B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

[khyndart in CA]

I had the wonderful experience of growing up in the Morrinsville area at Kiwitahi at a time when so many had connections to motor racing.e.g. Spencer (Spinner ) Black went to Kiwitahi school with my sister, Bryan Innes's family brought property from my grandfather, Dennis Marwood married the sister of a neighboring farmer, a relative owned the Motordrome Service Station in Te Rapa, Terry Marshall was at Morrinsville College when I was there, John Paton (Paton & Black ) engines was a friend, Ross Greenville had a really sweet neice etc. etc. ( We were like a big family )
Anyway I took some photos that are not great quality but I wanted to share of that time...

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Spinner Black's Lexington Team Camaro being prepared at the Baypark track at Mount Maunganui. NZ.
December 1968.

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Not every town had a trailer with a Camaro on it sitting in the street ! ( Morrinsville 1969 )
note the high quality of trailer with such a precious load !

( Ken Hyndman)

[Grant Sprague]

Beautiful Ken .... a time warp for sure thanks mate

[John McKechnie]

With the number 59 on the side, this could be when Terry Scott drove it at Baypark

[khyndart in CA]

Thank you John.
You reminded me that I had not mentioned Terry Scott was from Morrinsville also (sorry Terry )
Terry was a big help to Spinner and an excellent driver so Kayne Scott has good blood in his system.

Excuse my memory but is this a second Camaro from Spinner with the SS grille and no vent door window ?
I always thought he worked with one Camaro and one Monaro but then I seem to remember a burgundy Camaro
being driven through town on a trailer back then.

I used to go around after work to Spinner's and "hang out" and listen to stories and watch these guys at work
which was a great experience which helped me "in the door" in later years at other places around the world.
I really liked talking to Rod Coppins who was humble and friendly and so different to when he got out on the track.


(Ken Hyndman )

[John McKechnie]

Ken- the same Camaro. Do you remember Alex- A.B.(anonominity) working on the car?
Alex told me the accident the Camaro had at Wigram , they took parts of the Burgundy one to finish repairing it- that explains the vent window.
The 4 wheel disc brakes from the Burgundy also went on this one also.
Burgundy Camaro was used at Glenvale 100 and is covered on other threads.
Did you ever see or photo the Monaro they were working on at this time?

[GD66]

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[khyndart in CA]

John,
Thanks again for wonderful information.
I do not have any photos of the Monaro.
In fact I am pleased I dragged what old photos I did back here to California.
My dear mother would not throw any of my "stuff" away when I went overseas, bless her heart.
I left Morrinsville for Oz in Feb. 1970 so this thread is based on cheap old camera photos
from that time period. I hope they are clear enough to be seen.
Back then we had to send color film to Australia to be developed for 3 weeks before you could see what we had !
Therefore the B&W photos were the way for me to go.

[khyndart in CA]

Baypark. December 1968.
Great Australian drivers ; Norm Beechy and Leo Geoghegan discussing how to beat the Kiwis.

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Norm Beechy's Chevy Nova in the paddock area.
I think that is Australian Brian Foley's 1293 Mini Cooper next to it.
(Could that be verified please. I know it was out here for the NZGP meet at Pukekohe a week later. )

(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Baypark, December 1968.

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Roly Levis talking with Leo Geoghegan.
Standing in front of Roly's Team Lexington Brabham BT 23 C / 7
This car was first owned by Frank Williams for Piers Courage to drive.
Word has it that it is in the vast collection of cars owned by Bobby Rahal in Ohio, USA.
If that is true it will be in superb condition.

(Ken Hyndman )

[stubuchanan]

Looks like the John French car #66

http://s6.postimg.org/je5jipwtt/GP_69_09_J_French.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Foley was #67 at Pukekohe GP meeting but I don't have a picture or even a set of results handy.

Signage on front corner looks the same as in your photo.

Stu

[Shoreboy57]

Richardson's "Pre Run Cars" great description

[khyndart in CA]

I found this quote from the "Cabbage Tree Media " site.
" Also in 1969 three Australian visitors came to Bay Park, one being Norm Beechey in his Chevy Nova and the other two being Brian Foley and John French in their Mini Cooper S ‘s. French scored a 5th in Allcomers Feature and a 1st in 1001-1300cc race. Foley did not feature in the results. The following weekend at Pukekohe for the NZIGP both cars fronted , Foley in a brand new hydrolastic 1293S and they finished 1st and 2nd but didn’t qualify for Gold Star points. In the Air NZ Open Capacity they came 2nd and 3rd in the same finishing order. Foley then travelled to Wigram gaining a 2nd in the Group 5 race."

So that is either the French or Foley Mini Cooper but it is Australian.

( Ken Hyndman )

[John McKechnie]

I remember Aussie minis had quarter vent windows on the doors

[Allan]

And hidden door hinges.

[Spgeti]

From memory, wind up windows, quarter vents, hidden hinges and they were a wee bit heavier.

[khyndart in CA]

Looks like I worded that wrong !
What I meant was that the car was from Australia and driven by an Australian
and not about where it was built.
Sorry about that folks.

(Ken Hyndman )

[Rod Grimwood]

And quick

[Bryan]

And hidden door hinges.

Nope, hidden door hinges only on UK Mk3 from 1969. Windup windows with external hinges on Australian Minis from 1965.

Quarterlights can be seen in this (http://autopics.com.au/66757-john-french-steve-harvey-morris-cooper-s-gallaher-500-bathurst-1966-photographer-geoff-arthur/) pic of the John French Mini Cooper S at Bathurst in 1966.

[khyndart in CA]

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Norm Beechy's Chevy Nova in the paddock area.
I think that is Australian Brian Foley's 1293 Mini Cooper next to it.
(Could that be verified please. I know it was out here for the NZGP meet at Pukekohe a week later. )

(Ken Hyndman )[/QUOTE]

Yes that 2 on the door as a 26 does not look real secure and I think it is John French's Morris Cooper that was number 66
at Pukekohe.
I have attached the entry list for the Pukekohe Open Saloon Car race at the 1969 NZGP. Jan 4 1969.
There are some great names in this race.
(I hope it can be read )

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( Ken Hyndman )

[rf84]

Re the Brabham in post #9 above.
Baron Robertson bought the car off Roly but had problems with the handling. He asked Roly to try and 'sort' it for him and Roly crashed it heavily into the barrier at the sweeper at Bay Park. The car was a virtual 'write-off' but, as often happens, it eventually became two cars. Parts were used to build a Formula Ford which was driven by Phil Harris who worked at "The Baron's" mower shop at the time. The car later went over Taranaki way (Hawera I think) and then to Tauranga (David Manton or Russ Cunningham?). It was then exported back to the UK where Martyn Smith restored it with an FVC and all the correct period parts. Phil Harris meantime had moved from Hastings to Ohio where he has a business very near Bobby Rahal's. Phil tells the story of how Bobby turned up at Phil's workshop one day and invited him to come outside to see his 'new toy'. Yep. It was Phil's old Formula Ford!!!!!
I seem to recollect Phil telling me that Bobby has sold the car.
Phil and Baron built another chassis which was fitted with all the bits from the original car and raced by Baron.
Last I heard it was hanging on the lounge wall of someone in Christchurch-word had it that person was Harry Holt.

[Allan]

Sorry Bryan, my mistake. The later model English Minis with wind up wndows and no quarter lights had hidden hinges and the Aussie ones stayed external.

[stubuchanan]

Sorry Bryan, my mistake. The later model English Minis with wind up wndows and no quarter lights had hidden hinges and the Aussie ones stayed external.

This was an Australian built 1966 Mini Cooper 1275S I owned from 1968 to 1970(then I got married!)

http://s6.postimg.org/6b9wzg6lt/1966_Aus_1275_S001.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


You can see the quarter-light and wind-up windows.
Also the twin fuel tanks/filler caps, which I think were only an Aust feature. They used to cause a bit of consternation at gas stations at times - "which one do I put it in?"

We didn't get to see Bryan's picture of the French Mini at Bathurst 1966 - maybe not the same car as in earlier posts.

Stu

[John McKechnie]

Twin tanks were a feature on Cooper S in all countries- saw a blue one in Crimea in 2007 . Had twin tanks, sliding windows, was LHD, and.mph speedo.
Interesting Stu-yours has Mini, when the Poms had Austin in that written script. Morris were like Frenchs in block letters.

[khyndart in CA]

John French was driving a 1964 Morris Cooper S in the 1964 Australian Touring Car Championship and as the car at Baypark in 1968 has the "droopy" door handle, bumper over-riders and the big hinged rear side window it could be the same car. (At least on the outside !)

(Ken Hyndman )

[Allan]

The one I owned from 68 to 70 (I think from memory it was a 67 version) was English but it had only one tank which was a pain because if I kicked it along a bit I had to refuel every 200 miles. It also had a close ratio straight cut gearbox from new which made a horrendous noise until I fitted extra sound deadening to the flour. Strangely I also had to sell it to get married.

[khyndart in CA]

I have a (Genuine) 1962 Austin Cooper that had a 997 engine and now has a whopping 998 cc (1986 year ) engine and 4 speed syncro gearbox..
It has been a project car but it is now enjoying life. It is a LHD version that was built for the North American market in Feb. 1962.
It still has the original Lucas wiring harness ! Hey if it ain't broke (or burnt ) why fix it !

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(Ken Hyndman )

[Spgeti]

Our family car was 1964 Austin Cooper S......English 1275S with only one tank....I thought that the twin tanks were an option on the early ones. Cheers, Bruce

[khyndart in CA]

Your 1964 Cooper S family car would be worth a "mint" over here now.
You are correct regarding the fuel tank as it was an option on the Cooper S models only and became standard fitment from January 1966.
I had enough trouble with my one tank when I had to change the left rear shock and all the tank fittings and straps were rusted etc !
The sender has never been accurate since, so the old marked bamboo stick is a most important tool. I don't leave home without it.

( Ken Hyndman )

[stubuchanan]

Twin tanks were a feature on Cooper S in all countries- saw a blue one in Crimea in 2007 . Had twin tanks, sliding windows, was LHD, and.mph speedo.
Interesting Stu-yours has Mini, when the Poms had Austin in that written script. Morris were like Frenchs in block letters.

http://s6.postimg.org/rrftr4lf5/FD_4870003.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

My 66 Cooper must have been suffering from an identity crisis. As you can see, it had an 'Austin-Cooper' badge on the bonnet and 'Mini Cooper S' on the boot. As I recall it (45 years later), I bought it from an English chap who lived at Albany(NZ) and who was an Austin enthusiast, probably from an earlier time when the companies' made different cars from each other. Accordingly he put an 'Austin-Cooper S' badge in place of the Morris one. I had a feeling that Australian Cooper S cars were only branded Morris, but I could easily be very much mistaken. Some Coopers had block capitals on the boot rather than written script, were they English-built?

Stu

[John McKechnie]

Ken-my Dad was an Ear , Nose and Throat Surgeon and in the 60s-80s used to go to California every 2 years for the latest conference.
When there, the other surgeons had Coopers to zoom around in, they could avoid the motorway traffic, drive on foot paths, easy to park etc. No one wanted to drive around in big long Caddys. When one of his friends came over to stay with us, he saw my 1967 Cooper S which I was racing 72-75 and he was rapt, even wanted to buy it. Coopers were common , a S was rare, he liked the twin tanks.

[khyndart in CA]

Back to Baypark. Dec. 1968.
This shows three of the US entries in the first Formula 5000 race in NZ. (Formula A in USA )
Closest car is the Sceptre HR 1 driven by Ron Grable. It has the number 8 bodywork on it but it raced and won as number 1.
Next to it is the Eisert 67 driven by Stew McMillen number 5 (This is the car that Dennis Marwood would drive for the Rorison Team in 1969.
The white car at the end is the LeGrand FA67 driven by Rex Ramsey.

Again note the work conditions, out in the sand and a few blocks of wood !

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

The day after the racing my mate and I went down to the Mount and found the Grable car sitting in the local garage on the corner of Maunganui road and Salisbury. No one seemed to care as we poked around and then climbed in and dreamed of what it was like to be a race driver. This was about as close as I ever got to the real action !

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Photo altered to hide my identity !

(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

October 1969.
Dennis Marwood now driving this Eisert 67 Formula 5000 car. This car began as an Indy car and raced twice at Indianapolis in 1967 and 1968. It was a mean looking machine and was nicknamed the " Fat One". This photo shows why !

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Dennis Marwood was always friendly and ready to share his knowledge and experiences.

( That was due to his Morrinsville area upbringing no doubt ! )


( Ken Hyndman )

[Grant Sprague]

Gee Ken you have got some interesting stories ..re the Gable f5000 etc....plus plus...... hey as for Dennis....I have meet him a couple of times really nice down to earth guy I have bought a few carbs etc from him ...... they [racing drivers] are no different to u & I its all perception we are all brothers from an other mother .............

[John McKechnie]

Any takers for what car in Team Cambridge colours is behind Dennis?-Andersons BMW maybe

[rogered]

http://s6.postimg.org/rrftr4lf5/FD_4870003.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

My 66 Cooper must have been suffering from an identity crisis. As you can see, it had an 'Austin-Cooper' badge on the bonnet and 'Mini Cooper S' on the boot. As I recall it (45 years later), I bought it from an English chap who lived at Albany(NZ) and who was an Austin enthusiast, probably from an earlier time when the companies' made different cars from each other. Accordingly he put an 'Austin-Cooper S' badge in place of the Morris one. I had a feeling that Australian Cooper S cars were only branded Morris, but I could easily be very much mistaken. Some Coopers had block capitals on the boot rather than written script, were they English-built?

Stu

its got a morris grill

[John McKechnie]

Aussie cars had this grille, The Mini K , Aussie special with a 1100 in it also had this grille

[GD66]

Any takers for what car in Team Cambridge colours is behind Dennis?-Andersons BMW maybe


Reckon so John, not many other cars had those horrid square windows...
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[khyndart in CA]

Rodger Anderson did an outstanding job driving this car. It was always consistently quick and well prepared. They probably did not get much factory support back then as 10 years earlier BMW had almost closed down due to bankruptcy and the motorsport division would not be a priority during the recovery period.
This 1969 BMW 2002 Ti had a 2 litre engine with twin Solex PHH side-draft carburetors.
See my attached photo.
I guess it had an electric fan to cool as needed as I do not see a regular engine fan.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[Bryan]

Sorry Bryan, my mistake. The later model English Minis with wind up wndows and no quarter lights had hidden hinges and the Aussie ones stayed external.

My first car was a 1968 Aussie Mini Deluxe. iirc they also got the remote gearchange on all models before the Poms did. Went quite well after I fitted a big-valve Cooper head that someone had ported and polished. Dynoed 58bhp at the wheels, kept up with Escort Sport 1600 around Ruapuna. :-)

[Bruce Blacklock]

All Cooper S models built in Australia were Morris with the block print style badging. When an ordered for delivery through an Austin dealer in NZ the car would have the Austin badges fitted at the plant before shipping. Grilles generally remained the Morris version, some were changed by the dealer in NZ.

[Ross Hollings]

Right on the button Bruce,and just to prove what you are saying a couple of photos of 2 of my old mins one Aussie s owned in the 80,s raced it at Whenuapai,Puke and Austin Cooper 1275 S 1967[with Morris grill and Austin script on rear], the other a 1964 998 Cooper,only one owner when i bought it,had it for 10 years and sold it in 93,sweet little car,raced at puke and Ardmore.Just bought 2007 Turbo S the other day,really enjoying it.Goes like stink !!!!!
Hope its a bit warmer in Perth than here in Rotorua.!!!!2578425785

[khyndart in CA]

January 1969. Pukekohe.
Derek Bell of Great Britain, came out to NZ to drive a Ferrari 246T
with a V6 engine along with Chris Amon.
I took this photo of him as he walked with his dad behind the
grandstand. He signed it a few years ago as he liked the image of
him looking young and thin. He went on to become one of the great long
distance racers and he won the Le Mans 24 hours,five times.

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( Ken Hyndman )

[John McKechnie]

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While on Mini Coopers, here was a trip the Cooper Car Club had to Helensville in 1991.
Mine is the Metallic Red with gold stripes. All had the same style grille.
It was an Austin 1964 997 and had the factory metal rally seats.
Car was in Chch turn of the century.

[khyndart in CA]

October 1969.
Graeme Lawrence now had the Ferrari 246 T that Chris Amon had driven the previous season.
It first appeared at this Baypark meeting.
It was a beautiful race car and it was great to watch Graeme in action on this short track.

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( Ken Hyndman )
p.s. What has happened to this Ferrari ?

[Allan]

I took my brother who was not a car or race person to Baypark for one of the meetings where the Ferrari was running and his comment was that it "sounded like a real race car".

[rogered]

October 1969.
Graeme Lawrence now had the Ferrari 246 T that Chris Amon had driven the previous season.
It first appeared at this Baypark meeting.
It was a beautiful race car and it was great to watch Graeme in action on this short track.

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( Ken Hyndman )
p.s. What has happened to this Ferrari ?

Take a look at this thread,

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?1597-old-ferrari-at-a-used-car-auction

[khyndart in CA]

Thank you rogered. That is wonderful information on a beautiful racecar. I do know it was at Baypark in Oct. 1969 when I took these
photos. Perhaps that did not count in the record book !.
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With backing from Shell Oil, New Zealand national driver Graeme Lawrence was then enabled to buy '0008' from Ferrari. He made his racing debut in this car on December 28, 1969, in the Bay Park International at Mount Maunganui, New Zealand, finishing second. "

That would have made a nice investment compared to some of the things I have spent money on !

(Ken Hyndman )

[rogered]

This auction was only 2 weeks ago. I wonder who brought it?

[khyndart in CA]

Oct. 1969. Baypark.
Indonesian driver Henky (Hengky) Iriawan entered in the Gold Star event. He drove a beautiful new Elfin 600 with a FVA engine. The car was dark blue with a red stripe and gold pin striping.
The B&W photo does not do it justice.
He was friends with the Lawrence family and you see him here having fun with Graeme.
Sadly Henky died a few years later in a go kart accident in Indonesia. His legacy is carried on by his grandson Senna Iriawan who is a promising young race driver today.

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( Ken Hyndman )

[Oldfart]

Now there was a name I had forgotten! Really nice guy too.

[GD66]

Yes, and easily the most misspelt and mispronounced race driver name of the day...little bloke went well in that lovely car, though.

[khyndart in CA]

Bay Park, November 1969
We were spoiled back then with racing at either Bay Park or Pukekohe just a few weeks apart.
This shows Graeme Lawrence during practice at Bay Park. The Marwood Eisert is in the background.

Also Graeme trying a new type of spoiler ! I wonder how that worked at high speed ?

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( Ken Hyndman )
Does anyone recognize the other drivers in the last photo? Thanks.

[fullnoise68]

Looks like a young Dale Mathers in the white stubbies ........!!

[Rod Grimwood]

Bay Park, November 1969
We were spoiled back then with racing at either Bay Park or Pukekohe just a few weeks apart.
This shows Graeme Lawrence during practice at Bay Park. The Marwood Eisert is in the background.

Also Graeme trying a new type of spoiler ! I wonder how that worked at high speed ?

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( Ken Hyndman )
Does anyone recognize the other drivers in the last photo? Thanks.


Looks like the guys are in semi fancy dress, with wing on helmet and be good to pick the one behind Graeme with the big plastic nose and glass's

[khyndart in CA]

November 1969. Bay Park.
Graham McRae's first appearance with his McLaren M10A with a Traco prepared Chevy 5 litre engine. Chassis # 300/06.
It looked great in the Crown Lynn black & gold trim.
Graham was very talented both as a driver and a constructor.

First photo shows the M10A being loaded onto a trailer at the Bay Park pit area.

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Next photo shows a concerned McRae waiting for the car to be prepared.

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Last photo shows a happier Graham McRae by his M10A and being
assisted by his mechanic, Murray Charles.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[Grant Sprague]

Not wrong there Ken , results shows this factual statement .. from you ............. a great man

[khyndart in CA]

Bay Park. Dec 1969.
Swede Ulf Norinder checking out his Lola T190 as Graham McRae looks on. From the stories at the time, Ulf was just as dangerous off the track as he was on it !
He did enjoy his visit to NZ even if he was not very competitive !

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[khyndart in CA]

Bay Park. Dec 1969
American driver, Mike Goth's Surtees TS 5 # 96


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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Dec. 1969. Bay Park.
The Big Banger Saloon Car race gather before going out on the track as Bryan Faloon goes across in front in his Rorstan Climax.
He had one of the first "Bell" type helmets and when I asked him what it was like, he kindly let me try it on. He was a really nice man.

Note in the centre as Red Dawson puts his helmet on that his Mustang does not have a front spoiler on as it had previously.
Is that due to the short straights at Bay Park and better cooling was needed for the hard braking ?

Can you you pick out the 3 "Cambridge Team" cars in this photo ?

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(Ken Hyndman )

[John McKechnie]

No doubt about it Ken, you were the right man with the camera.
Keep them coming please.
Rodger Anderson had Cambridge, Bryan Faloon and of course Rod Coppins.
First time I have noticed John Rileys rego.

[khyndart in CA]

Dec 1969. Bay Park
Ron Grable walks away from his McLaren M10 A 300/05 which was greatly modified with the radiators moved back behind the driver allowing for the wedge nose.
Grable did very well here and drove the winning car twice.
It is ironic that this car was M10 A / 05 and ended up after accident damage as " crushed into a two foot square coffee table ! " Graham McRae's M10 A was / 06 and the " tub ended up in a children's playground and was eventually disposed of." After seeing the work and skills that went into building these cars at Trojan that seemed such a shame.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[Grant Ellwood]

Dec. 1969. Bay Park.
The Big Banger Saloon Car race gather before going out on the track as Bryan Faloon goes across in front in his Rorstan Climax.
He had one of the first "Bell" type helmets and when I asked him what it was like, he kindly let me try it on. He was a really nice man.
Note in the centre as Red Dawson puts his helmet on that his Mustang does not have a front spoiler on as it had previously. Is that due to the short straights at Bay Park and better cooling was needed for the hard braking ?
Can you you pick out the 3 "Cambridge Team" cars in this photo ?

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(Ken Hyndman )
Ken, re your comments about Bryan Faloon's new helmet, a couple of years earlier when I was working as a very young mechanic on Bryan's Brabham BT4 I entered my Anglia in a clubby at Levin. Bryan had just bought a new Buco helmet and gave it to me for the day.
The races were run in reverse direction and I guess I was probably the first person to crash at Cabbage Tree corner on what would normally be the entrance to that bend, going at a good enough clip and head first into the safety bank. Besides totaling the car I also broke the helmet against the steering column. Can't recall how long it took to pay him back out of my apprentice wages but as you remarked he was a nice guy and never lost his cool the whole time I worked for him.

[Ross Hollings]

According to Carjam vehicle rego DG 8237 /John Riley went overseas in 1998.

[fullnoise68]

According to Carjam vehicle rego DG 8237 /John Riley went overseas in 1998.

To the Bowdens in Queensland, Ross.

[rogered]

To the Bowdens in Queensland, Ross.

They quietly vacuumed up all the good mustangs around that time, before us dumb kiwis saw any value in them :)

[khyndart in CA]

They quietly vacuumed up all the good mustangs around that time, before us dumb kiwis saw any value in them :)
I hope the "vacuumed up" vehicles ended up with a better fate than these two McLaren M 10 A s !
" M10 A / 05 ended up after accident damage as " crushed into a two foot square coffee table ! " Graham McRae's M10 A was / 06 and the " tub ended up in a children's playground and was eventually disposed of."

[khyndart in CA]

Dec 28 1969.
Ron Grable after winning the Bay Park International race for the second year in a row.
He looks a little uncertain of which way to go next.
He never had that problem when he was out on the track !

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[khyndart in CA]

[QUOTE=khyndart in CA;42739]Dec. 1969. Bay Park.
The Big Banger Saloon Car race gather before going out on the track as Bryan Faloon goes across in front in his Rorstan Climax.
He had one of the first "Bell" type helmets and when I asked him what it was like, he kindly let me try it on. He was a really nice man.

Note in the centre as Red Dawson puts his helmet on that his Mustang does not have a front spoiler on as it had previously.
Is that due to the short straights at Bay Park and better cooling was needed for the hard braking ?



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Dawson Mustang at Pukekohe. Early December 1969

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Pukekohe 1969.
The Rothman Cigarette Company sponsored a Cambridge Racing Team and seemed to almost have a car in every race.
This is the very successful Mini Cooper of Barry Phillips,surrounded by children of all ages and Barry talking to family and friends.
It was the rare 970 S model with the engine bored out to 999 cc and it was a rocket.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Bay Park. Oct. 1969.
A great NZ driver, Jim Boyd, in another Cambridge Racing Team race car.
A 1966 Lola T 70 Mk 2. chassis SL 71/ 30. ( A beautiful machine )

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( Ken Hyndman )

(At least we know what brand of tire Jim had on the car back then ! )

[GD66]

Car has turned out at Goodwood recently still in the same livery. Those fag packet paint jobs don't always look great, but on the T70 looked a treat. :cool:

[rogered]

Bay Park. Oct. 1969.
A great NZ driver, Jim Boyd, in another Cambridge Racing Team race car.
A 1966 Lola T 70 Mk 2. chassis SL 71/ 30. ( A beautiful machine )

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( Ken Hyndman )
Iv been curious for a long time about this car, and how it came to be in NZ so early in its life. No doubt a big dollar exercise at the time.
Does anybody know the background?

[John McKechnie]

Rodger- I have a Motorman article on Jim Boyd, I will bring it down for you to read while you are waiting on the grid

[khyndart in CA]

This NZ Classic Car magazine issue has an excellent article about this Lola.

http://www.classiccar.co.nz/articles/lola-t70-mkii-canam-contender-177

[Steve Holmes]

Stunning images Ken, thanks so much for sharing them.

[khyndart in CA]

Thanks Steve,
I am pleased that you enjoy them and I will always be glad that my Mum did not throw away my box of photos when I left to go overseas.
There are still some more to come.
Again thanks for the encouragement as I did not know how they would look in B&W.

(Ken Hyndman )

[Kevin Hirst]

Thanks Steve,
I am pleased that you enjoy them and I will always be glad that my Mum did not throw away my box of photos when I left to go overseas.
There are still some more to come.
Again thanks for the encouragement as I did not know how they would look in B&W.

(Ken Hyndman )

Hi, Ken. Were you part of the hyndmans quary outfit I grew up on Campbells rd in walton ngarua and alot of your quarry products were used on the farm , good to catch up with old neighbours.

[khyndart in CA]

Hello Kevin,
Yes, that is where I grew up. I spent a lot of time in the quarry with my Dad listening to a lot of the farmers telling stories of what they went through during WW2 etc.
Dad always worked hard but he always found time to time to take us to motor racing from Waharoa
Airport, Matamata, Mount Maunganui,Raglan, Ardmore, Western Springs and Pukekohe etc.
Great memories.
Thanks for saying hello.

(Ken Hyndman )

[Kevin Hirst]

Hello Kevin,
Yes, that is where I grew up. I spent a lot of time in the quarry with my Dad listening to a lot of the farmers telling stories of what
they went through during WW2 etc. Dad always worked hard but he always found time to time to take us to motor racing from Waharoa
Airport, Matamata, Mount Maunganui,Raglan, Ardmore, Western Springs and Pukekohe etc. Great memories.
Thanks for saying hello.

(Ken Hyndman )

Great to hear Ken, much the same scenario at Walton many years ago, The old airshows at Whaharoa etc, I also raced the grasstracks there & raglan Keripehi etc. also a few times at Puke, but more recently built a Lotus seven copy &raced allover the place with that, great times, great days, love the stuff you are seng into TRS, Cheers.

[rogered]

Thanks JM :)

[Ross Hollings]

Great photos Ken ,did the dummy and main grids at Pukekohe for many years in late 60's and early 70's ,put most of the famous names on grids there,wished i had had a digital camera then,remember once when my wife Cushla who used contact lenses,the old hard type,which flicked out on the dummy grid just before race start,here were all the top line saloon drivers ,Paul Fahey etc,crawling around on their hands and knees trying to find the lens [which we didnt],it was like a family in those days everyone new everyone else grand old days.Raced at Keripehi also and Te Awamutu in my Mini 850 !!

[John McKechnie]

Thanks JM :)
Rodger- just a little taster from autoNEWS vol 3 number 5 18 Sept 1969-

"I personally tossed up between a sports car and a Formula F5000, but after a discussion with my sponsors, we leased the T70."

Will have this article for you, also several on the Elfin 400.
Also if Grant Sprague wants to show up- can have the articles on Garry and Ernie

[Rod Grimwood]

John, had chat with Grant yesterday, and reckons he will be at HD, be great to catch up.

[khyndart in CA]

October 1969.
Jim Boyd's opposition came mainly from this car. Grahame Harvey's well prepared Elfin Chevrolet.


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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Pukekohe. Nov 1970.

Garry Pedersen drove this stunning looking sports car. The Gemco Olds.
This car originally started out as a Lotus 18/21 and driven by Tony Shelly, later by Johnny Riley.
It had a 3.5 litre Olds engine with Traco parts.
In all its history it never looked better than this.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[John McKechnie]

Real Canam styling- right down to the kiwi

[khyndart in CA]

Nov. 1970. Pukekohe.
Paul Fahey,s Cambridge Racing Team Mustang.
Later to be the PDL Mustang. Was there ever a better Mustang anywhere ?
The number 104 remained on this car over many seasons.

"This car is a genuine KK Boss 429 mustang that was imported to NZ by Paul Fahey in late 1970 without its motor and transmission, and was fitted with a 351C HO motor. It was initially campaigned in Cambridge Racing Team colours, but with only mixed success at first. "
Quote from NZMustang.com

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(My young nephew showing me what a cool car this was. Amen to that ! )

(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Here is a small example of the Cambridge Racing Team colours that I could not show in the B&W photos. (Thanks to NZ Classic Car article)

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Ken Hyndman.

(Soon I will be off to Oz ...Feb. 1970 )

[khyndart in CA]

1970
I went to Sydney in Feb. 1970 and worked in a Holden dealership in Woolloomoolo which was quite a change from Morrinsville and living at home with my Mum !
I went to the Warwick Farm track a couple of times. I was having trouble with this camera but I thought I would share some of these photos anyway. (Please excuse the quality )
My first impression was of how wide the track was as compared to Bay Park and I thought this must be like being at Indianapolis !
A course worker warned me to get out of the way as I photographed this first corner and thought of all the great drivers that had passed through here.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[Grant Sprague]

Hi John & Rod, I will come up to the Feb meet............ Mike Fiest will be there to collect some piks from Steve at ice breaker to restart the Sprague piks ..[which is much appreciated...... Thanks Steve for the starting of it & Mike for continuation ........... as Steve has bigger work load now than ever writing books etc .... Thanks keep cool .. Grant

[khyndart in CA]

Hey Grant
I think you hit the wrong key !
Talk to me Big Guy !

Ken

[Grant Sprague]

John, had chat with Grant yesterday, and reckons he will be at HD, be great to catch up. opppps replied to this but scroll down lol sorry

[Grant Sprague]

Hey Grant
I think you hit the wrong key !
Talk to me Big Guy !

Ken Hi Ken hope you all good over there ........ kind regards Grant

[khyndart in CA]

Warwick Farm. 1970
Pete/ Ian Geoghegan's 1967 GTA Mustang with 302 engine is prepared in the pit area.
In the background Leo Geoghegan is working on getting his Lotus 59 prepared also.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Warwick Farm. 1970.
Geoghegan brothers preparing their cars before entering the battle fields.
I think that is Pete with the tie on. (Correct me if I am wrong please )
Leo is on the ground sorting gear ratios for his Lotus 59.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Warwick Farm. 1970
Leo Geoghegan in his Lotus 59B. Having adjustments made in the pits.
This car had a Waggot TC4V motor. 2 Litres based on a Cortina block. Twin OHC with 4 valves per cylinder.
It was a good enough combination to win the Australian Championship in 1970.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Warwick Farm. 1970
Allan Moffat's 1969 Mach 1 302 Mustang sits in the paddock waiting to do battle with the 1967 Mustang of Pete Geoghegan.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Warwick Farm. 1970.
I tried to capture one of the great races between Geoghegan and Moffat. They went at it like this lap after lap. Note the corner is coming up and I wonder who braked first ! (great stuff )

(Apparently another spectator at this race was a "Des Wall, who successfully bid $ 322,000
for the Geoghegan Mustang at the Shannons Sydney Motor Show 3 years ago and is enjoying every moment with it.") (Uniquecarsmag.com.au )
I think it is great these cars are kept in their former glory. They were wonderful times for racing.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

In 1969 at Warwick Farm, Pete Geoghegan in his Mustang and Brian Foley in his Mini Cooper had a great race with the Mustang just coming out ahead at the end.
Enjoy the Youtube video as it shows how much Pete had to work at it, keeping the Mustang on the track !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTriIxFXYb4

(Ken Hyndman )

[Grant Sprague]

In 1969 at Warwick Farm, Pete Geoghegan in his Mustang and Brian Foley in his Mini Cooper had a great race with the Mustang just coming out ahead at the end.
Enjoy the Youtube video as it shows how much Pete had to work at it, keeping the Mustang on the track !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTriIxFXYb4

(Ken Hyndman )Thank :D you Ken ......

[khyndart in CA]

September 13,1970. Amaroo Park. NSW.
Amaroo Park was an easy drive from where I lived in Sydney. I liked it as a spectator as you could easily park on the hill and sit at a bench and look out over a good part of the track. It was almost a natural ampitheatre.
Like Warwick Farm it is closed to racing and been developed for housing etc.
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(Ken Hyndman )

[Greg Mackie]

I was driving that day, and would've waved, but was too busy trying to get round Bernie....managed to grab the Vee lap record, though. Elfin Vee #31.
http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab172/happydaze8/Race%20cars/CCF17062009_00000_2_zpseff6be80.jpg (http://s861.photobucket.com/user/happydaze8/media/Race%20cars/CCF17062009_00000_2_zpseff6be80.jpg.html)

Greg Mackie

[khyndart in CA]

Amaroo Park, Sept 13. 1970
Greg,
I only took 1 photo of a Formula Vee car that day. I think it is an Elfin. Could it possibly be you ?
I had never been that close to a race track before with a car coming towards me. I got so excited I almost dropped my camera on the track !
I hope you can recognize the car in the photo. That would be great. Thanks for sharing this race information.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Amaroo Park. Sept 13. 1970
Waiting to take on any challengers is one of my all-time favorites, the Pete Geoghegan 1967 GTA Mustang

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Amaroo Park. Sept 13. 1970
Frank Matich entered his new McLaren M 10 B # 400-10-2. I think this was the first outing with the Repco Holden 5.0 litre V8 engine.
It certainly was great to watch him drive on this short circuit. It proved to be a winning combination as Frank won the Australian Grand Prix in Nov. 1970 driving this car at Warwick Farm. Starting there from pole and setting fastest lap about sums it up as a job well done !

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( Ken Hyndman )

[Greg Mackie]

Ken, that Vee does look like an Elfin.....could be Howard Revell [Rays son].

The Anglia behind the McLaren is Graeme Hodges, and the Mini is Nando Adorini.

[Ross Hollings]

These are great photos Ken,what sort of camera were you using and lens size etc

[khyndart in CA]

Ross
It was just a cheap 35 camera, no lens. Possibly a Pentax. It actually gave me trouble and let in too much light.
Anyway I am glad you like the photos. Thanks.


(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Ken, that Vee does look like an Elfin.....could be Howard Revell [Rays son].

The Anglia behind the McLaren is Graeme Hodges, and the Mini is Nando Adorini.

Greg,
I think you are correct in that it is Howard Revell
Both he and his Dad had great careers in the world of midget car racing.

(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Sept. 13 1970.
Even though Frank Matich was pleased with his McLaren M10 B, he spoke after his drive that he had very mixed feelings as he had been at Monza the previous weekend when his friend Jochen Rindt had died when his Lotus 72 had crashed. He had also been at the McLaren works when Bruce McLaren had died June and weeks later another Tasman competitor, Piers Courage had died during the Dutch Grand Prix.
1970 was an awful year Formula One drivers.
This was all exactly 44 years ago, may there never be another year like that again.

(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Sept 13 1970. Amaroo Park
Frank Matich preparing to enter his McLaren M10B and to see how well it would run on this track.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Sept 13. 1970. Amaroo Park.
Frank Matich being push started in his beautiful McLaren M10 B with a Repco 5 litre engine.

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Heading off into the sunset.
As I must do also as this is my last photo in this thread. (Thanks for following along)

Little did I realize at the time that almost 2 years to the day I would be hired at Trojan Works in England
where this race car was built.
(that would be another thread if anyone is interested.)

(Ken Hyndman )

[Rod Grimwood]

Sounds interesting Ken, get writing fella

[John McKechnie]

Likewise, Rod, no reason to change buses, we have an excellent tour guide.

[Grant Sprague]

Sept 13. 1970. Amaroo Park.
Frank Matich being push started in his beautiful McLaren M10 B with a Repco 5 litre engine.

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Heading off into the sunset.
As I must do also as this is my last photo in this thread. (Thanks for following along)

Little did I realize at the time that almost 2 years to the day I would be hired at Trojan Works in England
where this race car was built.
(that would be another thread if anyone is interested.)

(Ken Hyndman )Ken , I am not sure if I mentioned , Gary worked for Frank about mid 70,s on the way back to NZ from UK ..... I also ended up working for Frank on the , then new wheel alignment machine in Cremorne ... Gary held held him in high regards naturally , i was about 18 at the time[ Gary had moved on bavk home] me doing the teen age Bondi thing, I have a couple of piks I will find of Gary in the rear of tyre shop where they worked on his F5000, also a couple of mine at Franks place over looking the shore was an xmas party , being a teen , every thing was a bit of a blur , but he had two beautiful daughters lol .... I do remember that ...:p

[Rod Grimwood]

Gee Grant your memory is amazing.

[Grant Sprague]

Gee Grant your memory is amazing. Ha HA Roddy they were very interesting years so can remember a bit , I knew lots re wheel alignments etc camber , caster, etc etc ...so Frank thought I was the young bees knees....with some knowledge.........I use to watch as a boy & take it in ....reading tyres on my race cars was a great advantage as years ticked by... even Ernie was amazed ......ps Hey mate how you going ??Talk soon

[khyndart in CA]

Grant,
You do have a good memory. If you look at posting # 106 you will see Mrs Matich at the back of the Fairlane along with her
young daughter.
I have tried to write to you on the message board but they will not go through because your message box is full !
Do check it out and let me know.

[Grant Sprague]

Thanks Ken , give me a few days etc just pretty full on doing other things not really pc savvy................ got some re-entries coming up thanks to Steve/ H & Mike F........... Kind Regards Grant

[khyndart in CA]

Grant,
Tell us more about you with this machine.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Amaroo Park. 1976. Highlights.
This shows how exciting this short track could be.
Note the great move by Graeme Lawrence at the 2 min 50 mark.
(Also note the lack of excitement with the announcer as a Kiwi wins !)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQYIykF5_kc

(Ken Hyndman )

[Grant Sprague]

Grant,
Tell us more about you with this machine.

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(Ken Hyndman ) Hi Ken....well this car was originally built in Invercargall I think in the early 70,s was a U2 with 1600 cross flow or pre cross flow not really sure
Later on it found its way to Timaru where a few of the local boys did a re body & made it into a very good looking car all alloy & slippery shape with march look alike nose cone .. some of the same team that helped Gary, Leo &Dad.... it was then fitted with a cook 2.0 race nissan engine , c/r/g/box better brakes etc.... the car was good very good infact , during my trips home to Timaru to catch up with family & friends , Dad said I want to show you something the car was named by builder a merlyn or close to it...........any way we rocked up to David Browns home [Timaru] the car was McLaren orange and was winning the SI series [scanz] I was looking for a bit of excitment & did a deal soon after, Dave dropped the car up to Wellington I gave him a mazda 626 LTD lol , I painted the car my then logo business colours black & red.....The pic you see is at Bay Park the car in the NI did not have quite the straight line speed as the twin cam turbo cars but not that far off them you can see Jamie behind me as we stuck it on pole & managed to head Jamie off [only just] at this meeting I remember him coming up to me & saying well you no yr way around here that gave me a wee smile as Jamie was the man .. being my then home circut it was an easy track to master it just flowed for me , we never did the complete NI series in the yrs I had it , I would do Bay Park, Taupo & Manfield...never took it to Puke not sure why not.....I used it on bent sprints , drags, club days lots of hill climbs , it was a car that was very well built for those who have had drives of fast go carts it was like that but bigger no understeer or oversteer it just was like on rails..if you over drove it it would just do a four wheel drift but with out having to correct it amazing chassis design for that time ....... strangley enough when you buy race cars we hear some times that parts get robbed off them befor delivery Ernie always said if any one buys a race car do the deal after a race & take it .. i had heard the fron [McLaren springs] had been removed before i got the car but was rectified very quickly Ernie was on to it .. The car is still in Tauranga as sold to a friend it is like new Ken thats about it .

[khyndart in CA]

Grant,
That is great information. Thank you.
As you can see even though I live a long way away I am still keeping track of you !
I wish we had met when I worked on Cameron Road for Vern J and staff.

(Ken Hyndman )

[Grant Sprague]

Ken I did not know you worked for Vern, Hey we are not over & out yet , havent even started living yet lol, I have a young family that keeps me young so I can send you some positive vibs my good friend ............. we wil be organising more Sprague family piks in a week or two , Thanks for showing interest Ken hope you well mate .. Grant

[Steve Holmes]

Ken, do you have any more pics? I've really been enjoying these.

[khyndart in CA]

Bay Park.
I need help in identifying when I took these photos at Bay Park and who is driving.
Thank you.
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[seaqnmac27]

Bay Park.
I need help in identifying when I took these photos at Bay Park and who is driving.
Thank you.
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Richards leading Brocklehurst

Halliday leading Richards

Copins, Dawson Riley

[khyndart in CA]

Thank you for that information.
Do you know when that meet took place ?

(Looks like Jim Richards is going to need all the track to get through this corner ! He kicked up the dust
coming in and looks to be trying as hard as he can !)
They were great days of racing....

[seaqnmac27]

I'de guessin 71 or 72

[Bruce302]

I'de guessin 71 or 72

Feb- March 1972 judging by the Coppins colour (gold bonnet/hood) it was flat black later in the year.

Bruce.

[khyndart in CA]

December 1975. Bay Park.
This time with a bit of colour. Rolling thunder as Allan Moffat in the white Monza and Leo Leonard in the PDL Mustang lead the way along the back straight on the warm up lap. (note the crowd size in the middle photo )
There were 3 races that day for these cars which allowed me to move around the track.
Was there ever a better line up of saloon cars and drivers in NZ than this ?

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[khyndart in CA]

P.S.
This really is the end of my photos and again thanks for the encouragement and input from so many of you.
I never thought these old photos would ever see the light of day again and this site has allowed that to happen.
A HUGE thanks to Steve H for the initial help and leaving me to enter my own photos, of which I did not have a clue about when I started.

The Shoe Box is empty !

( Ken Hyndman )

[Allan]

Thank you Ken for sharing with us. These old collections bring to light stuff that happened and has been long forgotten. It is great to have a forum like this to share and view these and very timely as many of the folks depicted are either getting on in years or have passed on. For this we thank you Steve.
Allan

[Shano]

Appreciate the effort you've gone to Ken. The photos and information you've posted have been very entertaining.

[khyndart in CA]

Seeing Grant driving that Anglia brought back memories of how I had to sell mine to get across to Australia in early 1970. I thought it was a good looking vehicle in light blue and I had just overhauled the engine and then tried to get a buyer interested. Finally a young man called and wanted to see the car. I took him for a drive and then he asked if he could drive it. He hurled it around the back roads from Morrinsville and I could tell he had talent but I was a terrible passenger, almost curled up under the dash by the time we got back into town ! I could not wait to make the deal and get the car into his name before I was left with a smoking wreck !
That young man went on to drive much more powerful Fords than my Anglia.
That young man was Craig Pulman.
He got the Anglia and I got to Australia !
I often wonder what became of my Anglia. ( BN 4259 )

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[Grant Sprague]

Wooooow Ken the name [Craig rings a bell ??????] ....Hey must talk about Morrinsvile did you know the Smiths there .. Ray use to play in the Dragon Band very long story ....... lol

[khyndart in CA]

Craig Pulman is mentioned in this post from Steve.

Holden Monaro thread.
Page 4. # 72. 7/19/2011


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Craig Pulman has been building race engines for years, and has/had a company called Pro-Action which built a bunch of those space-frame Trans-Am cars in the 90s. Someone on here should have a contact for him. No doubt he'd be able to fill in some details on where the car came from before he got it.





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[Grant Sprague]

Yes Ken, I heard a lot about Craig Pulman , I think he might have painted this car black or a similar car, only contact I had with the man was at taupo when I helped push his car to start it ..I....understand he also built engines etc etc not really sure what became of him... :confused:

[Bryan]

Think Craig Pulman owns and runs Gate Works in Papakura.

[khyndart in CA]

Sometimes an old slide shows up and this one reminded me of being at Oran Park, June 28 1970 and not having much luck with my camera. After the racing was done I managed to take a couple of photos before heading home. I found this buried in a closet at home recently and had it developed yesterday.
There in the background is the trailer for the late Glyn Scott who was to die tragically just a few weeks later.
The car in the photo was driven by Ken Goodwin and here is a brief description from oldracingcars.com
Rennmax
'the Goodwin car'
"BN3/169"
Ken Goodwin: and built and utilizing Palliser wheels and uprights. First recorded outing Warwick Farm 13 Jul 1969; initially 997cc Ford, then next time with a 1600cc twin cam; Australian Gold Star 1970 (raced at Oran Park 28 Jun 1970 with a Cosworth FVA (?) and at the Sam Hordern Trophy at Warwick Farm on 6 Sep 1970 with a 1500cc Ford); Singapore GP 12 Apr 1971 (twin-cam 1600cc). Then entered by Goodwin for Bob Muir Gold Star 1971 with a 2-litre Waggott engine. For Goodwin at the Sam Hordern Trophy at Warwick Farm 5 Sep 1971 (Waggott 1.6). Inactive for some time until bought by Terry Hook 1973 for the new Van Heusen ANF2 series. The number '169' may have been invented by Barry Lake around this time to identify the car. This car ended up with Ray Hanger and was sold by him to Vaughan Stibbard some time in the mid 1990s. Retained May 2012.

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[khyndart in CA]

June 26. 1970.
It was a sad day at Lakeside a month after the Oran Park meeting.
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From the Sydney Morning Herald. July 27. 1970.


(KJH )

[garry simkin]

Sometimes an old slide shows up and this one reminded me of being at Oran Park, June 28 1970 and not having much luck with my camera. After the racing was done I managed to take a couple of photos before heading home. I found this buried in a closet at home recently and had it developed yesterday.
There in the background is the trailer for the late Glyn Scott who was to die tragically just a few weeks later.
The car in the photo was driven by Ken Goodwin and here is a brief description from oldracingcars.com
Rennmax
'the Goodwin car'
"BN3/169"
Ken Goodwin: and built and utilizing Palliser wheels and uprights. First recorded outing Warwick Farm 13 Jul 1969; initially 997cc Ford, then next time with a 1600cc twin cam; Australian Gold Star 1970 (raced at Oran Park 28 Jun 1970 with a Cosworth FVA (?) and at the Sam Hordern Trophy at Warwick Farm on 6 Sep 1970 with a 1500cc Ford); Singapore GP 12 Apr 1971 (twin-cam 1600cc). Then entered by Goodwin for Bob Muir Gold Star 1971 with a 2-litre Waggott engine. For Goodwin at the Sam Hordern Trophy at Warwick Farm 5 Sep 1971 (Waggott 1.6). Inactive for some time until bought by Terry Hook 1973 for the new Van Heusen ANF2 series. The number '169' may have been invented by Barry Lake around this time to identify the car. This car ended up with Ray Hanger and was sold by him to Vaughan Stibbard some time in the mid 1990s. Retained May 2012.

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Vaughan still owns this car, and sadly has not progressed much with it. Do you have any other pics of it Ken, preferably rear end shots.Cheers, Garry Simkin.

[khyndart in CA]

Vaughan still owns this car, and sadly has not progressed much with it. Do you have any other pics of it Ken, preferably rear end shots.Cheers, Garry Simkin.

Sorry Garry,
That was the only photo I have of this car and its taken me 46 years to get it developed !
Ken H.

[khyndart in CA]

Once again as I was threatened that if I did not clean out the garage someone else would come in and do it for me !
There amongst some old papers was a box of slides and I managed to rescue the following images of a day that I spent at Oran Park in June 1970.
I will need some help with identifying some of the participants and thank you in advance.
First the programme cover.
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Looking along the front entry road with sedans from a Camaro to Minis.
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A Mk 1 Jaguar ( Barrie Sharp ? ) leading Peter Brock's A 30 and others onto to front straight.
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During the lunch break the 1968 Porsche 908 that Jo Siffert had driven at the 1968 Nurburgring race was driven around on a trailer before being taken to a race car show in Sydney.
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(Ken Hyndman.. some more to come. )

[khyndart in CA]

After lunch there was some fun racing between the Porsche 911s of Brian Foley and Jim McKeown plus a good looking Torana with Barry Seton driving.

Jim McKeown talking with friends before the race.
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Brian Foley and crew prepare to go racing.
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McGrath Motors Torana. driven by Barry Seton
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(Ken Hyndman photos )

The Porsche drivers in action.
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Imgrum.org photo

[khyndart in CA]

1970 Australian Drivers Championship competitors prepare for Round 3.
Leo Geoghegan's beautiful Lotus 59 powered by a Waggott engine awaits to be put back together for the main race in which he finished second.
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Race winner Max Stewart, checks out the left rear area of his Mildren also with a 2 litre Waggott engine in a very basic paddock area at Oran Park Raceway.
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[Terry S]

Once again as I was threatened that if I did not clean out the garage someone else would come in and do it for me !
There amongst some old papers was a box of slides and I managed to rescue the following images of a day that I spent at Oran Park in June 1970.
I will need some help with identifying some of the participants and thank you in advance.
First the programme cover.
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Looking along the front entry road with sedans from a Camaro to Minis.
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A Mk 1 Jaguar ( Barrie Sharp ? ) leading Peter Brock's A 30 and others onto to front straight.
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During the lunch break the 1968 Porsche 908 that Jo Siffert had driven at the 1968 Nurburgring race was driven around on a trailer before being taken to a race car show in Sydney.
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(Ken Hyndman.. some more to come. )

Ken, the cover would be Jim Palmer in the Lotus 32 Climax

The first photo would be Pat Peck on her Chev Camaro. It was Improved Production at this stage and she often ran with Div 2 Sports Sedans. It was great off the start against the Minis but then she would get swamped.

[khyndart in CA]

A day at the Farm.
I think this about May 1970.Warwick Farm, Sydney.

Kevin Bartlett in his Mildren Waggott leads the field through I believe what was " Polo Corner".
Leo Geoghegan is tucked in right behind.

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[Dale Harvey]

No, that is not Polo, that is the first part of the esse's.
Dale.

[khyndart in CA]

Thanks Dale,
I just remembered it was a right turn and was guessing.
So I must have been on the outside at about # 6 turn as per this schematic.
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Still have fond memories of a day at the "Farm".



(Ken Hyndman )

[Ray Bell]

There's some confusion with dates here...

The Warwick Farm Autopics photo shows Geoghegan in the Lotus 39 chasing Bartlett in the HMV Trophy race on July 13, 1969. But it seems to me that Geoghegan has now rear wing in that photo whereas the car behind Bartlett's in your pic does have a rear wing.

Unless you can enlarge it and get more detail, I'd suggest it's Stewart chasing Bartlett in the Hordern Trophy of that year or the Tasman Cup race of 1970, most likely the latter.

The Peter Brock A30, by the way, had passed on to Ross Bond by the time the Barry Sharp pic was taken. And the pic of Max Stewart's car in the pits shows Glenn Abbey at the back of the truck with Alec Mildren partially obscured, and it might even be Stuart Randall, not Max himself, at the back wheel.

I am trying to remember who the woman in the checkered slacks is but it's eluding me. The Alto Ford Escort is Bob Holden's.

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
You are correct and I should not have used that Autopics photo anyway.
Thanks for naming all the others as well.
Appreciate everyone's input to my fading memory but at least some of the photos are clear !

(Ken H)

[Ray Bell]

A more accurate map of the Farm... with the same corner numbers added, though they are deceiving as the Northern Crossing 8 & 9) were really the one corner, as was the Causeway (11 & 12).

http://s26.postimg.org/lh3dl1e0p/0517_WFcircuitmap.jpg

[Ray Bell]

Ken, would it be okay for me to use the Goodwin Rennmax photo on my Rennmax thread on TNF, it's a very good photo of the car and its gentleman owner/preparer?

Also the shot of the Pacer with the Porsche in tow for yet another forum?

[Milan Fistonic]

Ken, I've got very similar photos from one of my trips to Warwick Farm and I seem to remember taking them while standing on the steps up to the Shell Bridge.

[Ray Bell]

That would be right, Milan...

There is a spectator embankment right behind you there, but you'd have heads in the way if you took pics from there.

[khyndart in CA]

Ken, would it be okay for me to use the Goodwin Rennmax photo on my Rennmax thread on TNF, it's a very good photo of the car and its gentleman owner/preparer?

Also the shot of the Pacer with the Porsche in tow for yet another forum?

Ray,
Yes of course you are most welcome to any of my photos. It took me all this time (47 years ) to bring them out in the open. That is pathetic on my part.
If you PM your email address perhaps I can send them in a clearer format. Plus you can tell me more about those forums.
(Ken)

[khyndart in CA]

So what area of the track was I at when I took this photo of Allan Moffat and Pete Geoghegan having a wonderful battle on July 7 1970 at Warwick Farm ?
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( Ken Hyndman photo. )

[Terry S]

So what area of the track was I at when I took this photo of Allan Moffat and Pete Geoghegan having a wonderful battle on July 7 1970 at Warwick Farm ?
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( Ken Hyndman photo. )

Corner 12 I believe

[seaqnmac27]

Corner 12 I believe

So that would be coming off the causeway Terry?

[Ray Bell]

Sure is, the back of the pits...

Polo looms ahead of them, the fence there separates the traffic coming across the Northern Crossing from those heading into Polo, way in the distance is the Shell Bridge right in the middle of the esses.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by khyndart in CA
Grant,
You do have a good memory. If you look at posting # 106 you will see Mrs Matich at the back of the Fairlane along with her
young daughter..

His memory isn't so amazing, Frank had three daughters (not two)...

The youngest is the one sitting in the boot near Joan, that's Lee, probably about nine at that time. The others were Kim and Katrina. And the mechanics with the car and later pushing it are Peter Mabey and the late Graeme (Lugsy) Adams.

Any chance of knowing the car with No 10 on it in the pit late just behind Frank might be?

[khyndart in CA]

I went to the "Farm" for the first time in May 1970.
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I expected Frank Matich to run away with the sports car race but when the practice sessions started this beautiful machine came racing around.
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K Hyndman photo )

The Neil Allen Elfin ME 5 Chevrolet was the star of the day and won the main race.
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( Oldrace photos from Imgrum.org. )

I found this interesting article regarding this Elfin ME 5.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/june-1997/84/whizeer-oz


(Ken Hyndman )

[Terry S]

His memory isn't so amazing, Frank had three daughters (not two)...

Any chance of knowing the car with No 10 on it in the pit late just behind Frank might be?

Ray, I know my eyes are slowly fading but I can't see a car # 10 behind Frank.

Which post are you referring to?

[khyndart in CA]

Terry,
Ray was referring to this photo I took and I may have cropped too much out.
(Looks like stiff competition for the M10B !)
Sept. 13. 1970. Amaroo Park. NSW.

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(Ken Hyndman photo )

[Ray Bell]

If I get through the day okay I'll post a photo of the compliance plate the McMillen/Marwood Eisert later wore in Nebraska...

And now as I look more closely that's a '30' on that car. I wonder if it's the Graham Wood Cooper-Climax?

By the way, that's a great photo of Niel Allen in the ME5, and it looks like its his old Lotus 23B behind him.

[seaqnmac27]

If I get through the day okay I'll post a photo of the compliance plate the McMillen/Marwood Eisert later wore in Nebraska...

And now as I look more closely that's a '30' on that car. I wonder if it's the Graham Wood Cooper-Climax?

By the way, that's a great photo of Niel Allen in the ME5, and it looks like its his old Lotus 23B behind him.

Defi0nitely #30. The Eisert in Dennis Marwoods hands:

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[SPman]

What eventually happened to the Eisert?

[khyndart in CA]

I found this entry in "oldracingcars.com."
Eisert;
" The 1965 car remained in New Zealand until 1970 and was then shipped back to the US where it was sold, possibly via Pierre Phillips, to Bill Tempero (Ft Collins, CO) and fitted with wedge-style bodywork. He raced it in F5000 in 1971 and 1972 after which it was converted for street use by brothers Wayne and Steve Huntley in Nebraska. It was also used as a show car by Fred Bosselman in the late 1970s or early 1980s, probably at his Bosselman Truck Plaza in Grand Island, Nebraska. In the early 1990s it was acquired by Bill Wiswedel (Holland, MI) who has restored it to 1965 colours but still with the later, squarer bodywork. Still with Wiswedel in September 2014.
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Bay Park. Oct. 1969.
(Ken Hyndman photo )

[Ray Bell]

Here's the Eisert in its present abode... at Holland in Michigan...

http://s26.postimg.org/g4j4knfi1/0517fr2012mich_Eisert.jpg

There've been some changes since its early days. The car has always worn a Chev V8, both in F5000 and in Indy form.

Owner Bill Wiswedel is something of a collector and has a wide range of cars, hot rods to ex-Foyt Indy cars. Here he is with Jerry Entin and the Eisert, which by 2016 was undergoing a bit of resto work:

http://s26.postimg.org/e52it8l6h/0517fr2016mich_Eisert_Wis_Ent.jpg

And the strangest part of the Eisert's life? The two brothers in Nebraska owned it and put it on the road!

http://s26.postimg.org/fvljuq2pl/0517fr2012mich_Nebraskaplateon_Eisert.jpg

[Ray Bell]

That Motor Sport story could do with a lot of cleaning up...

Niel Allen's name is constantly mispelled, the car never won the Hordern Trophy (which was for Racing Cars) but the RAC Trophy. It was never intended to do Can-Am and Can-Am rules are very different to those applying in Australia.

For the record, from memory, Niel was about 5' 6". Age has cut him down further as he declines into dementia, so unfortunate. A really nice guy who gave so much to Australian racing. Even when he bowed out, as the fluctuations of his business forced him to do a couple of times, he made sure he sold his cars off at a price which would help others get a good start with them.

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
I remember when I first worked at Trojan Works in October 1972 that there was an inverted McLaren M10B tub under covers in the workshop and one person said that was an ex Niel Allen tub that had been returned for repairs. Another said no it was one that Warwick Brown had used for the 1972 Tasman and 1972 Australian races. The sign written name had been removed but the unique # 10 style and BP sticker helped me while searching that it was the car driven by Warwick Brown but it had originally started as a spare tub for Niel Allen so I guess the Trojan people were both correct. Race car history did not mean much to me back then and I forgot about until I started out on TRS a few years ago.
I certainly appreciate all of you who put the facts straight as the memory does get a bit faded over the years.
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Inside Trojan workshop. October 1972. Note inverted M10B tub with # 10 and BP sticker.
(Ken Hyndman photo ) p.s. In the background is where every non factory McLaren tub was produced 1965 until late 1972. Formula Two, Formula 5000 and Can Am.

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The same car as driven by Warwick Brown in 1972 Tasman Series.

This M10B had quite a complex history as per this Oldracingcars.com summary. (I did get to touch the dark blue sides in 1972 !)
McLaren*M10B
400-19

"
Spare chassis supplied to Neil Allen. According to Trojan records, it was numbered 400-19 and delivered 28 Jul 1970. The car does not appear to have had a chassis plate and is believed to have shared the number '400-02'. Built up as complete car by Allen and Peter Malloy and, after Allen's retirement, advertised 31 Mar to 7 May 1971 - Allan Hamilton: Australian Gold Star 1971 - Pat Burke Racing for Warwick Brown Tasman 1972. Also March, April, May, Aug, Oct, Nov, Dec 1972 (Brown gets T300 Jan 1973); Trojan Racing for Bob Muir Tasman 1973; Team Target for Warwick Brown (Aus) Gold Star from Oct 1973. Suspension and other parts used for Bryan Thomson 's VW Sports Sedan which debuted at Calder in January 1974. The M10B tub was later rebuilt into a complete car and went via Peter Bick, Paul Trevethan and George Parlby to Llynden Riethmuller.
Note that the Formula 1 Register books record 400-19 as being the replacement M10B used by Keith Holland 1971-72 (from R3 Brands onwards, replacing car crashed at R1 Mallory). See 400-06(B) above.
After Riethmuller's death in July 2009, both this car and 400-02 were acquired from Riethmuller's family by Alan Hamilton in May 2011. However, one of the cars, presumably 400-19, was described as "an unpainted tub with enough bits to complete the car less a transmission".
When Alan Hamilton's two M10Bs were restored, one was dark green with an orange nose and the other was red with a green nose. Alfredo Costanzo raced the green M10B 400-19 at the Phillip Island Classic in March 2013, at Historic Sandown in November 2013, at the Phillip Island Classic in March 2015, and at Phillip Island Classic in March 2016. By 2016, it was owned by Giuseppe 'Joe' Ricciardo.
Driven by: Alan Hamilton, Warwick Brown and Bob Muir. First race: Lakeside (AGS R1), 6*Jun*1971. Total of 19 recorded races. "

(Ken Hyndman)

[Ray Bell]

And it looked fantastic coming out of Paddock Bend at the Farm onto the Pit Straight, tail out slightly, nose up, Warwick enjoying himself at the end of a test session overseen by Peter Molloy...

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
Would not the car be coming out of Leger Corner onto the Pit Straight or do I have the wrong direction ?

My view of turn one in May 1970.
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(KH photo. )

[khyndart in CA]

Some photos of the McLaren M 10 B (400-19 ) in action.

In 1971 with Alan Hamilton driving. (Looks like a fun car to drive.)
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Primotipo.com quote;
Alan Hamilton cornering his McLaren 911 style at Warwick Farm 1971, date unknown. Car is chassis ‘400-19’, Niel Allen’s spare built up by Peter Molloy and sold, together with his race chassis ‘400-02’ to Alan Hamilton and Keven Bartlett respectively. Full monocoque aluminium chassis, 500bhp fuel injected 5 litre Chev engine, Hewland DG300 gearbox…much more powerful than a Porsche 906! (unattributed)


1972 at Surfers being driven by Warwick Brown as described by Ray with the nose up.
This is the chassis tub that was at Trojan. Oct. 1972. (Not sure whether it was damaged or being updated for the 1973 season.)
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(Ken H)

[Terry S]

Ray,
Would not the car be coming out of Leger Corner onto the Pit Straight or do I have the wrong direction ?

My view of turn one in May 1970.
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(KH photo. )

Yes Ken you are correct, it is Leger Corner into Pit Straight.

Alas poor Ray's memory must be fading him; and he is our resident expert on the Farm.

His memory is seemingly as bad as his eyesight, in post 166 mistaking the number 30 for 10.

[John McKechnie]

Terry S- talking of racing, i liked your recent comment on ten tenths-
Kiwi Domination in VASC- Supercars.
"Of the 9 championship races to date in 2017, Kiwis have won 8, and Aussies only 1."

[GD66]

He must have filed that after the Saturday of the Winton round, it's actually 9/10 : SVG 4, Scotty Mac 3, FabCo 2.
And Mostert won on the Sunday at the Island for the sole Aussie win. Been a great series so far, and not just for the skewed results.

[Terry S]

He must have filed that after the Saturday of the Winton round, it's actually 9/10 : SVG 4, Scotty Mac 3, FabCo 2.
And Mostert won on the Sunday at the Island for the sole Aussie win. Been a great series so far, and not just for the skewed results.

NO not correct

Race 3 the Saturday race at Symmons was abandoned after the crash and not counted.

So although Sundays Winton race was Round 10, it was actually only the 9th race of year.

Don't worry Greg Rust on Inside Supercars also fell into that trap. Apologies accepted

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by khyndart in CA
Some photos of the McLaren M 10 B (400-19 ) in action.

In 1971 with Alan Hamilton driving. (Looks like a fun car to drive.)

http://s26.postimg.org/45coagg8p/0517fr_KHRShamiltoncausewayslide.jpg

Primotipo.com quote;
Alan Hamilton cornering his McLaren 911 style at Warwick Farm 1971, date unknown. Car is chassis ‘400-19’, Niel Allen’s spare built up by Peter Molloy and sold, together with his race chassis ‘400-02’ to Alan Hamilton and Keven Bartlett respectively. Full monocoque aluminium chassis, 500bhp fuel injected 5 litre Chev engine, Hewland DG300 gearbox…much more powerful than a Porsche 906! (unattributed)(Ken H)

That is one cool photo...

I don't know if Hamilton got out of this or spun, but if he overcame the rear wheels being out in the marbles like that it must have been his vast experience with Porsches that got him there!

The date was 20th November, 1971. It was the only meeting he ran that car at the Farm, the AGP meeting. There's too many people in the background for it to be Friday's untimed practice and it's not during the race. It's not mentioned in the RCN report at all, so it is possible he caught it.

The other suggestion is that he was warming his tyres for the session (Saturday afternoon) in which he got the fastest lap he ever did of the circuit - 1:26.3. Good for sixth on the grid, he finished the race in third.


Originally posted by Terry S
.....Alas poor Ray's memory must be fading him; and he is our resident expert on the Farm.....

My memory's not fading me at all, Terry. And I already corrected myself about the number 30.

This is the way it works...

Peter Molloy, spent a fair bit of time with his drivers at the Warwick Farm Short circuit. With both Niel Allen and Warwick Brown with the M10Bs.

Peter felt that, after driving round there all those laps, they had a problem. "It's all right handers," he says, and it was except for the corner off the Causeway. So at the end of the day (as I mentioned in the post I made) he sent them around for a few laps in the opposite direction, "to get some left handers and settle their brains a bit."

"It was different," he continued, "because the corners tended to tighten in the other direction, so they'd have to brake early and then get the power on early."

So that's what I saw one day when I called in and saw them there. Warwick, as I said, was coming out of Paddock with the power hard on, and with the waterpipes erected like a fence for watering the horse track just a foot or two off to the right of the circuit.

The view Ken posted looking back towards the grandstands is just about what Niel and Warwick would have been seeing as they prepared for their exit. Minus the cars and people on the left, of course, and minus the brake markers and flaggies, but with a waterpipe fence close to the edge on the right of the exit. His photo is taken while crossing the track to enter the pit area - on foot or in a car, Ken? - and you can see various tracks on the circuit where cars have driven on and off on their way in or out.

Anyway, I posted what I did because I reckon that was the most exciting scene I ever saw with Warwick in that car.

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
That excellent description certainly took care of any questions I had.
I was walking across the track at the first turn and took the photo as I was thinking of all the famous drivers
who had driven through that corner.

(Ken H)

[Terry S]

And it looked fantastic coming out of Paddock Bend at the Farm onto the Pit Straight, tail out slightly, nose up, Warwick enjoying himself at the end of a test session overseen by Peter Molloy...

Simply adding that he was going in the reverse direction to normal would have avoided later confusion

[Ray Bell]

Accepting that I meant what I said would have too...

And it's true, Ken, that being on that hallowed bit of bitumen gave you a special feeling.

[Terry S]

Accepting that I meant what I said would have too...


As Pauline Hanson would say: "Please explain"

[khyndart in CA]

May 1970.
Ok gentlemen, what part of Warwick Farm is this scene ?
Is it the straight that went to Leger Corner ?
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Also is this Pete Geoghegan in this photo at Warwick Farm with the tie on as Leo is sorting out gear ratios on his Lotus ?
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(Ken Hyndman photos )

[Ray Bell]

The circuit pic hasn't come up...

But I will say that I pondered over whether that was Pete or not when you posted it earlier. It looks like him, but I wouldn't be sure. And not to pick, but would Leo be sorting gear ratios with the nose of the car in the air?

[khyndart in CA]

Ray, that is a fair remark regarding Leo. I somehow remember a container of gear ratios on the ground but it certainly is the front in the air and with the wheels on perhaps they are checking the suspension ?
Hey I am open to any inputs.

I hope the Farm photo comes through this time.

(Ken)

[Ray Bell]

That pic is taken behind the spectator mound in the esses...

The crowd is leaning on the horse rail more or less parallel to the straight that comes from the esses to the Northern Crossing.

I'll see if I can conjure up a map showing that.

[khyndart in CA]

When I see that I am repeating my photos, that I am using the scanner at work too much, I do not have a project or vehicle to write about plus I am not going to any historic events this year so I think it is time for me to step back and enjoy everyone's inputs and not clutter up TRS with my ramblings. Even though I may not get to ever meet but a few of you it has been a most enjoyable experience for me at this site. You are a good bunch and thanks for putting up with me and my "stuff" from the US.
Take care,
Ken

[chaindrive]

Keep it coming!

[Terry S]

Yes Ken, PLEASE keep them coming

Don't be put off by Ray, we all have to suffer him.

Photos are great and your descriptions excellent

Much better than Ray Green and Nigel Watts who post interminable photos but no descriptions.

So please keep going

Terry

[GD66]

It's just never, ever over for you, is it ?

A stark reminder why I've had you on block for so long.

[Allan]

We enjoy having you and your input Ken. Keep up the good work.
Allan

[khyndart in CA]

It's just never, ever over for you, is it ?

A stark reminder why I've had you on block for so long.

I have to admit to being disappointed GD66 when I read this as I did not know I had this effect on you or was this possibly meant for a certain other person ?

Terry S, please do not ever compare my old photos to the brilliant work of Ray and Nigel as they put their necks on the line to take action shots that should be in publications and they share them freely (up to now !) with all of us on TRS.

Ray Bell is an honest bloke and as they say getting something by him would have as much chance as sneaking a sunrise past a rooster !

Who knows, after a good sleep and showing my boss what this site is all about, I might still be hanging about here,but only if the "nitpicking" stops. OK ?


( Ken H)

[khyndart in CA]

I first saw this Cooper T 62 when Bruce drove it at the first NZGP at Pukekohe in Jan. 1963.
The car has had a very unusual history which is covered in this primotipo.com thread in which Ray Bell has also contributed.

https://primotipo.com/2016/05/20/bruce-lex-and-rockys-cooper-t62-climax/

I saw the car at the Laguna Seca Historics in 2011 and did not realize the complete story until I read this today. Wow !
Imagine what this Tommy Atkins High Efficiency Motors ID plate has witnessed over the years !
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(Ken Hyndman photos )

[GD66]

I have to admit to being disappointed GD66 when I read this as I did not know I had this effect on you or was this possibly meant for a certain other person ?




Ha ! No mate, love your stuff and am envious of your full and varied life in motorsport, but that certain other person's constant sniping grinds my gears, so rather than indulge in tit-for-tat I have had him blocked for a long time and found my life improved dramatically : foolishly I peeked in only to find the high-handed and unrequired dispensation of judgment continues.

If you are feeling a tad jaded, just have a couple of days off and you'll be back with a vengeance. I don't post here much but I drop in for a perve each and every day, and am constantly appreciative of the value of the historic content that is shared by so many, and you're up the top end of the list, so please....post away, son !

Just don't like sniping.

[Ray Bell]

Yes, a sad career that car had after Bruce's time with it...

Tommy Atkin's daughter, Ursula, used to contribute to the Nostalgia Forum as 'UAtkins', anyone interested should go through her posts there.

[Ray Bell]

Ken, here's the answer to your photo above...

http://s12.postimg.org/sv5uxv2wd/0617fr860_AMSwarwickfarmproposedoverview.jpg

This is from a few months before Warwick Farm opened and was probably 'drawn' some time before that and isn't quite correct. For instance, the exit from Creek Corner is not shown as parallel to the straight, which it definitely was, while the second left-hander of the esses isn't as tight as it finished up being. Like I said, that next section ran more or less parallel to the horse track 'chute'.

I was hoping to find a UBD street directory from the sixties or seventies to get a map showing this but it seems that the oldest I have is 1989. If anyone has one, probably as late as 1975, it should show both the horse track and the circuit. It would be on map 88.

Subsequent to the closure of the circuit the AJC have extended that 'chute' right out to cross Hume Straight.

Here is a picture posted by 'Wirra' on the Nostalgia Forum, obviously from a more recent time:

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad228/wirra/Warwick%20Farm%20labels_zpsz3rxi33i.jpg

There is also a comment from David Shaw relating to it saying that this 'chute' extension gave the horse racers a couple of extra options for race lengths, which were apparently quite important to them.

[Terry S]

I went to the "Farm" for the first time in May 1970

The Neil Allen Elfin ME 5 Chevrolet was the star of the day and won the main race.
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( Oldrace photos from Imgrum.org. )



(Ken Hyndman )

I was at that May 1970 meeting and thought the ME5 was the prettiest and most beautiful race car I had ever seen.
And still believe it is amongst the all time best looking cars.

That metallic blue colour was wonderful, and Allen even co-ordinated the colour of his helmet.

As this photo shows it looked to me like a stealth fighter.

Then in the interests of progress it got bastardised. Such a SIN.

See this TNF tread post #13 to see comparison of before and after.

http://forums.autosport.com/topic/132930-elfin-me5/?hl=+elfin +me5

Which would you prefer? I think it is pretty obvious.

In my opinion the current look is simply hideous

I know it is legal, as that TNF thread covers, but surely as an owner you would want it in its best and most appealing format.

[khyndart in CA]

Terry,
Thanks for your message.
I must have been standing right beside this movie maker in May 1970 at Warwick Farm.

https://youtu.be/jjgNQy6YIRk

(Ken H)

[Ray Bell]

Sports Car No 7... the Lolita Mk 2?

Nice to see Niel Allen in action there, the late Bob Martin in the red Clubman, the Hustler SC1, the beautiful red/orange Elfin 300, No 13, I don't think it's the 350. And I think it's Ray Hanger in the blue Nota Sportsman (Clubman) with the stripe around the nose. Was the Chevron B8 then in Ray Strong's hands?

We all know the opening trio, of course, Pete Geoghegan in the Mustang, Norm Beechey in the Monaro, Jim McKeown in the Porsche. Later we see Sports Sedans with Chris Strode, perhaps, at the forefront and Wayne Rogerson next in the Falcon ahead of John Leffler's Mini. Some of those other tin-tops will take some identifying.

[khyndart in CA]

Thanks Ray for identifying so many of those in this video.

Ken

[Ray Bell]

No problem...

I'm told the pink Mini is Barry Grainger. Or Granger?

[Dale Harvey]

Chris Strode is correct.
Dale.

[Ray Bell]

Yes, the colour is a giveaway...

And I'm assured he was being lapped.

[Ray Bell]

Phil Moore is in the Elfin 300, who finished the race in third, two laps down over 23 laps...

The Chevron is Tony Oxley, he failed to place after a spin, Bob Martin was to finish sixth. I'm not sure now about the Nota Sportsman, it may well be Peter Wilson.

And I learn from the race report that Peter Wherrett was in Leffler's Mini in one race.

The really hard cars to pick are the last bunch, that's a GTR Torana there but I'm sure it's not a Series Production event. This is prior to the release of the XU1s.

[khyndart in CA]

OK Terry and Ray,
Here are some of my blurred photos of my day at the Warwick Farm Esses corners. May 1970.
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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

The best cars of the day.
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(KH )

[Terry S]

Ken, that crowd shot in the Essex had me looking closely as that is where we used to gather.

We had worked out it was best spot on the track as you could basically see the cars all the way down the straight to Creek corner as well as the Essex.

Oh such memories.

[khyndart in CA]

Terry,
I think I had had too much Australian ale that day and did not want to post this but hey,why not, you may make out something in this image.
Remember I have dragged these pix from Oz to NZ to England and then to the US. Their resting place is here on TRS !
Cheers,
Ken. (Memories indeed )
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[Dale Harvey]

The really hard cars to pick are the last bunch, that's a GTR Torana there but I'm sure it's not a Series Production event. This is prior to the release of the XU1s.[/QUOTE]

I think that Torana is Bill Norman. So most probably supercharged and running as a sports sedan.
Dale.

[John McKechnie]

Ken- looking at some jackets there, it must have been a bit cold

[khyndart in CA]

John,
May in Sydney seemed a whole lot better than the frost and fog of the Waikato !

[Terry S]

Ken- looking at some jackets there, it must have been a bit cold

That's what he had "too much Australian ale" for......

[Terry S]

Terry,
Thanks for your message.
I must have been standing right beside this movie maker in May 1970 at Warwick Farm.

https://youtu.be/jjgNQy6YIRk

(Ken H)

To summarise the cars;

First three are Improved Production Touring, and as Ray says Geoghegan, Beechey and McKeown

Then the sports cars. It was the RAC Trophy Race which was the 2nd round of Aust Sports Car Champ.
#15 is Phil Moore in Elfin 300. It had Ford T/c of only 1.5L hence so far behind the V8's
#2 is Niel Allen in the glorious Elfin ME5
#17 (not #7 Ray) is venerable Bo Holden in Lolita Mk2 BMC.
#8 is Tony Loxley in Chevron B8 BMW
#35 is Ray Hanger in blue Nota Clubman
#25 is Bob Martin in the red Hustler SC1 Ford

Then the sports sedans , or as described in the programme the "Closed Sports Sedan Car Race". So quaint and I wonder what an OPEN Sports Sedan would be.
#48 is Chris Strode in "yellow" Holden FE. Now drives a 1963 Galaxie in Historics.
#35 is Wayne Rogerson in Falcon V8. Now drives a Mazda R2 in Historics
#59 is the late Peter Wherrett in John Leffler's Mini
#57 is Ron Grainger in a Mini (Not Barry, Ray)
#39 is Bill Norman in a supercharged Torana GTR

Some great views and memories

[Ray Bell]

So much easier when you have the programme...

At that time the 'Sports Sedans' category had still not been formalised by the CAMS. The common heading under which these cars were grouped was 'Sports Racing - closed, by invitation.'

It was open to cars complying with Sports Car regulations, therefore they had to have headlights, tail lights, mudguards etc. But the 'invitation' was only to cars so complying which were built from sedan cars. This was a direct result of the Appendix J regulations for Touring Car racing being replaced by the 'Improved Production' category.

So many cars existed, in particular early Holdens, which no longer complied... or could be made competitive. For instance, the rules allowed no more than a very minor overbore of the cylinders - 0.030" IIRC - while many of these cars had engines which were bored out way beyond that. But once the movement started it became more of an 'open slather' category and some wild cars resulted.

Hence race headings varied from place to place.

[khyndart in CA]

Ray and Terry,
You both have put in such interesting information and memories of this time in 1970. Thank you.
I found this short clip of the June 1970 meeting at Oran Park that was mentioned earlier in this thread.
Your identification skills are required.
That corner onto the front straight was a great place to watch the 3 wheeled cornering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoFKE-2pV3U


(KH)

[John McKechnie]

Camaro - would be Terry Allen ?

[Ray Bell]

Patricia Peck's Camaro, Foley, McKeown and possibly Hamilton in Porsches.

[Terry S]

Patricia Peck's Camaro, Foley, McKeown and possibly Hamilton in Porsches.

Ray I have never heard of Pat Peck being Patricia, she was always just Pat.

It wasn't Hamilton in the Porsche, it was Bill Brown

[Terry S]

Ray and Terry,
You both have put in such interesting information and memories of this time in 1970. Thank you.
I found this short clip of the June 1970 meeting at Oran Park that was mentioned earlier in this thread.
Your identification skills are required.
That corner onto the front straight was a great place to watch the 3 wheeled cornering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoFKE-2pV3U


(KH)

Just back from the Long Weekend and catching up.

Firstly the meeting was not on 26 June but 28 June. 26 June was a Friday.

In opening scenes it is Lakis Manticas in # 10 Mini chasing Chris Brauer in the red ex Bob Jane Mustang.

The Porsches are #8 Brian Foley, #3 Jim McKeown, and #4 Bill Brown in the orangey red Scuderia Veloce car.

#79 is Ross Bond in the ex Peter Brock Austin A30 Holden

Pat Peck is in the Camaro

[rf84]

Hi Ken Just found this thread 7 years later!!!!! whilst doing some research. You are correct-one of the two BT23s was owned by Bobby Rahal though I think it may have since changed hands. It is a rather long story. Baron Robertson bought the BT23 off Roly but The Baron had trouble getting to grips with the car and he asked Roly to drive it at Baypark and offer some advice. Roly crashed it at the Sweeper and damaged it badly. Baron imported a brand new chassis from the UK and transferred the FVC and other salvageable parts to the new chassis. The damaged car was rebuilt as a Formula Ford and driven by Phil Harris. It passed through a few hands in NZ before being acquired by Martyn Smith in the UK who restored it to it's original specs. Meantime Phil Harris had moved to the US as a mechanic firstly with Pat Burke Racing and then VDS. He became friends with Bobby Rahal who turned up at Phil's shop one day with his latest acquisition. Turns out it was Phil's old Formula Ford! Whatever happened to the other BT23 that Baron raced is a big mystery.

[Roger Dowding]

I had the wonderful experience of growing up in the Morrinsville area at Kiwitahi at a time when so many had connections to motor racing.e.g. Spencer (Spinner ) Black went to Kiwitahi school with my sister, Bryan Innes's family brought property from my grandfather, Dennis Marwood married the sister of a neighboring farmer, a relative owned the Motordrome Service Station in Te Rapa, Terry Marshall was at Morrinsville College when I was there, John Paton (Paton & Black ) engines was a friend, Ross Greenville had a really sweet neice etc. etc. ( We were like a big family )
Anyway I took some photos that are not great quality but I wanted to share of that time...

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Spinner Black's Lexington Team Camaro being prepared at the Baypark track at Mount Maunganui. NZ.
December 1968.

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Not every town had a trailer with a Camaro on it sitting in the street ! ( Morrinsville 1969 )
note the high quality of trailer with such a precious load !

( Ken Hyndman)

Just rediscovered this thread and have come across a couple of " Baypark " images from the first [ and postponed meeting ].
Originally scheduled for November 1967, it happened a couple of weeks later in December.

The Black Park Marina V8 - a Nigel Watts photo.

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Will add the other photos to the next post

[Roger Dowding]

Original List of Entrants from Milan Fistonic vast archives - there were more cars at the actual event as was delayed by wet weather [ seem familiar in 2023 ].
18th November 1967.

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The Saloons - on the grid ..
3rd December 1967

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Sports car on a curve - Elfin in the lead.
Andy Buchanan in the Elfin leads John(ny) Riley and Ross West - notes from J L Lawton.

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John Larry Lawton photos.

[Roger Dowding]

Car related, but not to the subject of this thread, but to its creator !.

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and where you can these ....

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Cheers Ken H,

and a Healey for good measure !!.

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Still have to make it.

[Roger Dowding]

But wait - there's more - one more for Ken H ..

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[Roger Dowding]

Baypark. December 1968.
Great Australian drivers ; Norm Beechy and Leo Geoghegan discussing how to beat the Kiwis.

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Norm Beechy's Chevy Nova in the paddock area.
I think that is Australian Brian Foley's 1293 Mini Cooper next to it.
(Could that be verified please. I know it was out here for the NZGP meet at Pukekohe a week later. )

(Ken Hyndman )

The Brian Foley Mini at Pukekohe with a different Race Number but the stripe seem correct, not sure about the sponsors.

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Only taken 9 years to comment !!

[Roger Dowding]

Photos from Bay of Plenty Photo News;
A General Motors collection - Australia and United Kingdom.

On the Track and in the pits .

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Jim Palmer about to cross the finish line

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The Winner - Jim Palmer in the Holden Monaro - receives his prize and Trophy

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Thought these were best to join Ken H's thread as already has lots of other Baypark photos.

[Milan Fistonic]

1970 Glenvale 100 - entry list.

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