1976 Australian Sports Sedans

[Steve Holmes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e77wOVQqRXY

In 1972, the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport (CAMS) announced major changes to touring car racing, following a media outbreak slating the high performance vehicles Ford, General Motors-Australia, and Chrysler were building to win the Bathurst endurance race. The Series Production rules allowed for very little in the way of modifications from the standard vehicle, and as such, manufacturers had to build race cars for the road that were made available to anyone who wanted them.

And so, given each manufacturer quickly cancelled plans for their future Bathurst weapons and suddenly became very gun-shy towards motorsport following the media provoked ‘Supercar Scare’, CAMS decided to ditch the Series Production regulations, along with the Improved Production regulations, to which the Australian Touring Car Championship was contested, and introduced Group C, which would compete both for the ATCC and Bathurst. On top of this, they recognized the emerging Sports Sedan category for cheap, but heavily modified, and hugely popular sedans.

The rapid rise of Sports Sedan racing brought about lucrative backing from menswear brand Toby Lee, who put up an impressive A$15,000 purse for a five round series in 1973 (and which they doubled to $30,000 for ’74), held at Sydney’s Oran Park, where Sports Sedan racing first flourished. The rich prize money on offer brought a raft of new machinery to the Sports Sedan ranks, and would bring about an even more lucrative $100,000 Marlboro series at Melbourne’s Calder Park, but CAMS didn’t give the green light for an official Australian Championship for Sports Sedans until 1976.

This fantastic piece of footage was found online by Roaring Season member faminz. It shows the second of two races, from Round 2 of the 1976 Australian Sports Sedan Championship. The leading contenders are Ian ‘Pete’ Geoghegan in the amazing Laurie O’Neil HQ Monaro, with its fuel injected Chevy, twin Hewland transaxles, and beautiful GT40 ‘knock-off’ wheels, along with ex-pat New Zealander Jim Richards, in his second year racing in Australia in the Sidchrome Mustang, Colin Bond making his debut in the new Holden Dealer Team Beast MkIII Torana Sports Sedan, plus Ron Harrop in the incredible Repco Holden powered EH Holden.

Moffat is racing his newly acquired Chevy DeKon Monza (DeKon chassis 1005) IMSA racer, which would create huge controversy in Australia. Moffat would race the Monza during the early rounds, before switching back to his ’74 model RS3100 quad-cam ‘works’ Capri, as he still had strong Ford support at the time. After Ford withdrew from racing in 1979, Moffat would dust the Monza off and race it again in 1980, but by this time the competition had progressed massively.

This footage is just as fascinating for some of the cars and drivers further down the field, including Tony Edmonson in the ex-John McCormack Repco Charger, Bob Gill in the old Pete Geoghegan Mustang GTA which won the ATCC in 1967, 68, and 69, plus John Pollard in the old Frank Gardner SCA Freight Camaro, which our own Roaring Season member Aussiemonza once owned. Jim Smith can be seen in the ex-Bob Jane ZL/1 ’69 Camaro which won the ATCC in 1971 and ’72. Current V8 Supercar team owner Garry Rogers is competing in an Escort. Also in the pack is the relative unknown Queenslander Dick Johnson, still struggling to make a name for himself, and driving the Bryan Byrt XA Falcon Sports Sedan, which Johnson so eloquently described as a ‘stinking pile of puss’. The was formally one of six Ford Special Vehicles RPO83 Falcon hardtops that raced in 1973 during the first year of Group C, and of which none have survived. In fact, another of the RPO83s, that of Murray Carter, still in Group C guise but updated to XB sheetmetal, can also be seen.

There were seven rounds in the 1976 Australian Sports Sedan Championship, and Moffat took three wins, a third, a fifth, and two dnf’s, and won the championship from Frank Gardner who debuted his new Chev Corvair at Round 5, which he won, along with the final two rounds, while Edmonson rounded out the top three in the Charger.

[Steve Holmes]

Part 2 of the race here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnA0WJCKebE

[105angria]

calder 70s

[105angria]

more calder

[Steve Holmes]

Whose is the Anglia? Its a neat looking car, would be a great addition to the 70s and 80s Modified Saloons thread too: http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?56-Modified-70s-and-80s-Saloons-Picture-Thread

[105angria]

Hi Steve this Anglia is Triumph powered like the Triang, ran Calder, Hume Weir, Sandown,, Air, Heathcote,in under 2ltr ,as Sports Sedans started out it was an everymans entry point, this car was built by a talented guy,Eric Jordan,from an EX Cheltenam police car ,with the engine coming out of a clubman ,ran VDO sponsership will post a pic of there corporate set up in the day,Just finished resto for group U historic sports sedans after sitting out in a back yard for 30yr

[105angria]

struggling to resise corporate shot

[105angria]

Philip Island 2011

[105angria]

Corporate Australia in the 70s the guy that looks like a Hells Angel in the corporate facality in the Kombi was VDO,s main man long necks was the brew

[Steve Holmes]

Thats a fantastic car! Can you start a new thread dedicated to it and its racing history, and restoration etc? I'd love to know more about it.

[105angria]

Thanks for your suggestion, this car is a bit obscure and i doubt the thread would get much traction so i will post what i have and see If we get some feedback Eric Jordan is very unwell and has been super generious with is time making sure the car is authentic to its period

[Steve Holmes]

So how did you come to own it Angria?

[105angria]

Son found it on Ebay have been going to car racing from the age of 8 Dunedin street races through the golden years at Wigram ,f5000 OSCA aussie 30yrs love Anglias [Breadvans] and Triumphs so a 95% complete race car was like the stars were in alignement ,lost the auction but persued the buyer as the car was a bit of a job if you wernt serious the gearbox [Cortina with a triumph bellhousing] didnt suit his clubman so the car was mine for the auction price,he even loaned me his trailer for the ride home 2yrs of Friday arvos and Sats luck to find Eric and his pics and its been a total pleasure

[Steve Holmes]

Very cool. Looks like you've gone to a lot of trouble to get it as accurate as possible, right down to the wheels with the Hotwires on front and black rims on back. Is there much growth in Historic Aussie Sports Sedans? There must still be a huge number sitting in sheds around the country.

[105angria]

I know of about 10 cars .then im not really in the car scene the JAG ,ALFA,some MINI,s a 120Y and IMP rotors the FIAT some TORANAS some other Anglias that could fit in period the CHARGER Ive got some pics of a Torana that sat in a transporter for 20yrs,

[105angria]

pics of Torana that had been in storage plus shot of Anglia engine

[Steve Holmes]

This is reallY great stuff Angria. Do you know the history of the Torana and Jag? Got photos of the others?

[Steve Holmes]

The Torana appears to have a DeKon Monza body kit grafted on to it. At least the rear section looks like it.

[105angria]

Yes I believe it a factory Torana race shell,with ex Kev Bartlet f5000 Mclaren rear suspension ,Moroso, motor, developed a noise in motor parked up20 yrs ago sold for 30 gs or there abouts there is a Torana thread somewhere ive seen with pic of the transporter as found dont quote me but the fiberglass bits came from the Garry Rogers sports sedan moulds,When the CAMs eligbility guys checked out my Anglia they made a coment thst this car was a massive expensive project,Ilike the way it is ,patina makes these cars to my way of thinking

[bry3500]

http://wahistorictouringcars.com.au/docs/FCars.pdf

[Steve Holmes]

bry, thats a cool document. Some interesting cars on there. Do you know if the Graham Moore MkIII Cortina is the car raced by Pat Crea in the mid to late 70s?

[Steve Holmes]

Yes I believe it a factory Torana race shell,with ex Kev Bartlet f5000 Mclaren rear suspension ,Moroso, motor, developed a noise in motor parked up20 yrs ago sold for 30 gs or there abouts there is a Torana thread somewhere ive seen with pic of the transporter as found dont quote me but the fiberglass bits came from the Garry Rogers sports sedan moulds,When the CAMs eligbility guys checked out my Anglia they made a coment thst this car was a massive expensive project,Ilike the way it is ,patina makes these cars to my way of thinking

Wow, thats impressive. Who originally raced it?

[105angria]

Here,s the info for Torana http://australianmusclecarsales.com.au/muscle/145748-historic-lx-torana-hatchback-sport-sedan

[Jac Mac]

In the article from post #20, the escort in the photo after the green MK2 cortina is Paul Faheys car obviously taken while on one of its 'Bond' trips, IIRC it was refused permission to race at one event due to not having a laminated screen.

[Steve Holmes]

Here,s the info for Torana http://australianmusclecarsales.com.au/muscle/145748-historic-lx-torana-hatchback-sport-sedan

Thanks for the link, interesting car. Hope its gone to a good home. Do you have any other recently unearthed Sports Sedan pics or info?

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSZ8Ub1jbwE

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Bry3500, good find. Why are there only 5 cars in the race do you know? Here is your piece of footage:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSZ8Ub1jbwE

[105angria]

Calder,AIR Hume Weir

[Steve Holmes]

Does anyone have any progress updates on the restorations of both the Geoghegan HJ Monaro and McCormack/Edmonson Charger that appear in this clip?

[Ellis]

Monaro is in Broken Hill...I have some pics but they are about 2 years old. I will post them later.
I think I may have put them up on here elsewhere.??
The owner sent me this in 2008? so its a bit old
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/P1030179.jpg

[Steve Holmes]

Bloody hell Ellis! I haven't seen this photo before. Thanks heaps for posting it. The progress on this car is great! Much better than I thought it would be. Last photo I saw of this car it was pretty much as it last raced. I'm really pleased its being restored back to its original HJ guise, rather than the HQ guise with the huge box flares. How is the owner getting on with finding some of the rare parts like the Hewland(s) and fuel injection system etc?

Thanks again for posting this Ellis.

[Ellis]

Bloody hell Ellis! I haven't seen this photo before. .......
Its never been posted before probably.
Pic is courtesy of the owner.

I think he has most of the bits.
The important bits at the time of the pic were with the original engine builder so I expect they would be done by now.
The guy who owns it did the resto on the Goss XB 2dr. It was for sale some time back so not sure if he still has it.
I'll post some pics of the Goss XB somewhere.
I should give him a ring and see where Monaro is up to.

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Ellis. When you say the important bits were with the original engine builder, do you mean when the car was first built by John Sheppard, or when the restoration was started? Would love to know how this car is getting on.

[Steve Holmes]

Ellis, would you mind throwing a few more pics of the Geoghegan HJ Monaro on here when you get some more? Am very keen to see its progress.

[Ellis]

Perry Drury Pics....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/31-3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/12-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/21-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/35.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/42-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/47.jpg

[Ellis]

cont......

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/50-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/53.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/54-2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/55.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/46-1.jpg

[Ellis]

cont.....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/02.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/13-3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/15-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/33-2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/59-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/60-1.jpg

[bry3500]

Great Pics Ellis!!!

[Steve Holmes]

Hey Ellis, these are absolutely awesome! Thanks for posting them. Whose is the VW fastback in the first photo? Also, post #36, whose is the Alfa? Is this Brian Foley after he'd put the V8 in it?

[105angria]

Just returned from MCM in Syd only went on Sat did they have any historic Sports Sedans on display on Sunday,the advertising lead me to think that a number of historics would be on display but not on Sat a bit of a letdown

[Ellis]

Hey Ellis, these are absolutely awesome! Thanks for posting them. Whose is the VW fastback in the first photo? Also, post #36, whose is the Alfa? Is this Brian Foley after he'd put the V8 in it?

Yes...Foley Chesterfield Alfa V8

VW....Vince ? Gregory... its Thommos old one ??? I'll check the original pic...Its approx 1976

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Ellis, I thought for some reason Thomson didn't actually sell his, he just retired it. But I could be wrong?

[bry3500]

Steve ..that VW looks like Vince Gregory's 1600TS Chev

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks bry, so the Gregory VW is not the Thomson one?

[bry3500]

Sorry didn't read the post properly..Yes , I read somewhere that it is the Thommo VW

[Steve Holmes]

Oh OK, so Thomson must have bought it back at some stage. He ended up wrecking it.

[bry3500]

Yep..it sat in his workshop for some time..

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks bry, good info.

[Steve Holmes]

What happened to the Foley Alfa? Was this the same car he raced in the '72 ATCC with the normal Alfa motor?

[Ellis]

Gregory.....ex Thomson Symmons Plains
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/30.jpg

RIP....courtesy of Motorsports Archive
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/BryanThomsonVWremainsattip.jpg

[105angria]

Thanks Ellis love the shots, is that Calder at a couple of different times ,Thomos VW has had a couple of body changes in these pics, this car and Lefoe IMP would both be great to do as replicas ,some of the people that built and or ran these cars are still lucid and around and there is a bit of pictorial reference Could you do a hillclimb in this or would you be restricted to demos whats the story with replica use in NZ the group shot is excellent lots of history in that , is that Ron Harrop driving the Bob Jane EH ,Pat Creas VW whos is the Rough Monaro in the background that would be a great revival Kiwi Aussie sport sedan challange Em what a dream grid you could have

[bry3500]

Osca's , All - comers and Sports Sedans :D

[Ellis]

Quote 105angria....is that Ron Harrop driving the Bob Jane EH

It was Harrops EH running under Bob Jane banner.
Wayne Mahnken ended up with it painted black/white with Turbo (maybe twin turbo) Holden 6 with a big rear wing and with about 650hp. It was quick but fragile.

[bry3500]

Results 1976

Position [4] Driver [4] Car Entrant R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7 Total [4]
1 Allan Moffat Chevrolet Monza
Ford Capri RS3100 Allan Moffat Racing 9 9 2 9 4 - - 33
2 Frank Gardner Chevrolet Corvair John Player Racing - - - - 9 9 9 27
3 Tony Edmondson Chrysler VJ Valiant Charger Repco-Holden Donald Elliott 6 - 9 - - 6 - 21
4 Jim Richards Ford Mustang Sidchrome - 3 - 6 6 - 3 18
5 Ian Diffen Holden LJ Torana Chevrolet World of Tyres 3 - - 4 3 - 4 14
6 Ian Geoghegan Holden HQ Monaro GTS 350 Craven Mild Racing - 6 - - 2 - - 8
7 Colin Bond Holden LH Torana Marlboro Holden Dealer Team - 4 4 - - - - 8
8 Brian Potts Holden Torana GTR XU-1 - 1 6 - - - - 7
9 Bob Jane Holden HQ Monaro GTS 350 Bob Jane T Marts - - - - - - 6 6
10 Garry Rogers Ford Escort Garry Rogers 2 - 3 - - - - 5
11 Pat Crea Ford TC Cortina Pat Crea's Volkspares - - - - - 4 - 4
12 Grant Walker Ford Capri RS Grant Walker 4 - - - - - - 4
13 Vince Gregory Volkswagen 1600TS Chevrolet Vince Gregory Racing - - - - 1 3 - 4
14 Brian Smith Holden Torana - - - 3 - - - 3
15 Stuart Beechen Holden Torana GTR XU-1 - - - 2 - - - 2
16 Peter Wells Vauxhall Viva - - - - - 2 - 2
17 Ron Harrop Holden EH Repco-Holden Ron Harrop - 2 - - - - - 2
18 John Pollard Chevrolet Camaro John Pollard - - - - - - 2 2
19 Ed Conacher Holden Torana GTR XU-1 - - - - - 1 - 1
20 Bruce Peacock Ford Anglia - - - 1 - - - 1
21 Lyndon Arnel Holden Torana - - 1 - - - - 1
22 Doug Clark Toyota Celica TA22 Brian Hilton 1 - - - - - - 1
23 Don Halliday Ford Capri Halliday Racing (NZ) - - - - - - 1 1

[Rod Grimwood]

http://wahistorictouringcars.com.au/docs/FCars.pdf

Interesting site;- The little Escort giving Jane a hard time I am certain is Paul Fahey in his FVA. There is some nice machinery there be good to know were they are now.

[Steve Holmes]

Its interesting, I know there have been plans put into action for a few years now to form a Historic Sports Sedan category in Australia. With the vast number of cars built for Sports Sedans, even if the cut-off was 1989, you'd think there would easily be enough cars still around to form a healthy grid. But so far this doesn't appear to have happened. Does anyone know why? I know the organisers of the Muscle Car Masters were really keen to have a Historic Sports Sedan class at their event a few years ago, but this came to nothing.

Anyone got any updates on how this is progressing?

[105angria]

I will do some research with Fred Sayer who has an historic Mini SS in Qland who had a bit to do with the lakeside SS run which had about 5 cars and check with the cams guys and compile a list. I approached the Muscle car people with the Anglia and was told it wasnt applicable the invite had gone out to bring historics but no takers ,maybe not enough cars yet to make critical mass ,in my search for the Lefoe Imp i spoke to John Bennetts bis partner who thought the car was scraped after its barrel roll at Sandown the motor and trans went into something else the body to the tip some engine stats 400ftlb 500hp,asked the question if there was enough retained knowledge to build a replica if someone had the inclination will keep you posted

[bry3500]

Regarding Group U Sports Sedans ..an interesting thread here
http://www.groupc.org.au/forums/showthread.php?t=403

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks bry, yeah interesting thread. I sometimes wonder with these things if it just takes one or two really passionate people prepared to get stuck in and make it happen, then things start moving.

[Steve Holmes]

So of the cars in posts #35 - 37 which Ellis has uploaded in his awesome photos, here is what I can gather:

Allan Moffat Monza, DeKon #1005: Returned to the US and is being restored by owner Steve Sorensen
Bryan Thomson/Vince Gregory Chevy VW: Scrapped
Ron Harrop Repco EH Holden: Where is this now?
Bryan Thomson V8 Torana: Where is this now?
Tony Edmonson Repco Charger: Being restored?
Bob Jane Torana: Where is this now?
Malcolm Ramsay Repco HQ Kingswood: Scrapped
Brian Foley Alfa: Where is this now?
Pete Geoghegan HQ/HJ Monaro: Being restored
Jim Richards Sidchrome Mustang: Currently owned by George Shewiery
Frank Gardner Corvair: Scrapped
#37 Mustang? Who is this?
Bob Jane HQ Monaro: Owned by Des Wall and restored

Did I miss anything?

[105angria]

the dirty Monaro last pic?

[Steve Holmes]

Rex Monahan I believe angria. Sorry, I don't have info on the car though.

[bry3500]

I found this info regarding the Foley Alfa
Vin Sharp apparently has this car ...
. Foley raced it with the original Autodelta 2.0 and for 72 had a Tasman spec 33 engine of 2.5 capacity out of the Mildren “Yellow Submarine” shoehorned in it. This car also headed West but is now back “east” and will be restored back to 71 spec with the 2.0 engine that came with the car

[bry3500]

The Ron Harrop Holden EK apparently is in one piece and awaiting restoration

[bry3500]

here is a thread on the Thommo torana http://www.gmh-torana.com.au/forums/topic/51472-old-race-car-found/page__st__25

[Rookie]

Hi Everyone

First time poster. Really enjoying this website. Lots to digest.

I stumbled across the clip of the 76 race as posted by Steve when searching on another forum.

I own the ex Ray Molloy supermini which you can see if the first part of the clip, right at the end. Car No 40. First logged book as a Sports Sedan in '73. I bought it in '89. Just spent two years restoring it to the last colour scheme used by Ray.

Below is a picture of its first outing (minus engine) at the celebration of 50 years of mini in Australia held at the Melbourne show grounds in July this year.

Cheers Steve

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[Steve Holmes]

Hey Rookie, thats one hell of a first post! Very cool! You've out done yourself restoring that Mini. What an absolute stunner. Are those Mawer wheels on the back? I hope you'll fill us in some more on this car and its history. Fell free to start a dedicated thread for it.

[Steve Holmes]

Bry, you're a wealth of knowledge on this stuff! Thanks for all your efforts. Would love to know how the EH is coming along. Didn't Jim Richards borrow when his Mustang had broken?

[Ellis]

Bry, you're a wealth of knowledge on this stuff! Thanks for all your efforts. Would love to know how the EH is coming along. Didn't Jim Richards borrow when his Mustang had broken?

Jim did drive it....with Sidchrome signage.
I think after Mank had it, it went to a Stewart Douglas. Not sure what happenned to it after that or who is restoring it. I read a post somewhere a couple of years ago where it was going to be restored.

On another car ..Moffats Monza....
Thru this site I was able to contact the current owner.
Sent him a full size pic of it . He said in his reply that the resto is starting next week. ....

Copy /Paste of his reply.....
I am the current owner of DeKon 1005. After Moffat, the Monza had several owners, all of whom raced it in Australia and NZ. Remarkably, the car stayed intact throughout its long racing career. At the end of its career, it was sold to a American. I am embarrassed to say that this sale is the worst thing that ever happen to the Monza. The car was disassembled. Some parts were used to restore a different DeKon and a few other parts were sold.

I have been collecting parts for it for a while. The restoration will finally begin next week.

Thanks again.

Steve

[Rookie]

Thanks for the welcome Steve.

They are Mawers on the rear. The car can run either 10" or 13" on the front. Just need to get some replica Mawers made for the front.

In answer to your question regarding Category U, or Historic Sport Sedans, I contacted Fred Sayers a couple of years ago re the category. If my understanding is right, to be eligable for group U, the original log book is surrended to Cams and a new log book is issued for a cost of $800, something I'm not prepared to do at this time. The car specs are frozen for a particular period which you specify. What I don't understand is the safety aspects of these regs as my car originally ran with a low bucket seat without head restraint, which I'm not prepared to do. I have also changed the roll cage (still have the original) to a safer one although its still alloy. Original tyres are no longer available. I also now run an air filter, which it originally didn't have. At what stage does it become ineligable, or do I make it original and unusable?

I also have the car logged book with the AASA and are hoping to do some racing with the MRA soon. I've love to take it to the Muscle Car Masters and participate in hot laps or displays if thats possible.

Steve

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[Steve Holmes]

That is awesome Steve. Great to know another one has been saved, and is in good hands. Your comments about CAMS and their required payment are the exact same sentiments Graham Booth told me when I spoke to him about his Jim Richards Falcon hardtop. He doesn't want to have to pay a fee to be told what he already knows he has.

Your predicament regarding how accurate you make the car to how it originally was is the same many people have when considering their options with an old race car. Although there were plenty of good things about the history of the sport, there were a few things that weren't so great, such as the safety features, or lack of.

[bry3500]

Rookie..Welcome to the site, and I must Agree with Steve - Fantastic job on the Mini, would love to see it next to Angria105's Anglia. Any chance of getting it to the Sandown Historics - Maybe we could have a group U display to gather some interest. Angria 105 has been in contact with CAMs regarding Group U regs - you guys need to swap notes

[105angria]

from the conversations ive had with cams elegbility guys the safety aspect is something they are flexable about, the seat no problem rollcage can be updated Rookie ill send you the contact for Wayne and John.

[bry3500]

thought this one has disappeared
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOS0_btUjfI&feature=related

[Steve Holmes]

Its apparently been with the same owner for many years.

[thunder427]

from the conversations ive had with cams elegbility guys the safety aspect is something they are flexable about, the seat no problem rollcage can be updated Rookie ill send you the contact for Wayne and John.

C.A.M.S.........Completely Against Motor Sport !!!!!

[105angria]

where would you get a set of Mawers wheels made, these look the same as Lefoes Imp,

[bry3500]

..and that dark Angria Brain starts ticking.....

[Steve Holmes]

If you can find a wheel you should be able to get some copies made. Mawer were one of the first, if not the first Aussie company to start producing light weight race wheels as an affordable alternative to the expensive imported stuff. Prior to this most grass-roots racers had to widen steel wheels.

[105angria]

Tracked down new wheel makers

[Rod Grimwood]

Angria:- Tell more as I am rebuilding my little Shellsport Escort and will need new wheels.
Cheers

[105angria]

Will keep you posted Rod as these guys come forward with Mawer wheel info

[105angria]

A quick list of sports sedans that exist Mike Ceveri Sierra Chev, Ex Charlie Miller Torana, Thompson /fowler twin turbo Merc Dave hunters LC Torana Gary ford MK 1 Escort Mark Trenoweth Unipart Mccormack Jag Ex Bruce Smith RX7 Fred Sayers Don Holland Mini Rookis Mini Mccormack Charger Edmonson Ansett Alfetta , Wards Fiat ,toyshop Pantera, Jordan Anglia, 2 other Anglias , Brad Stratton Lj Torana, Baily Supra , Mazda R100 Dess Wall Supra / Monza , Ex HDT supercharged Torana ,Torana on 105, must be plenty more

[Ellis]

Also....Tassie's Bruce Gowans got his old McCormack built Toyota Celica Repco V8 back a couple of years ago or so.
Some work has been done and an engine sourced I've heard.

[Rookie]

Will keep you posted Rod as these guys come forward with Mawer wheel info

I'm interested as well. I've got 10" & 13" centres that I was going to copy via CNC if I can find somone to do it at a reasonable price. The original centers were cast. I've just had some new rear rims spun up in 6061 Al by Whitehorse Industries in Melb. Manager Craig was very helpful. I'm saving up at the moment to get some new dies made for the correct offset for the front wheels.

[bry3500]

nice collection

[105angria]

Regarding Mawer wheels contact details John Gifford 02 9731 0573 jgandvr@ozemail.com.au ,talking to John these wheels are cast in the original foundry and the machining is by the Mawer guy various size and hub options, price flucuates according to spec $750 is a median price

[bry3500]

HISTORIC GROUP U THREAD HERE - http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?300-Historic-Sports-Sedans-Australia-(Group-U)

[Bondy]

nice collection

A few more from Models 56

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/karterboi/Picture1574.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/karterboi/Picture1573.jpg

and an extra that was created from a HQ and a Jane Camaro

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/karterboi/brettshq1.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/karterboi/brettshq6.jpg

[Steve Holmes]

Hey those models are cool Bondy. Whose is the HQ Monaro supposed to be? Is that a TCM car?

[Bondy]

Hey those models are cool Bondy. Whose is the HQ Monaro supposed to be? Is that a TCM car?

Hi Steve,

It was a bit of a hybrid Janey car, but Brett Youlden was building his TCM car and used the model as a Sponsorship proposal weapon ;) hence his name on it.. It now just sits in the shop as a display.

[Gary Goulding]

A quick list of sports sedans that exist Mike Ceveri Sierra Chev, Ex Charlie Miller Torana, Thompson /fowler twin turbo Merc Dave hunters LC Torana Gary ford MK 1 Escort Mark Trenoweth Unipart Mccormack Jag Ex Bruce Smith RX7 Fred Sayers Don Holland Mini Rookis Mini Mccormack Charger Edmonson Ansett Alfetta , Wards Fiat ,toyshop Pantera, Jordan Anglia, 2 other Anglias , Brad Stratton Lj Torana, Baily Supra , Mazda R100 Dess Wall Supra / Monza , Ex HDT supercharged Torana ,Torana on 105, must be plenty more

I am racinging the EX Terry Corbett MK1 Ford Escort in Qld. (I have a group U log book issued for it) Only one of about three (3) that has the CAMS log book isssued.
This car raced in Qld from 1983 till the present. The o'l girl is still going around ok.
Cheers Gary Goulding

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFMEcgZH1U&feature=related

[Steve Holmes]

Nice one Bry, that was cool. Some real classic Sports Sedans in that field. The old Geoghegan Monaro looks monstrous in comparison to the newer machinery. Was the Bob Tindall Torana the same car raced previously by Garry Rogers? I think the Neil Brain Monza might be the car now owned by Rowan Harman??? And wasn't the old Amaroo Park a neat layout.

[bry3500]

Nice one Bry, that was cool. Some real classic Sports Sedans in that field. The old Geoghegan Monaro looks monstrous in comparison to the newer machinery. Was the Bob Tindall Torana the same car raced previously by Garry Rogers? I think the Neil Brain Monza might be the car now owned by Rowan Harman??? And wasn't the old Amaroo Park a neat layout.
Thanks Steve,,Yes, Amaroo always seemed to produce some great races,,I think I remember reading somewhere that Bob Tindall built up his Torana from bits he found in wrecking yards..

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Bry. I'm sure you're right. Thinking about it now, I have a copy of a 1982 Aussie motorsport annual somewhere and the Tindall Torana has larger versions of what look like Group C flares on the car, so these box flares must have come later. The Rogers car already had the box flares well before 1982.

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvnVC3UHU1k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g2QPxTV5UE&feature=related

[bry3500]

Nice one Bry, that was cool. Some real classic Sports Sedans in that field. The old Geoghegan Monaro looks monstrous in comparison to the newer machinery. Was the Bob Tindall Torana the same car raced previously by Garry Rogers? I think the Neil Brain Monza might be the car now owned by Rowan Harman??? And wasn't the old Amaroo Park a neat layout.

good thread here on the Torana's
http://www.sportssedans.com.au/forum1/index.php?a=topic&t=6&p=3521

[bry3500]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olGAZDwDvAo&feature=related

[bry3500]

A perfect gentleman? ;)

[aussiemonza]

Nice one Bry, that was cool. Some real classic Sports Sedans in that field. The old Geoghegan Monaro looks monstrous in comparison to the newer machinery. Was the Bob Tindall Torana the same car raced previously by Garry Rogers? I think the Neil Brain Monza might be the car now owned by Rowan Harman??? And wasn't the old Amaroo Park a neat layout.

Bob Tindall's Torana was his own creation. The Rogers car went to Robin Dougherty, then the Lusty's and then Ceverie.

The Neil Brain Monza featured is in fact the ex-Moffat DeKon 1005. Brain (and a partner) bought it off Paul Jones who had bought it off Moffat. Brain crashed it at Amaroo and it then went to John Tesoriero, patched and has since gone to the US where it is awaiting resto.

[timbo61]

The Rogers car in the hands of Robin Doherty,

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And as run by Mike Ceveri,

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The Tindal Torana,

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And his later TWR Commodore bodied Sports Sedan,

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And the same car as run by Peter O'Brien,

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[Steve Holmes]

Thanks for those pics timbo. So what happened to those two Torana's? Does anyone know their whereabouts, or did the Tindal car become his Commodore?

[Steve Holmes]

Tony Hubbard raced a black Torana hatch during the 1982 Aussie sports sedan championship. It had Group C style flares, though much bigger, and Zakspeed Capri/Escort style stripes. What happened to this car?