Images From My Past - Nigel Watts Collection

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[nigel watts]

Promised the builder of this car to post an image of the car on the track, so here it is....

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[nigel watts]

Digital photography is a wonderful invention BUT when you get home and download the images you shot that day and find you've got about a thousand files to look through and process, it does makes you wonder!!
So, I'll drip feed them as and when they come off my [slow] production line!!

[ERC]

Good stuff as always Nigel.

Yup, I was only there for Saturday practice and still spent most of Saturday afternoon and evening deleting and cropping - and still have to file them by make and add to the library. Only posted a few, generally of cars we don't see too often at HD.

[nigel watts]

Yes Dale, you do have room in your garage and it would look good parked next to your Mustang and it's a perfect colour match for your driving clobber too

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[Steve Holmes]

Yes Dale, you do have room in your garage and it would look good parked next to your Mustang and it's a perfect colour match for your driving clobber too

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I doubt he'd fit without cutting a hole in the roof for his head to stick out.

[John H]

I just love this site I check in every day. So thanks to the owner of TRS. What an awesome day I had last Friday. I’m coming up 72 and after 3 years of getting my car going with advice from good people eg George Sheweiry (who freely passes on his hard earned knowledge) I was out there.

I took my car out first run in the wet at Hampton Downs slipping and sliding. Just an awesome day! I’m still buzzing.

The point of me saying this is I have two funerals this week, one a good friend of mine. Just want to encourage others to have a go and take inspiration from the likes great Kenny Smith and get out and have a go.
OK now I want one of those Nascar motors. :)

[Jac Mac]

I doubt he'd fit without cutting a hole in the roof for his head to stick out.

They have the 'Gurney Bump' option for just that reason, actually once you get in one its amazing how much headroom there is, bigger problem area is the stomach clearance factor, Dale doesnt appear to have that issue... yet.

[Kiwiboss]

They have the 'Gurney Bump' option for just that reason, actually once you get in one its amazing how much headroom there is, bigger problem area is the stomach clearance factor, Dale doesnt appear to have that issue... yet.

Can always cut my head off LOL don't worry Jac Mac the stomach is getting there :(

Sure was a great event on the weekend and thanks for the great pictures Nigel Watts. I saw you for a moment, turned around and you were gone, buggar.

[khyndart in CA]

Dale,
Perhaps we should get this steering wheel installed then I could at least sit in it like Jac Mac.
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Wonderful photos Nigel.
I need to get you into Laguna Seca in August.
p.s. I am not sure I paid my last Dr. visit with your dad so perhaps I owe you some accommodation !

(Ken H)

[Rod Grimwood]

I am into the shower and then heading south to be at Hampton Thursday morning to do something i have not done for a very long time. The gentleman who owns this nice Falcon has talked me into seeing if i can fit in it, and if that is all good then take it for some fun laps, i feel very privaliged to be doing this, and after all this time, a little excited also.
John has done an amazing job getting all the cars and owners together again, good crew and neat cars and i am looking forward to the chance to meet and have fun with them all again.

PS I WILL fit in to it. I have a L plate for back window.

[Dale Harvey]

The second shot in post 525 #57 is the Thompson Ford owned and driven by a friend of mine, Barry Bates, from Newcastle NSW. It is a copy of a Lola.
Dale.

[nigel watts]

Thanks for your kind comments Ken.

Laguna Seca is a very tempting thought - I'm trying to think up ways that I can convince my missus that it's imperative that I attend!!!

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Love em or hate em, the E30's provide some very close racing.

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[ERC]

Thanks Dale. I posted a pic on my pics thread and at first sight, I thought it (Thompson Special) was a NZ Beattie/Redline until I saw the badge and the programme.

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[Grant Sprague]

Thank you Nigel , these are beaut photos with great clarity....... it was cool to meet you ... Grant

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Thank you Nigel , these are beaut photos with great clarity....... it was cool to meet you ... Grant

Thanks Grant,
it was great to meet you too and I look forward to seeing your car on the track again.
Cheers
Nigel

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Any details of the little silver single seater in #561?

[Steve Holmes]

Stunning images Nigel, thanks as always for posting.

[nigel watts]

Any details of the little silver single seater in #561?

It's listed as "1961 Dreossi Special" with capacity of 1011cc. I think it may have originated in Canada

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[Steve Holmes]

Any details of the little silver single seater in #561?

I wondered that myself. Looks a bit like a belly tank racer. But these were usually dry lakes and Bonneville cars.

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[rf84]

Thanks Nigel (and Garry Simkin who emailed me). There is quite a lot of info on the ' Net if one Googles Dreossi Special. You are quite right Steve-it has an aircraft fuel tank for the monocoque chassis.

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Is this the FIA 289 replica that John Olsen built. back in.....98?

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Is this the FIA 289 replica that John Olsen built. back in.....98?

Not sure but the number plate would suggest that it is.

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Nigel, it is very disappointing that you don't give names of cars, particularly of the front engined Formula Junior cars.

I would love to know what some of these are

You seem to have fallen into ERC's annoying habit.

Half the fun of looking at the photos is knowing what car they are.

Should be easy to fix for the benefit and enjoyment of viewers.

[ERC]

Terry, these are all regular FJ cars except maybe Duncan's Alexis (the Orange car). If you can't recognise a Cooper or a Stanguellini by now, then you obviously aren't really that interested!

You obviously have no idea how much time and effort goes into posting photographs on here and if you are that stuck, why not get a race programme or download a meeting entry list? You are the only one of all the posters on here who has ever brought this up and I for one really appreciate all of Nigel's photographs as he is a genuine photographer who understands not only how to drive the camera, which is obviously far better than mine, but also has a great 'eye' for what constitutes a picture rather than a mere snapshot.

Once again, the clue is in the thread "Images".

Type "Formula Junior" in Google and check out the images. There are 1000's of them and many, many websites with well labelled pictures.

Keep up the great work Nigel.

[John McKechnie]

Nigel- fantastic pix of the Historic Sports Sedans, we were talking in the weekend about how neat yours were. Keep up the great work

[ERC]

Not sure but the number plate would suggest that it is.
Yes. Olsen Cobra. This was the first chassis built by John Olsen, but the last to be completed.

Rogan, who still owns and drives the car, commissioned the body, which was built by Ivan Cranch.

[RogerH]

Nigel, it is very disappointing that you don't give names of cars, particularly of the front engined Formula Junior cars.

I would love to know what some of these are

You seem to have fallen into ERC's annoying habit.




Half the fun of looking at the photos is knowing what car they are.

Should be easy to fix for the benefit and enjoyment of viewers.

Gemini Mk2
Cooper T76 F3
Alexis Mk1
Cooper T76 F3
Volpini
Stanguellini

[Terry S]

Gemini Mk2
Cooper T76 F3
Alexis Mk1
Cooper T76 F3
Volpini
Stanguellini

So nice to have a positive and informative response.

[nigel watts]

Thank you Ray & John
My hobby/passion is photography and I intend to keep on posting my images here as long as you guys are interested.
Sorry to disappoint you Terry S, and I'm afraid I'm going to continue to disappoint you.

[Terry S]

Thank you Ray & John
My hobby/passion is photography and I intend to keep on posting my images here as long as you guys are interested.
Sorry to disappoint you Terry S, and I'm afraid I'm going to continue to disappoint you.

I guess I must have been unreasonable

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I guess I must have been unreasonable

That's for you to decide Terry.
I can tell you that I spend a huge amount of time and money firstly taking the photographs and then sorting, processing and posting the images to TRS. Now you expect me to research and post what those cars are for your benefit and enjoyment. Sorry but it ain't gonna happen.

[Steve Holmes]

I'm really enjoying these photos Nigel! Thanks so much for posting them. The Formula Junior pics in particular are fantastic. I have a love affair with these cars. They're currently in NZ as part of their Diamond Jubilee World Tour. Check out the website with all the countries, tracks and dates here: http://formulajunior.com/event/fj-diamond-jubilee-world-tour-2016-2018/

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[John McKechnie]

This is so neat, definitely relive the action just by looking at these.
Great show put up by the HMC and HSc drivers- very entertaining and so close racing.
Your camera and skills never cease to amaze me Nigel.
As an example,- you can actually see the looks on the face on Pete Stevenson and Howard Wood.
Long live open face helmets for us viewers.

[nigel watts]

Thanks John. Now if only we could recreate the sound!!

[Grant Sprague]

Have to agree with John .......and some

[Terry S]

That's for you to decide Terry.
I can tell you that I spend a huge amount of time and money firstly taking the photographs and then sorting, processing and posting the images to TRS. Now you expect me to research and post what those cars are for your benefit and enjoyment. Sorry but it ain't gonna happen.

Firstly I am NOT talking about the saloon car photos. I can recognise a Mustang even with body alterations and terrible signage.

I am merely referring to the single seaters at the very recent meeting in posts 583 to 592, and 597 to 602.
From a programme it should be very easy to note the name of the car.

You used to do it. See posts 8& 9. Why change?

Despite the poor attempt at sarcasm from ERC, I can identify the difference between a Cooper and a Stanguellinni.

HOWEVER I can not identify the difference between an Alexis, a Volpini and a Stanguellinni. Can you?

One of the aims of this forum is to provide accurate information on racing history. Putting up a lot of pretty pictures does not do that.

[John McKechnie]

Thanks John. Now if only we could recreate the sound!!

We get to do it again, with sound at Legends of Speed in March...yay !!!!!!!

[John H]

Stunning photos Nigel. Thanks so much. Very well done.. Chrs

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[Grant Sprague]

Keep them Rolling Nigel, yr an artist

[Alan Hyndman]

Firstly I am NOT talking about the saloon car photos. I can recognise a Mustang even with body alterations and terrible signage.

I am merely referring to the single seaters at the very recent meeting in posts 583 to 592, and 597 to 602.
From a programme it should be very easy to note the name of the car.

You used to do it. See posts 8& 9. Why change?

Despite the poor attempt at sarcasm from ERC, I can identify the difference between a Cooper and a Stanguellinni.

HOWEVER I can not identify the difference between an Alexis, a Volpini and a Stanguellinni. Can you?

One of the aims of this forum is to provide accurate information on racing history. Putting up a lot of pretty pictures does not do that.


A point that may be worth noting is that the programme won't help when cars aren't listed (maybe due to being unable to enter in a timely manner or the organisers accepting then declining then accepting their entry) or their competition numbers are changed after documentation. Three of us in the Libre grid all appear to have had our entries accepted with the competition number 8 and by the look of it, four others were all number 1 at the start of the weekend. I was in the programme as number 18 but for some reason was asked to run as 181... I can only assume other grids were not so afflicted?

[Michael Clark]

With or without captions - super stuff Nigel and Ray...love your work

[ERC]

Firstly I am NOT talking about the saloon car photos. I can recognise a Mustang even with body alterations and terrible signage.

I am merely referring to the single seaters at the very recent meeting in posts 583 to 592, and 597 to 602.
From a programme it should be very easy to note the name of the car.

Despite the poor attempt at sarcasm from ERC, I can identify the difference between a Cooper and a Stanguellinni.

HOWEVER I can not identify the difference between an Alexis, a Volpini and a Stanguellinni. Can you?

One of the aims of this forum is to provide accurate information on racing history. Putting up a lot of pretty pictures does not do that.
The aim of this forum is as a platform for whatever people want to put into it - or get out of it. Nigel puts a lot into it and his forte is photographs. Others are better at words, comments or filling in historical gaps. Many more are silent observers. If you can identify the difference between a Cooper and a Stanguellini why do you need Nigel to label a Cooper, that quite plainly, has the word Cooper on the nose?

Yes, I may have been a little sarcastic, if you want to look at it that way, but you can recognise a Mustang or a Camaro. Others can recognize Americana, sports and GTs, some are brilliant at the NZ history, but they are all contributing for everyone's mutual benefit, but like Nigel, I am running a thread that is basically images, so I don't feel the need to spend more time than I have to.

If Nigel and myself and others just said 'stuff, it we won't bother', then you wouldn't even be able to see the 'pretty pictures'.

The Interweb is a marvelous resource, but I already spend a fair bit of time researching, particularly some of the stuff that is undated and there are huge gaps, that thankfully, some people are working very hard to fill. Especially with stuff from the pre digital age.

Just for the record Terry, "From a programme, it should be very easy to note the name of the car".

Not so. You obviously weren't there, obviously have no idea of the many omissions from the programme, and if you are frustrated as you weren't there, just think how frustrating it is when you take a heap of photographs (maybe 1,000+) and it is only when you get home, that you find out that the ones you can't readily identify, aren't even in the programme!

My weakness is single seaters, especially Formula Fords, Atlantics, Pacifics and any of the other formula. Sure, there are plenty of Juniors we may never have heard of either, but most are going to pop up somewhere, as they are not new cars.

Nigel is posting stuff just a day or two after the event. I am still struggling with filing mine let alone labelling them... Easy to sit back and criticise Terry, simply because you can. Some of us are buried in books, magazines and internet searches and even having to track down race programmes, email clubs, previous owners and contact various websites, just to be able to date and label accurately and believe me, that often leads to dead ends and many wasted hours, just for 1 pic. I have a whole folder of images with missing information and that is growing almost as fast as I scan older images.

Occasionally though, people spot a picture on this site that is useful to them, so they just send a PM to ask for additional info or post a query. How difficult is that? If you can identify 80% of the pics on here and elsewhere, just ask for details of the 20%, but please, don't expect any changes from me either.

I'm with Nigel 100%.

[John McKechnie]

+1
Also at the Ken Smith Festival, program didnt have engine sizes

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[Steve Holmes]

More great pics Nigel! Of the F1 cars, did you have a favorite?

[nigel watts]

More great pics Nigel! Of the F1 cars, did you have a favorite?

Thanks Steve. Yes I think the Lotus was my favourite, but I really liked them all.

[Steve Holmes]

The Lotus colours and shape are hard to beat.

[GD66]

Wow ! Cosworth fever setting in....thanks Nigel !

[nigel watts]

Wow ! Cosworth fever setting in....thanks Nigel !

My ears are still ringing!!!!!

[ERC]

Although a staunch BRM fan, watching Michael Lyons in the Hesketh was a real treat. The JPS Lotus didn't appear to have the original gold, more of a golden yellow. Great pics though as usual.

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[GD66]

I can't pick a dud amongst all those lovely F5000s, but Peter Brennan's impeccable Lola T332 really does it for me. The poor bugger dragged it all the way over to Perth for round 1 only to have it grenade after a lap and a half of the very first practice (sob !) so it's great to see him back out there. Lovely job, mate. :cool:

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Having now watched a couple of race meetings which utilised the international track, I wonder what drivers think of it.

I must admit that I have not walked the long track yet so don't know what photo opportunities may be available but I really miss cars coming through turn 3 on the short track.

[John McKechnie]

Nigel- Graeme Addis told me he really enjoyed the new track, and is looking forward to the next time he can run.
He said that for a brief instant before he hit the brakes into the new second corner he was pulling maximum revs.
Told me the speed by calculation.
Swears next time hes not going to be such a pussy and will brake later..........preferably before he gets to the Dragstrip.
Graham Barnes, John Telford, Rod Grimwood ,Roger Davis all told me - great new challenge, makes you think and a welcome addition.
I am sure if it had been a fine weekend , there would have been more adventure.
Remember seeing a camerman or 2 with pink tops on new corner 4 Sunday morning and afternoon.
Dont think any other position would give you the 3 and 2 wheel visual impact that turn 3 on the old track gives in your pix

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Thanks John,
It was probably a silly question because if I was a driver I'd want a long track - the longer the better.

[ERC]

Agree Nigel. Turn 2/3 is just brilliant.

The other issue with the long track is that towards the end of the meeting, as they were running so late, the races were reduced to just 5 laps. Personally, I'd rather see the cars go past me 8 times and for spectators, all long tracks can be somewhat restrictive and less than spectator friendly.

I haven't been to Highlands yet, but the sheer length of the track and limited spots for taking photographs is putting me off.

A couple of our guys seemed to have trouble learning where to position themselves on the new section, as they were so busy learning the new track, that keeping an eye on the mirrors and faster approaching drivers was a bit of an issue. Several said that although they enjoyed it, it is bumpy in places.

My own feeling is that for a long endurance type race, it probably works OK, but for sprint races?

I'm waiting to see if anyone is going to run a race meeting on the new short track. I fear that photo opportunities there without a pink tabard are going to be even more limited.

[rogered]

6400 rpm at the start finish line is 219kph (136mph) for me anyway

[John McKechnie]

Nigel- not a silly question at all.
The track is 4 km long making 24 km for a 6 lapper.
Graeme said he was totally stuffed- as only a fit man in the prime of his life with a personal trainer torturing him- and enjoyed that feeling.
When you approach the DB , you can see the short part that is not used ...and it looks short.
I found that there were 3 totally different viewing points of the DB from the usual fence.
Near where you shoot your pix , Dennis Running was watching the DB getting the lines, and he was the fastest through there of HSS.
Think Graeme worked his speed to be about 160mph at braking for turn 2.............will amend if he emails me.

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[ERC]

Great shots as always Nigel. Post #705/1, did Howard's BMW get dinged? Looks as though the RHF wheel is off the floor and there is a ding in the door.

[John McKechnie]

The black Camaro went round and round- Steve Elliot and Howard got collected by the swinging rear end.

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[Grant Sprague]

OOppppps our over steering Camaro , he loves going side ways , crowd loves it but not the quickest way around the corners, a bit of misfortune he connecting with an other car , always hard to avoid when yr on the limit , shit does happen no intent thats for sure , all good boys having fun

[Oldfart]

Quote form a very good friend who, on another thread on here received a well deserved award "Shit does not happen, some a$%£hole creates it"!

[Grant Sprague]

For sure Oldfart , I agree.... $$$$$$$$$ and damage leaves a sour taste of s....t that did happen

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[Kiwiboss]

Those are fantastic pics Nigel, any chance I can get them on a disc/stick?

The feedback from both weekends has been the most I've ever had since starting HMC/HSC, are people finally getting what we're about?

Dale M

[ERC]

Steady growth Dale. It was never going to happen overnight. I think I inherited 9 cars in 1996 and we have had over 100 registered every year for the last 10 or 11.

Great pics Nigel, as always.

[Spgeti]

I second Dale's comments re the quality of the photos and that goes for all the guys on the end of the cameras. A great job well done.

This has been the most rewarding couple of weeks for us regarding feedback and interest in HMC/HSC.

Cheers
Bruce D

[kiwi285]

Great photos Nigel and from being on the fence during to 2 Saturday races can say that the crowd were more impressed with the HMC / HSC cars than with Central Muscle. Our cars are all quite evenly matched but some of the Aussie cars seem to have got quite a lot faster which tended to stretch the field out.

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[ERC]

Thanks to Tim at HRC and hours spent on filing, Googling and filling in so many gaps, I think I now have a fairly complete picture of the meeting's entrants!

Number 35 above (post #726) is Tommy Dreelan's F1 March.

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