Historic Sport Sedans

[ERC]

I'm gobsmacked! I didn't think there were still self-centred, egotistical arseholes like that around who would pull a shitty stunt like that!

Let's just say it wasn't the HSS group, not the HMC group and definitely not ERC nor the Heritage Touring car group, nor the Formula Libre or any single seater group.

[nigel watts]

Let's just say it wasn't the HSS group, not the HMC group and definitely not ERC nor the Heritage Touring car group, nor the Formula Libre or any single seater group.

So, on checking my program that just leaves the Central Muscle Cars.

[ERC]

You may think that but I couldn't possibly comment...

On a brighter note -


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[John McKechnie]

So, on checking my program that just leaves the Central Muscle Cars.
Nigel- I dont know who the individuals were who did this, but I will never say that it is a reflection on the whole class.
Ray- thank for this great pic showing me how neat the cars were on the day....Falcon will look just as good again soon.

[Rod Grimwood]

It will

[John McKechnie]

#1003- the red Torana LJ GTR V8 is now on Cars for Sale section here.
Schedule K COD means that it can run at Historic meetings, and in Historic Sports Sedan class.

[khyndart in CA]

I'm gobsmacked! I didn't think there were still self-centred, egotistical arseholes like that around who would pull a shitty stunt like that!

But where was my buddy Trump that day ?

He gets blamed for everything over here !

[John McKechnie]

In relation to the Legends of Speed meeting March 25, 26
The track is open for hire for practice Friday 24 .
Book through Hampton Downs web site, costs $195 inc gst

[John McKechnie]

The gold and white Capri V8 of Rob Brerrigan- has a longer history than we thought.
Rob got it off Bob Grove who presented it as it is now, and had run it for some years.
I looked at the 3 log books today that Rob got with the car, turned out it was built in 1993 with a 5000cc V8
One owner was a B. Chambers
The late Jeff Cooley owned it was no. 79, had Dave Ward Towing on the front guard
#832 of Historic Sport Sedan thread shows it running at Taupo in 1998 with usual suspects Graham Barnes, Neil Deighton, John Learmonth, Roger Davis, my Torana V8 ,even Dale Mathers was there in my old Mustang Fastback
So here is another car from the past that disappeared and has returned.
If anyone has anymore info on this car please let me know

[John McKechnie]

Also reminder to all competitors and spectators that the Barry Algie Memorial meeting at Taupo is in 2 weeks- April 7, 8,9.
Racing will be 5 handicap races on Track 1.
For accommodation please email me- J.mckechnie@slingshot.co.nz.

[Kiwiboss]

This guy was causing trouble all weekend but he's a likable fella, LOL :)

[Bruce302]

This guy was causing trouble all weekend but he's a likable guy, LOL :)


Mmnmmm, Got the munchies and the crazy eyes...

[John McKechnie]

Ok, folks- Taupo is on April 8, 9 April.
This is our last run of Summer, put on by the Historic Racing Club.
It is called the Barry Algie Memorial meeting, with 2 races Saturday, 3 on Sunday.
All 5 are Handicap and there is the Trophy up for grabs as well.

We have confirmed-
Gordon Burr- running his well known Escort V8, it will be worth watching his driving style
Roger Davis -returning to Taupo in the same Torana V8 after a 16 year absence .
Jon Telford - his mighty Mazda RX8 fresh from some quick running last weekend. He loves close racing
Robert Bartley- the Francevic recreation 7 litre Custaxie 2.Most visual Allcomer ever.
Graham Barnes- the most well known Capri V8 in NZ-the drivers just had some radical modification also
Adrian Dobbe- giant killing HB Viva powered by XU1 from the 70s
Darcy May- Jennifer Mossmans original Consul 315 Sports Sedan rejoining the pack after so many years
Robert Jack-Brennan built Escort V8 wanting a good meeting after early exit last week.
John Rush- Neiman built Escort Lite V8 showing rampant ,pulsating red is THE race colour
Bruce Goodwin- showing that dropping a V8 into a Z-car makes for a fun race meeting
Dennis Running- the original ex Marsh, ex Willis RX8 wants to be the quickest RX8
Graeme Park- sorted out the bugs ine the Marina and now wants the Pteradactyl to really fly.
Rob Berrgren- the ex Jeff Cooley Capri V8 returns to Taupo after almost 18 years.
Cam Neil- Allcomers started with V8 Coupes and this 20 year old veteran -car not Cam- still can head the pack.
Ivan Bevins- Craigys XBGT will finally get to stretch its big horse power legs here-will the brakes take it?
Neil Deighton- the enduring Chavenger showing it has met all these cars before and its no big deal.
Peter Hooper- a replica of the Strong Starlet Shellsports ,its all about lightness and agility.
Richard Quinn- the ex Crowe, ex French Starlet. Trevor got it right- light, agile and a real engine.
Craig Horn- Torana XU1 -its always going to be a threatening package here, especially on Craigs home track
John McKechnie- at long last the original Team Cambridge Monaro becomes a race car again.

Barrys Monaro will be there on display.

If you have a suitable car and want to run with us, please contact me.

Sports Sedans are back in Taupo at last !!!
If this sounds like your car watching weekend- join us

[ERC]

Brilliant effort John and thanks to your hard work, a still growing class. Keep up the good work and will see you next season.

Thanks also to all entrants for bringing these great cars out to play - all of them. Just continue to enjoy it, as for my money, one of the best classes currently running in the North Island.

[John McKechnie]

Thanks Ray- each of these cars is a gem truly highlighting the Sports Sedan era
Wonderful value for money spectacle of real cars actually battling it out- same as in the 70s, 80s, 90,none are show ponies or trailer queens.

[John McKechnie]

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[John McKechnie]

Also format for Taupo next weekend-
5 X 4 lap handicap races.
The donor of the Trophy is happy with my suggestion that The Trophy not be performance based, but, be for just being there to compete.
So after the racing on Sunday afternoon ,a member of Barrys family will pull out of a hat a number between 1 and 18 and that driver wins the Trophy for a year .It will be up for grabs annually
I wont be in the draw and Graeme Barnes is still too tender from recent events to compete.
Better percentages than lotto will give you.

[John McKechnie]

Last minute issues with the Team Cambridge Monaro, and we have run out of time, it wont be at Taupo folks

[Oldfart]

Sorry to hear that John. Nil Bastardum Carborundum

[John McKechnie]

Thanks for that Reece...still takes the wind out of the sails though.
Non modo, sed etiam.......? hopefully not.
It looks like I will be a spectator.

[John McKechnie]

I have had a very busy week, and finally the day before Taupo , I have decided try to take the Torana to race.
Needed- a complete package involving a tow car , car trailer and driver .
I need to get there tomorrow-leave about midday , and return to Auckland Sunday afternoon or Monday.
Even getting the car there tomorrow would be most important as I can get the car back seperately
Can arrange accommodation at the track and cover expenses.
Anyone interested ?
Also Taupo weather is looking good for this weekend.

[John McKechnie]

Chris Watson sent me the Face book views from the Taupo 8 April BArry Algie Memorial meeting-


Taupo Barry Algie

Libre Roll out 842
Historic Sports sedans 4313
Hooters 873
Historic Sports sedans 672
Prizegiving Historic Sports sedan 4132
Historic Sports sedans Grid 1000

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[John McKechnie]

HSS are having their annual meeting to confirm the program for the next summer
Time- Wednesday 31 May 7pm.
Venue- Adrian Dobbes ,72 Ingram Rd, Drury- down long driveway.
Pizza can be delivered, out of town campervan owners can stay overnight

[John McKechnie]

Time to put up the 2017/2018 calendar for our class-

A....October 14 TACCOC Hampton Downs Saturday only meeting.3 races

B.....November 11,12- MG Manfeild.

C.....December 10 TACCOC Hampton Downs- Sunday only we dont have our own grid, however-provisionally those cars that have a COD and HSS sticker can run with HMC with Dales permission.-3 races

D.....January 20,21 -F5000 Grand Prix -Taupo. I will be organizing a motorsport trivia quiz night for some entertainment

E.....March 17,18 -Legends of Speed- Hampton Downs- definitely wont clash with Beach Hop.

F..... April 7.8 -Taupo - Barry Algie Trophy

HMC and HSS are also running at all of these 6 events and should be great for the fans to see all our Historics out running.
HSS race format- Race 1- scratch/grid, balance will be Handicaps.
All events are pre-entry so check online or with organizing club to avoid disappointment.

[kiwi285]

I have been reliably informed that these two cars will be racing with the HSS field at the MG Meeting in November.


The Murdoch Shellsport Avenger
http://i65.tinypic.com/2prwhnl.jpg

[John McKechnie]

This is Michael Johnstons cars, he is from Ashburton, and has been running for 30+ years.
The one on the left belongs to his family - its a 2 door Avenger Shellsport and I am told that it is one of only 2 original Shellsports in the South Island. It was built up by Wayne Murdoch who used to be the mechanic for Barry Lloyd- XAGT Coupe ,he won 2 NZ titles- , then he ran a XA GT Sedan . Michaels brother bought it 20+ years ago because a Murdoch car was worth owning, they were well built and that good.
Car is exactly as it was then.
The other car is his Nissan Scarab- 240 with 327. It ran just like is in 70s and 80s in America-.he ran with us last year.
I am proud to announce that these 2 time capsules will be running in the Historic Sports Sedans and Invited Allcomer class at MG Manfeild in November.

Not many time we in the NI will get a chance to see these 2 rare and genuine cars, but thats what Historics are all about- seeing close up the real cars.
Big thanks to Mike Feisst for posting these pix.


Also to all competitors going to Manfield -
Undercover stadium parking -$150 plus GST is still available, but going fast.
Get in while it is till available- contact Bruce Dyer or Dale Mathers.

[Kiwiboss]

Now that is what Historic Sports Sedans is all about........well done getting these two cars up from down south John. Dale M


I have been reliably informed that these two cars will be racing with the HSS field at the MG Meeting in November.


The Murdoch Shellsport Avenger
http://i65.tinypic.com/2prwhnl.jpg

[John McKechnie]

One of our drivers now has the MK2 Zephyr Corvette Replica as built by John Climo and run with us several years ago by John Marslin
Here is some very interesting pix collection of the build of the car in 1983, Rod Coppins at the time -

https://www.cabbagetreecornermedia.com/johns-work-page

A lot of work on this by John Climo ,excellent look back at the early days of Historic Saloons -Resto Racing which is essential to understanding that what we have now did not happen overnight and a lot of people had real vision back then
One of my favourite pix is Jim Richards who was driving it at the Wellington street race, standing next to it
Great viewing ,never seen these pix before enjoy them all as I know i did.
And appreciate that the Zephyr that Rod raced in 1983, one of the originals at the start then will still be racing with us 34 years on.
Its never about the speed, its about the cars.-which is why the Invited Allcomers are so important

[Paul B]

Great to see that car back on the track for sure. John Climo sure has done a great job.
Great piece of resto history.

[John McKechnie]

This from a regular watcher-
Thanks John, That is very interesting. John Climo deserves recognition as a dedicated enthusiast.

That was a very good build and very authentic car.

It is in good hands now.

[John McKechnie]

On Allcomer topic, looking at these car that came out for Resto Racing-

A......MK1 Zephyr CN 6757- Geoff Walker, John Dring, racing in 1984, what happened to this car?
We have MK2, MK3 Zephyrs running with us, we need a MK1-definitely this one, will look at others to make a full house set for the Blue Oval- MK1V dont have any historical representatives. There were 390 MK1s, Mays heads.......

B......Also talking about MK1s there were 2 door Cortinas running in Resto Racing- John Stevens. Where are they now, they can now be running in Bruces Historic Saloon Car class, or ,with a V8, they can run with us.

C......Tim Williams Humber 80...another car that could be running in Bruces HSC class

D.......Heads update on the ex Faloon Anglia number 57.....

So any of these sitting in garages that people want to exercise with Historics ?

[John McKechnie]

Roger Williams has advised me that he will be running his Corvette with us this season and to send him our program.
This is a very special car....it is the real deal-

"With Greenwood Corvettes doing so well, customers began rolling up, all wanting their own versions. Several customer cars were built throughout the '70s for privateer teams to contest IMSA and Trans-Am. One of these is the car now owned by Kiwi historic racing enthusiast, Roger Williams, and was only recently imported into New Zealand. This car started life around 1977 as an earlier 1968-'69 base Greenwood-built L88, with the much milder FIA-style flares of the pre-1974 Greenwood cars. In February 1979, it was purchased by amateur racer Bill 'Snoopy' Wessel, who raced it twice that year, both times at Daytona, including the November Daytona Finale 250 Mile event. At some point the car was upgraded to wide-body specifications. Of the 12 wide-body Greenwood cars, Roger's car is number 005."
The article can be found-

http://www.medinaracing.com/fabrication.html

So here we have a seriously Historic coming out to join us again.
Roger was going to run with us several years ago, but didnt get through practice before needing some major work.
The car is presented as a tribute to -Old Blue
-" the original Old Blue car was initially displayed by Greenwood at the 1974 Detroit Auto Show"-article
This is a very, very desirable car in the USA.
We are so lucky that he has it and will run with us so all the fans can enjoy it

[Spgeti]

On Allcomer topic, looking at these car that came out for Resto Racing-

A......MK1 Zephyr CN 6757- Geoff Walker, John Dring, racing in 1984, what happened to this car?
We have MK2, MK3 Zephyrs running with us, we need a MK1-definitely this one, will look at others to make a full house set for the Blue Oval- MK1V dont have any historical representatives. There were 390 MK1s, Mays heads.......

B......Also talking about MK1s there were 2 door Cortinas running in Resto Racing- John Stevens. Where are they now, they can now be running in Bruces Historic Saloon Car class, or ,with a V8, they can run with us.

C......Tim Williams Humber 80...another car that could be running in Bruces HSC class

D.......Heads update on the ex Faloon Anglia number 57.....

So any of these sitting in garages that people want to exercise with Historics ?

Yes John HSC would welcome any Mk1 Cortina, Twin Cam or pre crossflow. We are missing these neat cars along with Mini's.
We have between HMC and HSC a great group of Pre 1966 building. To date 2 Anglia's, 2 Alfa Romeo Giulia's, 1 Mk2 Jaguar, 1 Wolseley 1500 and 2 Falcon Sprints being built.
If this interests any of you please give us, Dale or myself a call. Contact details are on our website.
historicmusclecars.co.nz

PS we are not Bruce's HSC group, we are HSC...thanks

[Oldfart]

John, the ex Faloon Anglia is alive and well in Apiti. The current custodian is a really nice chap who may not be allowed to drive competitively any more. PM me for contacts if you wish.

[John McKechnie]

I have been talking to a guy about XU1s with 308 V8s in them.
He told me about when serving his apprenticeship in Timaru 1975 , there was a chap Tim Bayliss who had an XU1 and put a 308 in it.
Any leads or info on this ?

[Go Slideways]

This Monza is in my mates barn. I don't know anything about it's history other than it was bought for the Sprintcar engine it had in it.

I'll ask him about it when he gets back from Knoxville next week.

https://s29.postimg.org/6ytzac4wn/Monza_2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[John McKechnie]

Please do ask him, fascinating looking car...great to know its history

[Go Slideways]

Please do ask him, fascinating looking car...great to know its history

I'll be sure to ask him John.

https://s21.postimg.org/so2u3k0xz/Monza_3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[225sloper]

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[Oldfart]

Nice set of pics Sloper.
I wonder if "Mad Pete" could be persuaded to bring out the ex Crowe Skoda?

[John McKechnie]

Rhys......work still in progress on the Skoda -problems with bellhousing , clutch, starter motor combination. Has been some time now.

[John McKechnie]

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The Ferguson Torana behind Jen went to Glenn Ellingham for some time and lives in the South Island now.
Owner Paul Scobie tells me the engine is currently having some work done

[John McKechnie]

I have just sold my XU1 V8 Torana to Jamie Bennenbroek, daughter of the original owner and builder. Yes, she wants to run with us, Good to see the car will be used and not sit in garage.

[John McKechnie]

. Hi Everyone, message from TACCOC in relation to the Saturday October 14 meeting-
" Once we have the go-ahead, we will set the event up on the MotorsportEntry.com website, and advise all participating classes. Hopefully, this will be in the next couple of weeks, giving us at least 3 weeks to get entries in."

[aussiemonza]

I'll be sure to ask him John.

https://s21.postimg.org/so2u3k0xz/Monza_3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Is there any more info on this Monza? I recall a similar car being advertised some years back.

[John McKechnie]

Probably is the same one if that one had an all alloy Sprint Car engine, its been sitting fo a while.
I have never been approached about its eligibility.

[John McKechnie]

Entries for the TACCOC meeting at Hampton Downs on Saturday 14 October are now open-

-I can confirm that the on-line entries are now open for the TACCOC Spring Classic at Hampton Downs on October 14th. www.motorsportentry.com
Please ask your members to carefully select the correct racing class – Historic Sports Sedans and not the Historic Muscle Cars / Historic Saloon Cars, who are also racing at this event.
As you’ll see, the entry fee is just $295,
NB: Pit Garages should be booked in advance (by Oct 11th), as they are unlikely to be available on the day-.

Daylight savings will be with us, lets start this Summer Season , cant wait to get the team Cambridge Monaro out to run with its buddies.

[Oldfart]

There are a lot of people who will be mentally supporting your efforts to get the car out there too John.

[Steve Holmes]

I'll be sure to ask him John.

https://s21.postimg.org/so2u3k0xz/Monza_3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

I recall it being for sale approx 6 or 8 years ago. I don't think it has period history, rather was something someone in NZ put together from memory.

[John McKechnie]

There are a lot of people who will be mentally supporting your efforts to get the car out there too John.

Hi Rhys,
i know that you for one will be in the middle of the back seat.
Will take the video camera for those who cant make it.-for safety reasons, we cant fit the 37 interested people in....though it would make for a wicked celebration party, passing the drinks around to everybody, just like in the old days

[John McKechnie]

Steve- i have been told it was put together for GT class, so no period history, and probably not many period parts

[Steve Holmes]

Steve- i have been told it was put together for GT class, so no period history, and probably not many period parts

Yeah you may be right John. I don't ever recall seeing it race.

[John McKechnie]

This race Commodore is on Trademe

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/auction-1429555165.htm

As it was a Tranzam Lite with history, it can run with this class...with a correct period engine.
If someone is looking for a car to run with us, let me know if you are considering this or the Escort-

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/auction-1428966901.htm

[Steve Holmes]

This race Commodore is on Trademe

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/auction-1429555165.htm

As it was a Tranzam Lite with history, it can run with this class...with a correct period engine.
If someone is looking for a car to run with us, let me know if you are considering this or the Escort-

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/auction-1428966901.htm

There must have been 100 of these things built. I wonder where they all went?

[John McKechnie]

Steve- Denns Running and Kevin Lancaster put quite a few together.I have 4 on my books -Brian Friend being one, Dennis Running still has a Falcon, Danny Mckenna has one for sale- wrong engine though, Dennis R destroyed one, the list goes on. One could be coming up from SI , I am always trying to verify them.

[John McKechnie]

Its all happening at Hampton Downs this Saturday October 14 TACCOC hosting.
We will have an amazing picture shoot opportunity-

All together again- Last seen together at Puke 1975 with John Riley,Robin Tanner, and George Bunce. Long time between drinks of 100 Octane.

Custom Card Camaro,
Coppins Firebird.
Team Cambridge Monaro

Zephyr Corvette Replica -also appearing
Rod Coppins had this car built to the specs his car ran in the 60s, he raced it at Ardmore with 4 wins and a second 5 weeks before he passed on.
Jim Richards drove it at the Wellington Street race.
Car was there right at the start of the retro racing in 80s , and Craig cant wait to run with the rest of us Invited Allcomers.

How long have we waited and talked seeing these cars together at the track again ???????
And now we can...........
Absolutely no excuses for missing out.
Special thanks to all involved.
Tony, Bruce ,Craig,me and the gang are really looking forward to all being on the track together this weekend.
We have our ever popular Sports Sedans having their first hit out for Summer and look at the Invited Allcomers joining them.

Weather report is favourable so we are looking forward to some fun times both on and off the track

[touringcarfan]

Hi John

Is the Custom Card Camaro the car entered by Tony Antonievich?

Also is the Coppins Firebird racing as I don`t see it on the entry list?

Overall the entries are quite healthy which suggests there is much merit in these 1 day events.

Roll on Saturday.

Anthony

[Andrew Metford]

Where is the entry list online? Might pop down for a look.

[Bruce302]

Hi John

Is the Custom Card Camaro the car entered by Tony Antonievich?

Also is the Coppins Firebird racing as I don`t see it on the entry list?

Overall the entries are quite healthy which suggests there is much merit in these 1 day events.

Roll on Saturday.

Anthony

Only static display as it was mid way through yet another redo on various parts.

Bruce.

[John McKechnie]

Anthony-Tony Antonievich has entered the Custom Card Camaro and will be racing it in HSS.
One day racing is easier on peoples plans, it means there is another day to get things done in the weekend.
Also a simple test race day to get things right for MG at Manfield next month.
We are very grateful to TACCOC for continuing to support the Historics and the Sports Sedans as they did at Whenuapei last century.

[ERC]

We polled our drivers John, and there was quite a mix of preferences - 2 day, Saturday or Sunday 1 day. Least popular was Saturday 1 dayers as many were working, had family/sport commitments and so on.

Single day events for me were a nightmare with trying to handicap two classes and also compete.

Two day events suit those who like to relax, chat and stay overnight, but many hate hanging about with just two runs per day.

One day events, just six classes, 2 day events, maybe 12 classes. So we always tried to run a mix each season and also factor in Pukekkohe, Taupo & Hampton Downs, to make the series worthwhile.

[John McKechnie]

Ray- I was asked to poll every driver...my time has no value as we all know...for all possible events for the coming summer.
This Saturday meeting rated well, for the reasons above----MG next month.
The TACCOC day on Sunday early December had 4 people- not enough for a class...but if the car is a Schedule K with Historic Sports Sedan stickers in the correct place- top of drivers door- then Dale will allow them if his grid allows.

[Andrew Metford]

Send me an email Andrew and I will forward it to you

bruced105@gmail.com

Thank you Bruce. Email sent.

[John McKechnie]

Andrew- will be great photo session for the cars- 3 Coppins race cars together plus Custom Card Camaro-just like 1975. Invited other cars from that period as well. but.......

[touringcarfan]

Only static display as it was mid way through yet another redo on various parts.

Bruce.

Thanks Bruce302 for replying. Do you plan to race the car once finished?

Anthony Sampson

[touringcarfan]

Anthony-Tony Antonievich has entered the Custom Card Camaro and will be racing it in HSS.
One day racing is easier on peoples plans, it means there is another day to get things done in the weekend.
Also a simple test race day to get things right for MG at Manfield next month.
We are very grateful to TACCOC for continuing to support the Historics and the Sports Sedans as they did at Whenuapei last century.

Thanks for replying John. Is there a chance we could get the 3 cars grouped out on the front stretch for photos?

Anthony Sampson

[John McKechnie]

They will be close to garage 27.
I will work out tomorrow where this photo opportunity wont be in the way of the event.
You wont miss these cars.

[Bruce302]

Thanks Bruce302 for replying. Do you plan to race the car once finished?

Anthony Sampson

It will be on the track one day, and it may look like racing.

'Old guys in old cars having fun' type action.

Bruce.

[John McKechnie]

And that is what this Saturday and Historics are all about - Old guys in old cars having fun' type action.
We dont do racing such as was seen at Bathurst last weekend.
The Team Cambridge Monaro will be out on the track and it may look like racing.......alternative is sitting on display.
I sure as hell dont want this car ending up in the wall from a racing incident like my XA Coupe.
These cars are priceless to us

[touringcarfan]

The racing is not so important...seeing these cars out there is what counts. They have the Heritage Hot Lap sessions at Muscle Car Masters and we could seriously adopt that concept here. The cars might be travelling at 70 - 80% of their potential but everyone gets to enjoy the spectacle and memories are made...or relived in some instances. Happy days!

Anthony Sampson

[Rod Grimwood]

And that is what this Saturday and Historics are all about - Old guys in old cars having fun' type action.
We dont do racing such as was seen at Bathurst last weekend.
The Team Cambridge Monaro will be out on the track and it may look like racing.......alternative is sitting on display.
I sure as hell dont want this car ending up in the wall from a racing incident like my XA Coupe.
These cars are priceless to us

Keep the right cars/drivers in class and it will be all good John. I noticed guys giving room and I did same in return especially when quick boys came on scene, its easy, mirror, hold line.

[John McKechnie]

Manfeild- please remember that all entries must be submitted and paid for in full by the 20 th October.
Yes , only 5 days to go.
Late entries may be accepted, extra $40 though, this is a Cancer Trust donation, not for club coffers.

Also the garaging there- this from Bruce
*We are without cancellation full, but there is space in the middle on the grit.*
Owing to increase interest we are exploring accommodating more cars, will know more tomorrow.

[John McKechnie]

Entries so far for MG Manfeild next month-

7 -Peter Hooper........Starlet.
8 -Dennis Running....Mazda RX8.
16 -Wayne Baxter......VK Commodore Lite- Peter Brock ran this
49 -John Rush...........Escort V8.
50 -Robert Bartley.....Custaxie 2
59 -John McKechnie...Monaro.
68 -Roger Davis........SLR 5000
69 -Jon Telford..........Maxda RX8.
70 -Michael Johnston..Scarab V8
72 -Robert Jack.........Escort V8.
77 -Neil Deighton.......Chavenger.
83 -Bruce Thompson...XA Coupe.
93 -Mark Allen............Firenza V8.
104 -Craig Stacey........Breadvan
112 -Marvyn Towers.....MGB V8
118 -Graham Barnes....Capri V8.
302 -Bruce Goodwin.....MK 3 V8
Cam Neil..............1939 Chev Coupe V8
Murray Park will enter the Marina, just working on the gear change mechanism

Looks like its going to be a great pack with the Breadvan as absolutely hot favourite
Michael Johnstons 2 dr Avenger is currently having the gearbox done, he is wanting to bring it up.

[John McKechnie]

Looking at the grid takes me back to what Habu said way, way back 22 April 2013- 4 years ago-


"The whole ethos of this class is to get these fantastic cars out there, and circulating for the enjoyment of ownership firstly, and for the enjoyment of spectators as well!

To be honest, as a spectator I cant tell 100% accuracy compared to when a car ran back in its heyday..... As long as the vehicle is a reasonably close representation of how it ran all those years ago will be enough for me to want to go and watch."

I hope he and all car lovers enjoy next month at Manfield

[Kiwiboss]

As long as the vehicle is a reasonably close representation of how it ran all those years ago will be enough for me to want to go and watch."

Ooooh Dangerous territory here..............

[rogered]

Ooooh Dangerous territory here..............

Its a tricky one, however If we were to eliminate every car that was not period correct, we are left with an Orange Monaro, and a Blue Charger. and thats no good for any body. So common sense means we need to make compromises. This allows us to present a good grid , people get to run their cars, and everybody is generally happy.

[Bruce302]

Its a tricky one, however If we were to eliminate every car that was not period correct, we are left with an Orange Monaro, and a Blue Charger. and thats no good for any body. So common sense means we need to make compromises. This allows us to present a good grid , people get to run their cars, and everybody is generally happy.

With all due respect it seems to be a class of rag tag misfits and ne'er do well's, some with no where else to go, my self included, but from what I have seen each and every one of them seem to enjoy themselves and have a load of fun. That's a bull's eye.

B.

[Kiwiboss]

With all due respect it seems to be a class of rag tag misfits and ne'er do well's, some with no where else to go, my self included, but from what I have seen each and every one of them seem to enjoy themselves and have a load of fun. That's a bull's eye.

B.

Well that's all well and fine their Bruce I have no problem with that, so now its not "Historic Sports Sedans" anymore......I believe a name change should be in order to correct the fit and look of the grid then...................maybe "Rag Tag All-Comers" suits?

[John McKechnie]

Reading Bruces comment, I understand the description to be of the people, not the cars.
Those of us who have a COD with H on our cars know we are entitled to call our cars Historic.
And as our class name states we can extend an Invitation

[Spgeti]

Entries so far for MG Manfeild next month-

7 -Peter Hooper........Starlet.
8 -Dennis Running....Mazda RX8.
16 -Wayne Baxter......VK Commodore Lite- Peter Brock ran this
49 -John Rush...........Escort V8.
50 -Robert Bartley.....Custaxie 2
59 -John McKechnie...Monaro.
68 -Roger Davis........SLR 5000
69 -Jon Telford..........Maxda RX8.
70 -Michael Johnston..Scarab V8
72 -Robert Jack.........Escort V8.
77 -Neil Deighton.......Chavenger.
83 -Bruce Thompson...XA Coupe.
93 -Mark Allen............Firenza V8.
104 -Craig Stacey........Breadvan
112 -Marvyn Towers.....MGB V8
118 -Graham Barnes....Capri V8.
302 -Bruce Goodwin.....MK 3 V8
Cam Neil..............1939 Chev Coupe V8
Murray Park will enter the Marina, just working on the gear change mechanism

Looks like its going to be a great pack with the Breadvan as absolutely hot favourite
Michael Johnstons 2 dr Avenger is currently having the gearbox done, he is wanting to bring it up.

So out of this list of entrants, which ones have the “H” on them and let’s not include your Monaro which technically should not be in this group.
Why is the Addis Charger not at any of your events, is it because the field isn’t up to standard for it to come out.
Yes there are some really good cars in this group but it is ruined by some that just don’t cut the mustard.

Better off to have a reduced correct grid. Quality v’s Quantity...

[rogered]

Hi Bruce
The charger popped a transmission last time out. A new Hewland is circa ,$40,000. That may be why, but graham will be able to advise.
Which cars on the entry list would you wish culled out
Cheers

[Spgeti]

Hi Bruce
The charger popped a transmission last time out. A new Hewland is circa ,$40,000. That may be why, but graham will be able to advise.
Which cars on the entry list would you wish culled out
Cheers

I will send you a PM Roger

[Frosty5]

59 -John McKechnie...Monaro.
83 -Bruce Thompson...XA Coupe.
104 -Craig Stacey........Breadvan
Just my thoughts
Cheers Dave

[touringcarfan]

I am not sure what the real issue is here. Possibly the use of the word `historic`? How many genuine cars do we have in HMC and HSC...maybe a similar number to what HSS has? The simple truth is a significant number of cars in HMC and HSC are cars built to the regulations that were in use at the time...so not exactly a full grid of cars with genuine history. Why should this be any different for HSS? And I don`t exactly see the regs of the time for Allcomers and Sports Sedans as being as concise as what HMC and HSC can work to.

Anthony Sampson

[Spgeti]

You are correct Anthony.
It is where the divisions of the groups are and that HMC/HSC have set regulations to maintain a standard.
HSC is more historically correct than HMC.
HMC incorporates some parts that are modern but are still in the same theme as what they were in period but are more reliable that the older hard to get original.
The issue is keeping the grids with in the meaning of what they were meant to be and not to devalue that grid.

For example the Breadvan should be in HSS as it is a genuine period All Comer.
The XA Falcon is an HMC vehicle and the Monaro is a HSC vehicle due to its history.
It is the owners right where they race their car but it is the public’s perception of what they see and other perspective car owners that may want to join the groups of which group suits their car.

We must all support each other.

Cheers
Bruce

[ERC]

We must all support each other.
Spot on. There are several cars which are eligible for more than one group and on a two day weekend particularly, many drivers just don't like hanging about all day for just two track sessions.

From a spectator's point of view, or photographer's point of view, that is to be encouraged, as small grids do no-one any favours.

ERC works hand in hand with Alfa Trofeo, even to ensuring no overlap of numbers and there are also ERC cars in HMC, HSC and HSS and BMW.

That means that those with CoD's have more choices of grids and that is the bonus of a CoD.

ERC a long time ago, along with Alfa, found far too many issues with some aspects of the CoD system that would eliminate far too many cars. Despite a comprehensive analysis and raft of suggestions that would have brought far more cars under the CoD umbrella, but still give each group the power to tighten up where required, many of those suggestions were rejected, so both groups elected to run their own rules - which still accept CoD compliant cars. I believe the same applies to BMW and these three very healthy groups still supply the bulk of cars at most local meetings.

[touringcarfan]

You are correct Anthony.
It is where the divisions of the groups are and that HMC/HSC have set regulations to maintain a standard.
HSC is more historically correct than HMC.
HMC incorporates some parts that are modern but are still in the same theme as what they were in period but are more reliable that the older hard to get original.
The issue is keeping the grids with in the meaning of what they were meant to be and not to devalue that grid.

For example the Breadvan should be in HSS as it is a genuine period All Comer.
The XA Falcon is an HMC vehicle and the Monaro is a HSC vehicle due to its history.
It is the owners right where they race their car but it is the public’s perception of what they see and other perspective car owners that may want to join the groups of which group suits their car.

We must all support each other.

Cheers
Bruce

Hi Bruce

Now I see where you are going with this...and I totally agree with your point regarding the Monaro and Falcon. I always assumed that this situation was to help John with grid sizes and that this scenario might change in the future as numbers increased.

Thanks
Anthony

[Spgeti]

I want to make it very clear, we the Directors of HMC/HSC support John in all his efforts in building HSS.
He has done an amazing job and I know he is totally dedicated to his group.

Cheers
Bruce

[touringcarfan]

The trick for all these groups is how to achieve consistent appearances from those competitors that state they will support the various race groups...I bet all groups have been let down in this respect. Oh well...roll on Manfeild.

Anthony

[Rod Grimwood]

mmm, COD sounds confusing to me. Not sure what to do with my car, It been Shellsport, Sports Sedan, Club Car all by fairly simple changing of some body work, gearbox and wheels. Actually ran as Sport Sedan and Clubman at couple meetings by quick change of boot/wing and springs between races. will make decision closer to time. got 3 different boots/ spoilers wings etc. for what it ran in. different suspension/springs etc as well. better stop i am confusing myself.

John has done great job in getting cars onto grid, personally I feel if it looks like a Sport Sedan (something with something else big jammed in it) and the main thing is people enjoy themselves, then go for it.
Original Sports Sedan rules back in early 80 etc stated stock engine block, mods free, well there were a few blocks that a magnet would not stick too. actually couple of them still running now. cost and reliability is the main thing for most, and lets be real, technology from the 80s too now has changed a little bit with more reliabilty. (not handgrenades as Mr Palmer and Oxton called them on live TV) Feel the name is covered by 'Historic and Invited' so behave and you may be invited.

in list above, only Scarab V8 and MGB V8 have ? mark, only because back in Sports Sedan days they/that kind did not run in class and ran in Sports Cars. All other models ran. But as mentioned earlier, times have changed and if they fit and invited then sweet.
Before you charge into me, yes I know there was a Porche and Corvette in SS, they were invited.
Get on with racing guys and gals and enjoy.

[Paul B]

Great time this weekend at Manfield for the MG Classic meeting, great turn out of cars
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[Paul B]

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[Bruce302]

Great shots Paul, what a neat variety of cars and colours. So good to see them back on the track together.
Thanks,

B.

[Bruce302]

And that's Brent Bullivant standing next to his old Capri (now 118 Graham Barnes driven) in post # 1095

[Milan Fistonic]

From Manfeild last weelend.

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[Bruce302]

Hi Milan, sorry we missed you at the weekend. I must make better meeting arrangements next time.

Bruce.

[Steve Holmes]

And that's Brent Bullivant standing next to his old Capri (now 118 Graham Barnes driven) in post # 1095

Did anyone ask his opinion on the Capri? He was very young when he built it, still a teenager. Obviously a really talented guy, but was heavily under-funded.

[Bruce302]

Did anyone ask his opinion on the Capri? He was very young when he built it, still a teenager. Obviously a really talented guy, but was heavily under-funded.

We had drinks with Brent and spoke at length about the car and his builds, there were 3 iterations, improving as it went along until it was the tubed car it is now. Obviously yellow would be nice but it is what it is. Brent was working with Jim Richards at the time and later he went across to Australia and worked with Jim again for about 3 years, his efforts were partly responsible for the success of the big Falcon coupe that Jim ran as well as other cars. Real nice guy and has a great memory.

[Steve Holmes]

We had drinks with Brent and spoke at length about the car and his builds, there were 3 iterations, improving as it went along until it was the tubed car it is now. Obviously yellow would be nice but it is what it is. Brent was working with Jim Richards at the time and later he went across to Australia and worked with Jim again for about 3 years, his efforts were partly responsible for the success of the big Falcon coupe that Jim ran as well as other cars. Real nice guy and has a great memory.

Yes thats right Bruce, it started off with a Ford motor before switching to SBC. I think it first appeared in 1975, and evolved until 1979. By this time Brent was working for Richards. I know when Richards raced the Falcon hardtop in NZ in early 1979 in the Open Saloon series, Brent was both preparing the Falcon and racing his Capri in the same series. There is a photo somewhere on this site of the Falcon in NZ and with "Prepared By Brent Bullivant" listed on the door.

Would have been interesting to see what he could have achieved with a healthy budget. I believe his tyres were four year old hand-me-downs.

[Bruce302]

Yes thats right Bruce, it started off with a Ford motor before switching to SBC. I think it first appeared in 1975, and evolved until 1979. By this time Brent was working for Richards. I know when Richards raced the Falcon hardtop in NZ in early 1979 in the Open Saloon series, Brent was both preparing the Falcon and racing his Capri in the same series. There is a photo somewhere on this site of the Falcon in NZ and with "Prepared By Brent Bullivant" listed on the door.

Would have been interesting to see what he could have achieved with a healthy budget. I believe his tyres were four year old hand-me-downs.

Brent got Jim's cast off tyres, so they were definitely used. The SBC was from Dexter Dunlop's F5000.

B.

[John McKechnie]

"Would have been interesting to see what he could have achieved with a healthy budget. I believe his tyres were four year old hand-me-downs."

Brent told me the car owed him $45,000 back in mid 70s ,-that was a healthy amount back then.
he sold it as it was a one way money pit.
Not a cent of that was spent on tyres.
And he was rapt to see his old Capri running with Bunces (Team Cambridge ) old Monaro in the weekend, and remembers the last time they were on the track together was April 1975 at the Paul Fahey Flying Farewell

[Paul B]

$45000 back then was 2 decent houses! Someone said after a few years had past they could have bought it for $5000 less engine.
Whole lota car there. Brent is a really clever guy, it was great to listen to his story.

[John McKechnie]

A mans greatest fear is that his wife will sell his car for what he told her it owes him.......sound familiar Paul ?

[Bruce302]

Robin Tanner was telling me today about a guy racing back in the mid 70's, English car, Chev powered, owed him $ 30 K, but was still slower than the $ 12 K Firebird Robin was running. The other guy persevered, spent more money but didn't get any faster.

That would not be an isolated story.

B.

[John McKechnie]

If you do it in your early life, thats OK.
Its only when you do it in your 60s, that you start to worry if you have actually learned anything in your lifetime

J

[Kiwiboss]

$45000 back then was 2 decent houses! Someone said after a few years had past they could have bought it for $5000 less engine.
Whole lota car there. Brent is a really clever guy, it was great to listen to his story.

We all only come this way but once, good on him for doing it while still young..............and now he's a bit of a legend. Dale M

[Paul B]

A mans greatest fear is that his wife will sell his car for what he told her it owes him.......sound familiar Paul ?

And the moral of the story is: Always tell your wife what your race car will be worth when its finished and what a great money making investment it is..... Tui add?

[rogered]

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[John McKechnie]

Great pic Roger---what year?
Steve Pearson with his Renault - 81.
Looks like Jen Mossman in front-28.
Whose the hidden red car?

This from Roger-The rear comer of the commodore you see is the Mack Workman, Lindsay Willis built Commodore.

[John McKechnie]

In relation to Red Renny, this from a memory-

The Rimp -Imp with twin turbo engine-was crashed heavily at Taupo, then fixed, , and then a huge crash at turn 1 at puke, then dumped,
all the mechanicals put into Red Renny Renault body.
That was later crashed (not sure where, taupo or baypark ??) and pretty sure it was dumped,
and then he built the rover.

[rogered]

maybe 1989 ish
yes Steve Pearson in the renault,
cant recall the datsun Coupe,
Jennifer, in likely the first Run in the ex Brett Willis Smith Steel Commodore, as it retains the VK front at this stage.

[John McKechnie]

Red Renny-
Hi l had a big crash at Bay Park back I'm the day the v8 motor went in a stock car some parts in the Rover some I still have the Bent up body I stored for years then dumped cheers Steve

So looks like Red Renny is gone and not up for restoration.

[John McKechnie]

Our next event for our long hot summer season is Taupo F5000 Historic Grand Prix and Tourist Trophy Meeting.
Entry forms are now being send out to all our drivers and need to be in by Dec 22
January 20 , 21, with Friday being a fun practice day- not part of the event itself.
We all remember how neat it was at Taupo in April with our first visit and look forward to another fun event.
This is Wellington Anniversary Weekend - so make it a long one.
Good places to stay..if you need more info -contact me, but get in early as this is Taupo in Summertime

In appreciation of the distance drivers have to travel to race, Taupo have a ZERO entrance fee.
Thank you Chris Abbot and his Team for this wonderful offer.

[John McKechnie]

interesting project here-
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/vintage-parts/other/auction-1478262398.htm?rsqid=7KhRcMlMx0G3sqPgwMX3hw

ex barry vujk sunbeam stiletto........look great in our feild

[seaqnmac27]

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[seaqnmac27]

interesting project here-
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/vintage-parts/other/auction-1478262398.htm?rsqid=7KhRcMlMx0G3sqPgwMX3hw

ex barry vujk sunbeam stiletto........look great in our feild

It would, but theres no Chassis/body... from my understanding.

Here it is driven by Bryan Bate in January 82
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[rogered]

It would, but theres no Chassis/body... from my understanding.

Here it is driven by Bryan Bate in January 82
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Go back to this thread, and this tells the rest of the story

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?72-Lost-Race-Cars/page19

[SPS]

In relation to Red Renny, this from a memory-

The Rimp -Imp with twin turbo engine-was crashed heavily at Taupo, then fixed, , and then a huge crash at turn 1 at puke, then dumped,
all the mechanicals put into Red Renny Renault body.
That was later crashed (not sure where, taupo or baypark ??) and pretty sure it was dumped,
and then he built the rover.

Crashed at Baypark heading onto the back straight

[seaqnmac27]

Go back to this thread, and this tells the rest of the story

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?72-Lost-Race-Cars/page19

Hi Roger, there has been more told on this since then. I will find the details.

[Paul Wilkinson]

Hi Roger, there has been more told on this since then. I will find the details.


The way I heard it is that it sat under a hedge for a while before the Impwerks guy (Brian Bradshaw?) bought it. I was told he stripped it and dumped the carcass as he felt it was beyond repair. Some years ago he had a Stiletto body on Trademe and was advertising that he could turn it into a replica/rebuild if a client with suitably deep pockets wanted....

[seaqnmac27]

The way I heard it is that it sat under a hedge for a while before the Impwerks guy (Brian Bradshaw?) bought it. I was told he stripped it and dumped the carcass as he felt it was beyond repair. Some years ago he had a Stiletto body on Trademe and was advertising that he could turn it into a replica/rebuild if a client with suitably deep pockets wanted....

Yes you are right Paul, I reviewed the article and images and that is exactly as per Russ Cunninghams comments as per Roger's comment. The thing for me, as I said back then, I have a familial connection with this car as my uncle was mechanic for Bryan Bate and Nev Brickley. He helped Bryan and Bob Homewood change the power plant

[Paul B]

Manfield 12 Nov 2017
Reunited at the race track again, last time together was April 1975.
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[John McKechnie]

Just a reminder to all HSSIA and other drivers competing at a National event of new clothing safety rule, all competitors will have been notified by MSNZ email of this last year.-

HMC/HSC newsletter-
*As of the 1st April 2018 the clothing standards for racing have been updated.
Please check this now and make sure that all your clothing is compliant with the new regulations. All our races come under National Race...not club.
Of special note is the regulation on race suits and undergarments which are now compulsory. Socks must be mid-calf, and undergarments full sleeve and long legs. No tee shirts or shorts.
Our last race meeting of the season is on the 7th April and the new regulations will be in force so please make sure that you have this sorted as you can believe it will be checked by the scrutineers*

So scants ,briefs,thongs, budgie smugglers will now NOT be acceptable as underwear, or the only thing you can wear under a one piece race suit.

Under a one piece race suit must be long-johns, and upper torso must be waist to neck, wrist to wrist--.
Effectively 2 layers now.
No synthetics allowed, check for materials detail in MSNZ rule book-

https://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/default/files/motorsport/manual/Live%2035%20App%202.01%20Sch%20A_0.pdf

So do not roll up to Taupo without these as the scrutineers will be wanting to see them.

I am so glad it is not the group coodinators Responsibility and Liability to do a personal check on each driver to make sure they comply..........

[Alan Hyndman]

Just a reminder to all HSSIA and other drivers competing at a National event of new clothing safety rule, all competitors will have been notified by MSNZ email of this last year.-

HMC/HSC newsletter-
*As of the 1st April 2018 the clothing standards for racing have been updated.
Please check this now and make sure that all your clothing is compliant with the new regulations. All our races come under National Race...not club.
Of special note is the regulation on race suits and undergarments which are now compulsory. Socks must be mid-calf, and undergarments full sleeve and long legs. No tee shirts or shorts.
Our last race meeting of the season is on the 7th April and the new regulations will be in force so please make sure that you have this sorted as you can believe it will be checked by the scrutineers*

So scants ,briefs,thongs, budgie smugglers will now NOT be acceptable as underwear, or the only thing you can wear under a one piece race suit.

Under a one piece race suit must be long-johns, and upper torso must be waist to neck, wrist to wrist--.
Effectively 2 layers now.
No synthetics allowed, check for materials detail in MSNZ rule book-

https://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/default/files/motorsport/manual/Live%2035%20App%202.01%20Sch%20A_0.pdf

So do not roll up to Taupo without these as the scrutineers will be wanting to see them.

I am so glad it is not the group coodinators Responsibility and Liability to do a personal check on each driver to make sure they comply..........

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Hi John and others,

Please be aware that MSNZ issued Manual Amendment 35105 on 25 Jan 2018 stating that "Garments (underwear) manufactured to this standard in a ‘short sleeved and/or ‘short pant’’ version can be accepted" - this is applicable for all levels of competition in New Zealand EXCEPT FOR Premier Championship Races and Championship Rallies.

The manual amendment can be viewed here:
http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/default/files/motorsport/manual/amendments/35105 Sch A clothing Amendment.pdf

Chicane Racewear sell both long and short versions here:
http://www.chicane.co.nz/products.asp?CategoryID=4

In case this suggests that I'm directing competitors towards Chicane, Harris Race Radios sell compliant underwear too (it complies with the top level requirements but costs a bit more than the Chicane products):
http://www.freemracewear.co.nz/nomex-fireproof-set.html

Remember that you still need to buy the clothing that complies - this amendment does not make your brand new 100% cotton tee shirt and boxers acceptable.

Cheers,
Alan Hyndman.

[John McKechnie]

Item 1-
Underwear-
Garments
designed to be
worn between the
overall and
wearer’s body
entirely covering
the wearer except
for head, hands and feet

Am I blind as I see nothing here that Alan says about short clothing.
Please attach quote , NOT where to find it

[ERC]

(4) SFI 3.2A/1˂ means SFI Quality Assurance Specifications 3.2A/1 and 3.2@A/3. The SFI 3.2A Spec label will be found on the left arm or the collar

(5) All cotton garments must have a manufacturer label stating 100% Cotton (No ‘Spandex or Synthetics).

(6) Garments manufactured to this standard in a ‘short sleeved and/or ‘short pant’’ version can be accepted.

From the amendment quoted John.

As a former 50% owner of Chicane for ten years (2000 - 2010), please note that buying from a reputable dealer is crucial. There have been several instances of counterfeit suits being sold, which has had major negative repercussions for genuine FIA approved NZ and Australian manufacturers. When your own label is copied by some underhand individuals, not manufactured to the same high quality standards, lives are put at risk.

Getting FIA approval is a very protracted and expensive process and for a company the size of Chicane, which on a world scale is very small, there are no economies of scale in manufacturing. If you see this as a plug for Chicane, fine, but with over 30 years in the NZ clothing trade, I'm passionate about local manufacturing whenever possible.

As an aside, race suits are NOT fireproof. They are fire resistant only - and for a limited amount of time.

[John McKechnie]

Ray and Alan Hyndman ....thank you for this ,
and it will be quoted to the scrutineers and hopefully the CAN be accepted will become WILL be accepted.
All I want is no surprises for my drivers on the day.

[John McKechnie]

Hot off the press.......
Gordon Burr and his Alfetta have just completed 15 consecutive laps in testing at Taupo today...... with no gearbox problems

[John McKechnie]

I have just spoken to Technical Dept at MSNZ and they have said-
MSNZ online manual- Schedule A Car and Driver safety.-

As from 1 April, Ammendment 35105 page 1
1- Balaclavas must be worn at our National meetings.
2-Gloves must be worn at these meetings.
3 -Sox to mid calf.
4- Short sleeved shirt,,short pants can be accepted
As ours is B, then all these in must be to-
a-SFI 3.3
b-ISA 69/40

[John McKechnie]

This weekend at Taupo the Historic Sports Sedans and Invited Allcomers are having their last run for the Summer.
Gordon Burr.........................Alfetta V8
Robert Jack.........................Escort V8
Dennis Running...................Mazda RX8.
Roger Davis........................Torana SLR5000.
Neil Deighton......................Chavenger.
Bruce Goodwin...................Mk111 Zephyr V8.
Jamie Coyle-Bennenbroek...Torana XU1 V8.
Bruce Thompson................Falcon XA Coupe.
John McKechnie.................Team Cambridge Monaro.
Richard Quin......................Ex Crowe Starlet.
Peter Hooper......................Shellsport Starlet.
Cam Neil...........................1939 Chev Coupe.

Up for grabs will be our annual Barry Algie Memorial Trophy. and , like our Historic racing, is not awarded for performance.
We welcome everybody to share and enjoy a wonderful weekend.
And of course we are running with our fellow Historics- HMC/HSC.
Its been a tough season for many, however this field will be rewarding to watch and be in.

The great news is that the ex Ian Algie Alfetta Milodon V8 will be there and running.
Gordy has completed 15 laps of testing

[Andrew Metford]

So I saw a little video clip tonight, of a Charger being fired up today for the first time in a while after a bit of work. Looking forward to seeing it back on the track soon.

[John McKechnie]

Hi Everyone-
here are the current entries for Taupo April 27,28., our last race of the season
A great field and we welcome Angus Fogg stepping up from his boulevard cruiser Mustang into a real,purpose built Italian race car.
There are 4 X 6 lap races ,as 3 X 8 is too hard on the brakes and requires carrying a bigger fuel load.
More opportunities though for the minnows like Neil Deighton, Darcy May and my self to come through to win a handicap.
A big welcome to all who are going to visit us , we hope you will enjoy the show.

Gordon Burr Matamata Ford Escort 1968
Roger Davis hamilton east Holden Torana SLR 5000 1976
Neil Deighton Mangaweka Hilman Chavenger 1974
Angus Fogg Auckland Alfa Romeo Alfetta V8 1974
Peter Hooper Auckland Toyota Starlet 1982
Robert Jack Tauranga Ford Escort 1979
Darcy May New Plymouth Ford Consul 315 1963
John McKechnie Auckland Holden Team Cambridge Monaro 1968
Campbell NEILL TURANGI Chevrolet 39 Coup'e 1939
Graeme Park Katikati morris marina coupe 1974
Bruce Thompson Auckland Ford XA Coupe 1973
Paul Tulloch Wanganui Ford Custaxie TBA
Roger Williams Auckland Chevrolet Monza 1975

[Spgeti]

Great Grid John. Good to see Angus in the Alfetta. He will need to brush up on his Italian so he can communicate with the Italian part of it....

[ERC]

if that is Gordon's Alfetta, I hope he is OK. Lovely man.

[John McKechnie]

if that is Gordon's Alfetta, I hope he is OK. Lovely man.

Ray,,,the first name on the list is that Lovely man will be driving his V8 Escort...will you be there this weekend?

[ERC]

Whoops, missed that John! Sorry, no I won't be there. No doubt Nigel will do the honours. Well done for another good field.

[John McKechnie]

Great Grid John. Good to see Angus in the Alfetta. He will need to brush up on his Italian so he can communicate with the Italian part of it....

he is already in touch with the English part of the car-Lucas Prince of Darkness fuel injection- with a Border Collie,Cooper S and enjoys a warm beer.
We will give him some personal space of 2m to allow for Italian air talk with his hands

[Spgeti]

There’s no help for him then if he likes warm beer.....

[ERC]

Even we English don't like warm beer! Don't care much for beer anyway, being a cider drinker...

[Roger Dowding]

Even we English don't like warm beer! Don't care much for beer anyway, being a cider drinker...

" Ahh!! Just come up from Somerset where the Cider Apples grow " - to be said in the correct regional accent of course ".

[Growler]

Found this on Facebook. Haven't seen this number of cars in a long time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hdFmbpXmBk&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1gbK_KIfgdmbqioFZAITpVvHvmKZcu-bQxyFOp5BB7Mwl3-FqGRJYGq9E

[Oldfart]

That was an engine blow!!!!

[John McKechnie]

So ,, who was declared the eventual winner after the final discussion at the caravan?

[Andrew Metford]

50 days to race day. To quote Big Kev, "I'm excited!!"

[John McKechnie]

50 days to race day. To quote Big Kev, "I'm excited!!"

Yep. November 3 Sunday at Pukekohe, TACCOC are hosting us.
Then 2 weeks later MG Manfeild- November15-15.
Invitations were sent out to members today.
This guys feeling the excitement also

[Andrew Metford]

In-car video from the first scratch race at MG Manfield 2019 on the Saturday. Only David's second meeting in the car, still a lot of issues to sort out........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpvN7ey-APU&t=25s

[ERC]

Well done David. Tidy drive. Your Dad brought me up to date yesterday.

[Growler]

Found this gem today...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou47qha5j6A&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR01u6UUozHiZ0bjxdD5bPijTCc46PMLpJlDskqaap71HpuJHGMx4xd7kvA

[Spgeti]

Well as some of you may be aware that unfortunately John McKechnie resigned from the Secretary’s duties, Committee and the group earlier this year.
Bruce Thompson stood in until a replacement could be found to help Historic Sports Sedans Club move forward.

The other week Roger Williams put his hand up and after a Committee Meeting last weekend he was elected Chairman and Bruce Dyer elected Secretary.

The remaining committee consists of,

Jennifer Mossman, Treasurer,
Roger Davis, Eligibility Officer,
Club Captain, Adrian Dobbe,
Race Coordinator, Graeme Park,
Lower North Island Rep, Graham Barnes.

I realise that some of the members are on this forum and we will soon be advising of an AGM but in the meantime we would like to hear from anyone who has a car that they think is compliant to contact me.

We are also in the planning stages of a programme of race meetings for this coming season and would like as much support as possible.
Planned Meetings are..

MG Classic, Manfeild in November
Taupo Historic GP, January.
Legends of Speed, HD, March.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Cheers
Bruce

[Keith844]

https://youtu.be/Y-e_WABDV7s

Bob Hyslop's triple rotor RX7

[Keith844]

Angus Fogg driving the Ian Algie Alfetta at Manfeild last year


https://youtu.be/jMxR9QSuAEg

[Steve Holmes]

Wow, so neat to see the Alfetta being driven like that. Its just one of my all-time favorite race cars. Thanks for sharing Keith.


Angus Fogg driving the Ian Algie Alfetta at Manfeild last year


https://youtu.be/jMxR9QSuAEg