Ivan Segedin "Motorsport Legend"

[Kiwiboss]

Hi guys, I got word today that Ivan Segedin is very ill and his future is not looking good!! although short notice we'd like to in a small way honour him at the festival in the HMC pits, so if anyone has pictures of him from the early years id like to get some posters done, Email to dmathers@xtra.co.nz and off-course he imported the first mustang into NZ and it went straight to the race track creating history itself!!

Lets all think of him and his family over the X-Mas/New Year holiday break

Dale M

[Grant Sprague]

Thanks Dale .... very good of you to get the ball rolling ........never meet him but do remember his white & red anglia as a kid , he gave people like Kerry Grant ,Ernie, Paul , Rod etc a big hurry up in those hey daz.... seemed to be very fast as I remember .Grant

[Rod Grimwood]

Ivan had a game boat up here in the Bay of Islands up until a few years back and I was lucky enough to spend some great nights sitting on boats and talking about days gone past. Nice guy and interesting to spend time with over a beer after a days Marlin fishing.
Wishing Ivan the best.

[kiwi285]

Remember the Anglia and the racing team that quite a few of the Waikato racers were in. When he raced the Fleetwood Motors Mustang at Pukekohe I remember the thunder of the V8 and that nose up attitude under acceleration. Compared to the Lotus Cortina's it was an impressive beast. Not entirely successful but it certainly opened the door to the V8's

Thinking of Ivan and his family at this time - thanks for the memories.

[Kiwiboss]

Just got word that great motorsport legend Ivan Segedin passed away about half and hour ago(around 1.30). RIP Ivan.

No other details at this stage

Dale M

[Oldfart]

Very sad to hear. Yet another. The after match function up there must be getting pretty crowded. RIP Ivan and condolences to all the family.

[Rod Grimwood]

Very sad to hear. Yet another. The after match function up there must be getting pretty crowded. RIP Ivan and condolences to all the family.




Yes, I endorse those thoughts. There has been a few of late, and I know we can not change time and illness, but it still hits the nerve when you hear of a comrade passing. All Motorsport in New Zealand is indeed indepted to Ivan and family. Thank you for the memories and times shared Ivan.
RIP Ivan there is a Marlin out there with your name on it.

[Kiwiboss]

A few pictures from Neil Tolich

[fullnoise68]

Good photos Dale, Terry Marshall has also got some good ones.

[kiwi285]

A few pictures from Neil Tolich

That is a great photo of Ivan, Neil and the Fleetwood car. So many great memories. Thanks

[jamie]

R I P Ivan Jamie A

[Kiwiboss]

Anyone have a date or birth for Ivan(RIP)

Dale M

[fullnoise68]

Remember the Anglia and the racing team that quite a few of the Waikato racers were in. When he raced the Fleetwood Motors Mustang at Pukekohe I remember the thunder of the V8 and that nose up attitude under acceleration. Compared to the Lotus Cortina's it was an impressive beast. Not entirely successful but it certainly opened the door to the V8's

Thinking of Ivan and his family at this time - thanks for the memories.

According to MSNZ archives Mike, although David Simpson won the outright 1966 NZ Saloon Car Championship in his Lotus powered Anglia, Ivan actually won the `Unlimited Class' for larger capacity engines, so he still won a NZ class title in the Mustang.

[Kiwiboss]

According to MSNZ archives Mike, although David Simpson won the outright 1966 NZ Saloon Car Championship in his Lotus powered Anglia, Ivan actually won the `Unlimited Class' for larger capacity engines, so he still won a NZ class title in the Mustang.

So Ivan was the Unlimited Saloon Car Champion for 1966 then Steve, in the Fleetwood Mustang?

Just getting RIP in Memory off stickers made now for the Festival!!

Dale M

[Rod Grimwood]

So Ivan was the Unlimited Saloon Car Champion for 1966 then Steve, in the Fleetwood Mustang?

Just getting RIP in Memory off stickers made now for the Festival!!

Dale M


That's a great thing to do Dale, he was a real gentleman and a major part of NZ Motorsport.
RIP Ivan memories for ever.

[Kiwiboss]

he was a real gentleman and a major part of NZ Motorsport.
RIP Ivan memories for ever.

Too rite Rod, i only got to know him in the last few years thu his business partner Shane Johnson and always a very pleasant man, he didn't know me from a "bar of soap" but always said gidday!!

Dale M

[David McKinney]

According to MSNZ archives Mike, although David Simpson won the outright 1966 NZ Saloon Car Championship in his Lotus powered Anglia, Ivan actually won the `Unlimited Class' for larger capacity engines, so he still won a NZ class title in the Mustang.
Not quite
Dave Simpson won the NZRDC Championship (for allcomers), which didn't have capacity classes
Ivan Segedin won the Over 1300 class of the separate MANZ Gp2 Championship

[fullnoise68]

David, I realise you have a lot of knowledge, but if you google `Ivan Segedin Motorsport NZ' then go down to `Discontinued Race Championships'. Scroll right down the page and you will see for yourself. I was doing a bit of research for a `Memorial Trophy' for Ivan that I`m getting done for our HMC class at the Ferrari Festival and that`s how I came to read it. I didn`t put it on here to create an argument, I merely stated what was written about him in trying to do something out of respect for the guy.

[Oldfart]

Not wishing to get in the middle, what fullnoise refers to is Motorsport NZ' own site.

[Kiwiboss]

Straight from Motorsport NZ's website. Dale M

NZ Saloon Championship – Unlimited Class(For points gained in the largest engine-capacity class of the NZ Saloon Championship)

1977 Jack Nazer (Victor-Chevrolet)
1976 Jack Nazer (Victor-Chevrolet)
1975 Paul Fahey (Ford Capri)
1974 Jim Richards (Ford Mustang)
1973 Rod Coppins (Pontiac Firebird)
1972 Paul Fahey (Ford Mustang)
1971 Paul Fahey (Ford Escort FVA)
1970 Red Dawson (Ford Mustang)
Rod Coppins (Chevrolet Camaro)
1969 Paul Fahey (Ford Mustang)
1968 Paul Fahey (Ford Mustang)
1967 Frank Bryan (Ford Mustang)
1966 Ivan Segedin (Ford Mustang)

[David McKinney]

That list is legitimate, although it combines several championships

In 1966 and 1967 however the main saloon championship was the NZRDC series, won respectively by Dave Simpson and Robbie Francevic

Sorry to have taken this thread OT - I remember Ivan's first races in the Mk2 Zephyr and later of course the Anglia and Mustang, and always admired his approach

[Steve Holmes]

Not quite
Dave Simpson won the NZRDC Championship (for allcomers), which didn't have capacity classes
Ivan Segedin won the Over 1300 class of the separate MANZ Gp2 Championship

David is quite correct to point this out, as, for the sake of any tributes related to Ivan's motor racing achievements, the Group 2 championship was run completely separately from the NZRDC championship. The 1966 NZRDC championship (usually just referred to these days as the NZ Saloon Car Championship) was open to Allcomer cars, and was won by Dave Simpson in a Lotus twin-cam 'Breadvan' Anglia, with Paul Fahey finishing the championship second in a similar car. Rod Coppins finished third in the Zephyr Corvette.

For the 1966 season, a separate championship under FIA Group 2 rules was introduced, perhaps as an indication of where Motorsport NZ wanted saloon car racing to head in the future. The Group 2 championship had its own points system, and while sometimes the series ran within the NZRDC series, with Group 2 cars being awarded points based on where each car finished in relation to other Group 2 cars, they also sometimes ran their own separate races. Whereas the NZRDC championship had seven rounds, the Group 2 championship had eight rounds.

Jim Mullins won the overall 1966 Group 2 championship in a Mini Cooper, collecting 57 points from Brian Innes in a similar car, who scored 50 points. Segedin finished third, on 47 points. Cars were split into two classes: 0-1,300cc, and Over 1,300cc. Points were awarded 10, 7, 5, 3, 1, within each class, which counted towards the overall Group 2 championship. But within the overall championship, drivers were then awarded for their final points positions within their class. Therefore, Segedin collected 47 points to the 41 of his closest class rival Alf Bell in a Cortina GT.

So while the Motorsport NZ site is not incorrect, it is slightly misleading, as it suggests Segedin won a class within the NZRDC championship that the Allcomers were contesting. But that said, he did indeed win his class in the 1966 Group 2 Championship.

[Steve Holmes]

The life and motor racing career of Ivan Segedin are being celebrated by Historic Muscle Cars at the 2014 New Zealand Festival of Motor Racing. These A3 sized posters of Ivan in his legendary Mustang, which I've just finished making, will be made available for those who get in early! My thanks to Terry Marshall for supplying the stunning images.

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[Oldfart]

Stunning Steve. How much? Still no reply from you about photos!