holmes]

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Bit of trivial history I guess ,but at the start of the 69/70 NZ Saloon Car Championship,the Motorsport Association of NZ changed around the classes and the rules for the forthcoming season,and the way the rules were you could not use a 5 Bearing block in a Anglia in the Championship anymore .I still had a 1475cc three bearing engine with a steel bottom end that I had used in earlier times ,so I decided to stick this old war horse engine back in my basically Club Anglia and do a couple of the rounds more or less for fun,it actually went surprisingly well for what it was ,this photo was from Pukekohe,at the round that was held there on the old long GP circuit ,which used the elbow that is evident in the photo.

Bob, why did MANZ feel the need to make this decision? Was it in an effort to try and modernise the cars in the NZ Saloon Championship in the hope the Anglia guys would upgrade to an Escort?

[Jac Mac]

Somebody a long time ago told me that the demon tweak with Anglia motors was to use a three bearing crank in a five bearing block. Is this true or was some one winding me up?

Other way around...five bearing crank in three bearing block... the anglia Franicevic used in one of the first major rallys [ Silver Fern ?] in NZ was reputed to have been a 1300 or 1500 crank in anglia block plus overbore, possible because on early 5 brg cranks #2&3 rods were fed from center main.

[bob homewood]

Somebody a long time ago told me that the demon tweak with Anglia motors was to use a three bearing crank in a five bearing block. Is this true or was some one winding me up?

Beowulf, some of the smaller capacity ones I have seen ,have had five bearing cranks in a three bearing block,we had one recently that the crank had been machined up from a casting in its earlier days and the two bearings that where not used were still rough finished,you could do it with the smaller capacity engines.I have actually slipped a 1500 crank into a three bearing block,just for a look ,I think you would have to grind too much of the block away to make it possible.I used to run my "own personal " five bearing blocks with heaps of clearance on the two intermediate bearings,and then restrict the oil feed to those bearings.I have never built a customer engine like that ,as I am not sure that most people would go with my thinking,actually the crank etc that I mentioned, I had in that car above ,back when I got those parts and the skullduggery that happened to me by a certain party on the other side of the world is a story that belongs in Yards and Yarns

[bob homewood]

Bob, why did MANZ feel the need to make this decision? Was it in an effort to try and modernise the cars in the NZ Saloon Championship in the hope the Anglia guys would upgrade to an Escort?
Steve it was another of the revamps and changes that took place ,I guess I could probably reproduce part of the text here without upsetting the copyright people ?
The 1500 five bearing blocks were out at the end of the Allcomers,there was a rule in there somewhere that perhaps David will remember that you had to use the same block that came out with the car ,Anglias never came out with a five bearing block ,the Anglias that had raced the previous seasons were 1300cc ones,the longer stroke Classic 315 ones were not a strong crank and the move had been to Escorts,which I guess is what they really wanted ,however as I said I had the steel crank etc from earlier days and you could rev it lots higher without fear of it breaking,so as I said I decided to put in and do a couple of meetings,I was under no illusions that it was a winner,however even I was actually surprised at how well it went,not sure that might have actually been one of the last times a Anglia run in that series,sombody will know

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks for that Bob. Yes it does sound a little like they wanted you Anglia guys to switch to the current Escort just a little doesn't it, or at least it seems they wanted the Escort to be the faster car. So perhaps that was motivation to switch. Though to their credit MANZ did make some good decisions when they introduced Group 5 for the 1968 season. The FIA regs required the models competing could be no more than 5 years old, in an effort to keep the cars current, but MANZ changed this to 10 years for NZ. Not that it would have affected the Anglia though, I think that was built until around 1967?

[David McKinney]

I'm sure the Escort had nothing to do with it. I'm pretty sure FIA Gp5 rules (at least as used by MANZ) stipulated original blocks so, as Bob says, no five-bearing Anglias

The first season of Gp5 in NZ was 1968

The first Escort to race in NZ did so in July of that year - well after the end of the championship season. Driver by the way was a chap called Jim Richards...

[bob homewood]

Not a very good photo sorry it has not stood the test of time ,but its the late Noel Goodwin in the Greg Sheldon TC Anglia at Pukekohe ,from memory Sept 1969 42 years ago to this week end3719

[bob homewood]

Heres another Anglia photo,once again not very good ,I have been looking everywhere for a photo of The John Riley Anglia V8 Olds .I have even asked Brett his son ,sorry but between us this is the best I can do, ( Thanks Brett)

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[bob homewood]

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And John himself ,apparently according to Brett the Anglia was not that loved by John,some time in the future as time allows I intend to write a bit more about it

[Shano]

The Goodwin Anglia

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And a few more.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/benderboat/Motor%20racing%20at%20Pukekohe/Pukekohelinupofangliasanda40s.jpg

[Rod Grimwood]

"Goody" now there's a thread. Neat guy.

[bob homewood]

"Goody" now there's a thread. Neat guy.

Yes you are right Rod ,most of my stories about him probably belong in Y and Y

[Steve Holmes]

Heres another Anglia photo,once again not very good ,I have been looking everywhere for a photo of The John Riley Anglia V8 Olds .I have even asked Brett his son ,sorry but between us this is the best I can do, ( Thanks Brett)

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Bob, thanks for posting this photo. Its the first photo I've ever seen of this car.

NZ Hot Rod mag did a feature on John and his career to that point in 1971. Of the Anglia, the article said: "That same year (1967) John campaigned a beautifully turned out Candy Apple Anglia in the allcomer saloon car races. It was powered by a light weight 3.5 litre Oldsmobile V8 engine, and on paper it looked like a championship contender. And John had planned it that way.

""Rod Coppins was going to put it (the Olds) in something, but he decided not to go ahead with it (and co-raced the ex-Fahey fastback Twin Cam Anglia with John Ward instead) so i bought the engine and a Borg Warner gearbox off him and shopped around for an Anglia to build up. We fitted everything up OK, but we could never ever get the motor to go properly. It threw oil everywhere. It just wouldn't run on eight. We had all sorts of specialists working on it, but it would never run on the elusive eight. It might do it for half a lap, then it would drop to seven, and then onto six. It was never reliable enough to show its true potential. It was very frustrating considering we'd spent so much money on the damn thing..... It did go very well at the first meeting at Renwick (November 1966) but it only lasted two or three laps before it started running on seven. For those few laps I was quite pleased with it.

""I didn't enjoy the car at all. We were working on it every night, every weekend, and every race meeting. And it must have been quite a drain on Shells oil, 'cause it threw out more than it used""

[105angria]

great pic 2 more Angleboxs, in post 83 what class are these cars ? that looks like a Anglia estate

[bob homewood]

Bob, thanks for posting this photo. Its the first photo I've ever seen of this car.

NZ Hot Rod mag did a feature on John and his career to that point in 1971. Of the Anglia, the article said: "That same year (1967) John campaigned a beautifully turned out Candy Apple Anglia in the allcomer saloon car races. It was powered by a light weight 3.5 litre Oldsmobile V8 engine, and on paper it looked like a championship contender. And John had planned it that way.

""Rod Coppins was going to put it (the Olds) in something, but he decided not to go ahead with it (and co-raced the ex-Fahey fastback Twin Cam Anglia with John Ward instead) so i bought the engine and a Borg Warner gearbox off him and shopped around for an Anglia to build up. We fitted everything up OK, but we could never ever get the motor to go properly. It threw oil everywhere. It just wouldn't run on eight. We had all sorts of specialists working on it, but it would never run on the elusive eight. It might do it for half a lap, then it would drop to seven, and then onto six. It was never reliable enough to show its true potential. It was very frustrating considering we'd spent so much money on the damn thing..... It did go very well at the first meeting at Renwick (November 1966) but it only lasted two or three laps before it started running on seven. For those few laps I was quite pleased with it.

""I didn't enjoy the car at all. We were working on it every night, every weekend, and every race meeting. And it must have been quite a drain on Shells oil, 'cause it threw out more than it used""
Steve
Interesting I wil add a bit more soon,I think I have the write up you are talking about ,I might take the liberty of posting it later ,if any one complains you can delete it !
Its a pity we didn't get our heads together on the F85 as you might see later

[Steve Holmes]

Yes, the potential was certainly there. In theory, it was a great idea. I'd love to know why they never did manage to get it to run correctly.

[Shano]

OK I'm guessing and can offer this as a theory only. Those were relatively early days for alloy engines and porosity was an ongoing, huge problem. The alloys back then were so full of holes they wouldn't keep the water in the right places, same with the oil.

Whether that was the problem with the GM engine I can only speculate, but it certainly had issues with the mating surfaces for gaskets and oil seals.Suspect this was partly due to the greater expansino rate of alloy compared wtih iron.

In the end GM sold it to Rover who re-engineered it with particular focus on the gasket surfaces and oil seals (they were still modifying it when the SD1 series came out in 1976.) It has found widespread use in English cars, often replacing 4 and 6 cylinder engines and it could well have weighed less than the Anglebox 4 cylinder it replaced - the V8 weighed 144kgs.

It also found its way into the Leyland P76 as a 4.4 litre version.

[GeebeeNZ]

I have seen a few racing Anglias in my day but the Riley one always impressed me. From the outside it looked like a great road car a real sleeper. Its just a pity it didnt impress as much on the track.

[bob homewood]

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Thanks Brett for sharing this

[bob homewood]

Yes, the potential was certainly there. In theory, it was a great idea. I'd love to know why they never did manage to get it to run correctly.

Paul Kirk on here is / was the man on these in those early days and in turn I would respect his opinion and what he says , but going back to our own involvement in those final years of the All comers I did look more than seriously at putting one of those engines into a Anglia and putting the radiator in the rear and ducting air out through the boot lid ,David Vizard did the same with a Anglia with a conventional engine later on ,we actually discussed the concept and idea on his last visit to NZ and as I suspected if the ducting was done properly you would create down force ,a fact David verified to me ,in fact there was a bigger gain to be had than I anticipated .The other benefits were we could get a decent sized radiator in the rear and I guess the front end shape we had in mind would have resembled the Fordina,but back to the engine ,I had a friend Evan Parsons who at that time was working in the states and going to a lot of the racing etc ,he did a bit of chasing around for me to get a engine and send it back and find out information on modifications etc and he came up with a lot of info ,and drawings in particular which involved making up and fitting a thick Alloy plate on the bottom of the block,as Repco did later and further strengthening the block at the top by using the inlet manifold flanges ,we intended to use some 45mm Webers on a cross-over type inlet manifold ,I already had two pairs of them and even though they were expensive they were still more affordable than the IDA option ,anyway I considered the IDA too big for the application .
There was actually quite a lot of bits available for those engines over there at that time at a sensible cost and I felt that a reasonable power output would have been possible with still keeping reliability,I am still positive with the block stiffening to keep everything located and stable with decent head gaskets it would have been successful ,there was nothing that was not available back then that we have not used in later times,we had worked with the old venerable Climax engines back then so were well versed with the importance of clearances etc in Alloy engines ,again I think it was just another of those what if scenarios that life is full off ,but the rules changed and it never happened,I don't think anyone at that time had looked into or had done the block strengthening etc

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks guys. I always assumed the issue with the Olds motor in the Anglia was that the block was warped. But I've never read anything to confirm this. In the same NZ Hot Rod article/interview, he talks about the larger 4.5 litre Olds motor he bought off Neil Allen to fit into his Lotus. Here he identifies that the block was warped. So if the same was the case with the motor in the Anglia, I assume he would have mentioned this in the article. But perhaps it was just missed from the article.

Out of interest Bob, how were you able to improve downforce by ducting air into a trunk mounted radiator? Single seaters and sports cars from the mid '60s with front mounted radiators had a relief hole(s) cut in the upper bodywork behind the radiator to allow air exiting out the back of the radiator to be released. I think Bruce McLaren was one of the first to discover this when he cut the upper bodywork on one of his cars to try and relieve it of heavy front lift at speed. I think this may have helped front downforce also? Is this how it would have worked with a rear mounted radiator also?

[bigbanger]

OK I'm guessing and can offer this as a theory only. Those were relatively early days for alloy engines and porosity was an ongoing, huge problem. The alloys back then were so full of holes they wouldn't keep the water in the right places, same with the oil.

Whether that was the problem with the GM engine I can only speculate, but it certainly had issues with the mating surfaces for gaskets and oil seals.Suspect this was partly due to the greater expansino rate of alloy compared wtih iron.

In the end GM sold it to Rover who re-engineered it with particular focus on the gasket surfaces and oil seals (they were still modifying it when the SD1 series came out in 1976.) It has found widespread use in English cars, often replacing 4 and 6 cylinder engines and it could well have weighed less than the Anglebox 4 cylinder it replaced - the V8 weighed 144kgs.

It also found its way into the Leyland P76 as a 4.4 litre version.

Trevor Crowe seemed to have all these problems solved with the very same type of Olds V8 that he used very successfully in the two Starlet V8s.

John Harcourt also did a lot of work with these engines (also manifolds, cradles) during the 1980's, he raced a quick Mk1 Escort Olds V8 in the mid 1980's and then later took the ex Crowe & Freeth Starlet to an OSCA championship.

[bob homewood]

Thanks guys. I always assumed the issue with the Olds motor in the Anglia was that the block was warped. But I've never read anything to confirm this. In the same NZ Hot Rod article/interview, he talks about the larger 4.5 litre Olds motor he bought off Neil Allen to fit into his Lotus. Here he identifies that the block was warped. So if the same was the case with the motor in the Anglia, I assume he would have mentioned this in the article. But perhaps it was just missed from the article.

Out of interest Bob, how were you able to improve downforce by ducting air into a trunk mounted radiator? Single seaters and sports cars from the mid '60s with front mounted radiators had a relief hole(s) cut in the upper bodywork behind the radiator to allow air exiting out the back of the radiator to be released. I think Bruce McLaren was one of the first to discover this when he cut the upper bodywork on one of his cars to try and relieve it of heavy front lift at speed. I think this may have helped front downforce also? Is this how it would have worked with a rear mounted radiator also?
Yes by picking the air up through the radiator and ducting it out through a hole in the boot lid ,must see some time if I can find the Vizard article when he did it some time later ,some one else on here might have it as well !,one thing I didn;t add last night is don't forget that F85 Olds engine and bits nearly got used by be me in a Escort seven years later ,I still believe it was a good option that would have worked ,none of the people who came along later had anything that was not avaliable to us in 66/67

[105angria]

spot at MCM Eastern Creek

[bry3500]

Neil Doyle 1967,

[bob homewood]

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This is the photo from the David Vizard article ,that shows how he used the airflow from under the car ,we were going to do something similar ,but the radiator would have been in the boot at the end of the under floor ducting ,keep in context as well ,this was our intention in 66/67 ,it was a few years after this before David did it ,I actually thought I had somewhere how much theoretical pressure he gained doing this ,but maybe he just mentioned it in conversation

[Ellis]

Jim Richards was Guest of Honor at Baskerville Historic meeting 14-16 Oct 2011.
The owner of the Don Elliot replica Anglia Super had it sign written up with some of
Jims old Anglia sponsors . Unbeknowns to Jim it was cordonned off in a VIP area at
Hobart Airport and used to ferry him to the Casino. His eyes lit up when he was led
to it on arrival. If it ever is on the market he wants it.
I mentioned the Roaring site to him and he was very interested .

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/PA150008.jpg

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Ellis, what a fantastic looking car! JR often says he isn't too sentimental about the past, and that he pefers looking to the future, but I think he does have a soft spot for the past.

[Steve Holmes]

3789

This is the photo from the David Vizard article ,that shows how he used the airflow from under the car ,we were going to do something similar ,but the radiator would have been in the boot at the end of the under floor ducting ,keep in context as well ,this was our intention in 66/67 ,it was a few years after this before David did it ,I actually thought I had somewhere how much theoretical pressure he gained doing this ,but maybe he just mentioned it in conversation

Thanks Bob, not sure how I missed this one! This forum must be moving too fast for me. Thats very cool. The air behind the rear window on an Anglia must be incredibly turbulent. But obviously its still possible to draw it out.

[Rod Grimwood]

3789

This is the photo from the David Vizard article ,that shows how he used the airflow from under the car ,we were going to do something similar ,but the radiator would have been in the boot at the end of the under floor ducting ,keep in context as well ,this was our intention in 66/67 ,it was a few years after this before David did it ,I actually thought I had somewhere how much theoretical pressure he gained doing this ,but maybe he just mentioned it in conversation

Look at this one Bob. I spotted this only 2 days ago when checking out Targa up this way. Maybe this one goes out the floor or somewhere as there is no opening in rear. Can't really work out why they have cooler way back there. Did not have chance to talk to guy's. But nice to see old technology still in use.

[Rod Grimwood]

Steve, in regard to rear windows in Anglias, because it was perspex I drilled 4 big holes across the bottom of mine to help exit heat from inside and put clips on it because it had a tendency to pop out going around the sweeper at Puke.

[105angria]

anglias from other threads

[Neville Milne]

FWIW ..D&D Fabrications have probably one of the better web-sites re: B.O.P. and subsequent Rover aluminium V-8 engines. Amongst other points they make is that the casting methods used by G.M at that time ( 1960-1963 ) were flawed.
Notwithstanding, in the short time G.M manufactured the two variations on the 215 CID engine, they pumped out over 750,000 units.
Following the Rover involvement, in 1965, or thereabouts, an entirely different method of casting was employed.....not perfect, but superior to G.M's system. In fairness to G.M, however....production numbers and by definition production economies imposed different and limiting demands

[ged]

steve palmer and doak anglias we had couple show up in the south nice little specials. any info on this company and its cars

[Kwaussie]

Palmer & Doak were Ford agents just north of Christchurch and fitted new 1500cc GT engines into low milage Anglias.
The idea and their hope to market Anglias as a performance car was worthy.
Quality was good and nice vehicles were turned out.
The few I saw had an attractive non-standard paint finish. They did stand out with contrasting roof colours etc.
I am sure that most Ford dealers in the South Island got at least one to sell - but they were slow movers off the floor as most young guys did their own thing for a lot less.
Maybe 15/20 were converted. I drove one and was not that taken with it.

[tonttu]

Palmer & Doak rings a bell. If I recall they also "made' at least 1 Cortina Q. I remember having a ride in it about 1970/71 when Morrie Wear (I'm sure a few of you will remember him) was selling it. Sorry to bring a non Anglia diversion to this thread.

[Bruce Blacklock]

A couple of pics of JR. First in a drag start at Pukekohe club circuit with Shack Manon, the second at Paritutu road race

[markec]

Does anyone remember the left steer fastback ( it looked almost factory) that Bob Slade owned and drove for a couple of seasons, then it disappeared. I have hunted USA based websites and found an outfit that did aftermarket fastback conversions, like a fool I didn't bookmark the site and went onto other searches. I have since spent far to much time trying to find it again but haven't.

[Jac Mac]

Post # 75 - OSCA 40th Reunion thread.


Does anyone remember the left steer fastback ( it looked almost factory) that Bob Slade owned and drove for a couple of seasons, then it disappeared. I have hunted USA based websites and found an outfit that did aftermarket fastback conversions, like a fool I didn't bookmark the site and went onto other searches. I have since spent far to much time trying to find it again but haven't.

[105angria]

Ive posted that on this thread post 106

[105angria]

not famous but an example how allsorts played around with angleboxs note bonnet bulge which is for exhaust

[Kwaussie]

Photo on the Dickie / Doyle Anglia thread of the strut towers got me thinking about the Barry Brown Car Sales 1650 Anglia with 315 struts fitted.
Any photos of this quick little car. Went down south ????

[105angria]

kwaussie my anglia has the 315/capri struts and they fit in the standard tower with a little bit of hammering , lets you run discs ,fastback mentioned that his car has Zephyr struts

[Kwaussie]

The struts on the Brown car were about 30mm above the bonnet line and had formed shrouds covering the ugly bits.
Hope someone has photos from Nelson or Ruapuna. Car was light yellow with red roof and wheels.

[bob homewood]

The Segedin Anglia ,that became the Francevic ,etc car had the front strut tops extended upwards through the bonnet ,in more later times I have used Capri / Escort TC front struts in Anglia's reversed and reworked the steering arms to correct the geometry,bump steer etc ,you can also use the 100E steering box internals in the 105E steering box with some modifications to make a high ratio steering box ,but good luck now in this age with finding a 100E steering box

[Grant Ellwood]

Bob, as you know I'm building a LHD 105E (actually called 106E in USA) for vintage racing, I'm going with a watts or Mumford linkage at the rear but not sure which rear leaf springs to use. I read somewhere that Escort single leaf is a good alternative.



The Segedin Anglia ,that became the Francevic ,etc car had the front strut tops extended upwards through the bonnet ,in more later times I have used Capri / Escort TC front struts in Anglia's reversed and reworked the steering arms to correct the geometry,bump steer etc ,you can also use the 100E steering box internals in the 105E steering box with some modifications to make a high ratio steering box ,but good luck now in this age with finding a 100E steering box

[Carlo]

The Segedin Anglia ,that became the Francevic ,etc car had the front strut tops extended upwards through the bonnet

And you called it "The Wacky Racer" along with being party to leaving Fred in it for a week.

[105angria]

Hi Amerikiwi some pics of my rear set up 105 springs straightned with links etc

[105angria]

sorry about scale

[Grant Ellwood]

Thanks mate, very much appreciated. As part of the build, I'm considering changing mine from LHD to RHD so I'm not sitting directly above the exhaust heat plus with my local tracks being clockwise should have a slight handling advantage. Also will be running on E85 ethanol so that should be fun sorting out!

[Rod Grimwood]

Re the exhaust, they do get warm sometimes. My little car (post#37) had 2ltr so ran down right side. Not comfortable during hot days, but a real bonus at Taupo winter series and on colder days.

[Powder]

While looking for something else I came across this photo.
Thames Valley Car Club, Quine Rd Hillclimb, 10-Jul-99.
Not sure who the driver is.
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[105angria]

some Anglias from other threads including Trevor Eves breadvan before and after built by john Miles later wrecked

[ElCoyote]

Nobody has yet mentioned Dick Butters from Tawa or Terry Huxford driving Anglia's in Wellington, from memory both 1200cc. Both were very handy behind the wheel.

[105angria]

Thanks El Coyote & 45 DCOE awesome 100/105e chev hybrid whats the story with this please

[45DCOE]

Thanks El Coyote & 45 DCOE awesome 100/105e chev hybrid whats the story with this please

5544

Original built by Alex Wilson in Wellington think 1966 who kindly provided the images. 105E front guards on 100E 2 door body. Have asked Alex to join forum, he has a lot of knowledge of who raced Anglia's in the Wellington area. Hopefully he will elaborate on what the original build was. The fastback on the trailer is I believe Gary Huxford's and there are a few images on this forum racing at Levin of this car. Should close a few holes on the history of this fastback. Alex says Gary shared the car with brother Terry.

[ElCoyote]

5544

Original built by Alex Wilson in Wellington think 1966 who kindly provided the images. 105E front guards on 100E 2 door body. Have asked Alex to join forum, he has a lot of knowledge of who raced Anglia's in the Wellington area. Hopefully he will elaborate on what the original build was. The fastback on the trailer is I believe Gary Huxford's and there are a few images on this forum racing at Levin of this car. Should close a few holes on the history of this fastback. Alex says Gary shared the car with brother Terry.

Thanks for that Steve, I believe Gary shared with Robin Smith at times but Terry was not half bad himself in his own Anglia. Must have been something in the Huxford watercooler.

Re Alex's car, the original motor was a 265 (Not too bad Mr McKinney)and was then fitted with a 327 during the off season ,but before it was raced they changed the rules so the motor went into a powerboat to contest the Wellington harbour race. It sported a Jag gearbox and diff in a deal with Dannie Lupp.

The first ever run up Palmer Head saw the bonnet part company wth car. Alex was a very competent competitor in this vehicle as he later was in a kart and a hell of a nice guy.

[fastback55]

Hey 105 anglia, you're a guy with considerable roaring season skills, how do I copy a photo from one thread to another, there's a picture of Neil Doyle in the breadvan thread that I'd like to put on my thread. Thanks a lot.

[bry3500]

Hey 105 anglia, you're a guy with considerable roaring season skills, how do I copy a photo from one thread to another, there's a picture of Neil Doyle in the breadvan thread that I'd like to put on my thread. Thanks a lot.
Probably the easiest way is to lift it on to your desktop and reupload

[fastback55]

Thanks for that, I'll give it a go.

[bry3500]

Thanks for that, I'll give it a go.
just click on the image and drag it over ;)

[105angria]

which post would you like brought over Fastback ,

[fastback55]

I did it last night as per bry3500's instructions thanks. I'm learning new skills computer wise all the time on this site. I've got quite a few slides I'm cleaning and scanning that may be helpful to some people, I struggle to get them down to the size to fit here, but more practise and I'll get there. Thanks for your help.

[105angria]

Wazzas Anglia sports sedan i beleve runs hillclimbs etc

[seaqnmac27]

Hi I just found this on Flickr can someone identify it and give some history?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/111emergency/6111749668/

[bry3500]

Hi I just found this on Flickr can someone identify it and give some history?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/111emergency/6111749668/
Kayne Thompson V8 "Brutal" middish mounted 5.7-litre Chev V8, body made up of 2 two Anglias (1955 ,62) , Triumph 2000

[David McKinney]

About when would be talking, Bry?

[bry3500]

About when would be talking, Bry?
Hi David , I was talking to 105Angria on the telephone today about this...Stabbing in the dark a bit here but I think it is a recent replica of the car in post #128, I can't find any reference to it before 2006. Maybe someone else can come forward with some details.

[David McKinney]

I was just worried that my memory might be worse than I thought it was. I left Wellington in 1985...

[bry3500]

I was just worried that my memory might be worse than I thought it was. I left Wellington in 1985... From what I can gather, your memory appears to be working just fine..

[45DCOE]

Might bring some insight in to racing Anglia specs and performance in there day6530

[105angria]

wow 100hp what publication is this from ,thanks45dcoe

[markec]

carlo has a pic of his Anglia Van now, he may even post it for you.

[45DCOE]

Might bring some insight in to racing Anglia specs and performance in there day6530

Article from old Motorman, have another road test for Jack Nazer Anglia that I will post.

[105angria]

With all respect to Fastback would love to see this version recreated. ,what happended to the Sprague car ?

[105angria]

Bob Homewood Hillclimbing

[45DCOE]

Does anybody know the history of the original orange/white Franvevic Anglia ? Read somewhere if was povided by a " kind benefactor".
Was this the ex Ivan Segedin car ? Think his last Anglia prior to the Custaxie was built from the remains of Jack Nazers flying saucer

[David McKinney]

Yes, it was the ex-Segedin car and owned, I believe, by Warren Reid (who also raced it)

Not sure who owned the yellow Nazer car at the time RJF was racing it at the end of the 1966 season

Here's a bad photo of it at the "wrong way" Pukekohe meeting

[Russ Cunningham]

Thanks mate, very much appreciated. As part of the build, I'm considering changing mine from LHD to RHD so I'm not sitting directly above the exhaust heat plus with my local tracks being clockwise should have a slight handling advantage. Also will be running on E85 ethanol so that should be fun sorting out!

E85 ethanol - You really expect us to believe that you're going to run the car on that!
Just because you've been drinking it for years doesn't mean that it's good for a Ford.

Remember the night you drank 12 stubbies of E85, farted and woke up in Montana.

[Grant Ellwood]

E85 ethanol - You really expect us to believe that you're going to run the car on that!
Just because you've been drinking it for years doesn't mean that it's good for a Ford.

Remember the night you drank 12 stubbies of E85, farted and woke up in Montana.

Drinking ethanol? Now that's a bit "corny" Russ!

[Grant Ellwood]

Here are a couple of pics of my LHD Anglia (as found in the woods) in my workshop (still being renovated), as you can see a bit of paint on the floor makes a big difference. The spade leaning on the car is for removing the occasional visiting snakes, I carry them outside and let them go, they are great for keeping the rats and mice under control....
Steve suggested I should start a thread for the build of the Anglia but there probably won't be much activity until the winter as I am trying to kickstart my business here in Virginia again after being out of action for the last couple of years following my accident. So I'll stay on this thread for now.
You might also notice that I changed my username from Amerikiwi to my own name, perhaps some of you will remember me from past years downunder.
And thanks Steve for helping with the name change and resizing the photos!

[jim short]

Russ please try to remember there are gentlemen on this entertainment as well{farted how corse}

[Russ Cunningham]

Russ please try to remember there are gentlemen on this entertainment as well{farted how corse}

Thanks Jum,

Pointed noted! Who are the gentlemen you are referring to! Surely not Grant Ellwood ?

Our cat's never been the same since Grant last visited.

The neighbour's daughter has run away from home as well! Clever girl! took her cat with her.

[woody]

What was the symptons that youre cat was showing?

[jim short]

Horsepower,, Bob may correct me but didnt Geofs Anglia read over 150 on the dyno I have the printout some safe place

[bob homewood]

154 @7500 from memory Jim that was on a superflow Dyno

[jim short]

Yes the ultimate 150 from a one and a half Lt. just a pity the rest of the car coudnt take it ,when he beat Grants Mustang to win the pre 65 at Manfeild the body cried eneough over the diff???

[Yeah yeah na]

You are right bry, that was me driving in that 'flickr' photo in post #138, amazing what pops up on the net!! It was at the Shelley Bay srint, Wellington 2011.

[105angria]

Hi yeah yeah, can you fill us in with info about this wild and great looking Anglia, was there one or two of them ,where is it now

[Yeah yeah na]

It was built in the mid 80's by Alex Wilson, I see hes a member here too! Built to be a reincarnation of his own car from the 60's. Runs a standard 350 chev 4 speed muncie and an 8" Ford rear end. I brought it off Alex in 2000 with a leg out of bed, enjoyed racing it non-stop for a good 8 years, it has had its wings clipped in the last while by the house and kids. Still got it though. The first one Alex tells me had the engine pulled in the 60's and was passed on to a guy from speedway. I will try to get some recent shots of the old girl up here at some stage.

[bry3500]

thanks for the heads up yeah yeah, that car is a beast, love to see some detail photo's..nice to see you here btw

[105angria]

from another thread ,anybody know the history Arthur Jelly and Wade Paterson

[Rod Grimwood]

Stayed at a friends place last weekend and this is his old Anglia that he drove occassionally and was driven most by Colin Reed. Won Auckland Car Club clubmans champs a few times and was quick.

[SPman]

A couple of mine the first one seems to be a popular shot.....can't recall it being that crowded at the time,
Dave Simpsons nose
The last one has "Dave Jurie, April 65" on the back. He lost it coming over the top of the hill and ended up hitting the tree in the ditch!

[Steve Holmes]

Wow!

[neale]

Awsome thread!!
Loving all of the pics of the old anglias.

I was digging through the old family photo albums & found these pics of my dads old anglia sports sedan. It was mainly run in club level hill climbs & lap dashes.

Long story short its specs were
Light weight body
109E block 1228cc with Twin 42 webbers.
Close rato gearbox
LSD
3" lowered GT cortina front struts


http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/img038_zps154aebb7.jpg

Amaroo Main Circuit 1970
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/img019_zpsa3d33419.jpg

Oran Park 1960
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/img023_zpsd7a893f5.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/img020_zps90aa43eb.jpg

[neale]

Amaroo Hill Climb 1969
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/img037_zps5e393054.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/img071_zpsdd015229.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/DSC05914_zps4d3dd9f8.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/img043_zps15708f0d.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/img042_zps37df9584.jpg
http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i401/Neale_Bayliss/Dads%20pics/img045_zpsfeb2e15d.jpg

[Haga]

I use to race this in classic races (Whittakers meetings, and the old Taupo meets in winter) and hillclimbs in the early to mid 90s. Was sold to Auckland area and never seen it again.

Road registered and did Taranaki Tarmac Rally the 1st year when they rebirthed it.

Built it up from a bare shell, 1500GT non crossflow, with dellortos, 315 struts etc

15692

[ERC]

Mallory Park - the late Roger Williamson
15696

Murray Beadling's immaculate pinstriped Anglia was a sprint regular - Curborough.
15697

Targa 2005 - Papakura town centre
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Teretonga February 2005. Hate that chicken wire...
15699

Possiby Hamilton, WRC rally display 2006.
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[ERC]

Pukekohe January 2008
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Hampton Downs 2011
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[Carlo]

Seen at the scruitineering for the final round of the FIA 2011 European Historic Rally Championship at Lloret De Mar in Spain

[Grant Sprague]

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[Grant Sprague]

Managed to get this one through , got lots more ... this was Wellington when Angus & I got front row in NZ pre 65 race , great circut if you could visualize A pex,s with out the barriers ...there is a pic in the nz pre 65 sight of us in front of the big v8s lined up for race one .......... not sure how to drag it across, the sway bar was off a vauxall viva turned up side down , hooked up reeeaally good ...

[BMCBOY]

I found these photos I took for Brian Friend in 1976 at the Long Drive Service Station in St Heliers.
I wonder if the car survived - it was very nicely prepared.

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19241

[John McKechnie]

A little off the track-that is my fathers old Rambler Classic there

[Grant Ellwood]

I'm building an Anglia for historic racing up here in USA, local vintage rules mandate drum rear brakes. Anyone know which drum brake combos are suitable eg Cortina, Escort and easily adaptable.

[Grant Ellwood]

I have had some very useful info (thanks Stewart Quertier) but still need to know if rear discs were run on Anglias back in the day ie 60s/70s, or did everyone stick to drum brakes?

[Rod Grimwood]

we ran drum with hole drilled in drum face for easier adjustment and holes in back plate to assist cooling with ducts under car.
can not really remember any one with rear disc. Even first Escort had drum rear, alright for short distance.

[Grant Sprague]

Grant .......... we never had rear discs...... were not allowed to run 4 wheel discs in pre 65... I feel you dont need them either as we got these cars very light & had good front brake package , remember 70 to 80% is front brakes to stop of slow down the car , never had a brake issue even the breed van anglia Gary raced I dont remember a brake problem & these were solid front discs normally in those days DS11 pads were the go , so if you want to stop better you now have different calipers , bigger , lighter, more piston area, vented discs, better pad material etc etc , better weight transfer on to front wheels , better tyre grip the list goes on , you shuld be able to stop on a 6 pence ??? with just that combo..........I am not saying that yr idea wont work either but you might not need to go down that track........... Hope you all good up there Grant E ............. Grant S

[Rod Grimwood]

Grant E, Grant G is on it, you can over brake a little car, and drums on rear and Capri discs on front sure worked good for us back then.

Got some photos of build Grant

[Grant Sprague]

Hey Rod , still got plenty of piks to add, ANGLIAS ETC managed to get a few through, got plenty of hill climb piks since a teen etc then some of the fiat 128 days with Steve E , the mustangs etc ...... any way we have got time on our side .... mind you time seems to run away even faster than racing cars lol..... had a great weekend at Taupo with the boys ........ caught up with Angus & Johnny the rest were on a mission oh how thing change .........use to be more fun Im sure $$$$$$$$$ takes over

[Grant Ellwood]

Hi Grant S. and Rod, tried a couple of times to post replies but keeps timing out and blocking the post, must have been too long. I will try grafting a separate Word document next time, otherwise frustrating to keep losing the content!

[Grant Ellwood]

Grant & Rod, I’ll be sticking with the rear drums thanks again for your comments.
I have a sad Mk1 Cortina GT in the shop, probably use some of the parts for the Anglia - rear brakes and front struts. Bob Homewood passed on some excellent info about using Datsun alloy drums too. Right now I’m building a rotisserie to make it easier to clean up the body, scrape all the goop off and weld panels and brackets in place. Also converting from LHD to RHD, should give a number of small benefits including more room for the headers and a weight transfer (or non-transfer) advantage for the driver position, most of the tracks here run anti-clockwise.
I think I had forgotten how bloody small 105Es are! It is a real task to fit a modern seat in place between the tunnel and door plus allow for the roll cage. I am being particularly fussy here as I have had numerous concussions over the years and the more recent ones have taken longer to recover from. So I’m trying to build in as much insurance structurally as possible.
Regarding engines, the vintage class I am hoping to compete in dictates minimum body weight equals engine capacity eg 1500cc + 1500lb, I had initially planned on using a 1650 but the extra 150 pounds weight would cancel out the extra horse power I think plus I can easily get the Anglia to 1500lb.
Once I get really rolling on this project I will post pics with updates. The program is really behind schedule, the US east coast storms over summer caused major flooding in the factory which has been mostly un-useable since late May! Probably take another couple of months to get back to normal. The builders and roof repair guys have been chuffed to see an Anglia in the flesh, only other opportunities were in the Harry Potter flicks, that’s how rare they are in this neck of the woods.

[105angria]

Hi Lee some shots of the setup on my Anglia Capri struts and brakes drilled backing plate falcon dual master with booster

[Grant Ellwood]

Does anyone know if the Dave Simpson twin cam Anglia is still around?

[Grant Sprague]

I was told by one of my spies it is in Wellington area.......[. I was going to build a rep] as I am sure its our old car .... time is the factor at present , this car went from Dave to Frank to Ernie & so on not 100 %

[ERC]

Prescott Hillclimb 1970
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Mick Hill's "Janglia" - fitted with jaguar power. Mick went on to produce some of the best UK Super Saloons, including V8 Capri, V8 VW and V8 Skoda.
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The late Roger Williamson who was to tragically lose his life in a firey F1 crash, when sponsored by Bernard "Tom" Wheatcroft.
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A local NSCC stalwart in his immaculate, pin striped Anglia at Curborough - Murray Beadling.
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Note the minimal roll protection...

[Grant Ellwood]

I was told by one of my spies it is in Wellington area.......[. I was going to build a rep] as I am sure its our old car .... time is the factor at present , this car went from Dave to Frank to Ernie & so on not 100 %

I was at Timaru back in the 60s, working as a mechanic (OK gofer) for Bryan Faloon, saw your brother Gary's chop top Anglia, very impressed so when I got back to home base of Levin hack-sawed 12cm out of the roof height of my ex Ross Atkins 105E.
Can't recall the exact year but remember meeting Bert Hawthorn there in one of his rare race meetings down under.

[225sloper]

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[car mad]

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Found these photos on facebook last night,didnt say where or when these images were taken.264032640426405

I'm sure someone will correct me if Im wrong but Im sure the photos are of it sitting in the paddock in or near Rolleston near christchurch

[John McKechnie]

This Anglia Fastback was on trademe about 5 years ago.
These are the same pics from the ad.
It was under $2k, took a long time to sell- as usual, people complaining of rust instead of seeing what it actually was.
About the same time was also Anglia -not a Fastback-with 289 went for $1950.

[khyndart in CA]

This Anglia in the British Special Saloons and Modsports series is a little different from what I used to trundle around in.
Pix from Motorsport Magazine. Oct. 2014.

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Hyndman's Anglia in 1969

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( Ken Hyndman )

[Grant Sprague]

Good one Ken .... love the green Anglia ....my first Anglia was an E93a....... I had just turned 15 Dad found it on a farm in Hampton close to Moeraki our family weekend retreat we visited when there was no motor racing , the little ford popular was running on 3 cylinders had green leather seats [factory] & was in need of a paint job to boot I had been saving for years .. $150.00 came from mowing lawns [cash paid] I was so proud of It [the car] ,I tell you it went as fast backwards as it did forwards provided the road was icy enough & the hand brake was adjusted ..lol..... & the story goes on : ask the Dunns & Parmenters ...from Timaru they have better stories lol

[Rascal]

Gary Sprague, Craigmore hill climb, south Canterbury, late 1960s26427

[Kwaussie]

Was that a Palmer & Doak car? ^^^^^ not many hot Anglia's had GT badges as they were deemed a bit over the top!

[Grant Sprague]

Rascal............ Gary had this little car not long after his model A lol, I remember him racing it at a club event Ruapuna ...... I have a pik soon to put up of my first 105E up the same hill[ have to say my car was quicker [oppppps sorry big bro he he ] Craigmore was our play ground ......below the hill [south of Timaru] is a beautiful Golf course.......and a little further is a couple of rivers we use to swim in .........beautiful place on planet earth

[Carlo]

Rascal............ Gary had this little car not long after his model A lol, I remember him racing it at a club event Ruapuna ...... I have a pik soon to put up of my first 105E up the same hill[ have to say my car was quicker [oppppps sorry big bro he he ] Craigmore was our play ground ......below the hill [south of Timaru] is a beautiful Golf course.......and a little further is a couple of rivers we use to swim in .........beautiful place on planet earth

Arrive at Craigmore, throw everything out of the car including rear and LF seat along with muffler and leave it all with the girlfriend and picnic lunch. 50 -60 cars and 5 runs at the hill then everything back into the Anglias and down to the river below the hill for a few beers and a swim to get rid of the dust before heading home. Great days weren't they Sprague the younger one.

[Kwaussie]

Remember seeing [Barry Brown]? in a cream or lemon 1650 Anglia at Ruapuna where he opened the boot and inside was the muffler which he went on to remove, the front pipe fell onto a strap and there it sat all day while racing. The tail pipe exit was at the same level as the petrol filler but in the other side.

[Grant Sprague]

Carl I LOVED it .................not to mention all the group ..at least we catch up once a year ..... Hey Carl I have a couple of piks of ernie going up the same hill in the P3 Alfa he had fitted rear dual wheels to get some grip also the the 4 CLT ........When I get them back off Steve I will have them posted :p

[bry3500]

Spotted at Historic Sandown

[Milan Fistonic]

Ross McCorquodale and Grant Liston getting the message from Mike Boyle.


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[Grant Sprague]

LOVE this great pik ;) lol, he is on the ragged edge..... looks like an ex gov car by the grill he he

[Milan Fistonic]

Shows why a front cage is a good idea

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[GD66]

Is the grinning duo's Anglia sporting Town and Countries ?

[Grant Sprague]

Carl ..it seems like time has flown by...[as it does] .......between Craigmore & that beautiful river that we spent many years at ....there was a field north of the golf course at the bottom of the hill ,..as a teen I use to cart hay there in weekends working for Longmans transport ....geeeeeeeee mate talk about the land of milk and honey .......love it .........