View Full Version : Red Dawson Willys Coupe Tribute
Steve Holmes
01-26-2015, 08:50 PM
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I received a message through Facebook this morning from a very nice guy called Ben Johnson. In the message were two photos, showing Red Dawson's infamous Willys coupe. At first I thought these were old images from the '60s, but then realised they were much more recent. I was amazed, to say the least, and contacted Ben.
Turns out Ben has been working away quietly building this incredible tribute of Red's racer. He started out with a rusty Willys four door sedan, which he then cut down, joining the front with a Willys coupe rear half section he bought out of the US. The car is powered by a small block Chevy, with twin 4-barrel carbs, 4-speed etc, just like the original. Its stunning, and incredibly accurate, right down to the streamlined headlight covers.
Isn't it amazing the effort people will go to in order to create a tribute to their heroes.
Ben will be sending me through build photos of the Willys which I'll be posting here.
Awesome work, Ben!
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Steve Holmes
01-26-2015, 09:18 PM
This is a recent shot of the Willys, all numbered up and looking amazing.
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Steve Holmes
01-26-2015, 09:23 PM
This is what Ben started out with, a four door Willys sedan, in poor shape. The Willys were a very cheap vehicle in their day. The company found some clever ways to cut costs, such as using the front doors to also serve as back doors. They were simply flipped around. The bodies were quite light, hence they became popular with drag racers in the 50s and 60s, as, fitted with a V8 motor, were pretty potent.
Red Dawson built one up as an Allcomer racer in the 60s, powered by a small block Chevy V8. It was a wicked car, and paved the way for the former speedway racer to push further into circuit racing.
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Spgeti
01-26-2015, 09:43 PM
What an amazing job he has done. Years ago I heard that the original car was somewhere in the Wellington region but have never been able to prove it. Owned by a hotrodder. I saw a beaten up coupe at the Palmy Swap Meet 2013 and wondered if it was the car. Garry Price has a very nice 4 door for sale on TM at the moment.
Look forward to more pics, Cheers, Bruce
Steve Holmes
01-26-2015, 09:50 PM
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01-26-2015, 09:53 PM
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fullnoise68
01-26-2015, 09:58 PM
Nita Dawson - Reds widow - is going around to my in laws within the next couple of weeks, so I`ll ask her if she still has any photos of the original coupe. Right from the Epsom stockcar days Red ran mostly No 35 on his cars, so I`m not sure about the No 36 ... Great effort and obviously gone to a lot of trouble building this replica.
Steve Holmes
01-26-2015, 10:09 PM
I think the race number was sometimes enforced by event organisers, with the single seater cars getting preferential treatment and the saloon guys getting what they were given.
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Steve Holmes
01-26-2015, 10:10 PM
Note also he has replicated the licence plate.
John McKechnie
01-26-2015, 10:14 PM
Steve Elliott- you are correct about the number
Pukekohe April 4 1964.
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Coppins, Souness, Harvey, Dawson
nigel watts
01-26-2015, 11:06 PM
First time I ever saw Red Dawson compete in the Willys was at a Hamilton Car Club hillclimb at Horahora in the early to mid 60's.
Red arrived at the first corner sideways then disappeared up the road in a cloud of tyre smoke and flying gravel!! Although it was a sealed hillclimb, some of you will remember that the seal in those days was a single width strip in the centre of the road.
Allan
01-27-2015, 12:00 AM
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Oldfart
01-27-2015, 05:41 AM
That is something else! To start with such a pile of, what could only be described as crap, and get to where he is. Makes Camaros, Mustang, Monaro and Falcon coupe builds look really easy! (sorry guys, you are doing a great job too but....)
Kevin Hirst
01-27-2015, 08:05 AM
That is something else! To start with such a pile of, what could only be described as crap, and get to where he is. Makes Camaros, Mustang, Monaro and Falcon coupe builds look really easy! (sorry guys, you are doing a great job too but....)
Jeez, it must be time to start casting medal's for some of these guys, they deserve one.
Oldfart
01-27-2015, 05:50 PM
First time I ever saw Red Dawson compete in the Willys was at a Hamilton Car Club hillclimb at Horahora in the early to mid 60's.
Red arrived at the first corner sideways then disappeared up the road in a cloud of tyre smoke and flying gravel!! Although it was a sealed hillclimb, some of you will remember that the seal in those days was a single width strip in the centre of the road.
Must have been at the same one Nigel. Not only a single strip, but also moss along both sides. A couple of years later a young fellow named Paul Adams (correct me on this if need be) was there with a VW with huge rear guards and tyres. After the first run it got skinny rears. Maybe understeering off the road at the near to the top right hander had something to do with that decision?
Oldfart
01-27-2015, 05:51 PM
Jeez, it must be time to start casting medal's for some of these guys, they deserve one.
See Kev, there was hope for that Reno!
markson
01-27-2015, 06:26 PM
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There are a lot of true enthusiasts around OLDFART
I have come home with cars in sugar bags myself and never considered that I had a pile of crap
Alway looked at it as gold. Markson
Kevin Hirst
01-27-2015, 07:41 PM
See Kev, there was hope for that Reno!
There still is Rhys, bring your trailer, thats where I went wrong,Red orGarth or John or any of those guys never raced a reno so had nothing to make copy of. not allowed to build an original with turbo subaru in rear & race with the boys so feel free to come take away, I will help you load it on your trailer & won't shed a tear.
Rod Grimwood
01-27-2015, 08:27 PM
Kevin, Think John Windleburn had one with a VW in it, Tony Rutherford had it in his workshop years back, do not know what happened to it. Now there you go Kevin, you can build a copy, but you will have to grow a flash new well trimmed grey beard to make it period correct.
Kevin Hirst
01-27-2015, 11:21 PM
Kevin, Think John Windleburn had one with a VW in it, Tony Rutherford had it in his workshop years back, do not know what happened to it. Now there you go Kevin, you can build a copy, but you will have to grow a flash new well trimmed grey beard to make it period correct.
Perhaps gentleman with grey beard would like it as he already knows how to build one, will also help load onto trailer & provide liquid refreshments if needed,but I won't hold my breath.
markson
01-27-2015, 11:35 PM
Hi
Many many years ago, back in the mid sixties a chap by the name,(I think Mike Walker), had either a
Fiat 500 or a Renault 750 with a 1500cc escort motor in it,he used to play the piano at one of the night clubs back then, in town up stair's behind the Embassy threate
I think it was called the Montmark
I think I have a photo of a Renault 750 somewhere that I took at Reo Motors in Mt Eden a few years ago, and I believe its still around,I am am not sure if it the same car? also I have many memories of trips to Bathurst and Phillip Island with a mate of mine from Bendigo, who had a Renault 750 with a Gordini conversion on it, and it was quick!!!
also one of my mates who was killed in an accident at 19 years had a Renault Dalphene that was also pretty quick and handled like a go kart, it used to blow the doors off another one of my mates, oldman's 1956 Ford Mainline ute .Markson
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Oldfart
01-28-2015, 03:54 AM
Markson, the car you pictured which still survives had a turbo Renault 16 motor (and still does). Built in New Plymouth
markson
01-28-2015, 04:38 AM
Hi Oldfart
I never knew what that particul car had in it
but going by the rear wheels, knew it wasn't a 750
I alway's like the little 750,as I have said,
I had a lot of fun in my mates. Markson
markson
01-28-2015, 05:54 AM
Hi Kevin
What are you giving away ???.Markson
Kevin Hirst
01-29-2015, 06:35 PM
Hi Kevin
What are you giving away ???.Markson
Hi, one only 4CV/750 as in picture, see cars for sale on TRS, come take away, no cost, cheers.
Gerard Richards
01-31-2015, 09:08 AM
What an amazing job he has done. Years ago I heard that the original car was somewhere in the Wellington region but have never been able to prove it. Owned by a hotrodder. I saw a beaten up coupe at the Palmy Swap Meet 2013 and wondered if it was the car. Garry Price has a very nice 4 door for sale on TM at the moment.
Look forward to more pics, Cheers, Bruce
Around 2005 I wrote a story on Red Dawson that got published in Classic Kiwi Motorsport, a limited edition publication put out by NZ Classic Car Magazine. I interviewed Nita Dawson as part of the research for this article. She told me that the Willy's Coupe was sold to someone in the South Island but couldn't remember who it was.
Fast forward a year to 2006 and an article appeared in NZ Hot Rod magazine in the October edition featuring historic Willy's Coupe's both operational and derelict. There was a photo there that I spotted that looked suspicously like a battered relic of the Dawson Willy's and so it proved. I contaced Paul Grace editor of NZ Hot Rod Mag and he contacted their Christchurch people to check it out. Long story shortened, Craig Stare one of their long time hot rod correspondents in that city verifyed from one of the previous owners a certain Joe Madson now living in Perth had bought the original Red Dawson Corvette powered Willy's Coupe from a well known circuit racer and car dealer Lin Neilson (Fairmonte Motor Court) from Dunedin. Lin had bought the car directly from Red at the end of the 1964-65 season and taken it back to Dunedin. He removed the Chev V8 engine and four speed gearbox and installed them in a Mk 3 Zephyr for Allcomer racing in the 1965-66 season. The car proved a disaster, hardly ever finishing and Lin quit it at the end of the season for a very fast Mini. He later bought the very famous ex Jim Richard Williment Twin Cam Escort and had considerable success in the Osca Championship from 1972 to 1974. The Zephyr though had a further life in the hands of Brent Thorpe, who drag raced it, still with the Dawson running gear, and also raced in the OSCA championship from 1971-73
Joe Madson didn't get the Willy's going minus the engine and gearbox, and it was on sold to someone else in Christchurch who he couldn't remember. The amazing thing though is in the November 2006 issue of NZ Hot Rod Magazine there are photos taken at that time of the surviving Dawson Willy's Coupe. Check it out on pages 34 and 35 if you have a copy. Apparently the car was to far gone to revive, but the pics clearly indicate this was the famous Dawson Willy's Coupe....
GeebeeNZ
02-04-2015, 05:46 AM
I don't know how we got from this fantastic Willys tribute car to Renault 750s but amongst my old Hot rod mags is a picture of Johns VW powered 750. I believe it did mid 16s at MereMere which is not too bad for a small car. I owned one in 1966 but it wasn't that quick
Kevin, Think John Windleburn had one with a VW in it, Tony Rutherford had it in his workshop years back, do not know what happened to it. Now there you go Kevin, you can build a copy, but you will have to grow a flash new well trimmed grey beard to make it period correct.
Steve Holmes
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Oldfart
03-05-2015, 05:04 AM
Pure dedication and artistry!
markson
03-05-2015, 06:54 AM
I will second that Oldfart
There are not to many people these days with that sort of talent
,let alone the dedication. Markson
kiwi285
03-05-2015, 07:25 AM
You really have to admire such talent - a great job.
Steve Holmes
03-05-2015, 08:43 PM
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There are a lot of true enthusiasts around OLDFART
I have come home with cars in sugar bags myself and never considered that I had a pile of crap
Alway looked at it as gold. Markson
Wow, this is pretty special, and very rare. Where did you find it, and what are your plans for it?
Trevor Benton
03-05-2015, 10:57 PM
Wow, this is pretty special, and very rare. Where did you find it, and what are your plans for it?
A brilliantly executed project, real talent.
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Spgeti
03-10-2015, 02:18 AM
That is beautiful work and a very talented man. The Corvette rocker covers if original are hard to find. I used to have an original dual quad Corvette intake but like all things sold it years ago.
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