Historic Sport Sedans

[nigel watts]

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[Rod Grimwood]

Great photos Nigel, thanks for all your hard work and also for sharing with us. Love the old Bay park shot, history there.
Also to all the other people who have shared photos on this site, thank you.

[George Sheweiry]

bloody hell Nigel, those photos are fantastic, so clear and defined, we are so lucky to have you and all the other photographers on here, its just brilliant eye candy!!!

[nigel watts]

bloody hell Nigel, those photos are fantastic, so clear and defined, we are so lucky to have you and all the other photographers on here, its just brilliant eye candy!!!

I'm sure I speak for all the photographers when I say it's our pleasure - you drive the cars & we'll take the photos.

[nigel watts]

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[TonyG]

Oh no ! What happened?

[nigel watts]

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[bry3500]

Great photos Nigel - Past and Present . many thanks for sharing

[John McKechnie]

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Here another one from the past that is still with us.
This is a Rover SD1 with Chev 355.
In this pic it is followed by Phil Schubert and Roger Davis.
Dont know which track it is, though it could be old small track at Taupo as he used to race there
Steve Pearson is another proud guy who built the car, raced it and still owns it 25 years later.
He also built, before this one, a Renault with a Rover V8 in it. but damaged in very badly at Bay Park- will be posting pics on this when I get them.
He has been following the HSS class ,was at both Historic weekends and likes what this class is about- having fun showing these cars on the track.
We look forward to when it comes out to play

[CUSTAXIE50]

Last time I saw this car was at Manfeild,I have a number of photos of this car.

[John McKechnie]

CUSTAXIE50-
would love to have those pics on here.
Can you post or would you like me to put them up?
Please pm me if needed

[Spgeti]

The Rover looks like a cool car John.....looking forward to some pics , Cheers, Bruce

[John McKechnie]

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OK, Bruce, you like it and want some more..............
And I would say that is Bob Hyslop and his RX7 following

[CUSTAXIE50]

CUSTAXIE50-
would love to have those pics on here.
Can you post or would you like me to put them up?
Please pm me if needed I have 4 photos of this car,the best one is of the engine bay, will see what I can do.

[John McKechnie]

Great, looking forward to these ones, as I had no knowledge of this car until Richard Quinn told me last Sunday

[John McKechnie]

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Jon Telford has very kindly given me some pics of his earlier Sports Sedan days,before he got the RX7 .Here he is leading the pack at the old Taupo track in his Starlet- man these Starlets get around.
There will be more to come, one each day.
Big thanks to Jon for these -he really knows what this class is about and wants the fans to share these.

[SSharp]

Just want to jump in here with a quick question, I have a friend with a Rover V8 powered RX3 which came from the south Island and was originally put together for OSCA, or something like that I believe.
I think the car was built in the late 80's or Early 90's.
Would he be welcome on this grid? and If so, then who should he get in touch with?
He needs to be nudged along a bit!

[John McKechnie]

If the car was built to a set of rules back then- for example OSCA-, has a log book from back then and still runs period/ acceptable period equipment, then , subject to confirmation, he can run with us .
He would be welcomed on the grid by fellow competitors for having a period car and spectators who may remember this car or who want to see another genuine car from that time
Bottom line I am your man for point of contact, and we have are running March 29,30 at Legends of Speed ,Hampton Downs.

[tonttu]

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Jon Telford has very kindly given me some pics of his earlier Sports Sedan days,before he got the RX7 .Here he is leading the pack at the old Taupo track in his Starlet- man these Starlets get around.
There will be more to come, one each day.
Big thanks to Jon for these -he really knows what this class is about and wants the fans to share these.

John these old pictures are fantastic but can you or others identify the other drivers please and the year. Thanks for your continued enthusiasm and contributions, hugely appreciated.

[John McKechnie]

tonttu- will try my best here.
When- would be 2000-2001.
Where- old Taupo track.
Usual suspects-
Jon Telford in blue Starlet.
Roger Davis in his red Torana.
Graeme Barnes in the green Capri
Yellow car- has ST badge on the grille,can someone help here?
Brendon Motors has its name on these cars screen banners.
Campanella Confectionari is the screen banner of another years series will post these later.

[TonyG]

Where did this little Starlet end up John? That is the same Capri (Green) that is now Red is it not? Looks like the ones in this years pics from the Festival. I like it in the green if it is the same. :)

Cheers
Tony

[John McKechnie]

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This could be from the same race weekend.
Steve Pearson, originally from Dannevirk, close behind our Jon.
Any one know what car/ who is behind Steve?
Update- 1999 Allcomers class at Taupo.
Red Subaru is Alan Rea

[Andrew Metford]

Red car behind Steve is a Subaru Impreza , don't know who though.

Love these old photos, the cars looks awesome :)

[car mad]

Just want to jump in here with a quick question, I have a friend with a Rover V8 powered RX3 which came from the south Island and was originally put together for OSCA, or something like that I believe.
I think the car was built in the late 80's or Early 90's.
Would he be welcome on this grid? and If so, then who should he get in touch with?
He needs to be nudged along a bit!
if its the one im thinking of was a maybe south island production car built and raced by a fella by the Ian Wooster and converted to rover v8 in the early 90s and raced as club mans and maybe a few OSCA races ........but i could be wrong ....

[John McKechnie]

Time will tell, lets hope its soon.

[tonttu]

tonttu- will try my best here.
When- would be 2000-2001.
Where- old Taupo track.
Usual suspects-
Jon Telford in blue Starlet.
Roger Davis in his red Torana.
Graeme Barnes in the green Capri
Yellow car- has ST badge on the grille,can someone help here?
Brendon Motors has its name on these cars screen banners.
Campanella Confectionari is the screen banner of another years series will post these later.

Thanks John

[John McKechnie]

Jon has given me some more details for your questions-
#775....year is 1999, Allcomers class m(sounds familiar). Red Subaru is Alan Rea.
#769.... Yellow car is Tony Phelan Toyota Carina with a 4.4 p75 or rover V8. he thinks...
Anyone know what happened to this car?
Jons Starlet had a EVO Mitsy motor, Starion gearbox and AE86 diff
Next pic will be Jon and Red Escort of Brendon Neiman

[ERC]

Have you noticed that all these cars pictured have real character and individuality? These are the sorts of cars we want to see on the track, not todays bland identical stuff. Keep this class and thread going. Great work guys and especially you John.

[Andrew Metford]

Couldn't agree more Ray :)

[faminz]

Video I retrieved from a VHS tape of Graeme Addis interview with his new Charger back in the day.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Ae8lKIpnkI

[John McKechnie]

I just love Graemes sense of humour when asked about special pieces....International haybaler donuts, Kenworth truck warning lights, Morris 1100 gearlever.
Great post-well found

[Sentra Racer]

Here are some cars that ran in the Kiwi Sports Sedan class at Manfeild Oct 98. As I do not have a program from this event I am unable to identify some drivers.

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#19 Alan Montgomery (PN)
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#43 Bill Russell (HSTG)
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#05 Kevin Bovey (WGTN)
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[Sentra Racer]

More from the same meeting.

#90 Russell Due (THPE)
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#91 Dave Stevens (FLDG)
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[Sentra Racer]

Kiwi Sports Sedans Manfeild Nov 1999


#1 Brendon Neiman (WGTN)
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#19 Alan Montgomery (PN)
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#19 Monte & #60 Tony Phelan (GSBN)
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#43 Bill Russell (HSTG)
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[Sentra Racer]

More from the same meeting.

#60 Tony Phelan
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#68 Roger Davis (HLTN) & #23 Bob Hyslop (TGA)
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[John McKechnie]

Wow, great collection of pics.
I have spoken to the owner of the white HC Viva Estate, hes keen to run his car again when its ready.

[John McKechnie]

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Jon running with Brendan Neiman

[Sentra Racer]

Random photos from Manfeild Winter Series meetings 1998-2000. Part 1

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Part 2

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Part 3

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[ERC]

Amazing just how many Vauxhall based cars in this thread!

[rogered]

I have a feeling, the yellow RX3 of alan Montgomery, started life as Alan Grices "Craven mild" car. Not sure if he still has it, but had a feeling it may be back in Aust.

[John McKechnie]

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Looks like Jon and Bob Hyslop at it again, Jon says he cant wait to do it again with the RX8

[T300]

Hi,
New here.I have the ex Doug Clark Toyota Celica Sports Sedan that has been fully professionally restored to original spec.It won 3 Queensland Sports Sedan Championships in the early 80's as well as running in the National Series.It has a full Space Frame front fabricated by John Wright (Avante) and has a Mid Mount High HP Holden 202 with a Duggan Head that is dry sumped.All running gear and mechanicals historically correct and brand new.
Car is running but needs glass and bars etc fitted.New period sympathetic FIA compliant cage just fitted by Paul Morris Motorsport as well as engine cover.I have the original Logbook and full documentation.I have spent over $80K on this project and as I am not going to race again I would sell it for $40K.Car is at PMM Gold Coast.Kindly PM me or call+61 (0)433112599 for further info on this Historically significant Sports Sedan.Thanks.

[John McKechnie]

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Jon and Roger Davis going at it, sure it wont be long before Roger will be seen in the same chasing position.

[John McKechnie]

At last,- as promised -Barry Algies Monaro is featured in the latest Australian STREET MACHINE magazine, February edition.
Hoping it would make the front cover,it didnt, you will find it page 112-118
However great pics from at Hampton Downs, and a great advertisement for Historic Sports Sedans .
It takes a special car to be there , and thanks to Street Machine for wanting this iconic NZ car featured
Also extra special thanks to Andrew Metford and Scott Campbell- Fast Parts- for helping this photo shoot and article to come together.

[Sentra Racer]

Some photo's from the first TRS meeting at Manfeild 2005.

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More from the same meeting.

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[Sentra Racer]

Amazing just how many Vauxhall based cars in this thread!


And Capri's!

[John McKechnie]

Senta Racer- love these pics, the colours and details are so sharp.
Some cars dont have drivers names on the sides- any details anyone?
As you say- look at these Capris and ,where are they now?

[John McKechnie]

At the Ganley meeting Barry had axle lock problem with the diff.
Turns out these gearboxes were ok for 289, but not for what his is putting out and the casing was the problem.
As HD is much tighter and twistier than Puke or Bay Park, this had never been a problem.
On the casing there are 2 side covers and one top cover. These were flexing under load causing distortions and axle movement.
Currently he is casting 3 new ones to overcome this problem.
Meanwhile work is continuing on Gordons Alfa gearbox to stop the gear dog on the main shaft from moving

[Racefan]

Just got the latest Street Machine Magazine and there is an artcle on Barry Algies Monaro.

[John McKechnie]

A reminder to all concerned that the Legends of Speed meeting is happening last weekend of March at Hampton Downs.
I will be notifying people by phone and emails as well as this thread.
If you have a car that would fit in the grid please contact me.
This is another race meeting put on by Historic Racing Club.

[John McKechnie]

With a month to go, we have entered for Legends meeting so far-
Graeme Barnes- Capri V8
John Telford -RX8.
Mark Allen -Viva V8
Ivan Bevins -XB Coupe.
Richard Quinn - Starlet V8.
Dennis Running- Mazda Rx8....Said he will be a starter, as his knee is now repaired.
Gordon Burr -Alfetta V8....Said car will be ready, he will be there.
Barry Algie Monaro V8.....Said diff covers will be finished in a week, and will be there,

As recent pictures show Bob Hyslops Mazda RX7 was a force to be reckoned with, back in the day.
Well, we can give an update- he still has the same cars that he built then- a RX2 Coupe and the RX7.
The RX2 he races in Historic Saloons complete with COD
He is now focused onto getting his Mazda RX7 ready and again complete with COD, to run again with the Sports Sedans.
It wont be this year though.
Also at Bobs place was an old friend- Donn White from when I raced TACOC in the early 90s, he has quite a lot of Sports Sedan pics, so they will be up here soon.

[John McKechnie]

Confirmed today-
Robert Jack.......Escort V8.
John Dennehy.....Escort New Zealand Freighters
Bruce Kett.......Cambridge Camaro tribute.
Cam Crawford..XA Coupe
Ralf Mossman is unable to make it.
Just had Robert Bartley with Susso 2- he will be overseas and not here.
John Rush with Escort is working and unable.
Latest Petrol Head mag has pic of John Telford and Robert Jack.
Classic car mag has good frontal of the full pack racing.

[John McKechnie]

Just got off the phone to John Learmonth. He was unaware of Historic Sports Sedan class.Barry Algie met him at the Puke Swap meet and it was indeed well met there.
He bought David Algies Monza and still owns it.
Also he is now very keen on the idea of running it with the rest of the guys and when I told him the names of who would be running at Hampton Downs at the end of the month, he said he would like to come along .
Monza is not ready to run right now, but now he knows there is a fun class for it, he will move things along quicker.

[John McKechnie]

At the 30th annual MG meeting at Manfield this year Historic Sports Sedans and Invited Allcomers have been offered a grid.
We have accepted this great opportunity to run at this major meeting.
This year it is The SoundMG Classic Motor Race.
It is over 3 days- November 13, 14, 15.
Practice on Friday, Racing Saturday and Sunday with 4 races.
As Sports Sedans have always had a strong following at Manfield and the guys there have travelled up to HD many times , it is very exciting for us to go to their track again after all these years..
There are other cars there that used to race from this area and want to come out again.
As this class also includes OSCAs I have sent invites to the South Island guys and Tony Mann has expressed a strong interest in bringing the ex Alex Dickie Victor to this event.
I am the class coordinator for this event and for further details please either email or pm me.
This has the makings of a very memorable weekend

[John McKechnie]

A quick update -
Ice Breaker September 12, 13 at Hampton Downs.
Also TACCOC have invited us to run with them Saturday October 3rd Pukekohe mufflers will be needed. This ,noise permitting, will be run on the old track- the looooooooooong back straight.
I would appreciate any assistance on these days as I will be running in HMC.
Also I have been talking to drivers that eventually all these cars will need a COD to be allowed to run.
Dennis Running is part of the way through with his Mazda RX8 and Graeme Barnes has just got his Schedule K,for his well known ex Bullivant, Friend and others Capri.
Degree is A -Denotes a vehicle in full compliance.
He now joins a growing list including Gordon Burr, Graeme Addis, Ivan Bevins .
Fantastic news for him and he is so glad he resisted all the people wanting to buy it

[Kevin Hirst]

A quick update -
Ice Breaker September 12, 13 at Hampton Downs.
Also TACCOC have invited us to run with them Saturday October 3rd Pukekohe mufflers will be needed. This ,noise permitting, will be run on the old track- the looooooooooong back straight.
I would appreciate any assistance on these days as I will be running in HMC.
Also I have been talking to drivers that eventually all these cars will need a COD to be allowed to run.
Dennis Running is part of the way through with his Mazda RX8 and Graeme Barnes has just got his Schedule K,for his well known ex Bullivant, Friend and others Capri.
Degree is A -Denotes a vehicle in full compliance.
He now joins a growing list including Gordon Burr, Graeme Addis, Ivan Bevins .
Fantastic news for him and he is so glad he resisted all the people wanting to buy it

Have got my hand up if you need me, cheers Kev

[John McKechnie]

Kevin- great offer and will gladly accept.
Not too much to do except make sure cars are ready when called, drivers know their grid, and be on dummy grid until they go out.

[Kevin Hirst]

Kevin- great offer and will gladly accept.
Not too much to do except make sure cars are ready when called, drivers know their grid, and be on dummy grid until they go out.

Just let us know times & days required John, jaykev@xtra.co.nz or094314889 pleasure to help.

[John McKechnie]

Time to bring up this thread again-
To avoid any confusion about this Sundays meeting, 1st November at Hampton Downs-
TACCOC have very kindly given HSS a place at the meeting and we have invited HMC runners to come out to enjoy the day.This is the Tin Top field running at Hampton Downs next Sunday 1st November.
Its a good mix of our well known Historics- Sports Sedans and Muscle Cars
Peter Hooper Toyota Starlet
Dennis Running Mazda RX8 V8
Graeme Addis Chrysler Charger 770
Dale Mathers Ford Mustang Boss 302
Adrian Dobbe Vauxhall Viva
Peter Stevenson Ford Mustang
Glenn Allingham Chevrolet Camaro
Richard Malam Ford Mustang
Roger Davis Holden Torana SLR5000
Mitch Mexted Ford Capri
Ivan Bevins Ford Falcon XBGT
John Dennehy Ford Escort Mk1
John McKechnie Ford Falcon XA Coupe
Heres hoping the weather will be kind to us as its a fun looking field for the spectators to enjoy.
Yes, great looking HSS grid -7-with 6 invited HMC
Would liked to have Barry Algie there with the Monaro- however he is shifting house and operations so he is not ready.
Gordon Burr with the Alfetta is still waiting for his motor- previous block was cracked , so all internal to be swapped over.
Richard Quin- Starlet-still waiting for his gearbox to be done
Robert Jack, Roger Williams, Rodney Holland are out of the country.
Our friends from the South would love to be with us, but with the MG so close there are focussed on getting ready for that.
Next year we want to be there in force.
We welcome Richie Hallem in the ex Rob Browns Mustang having his first run and Glen Ellingham also running here in his new car for the first time.
This may answer the all time question of which Ford has more power Dales or Ivan Bevins with Adrian Dobbe showing what cornering is all about.
Great day

Would have been an excellent opportunity for the Sidchrome Mustang to come out and run with other pure HSS and COD cars.............Time

[Peter Nelson]

Hi
Can you please tell me if the historic sports sedans are still going to be at manfield this year? Many thanks.
Peter

[John McKechnie]

Hi Peter- I will not be taking a class of Historic Sports Sedans there.
At the meeting there is a class that the Sports Sedans can run in, Ivan Bevins says he will be there, so will Graeme Barnes, Mark Allen, John Telford, and John Rush. Peter Hopper wants to go ,if engine pressure issues resolved

[John McKechnie]

Would like to give a big thanks to TACCOC in inviting HSS to run at Hampton Downs last weekend,.and the big man upstairs for providing us with great weather to play in.
Plenty of skids and loudness of engines...unlike Puke.
There were 7 period correct HSS cars running plus 7 HMC cars with CODs.
It was obvious by the times that the Sports Sedans were going to be quicker dues to the slicks , but the handicapping made for some very exciting watching in the last race.
Everyone had a ball, we can be back again next year.
In the meantime the guys that didnt make it are working hard to get ready for January meeting.


Also would like to remind everyone that we are only running the FIRST weekend of the two weekend Porsche race meeting in January next year.

[John McKechnie]

Entries are being taken for the Porsche Festival , Hampton Downs, January 15-17.
We are not racing the second weekend.
If you have a Sports Sedan, OSCA , Shellsport and you wish to enter contact me or enter directly.
Also if you have a period car from last century with little or no modern modifications and you wish to enter as an Invited Allcomer , then pm or telephone me.

[John McKechnie]

Hi Everyone-
Here is the entry list for the Porsche Festival.
We are running the first weekend

Adrian Dobbe Vauxhall Viva 1969 Silver/Black 40 3300 Historic Sports Sedans
Barry Algie Holden Monaro 1970 Orange 18 5800 Historic Sports Sedans
Bert Quin Ford Capri Perana Rep 1970 Orange 2 5000 Historic Sports Sedans
Bruce Goodwin Ford Zephyr Mk 3 1963 Aqua 302 5000 Historic Sports Sedans
Colin Meadows Chevrolet Camaro RS 1970 White 4 6000 Historic Sports Sedans
Dennis Running Mazda RX8 V8 1979 Red 8 5000 Historic Sports Sedans
Gordon Burr Alfa Romeo Algie Alfetta 5000 1977 White 61 5000 Historic Sports Sedans
Graeme Addis Charger 770/ Lola T190 1972 Black/White/Blue 9 5998 Historic Sports Sedans
Graham Barnes Ford Capri 1976 Red/Black 118 5800 Historic Sports Sedans
Jon Telford Mazda RX8 1981 Red 69 5800 Historic Sports Sedans
Mark Allan Vauxhall Firenza 1972 Orange 193 5300 Historic Sports Sedans
Paul Burnet Holden Torana GTR-XU1 1973 Pink 38 3300 Historic Sports Sedans
Peter Hooper Toyota Starlet 1982 White 7 1496 Historic Sports Sedans
Robert Bartley Ford Customline 1955 White/Blue/Red 50 7000 Historic Sports Sedans
Robert Jack Ford Escort 1979 White 72 5800 Historic Sports Sedans
Roger Davis Holden Torana SLR5000 1976 Red 68 5900 Historic Sports Sedans
Roger Williams Mercedes 450 1978 Red 12 6000 Historic Sports Sedans
Ron Findlay Ford Capri Perana 1970 Red 181 5700 Historic Sports Sedans
To be confirmed-
Ivan Bevins. Falcon XBGT Coupe.

[John McKechnie]

Thursday 14 Jan 16 –Competitors unload race cars at the track and build their Pits. Driver documentation and scrutineering begins at 12:30. Track familiarisation for new-to-Hampton Downs drivers starts at 13:30 (1.30 pm) after which there will be track familiarisation and car testing (not practice).

Friday 15 Jan 16 – Documentation and scrutineering will begin at 07:30. Driver's briefing begins at 08:00 'sharp' in Hamptons Conference venue in the Pit Paddock. At 09:00, 15 minute practice sessions begin for each of the 10 race classes and will run throughout the morning. At 12:15 lunchtime, there will be a Parade of Porsche cars, a Porsche race car demonstration, followed by a 1 lap 3-car 'Porsche Pursuit' (come and see it !). The lunchtime session will conclude with 'Track Laps' for European Motors Ltd - Porsche clients. After lunch, 15 minute qualifying sessions will be held for most of the 10 race classes (F5000/F1 have elected to do a second practice session). Around mid-afternoon a 6 lap on-track demonstration will be held with selected Porsche cars.

Saturday 16 Jan 16 – The first race will begin at 09:00. There will be one 8-lap race for 9 race classes in the morning and a race for all 10 classes in the afternoon. Note that the F5000/F1 class will have qualifying in the morning and a race in the afternoon. At 12:15 lunchtime, there will be a Parade of Porsche cars, a Porsche race car demonstration, followed by a 1 lap 3-car 'Porsche Pursuit' (come and see it !). The lunchtime session will conclude with 'Track Laps' for European Motors Ltd - Porsche clients. There will be one demonstration run of 6 laps by special cars/drivers in selected Porsche cars in the afternoon.

[kiwi285]

Here are a couple of photos that I have been sent to post onto this thread. The photos were all taken at Manfield but not sure of the dates.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2w2ific.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/24l65np.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2ces2hj.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/29zalnp.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/34p060m.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/33kptud.jpg

[kiwi285]

Here's a photo to prove that those elusive barn finds do exist even here in NZ. This car has recently been sighted and I am told has found a new home. The cars look to be in excellent condition. And YES it will be on track again soon.

http://i63.tinypic.com/qxpfv5.jpg

[John McKechnie]

The next event for Historic Sports Sedan and Invited All- Comers is April 2, 3 at Hampton Downs.
Jon Telford is coming up to run.
Mark Allen, Robert Bartley, John Rush and Graham Barnes cant make it.
Graeme Addis will be there in his Charger.
Richard Quinn in his Starlet V8.-flywheel needs repairing, wont be there.
Robert Jack-Escort V8
Gordon Burr is looking forward to having a decent crack in the Alfetta
Barry Algie will also be there and running with the Monaro
Adrian Dobbe -Torana.
Roger Davis- Torana
Ron Findlay-Capri V8,
Ivan Bevins-XBGT Coupe,- maybe a starter
Peter Hooper -Starlet.
Colin Meadows- Camaro.
Dennis Running-either RX8 or Corvette.
Rob Berggren- Capri V8- This car has a competitive history going back to the 90s and will post it here
The Torana V8 shown above- simply not enough time to get it ready..will definitely be there for the next outing.This car also has competitive history back to the 90s and will put details here.
Still waiting to hear from Bruce Goodwin- MK3 Zephyr V8, Brian Friend-Commodore, Barry Search, Bruce Kenny-Commodore, John Learmonth.And some others that I will do an update on.
Steve Pearson- Rover, .cant make it.
Graeme Park- making good progress on the GPS Marina V8, but not ready yet.

If anyone out there has a suitable car and they would like to run with us, please contact me.

All those who love these cars should get excellent value for the weekend

[ERC]

Well done John. Looking better all the time.

[seaqnmac27]

Here are a couple of photos that I have been sent to post onto this thread. The photos were all taken at Manfield but not sure of the dates.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2w2ific.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/24l65np.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2ces2hj.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/29zalnp.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/34p060m.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/33kptud.jpg

Almost got caught out, but I suspect this is 1979. #44 would be therefore Danie Lupp with the Capri while it was V12 engined

[John McKechnie]

Here's a photo to prove that those elusive barn finds do exist even here in NZ. This car has recently been sighted and I am told has found a new home. The cars look to be in excellent condition. And YES it will be on track again soon.

http://i63.tinypic.com/qxpfv5.jpg

In 19 April 1997 -This car came 3rd overall and 2nd in the 3500cc + over class D in the 6 hour endurance at Pukekohe
with Dean Perkins and Steve Bennenbroek driving .

[Steve Holmes]

Almost got caught out, but I suspect this is 1979. #44 would be therefore Danie Lupp with the Capri while it was V12 engined

I agree with you. In fact, I recall being at that event when I was a kid. The Lupp Capri wouldn't start when it sat on the startline in the final handicap race.

[John McKechnie]

Robert Jack has posted these for those who want the experience of looking up the Alfettas exhaust....neat to have these videos contributed here.
https://youtu.be/1InryhYN9g4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byoDGcP4tyI

[John McKechnie]

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Chris Radford who has been very helpful in supplying these pictures, result sheets and factual history

[John McKechnie]

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As you can see it still has Graham Crispe Electrical, V700 tyres and number 4.
Was originally built up in mid 90s by Steve Bennenbroek from a genuine XU1 body he got from a guy from Aucklands North Shore who was building up a race car- anyone got any details of previous owner ?
Later sold to Chris Radford-#830., when Steve got into Tranzams
Chris had a XU1 V8 as a road car , and this was copied off that-Garry is a very talented toolmaker
Will be posting results from Taupo 11 April 1998 when it ran in Kiwi Sports Sedans.
Special interest will be seeing where it won a race beating Dale Mathers .
Also the 6 hour races.-at Pukekohe racing with the likes of Dennis Running, John Pope, Trevor McLean, Vern Muller, etc

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This a is result sheet from Taupo sent to John. Its a Kiwi sports sedan race 18 years ago.
Its one of a few i will put up.
Johns Torana is driven here by Steve Benningbrook.
Also on the Grid are a few cars Running now in Historic Sports sedans
Brendon Niemans escort, now with Jon Rush.
Richard Quin (Crowe Starlet 1) has his son Ben here.
Russel Due Firenza Now with Mark Allen
John Learmonth in an ex Algie Chevy Monza
Neil Deighton, still runs the Chavanga at Manfeild
Graham Barns. ex Builvant , Richards, Cullinane ,Baker, Friend Capri Chev.
Also here, (but i think now back in Aust). is Alan montgomery in his ex Allan Grice RX3

Anything sub 46 seconds in starting to go pretty quick

[John McKechnie]

Thanks Roger....and not forgetting Roger had the track record at the time.
And its most important that these Sports Sedans have survived to still be running almost 20 years later in the Historic Sports Sedans.

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Legends of Speed- this weekend, April 2, 3 April at Hampton Downs.
There will be practice -Saturday morning, first race Saturday afternoon.
Sunday will be 2 races.
All starts will be rolling.
Roger Davis........Torana
Dennis Running. Corvette.
Gordon Burr,.......Alfetta
Barry Algie..........Monaro
Colin Meadows.....Camaro
Adrian Dobbe.......Torana
Ron Findlay..........Capri
Jon Telford...........RX7
Peter Hooper.......Starlet
Robert Jack..........Escort
Robert Berggren...Capri

Last run for Summer season, next event will be TACOC Hampton Downs Sunday Nov 1.

[John McKechnie]

These are confirmed starters.

[Growler]

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Gary Radford who has been very helpful in supplying these pictures, result sheets and factual history
That would be Chris Radford....

[John McKechnie]

Absolutely correct Mr Growler. Got picked up on that already today.............

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[Spgeti]

Wow....John theres a Riley Elf in that race !!.......mmmmm

[John McKechnie]

Bruce- thats why I posted this page....ring a few bells........................?

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[Roger Dowding]

magic stuff, racing always..
Spgeti, an Elf at 1293 cc Yes !! need to tow that bum around 1100 doesn't do it !!

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Graeme Park with Murray Park Marina, Currently rebuilding for this coming season. Its due a coat of Black Paint in the next week or so.
Whilst it originally ran with a P76 turbo V8, it was later re powered with a Chev, and thats what it will run now
Due to the engine placement an armrest may be required on the front exhaust header.

[John McKechnie]

The pterodactyl is now a phoenix rising again to terrorize the HSS front rows of the grid....
See Graeme in his blue Anglia from 1967 ,almost 50 years ago, on the Allcomer thread.
Good long term dedication to motor racing.
Great pix Roger, thanks for the update, looking really exciting for later this year.

[kiwi285]

John McKechnie has asked me to post this photo and he will do the explanations.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2ho8u1v.jpg

[John McKechnie]

Thanks Mike- this is the Barry Algie Memorial Trophy.
It will be awarded once a year at a specific race at a specific race meeting in memory of our friend.
Our race meetings for the Summer -

The Sports Sedan timetable for this season.

5 weekends of racing at Festival Meetings at 3 different tracks- a super Summer.

The cut off year is 1989, this is Historic racing,and for your enjoyment of your car- not for points or a series.


October 8- TACCOC. ...........................Hampton Downs

November 12, 13-MG. Classic...........Manfield

January 14,15 -Ken Smith Festival...Hampton Downs

January 21, 21 ken Smith Festival...Hampton Downs

March 13,14- Classic Festival.......Taupo

March 27,28 Legends of Speed- Hampton Downs

[John McKechnie]

10 September , HRC is having its Ice Breaker meeting.

see next post


www.motorsportentry.com for Ice Breaker

[John McKechnie]

This from Graeme Addis-

Chris Watson, the promoter of the Ice Breaker Meeting at Hampton Downs Sept 10 /11 2016, has expressed an interest in the idea we could run a modified V8 sedan all comers, pre 1993, set of races at that meeting.




This is a great pre-season shake down opportunity, and a chance to have a lot good old fun.



Chris has said if it works he is keen to make it an annual event.



If you are an owner, group representative, club captain, please send me your expression of interest to present to Chris.



It would be great if you can put the word out there (FB etc).

[Peter Nelson]

Really looking forward to seeing the cars and most likely for me will be Manfield. Does anyone know if Wayne Huxford will have the car going since restoration and George will be there in the Sidchrome Mustang. I will be posting some old TV footage I found on video soon to youtube of a couple of races, ( when I can get it to work too ) so will let you know, quality average but brings back the memories.

[Peter Nelson]

sorry, will George be there?

[Terry S]

Doesn't this thread need a new title?

[Peter Nelson]

Yes probably does need a new title for the season ahead, so maybe time to start one. Anyway a few videos I managed to take off and post are here. Sorry for the quality but the tapes are a bit shot. This should take you to the you tube page with the five races I have.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBt_PCmJmR86lgWrYc7Gnqw

[John McKechnie]

Doesn't this thread need a new title?


Done.

[Steve Holmes]

Yes probably does need a new title for the season ahead, so maybe time to start one. Anyway a few videos I managed to take off and post are here. Sorry for the quality but the tapes are a bit shot. This should take you to the you tube page with the five races I have.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBt_PCmJmR86lgWrYc7Gnqw

Hi Peter, those old tv events are awesome! Do you mind if I share them on this thread?

[Peter Nelson]

Hi Yes no problem, found a couple more too so feel free to post ( otherwise have to get my son to show me how LOL )

[Steve Holmes]

Hi Yes no problem, found a couple more too so feel free to post ( otherwise have to get my son to show me how LOL )

Thanks Peter, much appreciated.

[Steve Holmes]

This video and those to follow courtesy Peter Nelson from his Youtube page.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiYmYrCCffU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joFBUNxRKtM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt5MUDeMrmw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC-6OfEOgZI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv3bYbY40bQ

[John McKechnie]

The Taupo meeting mid March has changed its date and is now not the Classic Festival.
Update below.


October 8- TACCOC. ...........................Hampton Downs

November 12, 13-MG. Classic...........Manfield

January 14,15 -Ken Smith Festival...Hampton Downs- National Track

January 21, 21- Ken Smith Festival...Hampton Downs- International Track (Longer)

March 27,28 - Legends of Speed- Hampton Downs

April 8,9 - Hooters Vintage Series.....Taupo.

[John McKechnie]

How Adrian Dobbe found the Warwick Gray Viva as a "barn find", this car was first raced in 1974.

"it all started with a race down the middle of Avondale in 2002.
I was driving around in my 1973 GTR Torana -had a Holden V6 in it, other car was a Torana XU1.
We stopped and got talking, turned out he was Chris, the son of Warwick Gray.
He started talking about his fathers old race car- a 1969 HB Viva, and that it could be for sale and that Warwick had built it up himself..
I thought to myself-who the hell wants to have a Viva ?
Nothing more happened for a couple of months until I bumped into Chris again, and we ended up at Warwicks place.
After a cup of coffee , , he took me down to the old shed where it took a good 10 minutes just to get the garage door open.
The car had been locked up there since 1984.....18 years !!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I looked at it and just fell inlove with the damn thing..
Warwick must have liked me, took my money and I came home with a Viva.
After all those years in the shed, we had it going within one hour.
One year later I had finished restoring it.
I didnt have to do anything to the engine except paint it.
Took it to Pukekohe , had a really neat, fun day and did a 1.06 after just 3 laps.
I have owned the car for 14 years now and still enjoy driving the damn thing.
I did Hampton Downs in 1.14 last year as it is so light and has great steering.
This is more there, but as I want to live longer, i am not the guy..
I had a video camera with me when I met the car for the first time in the barn, and John will put it on youtube and post the link here.

[John McKechnie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbg1KK7a45w&feature=youtu.be

[Oldfart]

How cool is that?

[Spgeti]

Yes it is cool Rhys, and after pushing it in the pits at Legends it is light..!
Nice car and a great story.

[John McKechnie]

Yep, every car has a story- another Barn Find would be Grimmies Escort.............

[Oldfart]

Yep, every car has a story- another Barn Find would be Grimmies Escort.............

In a sort of a barn, not sure whether you would call it a barn as so many have known where it has been for years.

[Rod Grimwood]

In a sort of a barn, not sure whether you would call it a barn as so many have known where it has been for years.


Even I remembered last week end.

[Steve Emson]

I have a photo of me following this car at Baypark in my shellsport Datsun. Unfortunately you can only see the rear mudguard of this car. So you might say I know first hand how this car went.

How Adrian Dobbe found the Warwick Gray Viva as a "barn find", this car was first raced in 1974.

"it all started with a race down the middle of Avondale in 2002.
I was driving around in my 1973 GTR Torana -had a Holden V6 in it, other car was a Torana XU1.
We stopped and got talking, turned out he was Chris, the son of Warwick Gray.
He started talking about his fathers old race car- a 1969 HB Viva, and that it could be for sale and that Warwick had built it up himself..
I thought to myself-who the hell wants to have a Viva ?
Nothing more happened for a couple of months until I bumped into Chris again, and we ended up at Warwicks place.
After a cup of coffee , , he took me down to the old shed where it took a good 10 minutes just to get the garage door open.
The car had been locked up there since 1984.....18 years !!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I looked at it and just fell inlove with the damn thing..
Warwick must have liked me, took my money and I came home with a Viva.
After all those yearsin the shed, we had it going within one hour.
One year later I had finished restoring it.
I didnt have to do anything to the engine except paint it.
Took it to Pukekohe , had a really neat, fun day and did a 1.06 after just 3 laps.
I have owned the car for 14 years now and still enjoy driving the damn thing.
I did Hampton Downs in 1.14 last year as it is so light and has great steering.
This is more there, but as I want to live longer, i am not the guy..
I had a video camera with me when I met the car for the first time in the barn, and John will put it on youtube and post the link here.

[seaqnmac27]

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[John McKechnie]

The Viva received its Schedule K COD yesterday.
Your pics of these are so neat BMC boy.

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Well done Adrian. Fantastic car and one of my favorites. Congratulations on receiving your COD. It is worth the the hardwork in getting it and the "H" is the icing on the cake.

Cheers
Bruce Dyer
HSC Director

[John McKechnie]

Bruce- this then leads to the next question....where does/ should one display this priceless red sticker ?

[Spgeti]

Yes very good question John. I have seen a few over the years but most display it beside their race number.
I do not know if that is correct but when you see a car with it you know they are special.

Perhaps we could get some others point of view on this.....

[Steve Holmes]

Are Historic Sports Sedans confirmed for the MG Classic John?

[John McKechnie]

Steve- yes we are confirmed and currently contacting everyone to make this a totally memorable event.
Those going are aware of noise levels and are dealing with this.

[John McKechnie]

MG Manfield meeting 11-13 November
Graeme Park has booked some cabins at the Feilding Holiday Park.
This is 3 kms from the Racetrack, and is for Friday and Saturday nights.
Some extra accommodation is available at $40 per night -includes bedding and cutlery.
If listening to bedtime stories from long term Sports Sedan drivers-great cure for insomniacs- is on your Bucket List or just needing simple digs , then contact Roger..... roger.emd@gmail.com
We have 16 confirmed entries so far.38158

[John McKechnie]

I am trying to locate someone involved with motor racing living on the North Shore that had a yellow/orange LJ Torana GTR , and was building it up for the Muscle Cars.
He sold the rolling body to Steve Bennenbroeke in about 1995.
Maybe somebody may remember this car back then, or even who owned it.
He cant remember the place, sure the car had been involved in competition , was stripped ready for full race conversion when he bought it. Was not complete with interior

[John McKechnie]

MG Manfield 11-113 Manfield update.
We now have 27 cars so for those wanting see a rip roaring field there- you wont be disappointed.
Jennifer Mossman for one is making a welcome return to the field.
An updated list will be posted very soon.

[seaqnmac27]

Feeling very disappointed right now!!

[John McKechnie]

For all those who dont know the vibrant night life at Manfield or want to be able to tell the wife/girlfriend/partner/dog they are doing something respectable, I have been extended a really interesting invitation-
Terry Rush Car museum , not far from the track.
If any one is interested to go and see it, He will open for us. Friday 5.00pm onwards,
it takes about one hour to do,
$10 per person
Only as a Group, no lone rangers.
pm me for details
Available to all of us.

[John McKechnie]

And for those going down on Friday for practice-
Friday is free testing, No timing, The morning will be tin tops of all makes going round and round up to 45 cars on the track, As one comes in, another goes out. The afternoon will be groups. Be there early to get the most track time.

Official practice is on Saturday morning starting at 9am.The sports Sedans will be practice 6 and Muscle Cars will p9.

[4dnut]

MG Manfield meeting 11-13 November
Graeme Park has booked some cabins at the Feilding Holiday Park.
This is 3 kms from the Racetrack, and is for Friday and Saturday nights.
Some extra accommodation is available at $40 per night -includes bedding and cutlery.
If listening to bedtime stories from long term Sports Sedan drivers-great cure for insomniacs- is on your Bucket List or just needing simple digs , then contact Roger..... roger.emd@gmail.com
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944 S2 Porsche Historic Sport Sedan?

[seaqnmac27]

944 S2 Porsche Historic Sport Sedan?

I will stand to be corrected, but surely this is a nod to the driver, especially while the Marina is being finished

[John McKechnie]

seaqnmac27- Very perceptive and totally correct.
As an original Sports Sedan driver, and a racer since 1965, Graeme Park is racing this as an Invited Allcomer.
Marina will be back at its sizzling best at Hampton Downs in January.

[GD66]

A good man. And not unfamiliar with the colour black :cool:

[John McKechnie]

Here is the confirmed field...so far...for Manfield.

Keith Tunnicliffe.--- MK3 Zephyr
Peter Hooper, --- Toyota Starlet
Dennis Running--- Mazda RX8
John McKechnie--- Torana XU1 V8
Graeme Park--- Porsche 944.
Cam Neil--- 1939 Chev Coupe V8
Adrian Dobbe--- Vauxhall HB Viva
John Rush--- Escort V8
Robert Bartley--- Custaxie 2
Craig Horn--- Torana XU1
Gordon Burr--- Alfetta GTV V8
Roger Davis--- Torana L34 V8
Jon Telford--- Mazda RX7 V8
Michael Johnston--- Datsun 240Z Scarab V8
Robert Jack --- Escort V8
Neil Deighton--- Hillman Chavenger V8
Ivan Bevins--- XB GT Coupe
Jennifer Mossman--- XA V8 Coupe
Phillip Hoffman--- Mustang GT350
Marvyn Towers--- MGB v8
Richard Quinn--- Toyota Starlet V8
Graham Barnes--- Ford Capri V8
Alan Pearce--- VK Commodore
Tony Vujnovich--- Ford Capri V8
Magaret Goodwin--- Chev Corvette
Bruce Goodwin--- MK3 Zephyr V8
Robert Berggren--- Ford Perana V8

And of course if any one else would like to run, entries are still being accepted.

[ERC]

Brilliant field. Congratulation to all involved and thanks John, for kicking this off and getting so many interesting cars out there.

[John McKechnie]

Neat cars, great guys and believe me,its a pleasure when it all comes together like this

[Rod Grimwood]

John neat guys, but you have got a real beauty in Jennifer Mossman, and well done by you.
PS she is a very tidy driver and quick.

[John McKechnie]

Thanks Rod, by the way you are next- which weekend in January?

[Peter Nelson]

Hi All, a really great turn out of cars and well done to all concerned. Just a question though on the Addis Charger and Sheweiry Mustang, I was kinda hoping to see these two but they are not listed, are they still planning to race these two cars again in the future if not at this meeting. Thanks to you all for getting these awesome cars back on the track again. Fans do appreciate the effort involved.

[Rod Grimwood]

John will be there both weekends, will call when back from Aussie.
Right foot already shaking.
cheers,

[4dnut]

seaqnmac27- Very perceptive and totally correct.
As an original Sports Sedan driver, and a racer since 1965, Graeme Park is racing this as an Invited Allcomer.
Marina will be back at its sizzling best at Hampton Downs in January.

When I enquired about running my escort as invited allcomer I was told that, all comers cars were as the allcomers cars were like Zepher Corvette, custaxi etc, not modern cars, a change of plan now? I respect Mr Park is an old sport sedan driver and will race his car once finished, but I do struggle with this as I have always had it hammered to me it is about the 'cars' not the drivers. How does a Scarab 240Z fit?

[timbo]

Historic Sports Sedans put on some demonstration laps at the Muscle Car Masters at Eastern Creek last weekend.

The ex Bob Tindal Commodore
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/154_zpsity1vfgg.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/154_zpsity1vfgg.jpg.html)
The ex Bruce Gowans Toyota Celica
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/153_zps6lrqj4ma.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/153_zps6lrqj4ma.jpg.html)
The ex John McCormack Charger, and inside the cockpit,
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/004_zpsbafyr187.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/004_zpsbafyr187.jpg.html)
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/003_zps8mrqesjd.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/003_zps8mrqesjd.jpg.html)
The ex John McCormack Jaguar XJS
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/161_zpsq1ukix1o.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/161_zpsq1ukix1o.jpg.html)

[John McKechnie]

Timbo- neat pics, the red Celica looks a real honey.

[Steve Holmes]

Awesome pics Timbo. Thanks for posting. Some of those cars have been in the restoration phase for a long time, so its great to see them finished.

Interestingly, three of the four cars were built by John McCormack.

[Steve Holmes]

Timbo, did you get photos of other categories at the MCM? If so, would you be happy to do a MCM thread?

[John McKechnie]

My XA Coupe and the XU1 V8 were both picked up today by Brian Roberts Transporters this afternoon and will arrive at Manfield Friday morning.
Too difficult taking 2 cars down on 2 trailers with 2 towing vehicles.
Jennifer Mossman will drive the XA Coupe in her favourite Sports Sedan race also the Sybill Lupp Trophy race for ladies.
I am driving the Torrie in Sports Sedan race, Foggy just finished it today and dropped it off this morning.
looking forward to a field of 27 cars this weekend.

[John McKechnie]

Just spoken to Richard Quinn and Gordon Burr.
The Alfetta and Crowe Starlet are both ready and will be racing at Manfield.
Bruce- better start getting the Italian flags out...........

[Spgeti]

I am so looking forward to seeing the Alfetta at Manfeild. It has to be many many years since it raced on Manfeild. Such an iconic sports sedan for all and a very special car for the Italian/Chev lover like me !!!
Also looking forward to seeing the Viva as well as the Toranas John.

[Peter Nelson]

Yes agreed....really looking forward to the weekend. There is some great footage of these cars as I posted on this thread too and with the Alfetta. Any chance of any update on George's Mustang and the Addis Charger? really wanted to see those going again or are they back in storage?? Just been thinking about the Jack Nazer Victor, I remember seeing an article once that it was being restored too, any news?? Any info from those closer to this than me would be appreciated. I was reading the other thread on the topic the other night and the postings from 2013 were that the Mustang was going back in to mothball storage again.. That would be a shame for sure.

[John McKechnie]

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Jennifer Mossman gave me some pix of her earlier cars.
The consul was built by Keith weir and john thorby. Sadly Keith passed away this year.
Nice sunnies to shield the glare
She had a ton of fun driving with the Sports Sedan gang at the MG Manfeild

[John McKechnie]

This from Roger Davis-
The car behind the quarter past three is shane windleborn SLR5000.

The shot on the roaring season is Jennifer, Alan Ferguson,Steve Pearson in the renault (which he had between the imp and the rover) (its wrecked and at the dump) and my Torana.
The car in the background is Greg Lancaster in his ex factory Volvo turbo. (this thing disappeared a long time ago)

[Rod Grimwood]

The Commodore was well known car before Jennifer took it over,(yellow and blue) Jennifer and partner did a very nice refurbish of it.
She drove very well.

[John McKechnie]

It was sold, very regretfully , to fund the next exciting project- Mazda RX7 with a V8 .

[Steve Holmes]

The Commodore was well known car before Jennifer took it over,(yellow and blue) Jennifer and partner did a very nice refurbish of it.
She drove very well.

So is the pink and white VL of Jennifer Mossman the yellow and blue VK of Brett Willis?

[John McKechnie]

Jennifer told me she prefers the VK look.
I have another pic of it , will post later tonight.

[Rod Grimwood]

So is the pink and white VL of Jennifer Mossman the yellow and blue VK of Brett Willis?

Yes Steve.

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Rod, I didn't know that. Has this car ever been found?

[Rod Grimwood]

It was sold, very regretfully , to fund the next exciting project- Mazda RX7 with a V8 .

This car John, Yellow when Ralph got it of his sister, and now red with John after major rebuild.

Alot of the Trans Am Camaro gear from the Commodore went into this.

[John McKechnie]

There was much discussion at Manfeild on this and other cars.
Has not been found.......yet.
Memories are that it could have ended up as a dirt track car in some form.
Jennifer did enjoy racing against her old red Mazda RX7 V8 at Manfield last weekend.

[Grant Ellwood]

Jennifer Mossman gave me some pix of her earlier cars.
The consul was built by Keith weir and john thorby. Sadly Keith passed away this year.
Nice sunnies to shield the glare
She had a ton of fun driving with the Sports Sedan gang at the MG Manfeild

I recall seeing the Consul in a hanger at Tauranga airport, early '90s I think ( very vaguely). It was owned by Phil Rudd at the time.
I wonder where it is now.

[Kiwiboss]

I recall seeing the Consul in a hanger at Tauranga airport, early '90s I think ( very vaguely). It was owned by Phil Rudd at the time.
I wonder where it is now.

I think Graeme Clark here in Tauranga ended up with it, he's still around so easy to find out. Dale M

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[Spgeti]

Gee that is really cool.

[John McKechnie]

Nigel- beautiful pics giving lots of close up detail....thanks for posting.
Jen said when she ran it, there was a 6 cylinder ( Holden ?) in it, heard that later a Rover V8 had been fitted.

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I once owned a Consul Capri, can't remember who I sold it to but now wish I had kept it ( doesn't everyone!).
The one in the pic is from a UK sales site, for sale at £25,000.

[John McKechnie]

Just spoken to Graeme Clark- quite a bit to write here on the man-
Used to own the Capri V8 that Ron Findlay runs in with us.
Probably his favourite race car.
When he owned the 315, he took the motor out , put in the Rover V8.
He put the 6 cylinder Holden motor into a Torana XU1 body and that is the car that Dr John Elliott runs in Centrals.
The 315 had gone from Jen to Phil Rudd.
Then to Graeme
Did a deal with Derek Mitchell, who then sold it to a chap with gliders in Kawerau.
Graeme then bought it back, used it for a while, then sold it to a chap in Taranaki- logical with these colours.
Still digging and will post results as they come to hand.

[Rod Grimwood]

John I used to spend a few hours around a fridge in Matamata with Graeme way back, top guy and real good bugger, and has had some interesting cars.
Dale you would remember the 'Fridge' we mention.
The Capri had a Mopar in it at one stage, it was a blue/silver colour, he ran in sports sedans at Bay Park it was quick for a road car. local cops between Tauranga and Matamata wasted a lot of time trying to have 'a look' at the car.

[Steve Holmes]

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I once owned a Consul Capri, can't remember who I sold it to but now wish I had kept it ( doesn't everyone!).
The one in the pic is from a UK sales site, for sale at £25,000.

Boy these are a great looking car. There was a boy racer version in Palmerston North when I was growing up in the 1980s. Had a really deep metalflake paint job. The paint must have weighed a ton.

[Jac Mac]

IIRC Wayne Andrews ran one of the above Capri bodies on one of his 'A' Grade speedway saloons back in the mid to late seventies, got T-Boned by Woods @ Beachlands the first meet after I changed to the blue/white colours for the mustang, I remember that well!!, I had to fix it the next week.

Is the Lancaster Volvo not the same car as Dave Agnew runs in OSCA, albeit with later C70 body panels.

[Alan Hyndman]

Just spoken to Graeme Clark- quite a bit to write here on the man-
Used to own the Capri V8 that Ron Findlay runs in with us.
Probably his favourite race car.
When he owned the 315, he took the motor out , put in the Rover V8.
He put the 6 cylinder Holden motor into a Torana XU1 body and that is the car that Dr John Elliott runs in Centrals.
The 315 had gone from Jen to Phil Rudd.
Then to Graeme
Did a deal with Derek Mitchell, who then sold it to a chap with gliders in Kawerau.
Graeme then bought it back, used it for a while, then sold it to a chap in Taranaki- logical with these colours.
Still digging and will post results as they come to hand.

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The chap in the Naki might well have been Darcy May - he ran a car that ticks all these boxes in sprints my club ran at Taupo a few years ago.

[John McKechnie]

Alan- you are correct, I have just emailed him.

[kiwi285]

John - is this car still around ? Love the car that Nigel photographed in Tauranga a few years ago. Would make a great addition to any grid.

[John McKechnie]

Mike- will flick you some pix of this car from Taupo track for you to post

[John McKechnie]

John I used to spend a few hours around a fridge in Matamata with Graeme way back, top guy and real good bugger, and has had some interesting cars.
Dale you would remember the 'Fridge' we mention.
The Capri had a Mopar in it at one stage, it was a blue/silver colour, he ran in sports sedans at Bay Park it was quick for a road car. local cops between Tauranga and Matamata wasted a lot of time trying to have 'a look' at the car.

From Graeme-
Rons Capri was first owned by Vivian Munk , thats the late Ian Munks wife, he was a good friend of mine in Christchurch. I used to run the Capri in the clubmans class which was WOF and street tyres otherwise whatever you wanted then put slicks on and sometimes run in OSCA. Even beat a few of them which pissed them off LOL as I could throw my tyres into the car and drive home. I used to run a Chrysler 340 cuin in it at the time.

Those were the FUN days. I remember running it at Wigram on year and John Osborne made me alter my spoiler ,which was an RX& one,because it was a half inch wider than the body and deemed illegal under Oscar Rules

[Rod Grimwood]

Well Graeme, John was a stickler for the 'rules' (lol) he was a hard case, serious one minute and laughing along with you the next. Miss his humour at meetings. never forgotten.
Yea remember coming back with you from BayPark to Fridge in the Capri once, hard case days they were. have to catch up with you.
John can you pm me contact cheers

[John McKechnie]

I have just got off the phone to Darcy. He is rapt there is a class for his car as he thought it could only run as a club car.
He used to pedal the Max Irwin Escort V8 in earlier days
Graeme Clark and Darcy want to be involved here.
Darcy will have the Consul 315 racing at Hampton Downs in January.
Thanks to Nigel Watts for posting that brilliant pic from the All-Ford day with enough detail to get Graeme Clarks number off the car

[John McKechnie]

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Graeme Clark pushing it at Taupo

[John McKechnie]

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Jen in the ex Willis Commodore

[John McKechnie]

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Jen in the RX7 V8 now run by Jon Telford.

[John McKechnie]

Here are the results for all Historic Sports Sedan races at MG Manfeild-

http://www.marktime.co.nz/results/mg-classic-motor-racing/2016/11/12

[928]

i went to a meeting at manfield in 1988 with Dave Jurie and we looked at a 315 consul there to see if it was the one that he raced. he decided it probably was not his old car. I wonder what happened to it.

[TonyG]

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[John McKechnie]

Tony G- great to hear from you again, thanks for the neat pix showing the Commodore as a VK then VL
928 -what was the history of Dave Juries 315, and what was it running.

[928]

I cannot remember, I think he said started out with a 1340, but not sure. car had a big wing on the back similar to the car in post#911.
I think it was a 4 door but don't know for certain

[John McKechnie]

This from Jen-
I bought the car fro Keith weir of Marton in 1984. It ran a 202 Holden with triple dellorto carbs and a four speed Vauxhall victor box. I sold it to phil Rudd (the drummer from ACDC ) in 1986 to purchase the bare space frame chassis with the vk commodore shell attached from Brett Willis

[Steve Holmes]

So when did the Commodore go from being right hand drive to left hand drive?

[Rod Grimwood]

I got that info at home Steve, will post photos and show this afo,
it was when the boys came back from USA with the left over bits from the Trans Am Camaro, that's another story.

[John McKechnie]

Steve- note Jens comment....bare space frame chassis.

[Steve Holmes]

I got that info at home Steve, will post photos and show this afo,
it was when the boys came back from USA with the left over bits from the Trans Am Camaro, that's another story.

Thanks Rod. Good to know.

[Rod Grimwood]

The main reason for the trip to the USA in 1987 was to get some better parts for the Commodore as they were sick of breaking bits. Well when they did get 'the parts' they came in the form of a deal which i mentioned in other write up (which i will get to other part of trip shortly)
The car in 1984 won the trans Am series with David Hobbs driving it and later by Billy T Ribbs. It was car 28 of a 2 car team owned by Portland Industrialist De Atley and sponsored by Budweiser.
This Camaro Trans Am was based around a Stock Car Products road race chassis from Santa Fe Springs in Calif.
Had coil over suspension all round, 3 link quick change rear end, non-power assist rack and pins steering, front rear anti-roll bars and a Watt linkage that attached around the differential pinion snout.
When they had finsihed racing they stripped it to a bare frame and bought all back for Commodore.
All the suspension, running gear, brakes, wheels, seats, Gauges, left hand drive column, pedal box etc etc.

When we went to Laguna Seca couple year back the guys who Brett raced back then were there and when Brett and Ralph looked at the cars in the classic Trans Am it was all the cars and guys they raced against.
Ralph said that it was not until they had chopped the car up and bought all the parts back that they really found out its history and would have thought twice if they had known. "It was 3 year old championship winning car and those crazy kiwis chopped it up for parts" was what the Yanks said.

[Rod Grimwood]

As you can see there was alot of re-frabrication work for Lindsay to do get it all together.

Alot of the parts ended up in the Mazda and then Ralphs RX.

[Rod Grimwood]

Commodore dash top and Camaro dash bottom, the same unit.
Note the 2 switchs on the left.

[John McKechnie]

Looking to the 2 January meetings-
I will be sending the regs to drivers I have on my lists, if any else want to enter please contact me..
Most important-
Tasman Revival- 1st weekend-entries will be cut off week before.

Festival , 2nd weekend- cut off is DECEMBER 16.

Got that......week before Christmas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Entry is $395 up to 16 December, after that a late fee makes it $441.
One competitor free pass per entry.
Extra up to 3 tickets are discounted.
And entries for second weekend must be pre-paid ,not on the day.
So if you want to run on the BIG track for $395 get your entry in 16 December- week before Xmas.
Check classes at-http:
//www.motorsportentry.com/

[John McKechnie]

People seem to be having problems getting entries in for the 2 January meetings.
, I have had 4 inquires saying they cant find Historic Sports Sedans Class on the regs.
Our class is incorrectly not shown on the list
We are running both weekends and to get details for entry please go to
.
http://www.motorsportentry.com/index.php/ccentry/action/add/selectedEventId/236/

This is the Motorsport entry page and shows what classes are racing and how to enter.

[John McKechnie]

For the entries to the Ken Smith Festival- 20th January- second weekend of the HD racing.
Cut off date for $395 is 16th- Friday.
After that date , entries will be more-

The entry closing date at normal fees is Friday 16th December 2016 at 5.00pm.
Entries received after the normal fee closing date may be subject to late fee of $40.00 including GST.
NZFMR may accept entries beyond the stated closing date should special circumstances prevail

[nigel watts]

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[Steve Holmes]

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I remember that Peter Meadows Corvette. It was a monster. I wonder what happened to it?

[John McKechnie]

Think i remember -Someone ( Dale? ) mentioned, on a very early thread, it was seen scrapped and abandoned at Pidgeon Mountain Motors long ago.
"He grabbed some parts off it" ...comes to mind.
Does this sound familiar?

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks John, actually I'm sure you are right. I vaguely remember that now you mention it.

[duncan fox]

Thanks John, actually I'm sure you are right. I vaguely remember that now you mention it.

Twas me , the car was reposessed by Southern Districts towing and the engine and trans disappeared. I got the balance and took it home to Pigeon Mountain, I didn't ask too many questions... and parted it out. the alloy 9inch diff head went to Mr Mathers I kept all the brakes and gradually sold it all off I dumped the frame IIRC the body wasn't there either.

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Duncan, great info. Was Peter the last person to race it, or did it race after his time with it?

[duncan fox]

Steve I dont recall it being run by anyone other than Meadows I believe it was last with him before it was taken.

[Kiwiboss]

I got the full Floater 9inch diff out of it back in 1998 which is now in the Hoffman Mustang. Dale M

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks guys. Good to know, if a bit of a sad ending to a monster of a race car.

[Rod Grimwood]

Think Lyall is still waiting to be paid for body and paint work.

[duncan fox]

I think a lot of others are also Rod. My recollection of the car was that is wasn't built all that well , part of my thought process at the time would have been was it worth saving? and it would appear that it was not , but the brakes went to a good McLaren home.

[Rod Grimwood]

Lyall and his panel man Bruce Torrance cut body down middle and added about foot or so, then refab it shape it and painted, all in a hurry, and that was it. remember Lyall going crook later about not being looked after.
PS you no doubt be at Kenny's celeb Hampton Duncan.

[John McKechnie]

Ray got me thinking that I should post this-
Entries for Ken Smith Festival- so far.

Adrian Dobbe Vauxhall Viva 1969 Historic Sports Sedans
Campbell NEILL Chevrolet 39 Coup'e 1939 Historic Sports Sedans
Dennis Running Mazda RX8 1979 Historic Sports Sedans
Graeme Addis Charger Lola T190 1972 Historic Sports Sedans
Graeme Park Porsche 944S2 1989 Historic Sports Sedans
Graeme Park morris marina coupe 1974 Historic Sports Sedans
Graham Barnes ford capri 1970 Historic Sports Sedans
John McKechnie holden Torana XU1 V8 1972 Historic Sports Sedans
John Rush Ford Escort 1980 Historic Sports Sedans
Jon Telford Mazda RX8 1981 Historic Sports Sedans
Paul Burnet Holden Torana GTR-XU1 1972 Historic Sports Sedans
Peter Günther Renault Fuego 1981 Historic Sports Sedans
Peter Hooper Toyota Starlet 1982 Historic Sports Sedans
Robert Berggren Ford Capri 1974 Historic Sports Sedans
Robert Jack Ford Escort 1979 Historic Sports Sedans
Rod Grimwood Ford XA Falcon Coupe 1973 Historic Sports Sedans.
Roger Davis Holden Torana SLR 5000 1976 Historic Sports Sedans
Ron Findlay Ford Capri Perana 1970 Historic Sports Sedans

All of us are rapt at the opportunity to run on the big track

[John McKechnie]

At MG Manfield we trialed for one of the races -Grid number out of a hat. Pure luck.
Thats the way it was done at Waikaraka Park and other dirt tracks late 60s and early 70s when times were not important, overtaking skills were learned and developed.
Historic racing should not be all about times, where the fast cars are in front and race away- in my view
Craig Horns XU1 lead the field away- I said that winning this was better odds than Lotto and just like all Lotto winners, Craig kept this quiet.
All the guys said it was a great race,very clean, cars running with others that they didnt normally run with and neat that the start not time based.
Handicap racing is a different scenario- once again in my view- where the start and finish are based on lap times, that will be both our Sundays afternoon races
We will be doing the number out of hat draw again for our Saturdays afternoon races.

[John McKechnie]

Next weekend is Tasman Revival-
Friday is arrival, doco time, testing etc.
Sat- morning practice, race afternoon.
Sunday -2 races

[ERC]

Hope to catch up with you Friday John.

[John McKechnie]

Always a pleasure Ray

[John McKechnie]

Tomorrow- Friday will be doco, scrutineering.
Access to the track for unofficial practice will be $195.
Saturday morning it will all start

Tasman Revival Hampton Downs
14th 15th January

9.00 am Drivers Briefing
9.30am Practice starts Saturday
Qualifying 1 Historic Formula Fords 10 minutes
2 BMW Open 2 Litre 10 minutes
3 Classic Trial 10 minutes
4 BMW Open 10 minutes
5 Historic Sports Sedans 10 minutes
6 BMW E30 10 minutes
7 Historic Muscle Cars / Historic Sedans 10 minutes
8 Formula Libre / Sports Cars 10 minutes
9 Pre 65 15 minutes
10 Formula Junior 10 minutes
Race 1 Historic Formula Fords 8 laps
Race 2 BMW Open 2 Litre 8 laps
Race 3 Classic Trial 12 Minutes
Race 4 BMW Open 8 laps
Race 5 Historic Sports Sedans 8 laps Rolling Start
Race 6 BMW E30 8 laps
Race 7 Historic Muscle Cars / Historic Sedans 8 laps Rolling Start
Race 8 Formula Libre / Sports Cars 8 laps Rolling Start
Race 9 Pre 65 8 laps
Race 10 Formula Junior 8 laps
Sunday 15th January 9am Start
Race 11 Historic Formula Fords 8 laps
Race 12 BMW Open 2 Litre 8 lap Handicap
Race 13 Classic Trial 12 minutes
Race 14 BMW Open 8 laps
Race 15 Historic Sports Sedans 8 laps Rolling Start
Race 16 BMW E30 8 laps Delay Group
Race 17 Historic Muscle Cars / Historic Sedans 8 laps Rolling Start
Race 18 Formula Libre / Sports Cars 8 laps Rolling Start
Race 19 Pre 65 8 laps Handicap
Race 20 Formula Junior 8 laps
Race 21 Historic Formula Fords 8 laps
Race 22 BMW Open 2 Litre 8 laps Handicap
Race 23 Classic Trial 12 minutes
Race 24 BMW Open 8 laps Handicap
Race 25 Historic Sports Sedans 8 laps Rolling Start
Race 26 BMW E30 8 laps
Race 27 Historic Muscle Cars / Historic Sedans 8 laps Rolling Start
Race 28 Formula Libre / Sports Cars 8 laps Rolling Start
Race 29 Pre 65 8 laps Handicap
Race 30 Formula Junior 8 laps

[Rod Grimwood]

Have a great weekend, see you all soon

[ERC]

Sorry John, will now be Saturday only. See the office for a gate pass key for the Amon block compound.

[John McKechnie]

The race weekend starts again on Thursday, with practice Friday morning and qualifying afternoon.
Race 1 Sat morning, 2 Sat afternoon, same on Sunday
Lets all inject some summer into Saturdays meeting with Hawaiian shirts...the louder ,more colourful the better, mine needs a decent outing especially after Sundays dreary weather.
Summer- sun, racing slicks and slick shirts..........
Race program is 2 races Sat- rolling start
Sunday- 3 grid number out of hat,rolling start .4-Handicap standing start, flag drop.

[John McKechnie]

The races for our Historic Sports Sedans this weekend on the BIG International Circuit are 6 laps,

[Growler]

Schedule for the weekend.
https://hamptondowns.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/10/NZFMR-EVENT-SCHEDULE-V6.pdf

[ERC]

Couple of errors in the programme! I don't think Tony Olissoff would be running the FJ in the ERC group.

Poor old Adrian Dobbe, tripped over a tow rope and can't drive. Angus Fogg will be in car 40...

Graham Park fired up that fantastic mid engine Marina V8...


Edited Saturday.

[John McKechnie]

Sun is looking good for tomorrow
Saturday is Hawaian Shirt Day
Gt out your loudest and summery shirt,
Pass it on..................

[ERC]

Graeme's Morris Marina well on the way. Sounded awesome too! Love the orange tinted windows - also on Graeme's Porsche.



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Sorry, spelt it Graham earlier.

Had a PM on here from Dave Smith in the UK, about the British equivalents harking back to the Super Saloon days and also Modsports. His website featured the Bill Shaw 4.5 Rover, using my photograph, picked up from here.

Dave is also creating a web page devoted to the late Mick Hill's creations, the Janglia, V8 Capri, VW Chev, Skoda etc., so maybe the NZ Sports Sedan contingent can be represented with a page!

[Spgeti]

Just stunning....well done Graham.

[Grant Sprague]

Yes well done Graham , this is very cool , I only met Graham last weekend I got a tour of his Porsche we had a great chat about the Marina .. as it was not there last weekend , have fun was nice to catch up .

[John McKechnie]

Would any one out there have a right front guard for a XA, also grille, front valance that I can get from them?
I have a spare guard , but it has deteriorated in the past 6 years- dont want to do XB front.
please pm me,

[Steve Holmes]

Did your Falcon suffer damage at the weekend John? Sorry to hear that, parts for these Aussie muscle cars are getting so much harder to find.

[John McKechnie]

Certainly would not want it worse, car still drives- just some panel replacement.

[Steve Holmes]

Sorry to hear that John. I hate seeing beautiful cars damaged.

[ERC]

Chin up John. You aren't the first Series coordinator to have had the bad luck to get the car badly damaged through no fault of his own... Sad that it often seems to happen those who least deserve it. Life ain't fair.

[John McKechnie]

On a more happier note-
Cam Neil in his 1939 Chev Coupe got the Prize for Most Deserving at the Festival.
Also Graeme Addis won Sunday mornings Handicap race, first win in a long time and had some Camera time,

[John McKechnie]

Time to reflect on lifes ironies.
My XA was the race winner of the Sunday afternoon race-
- and I was not the driver.
- and Driftee crossed the finish line backwards

[Jac Mac]

That all sounds a bit Grim John, I take it you know to include XA Utes in your search criteria for front half coupe parts.

[John McKechnie]

Hi Jac...this time round its all standard frontal saloon parts- so its not too sad a Grim.
I do have spare ute doors and a full set of glass, and one right rear quarter which hopefully will stay collecting dust..........that would have been a real Grim Grim
BTW- AB would have loved hearing the Monaro running and sucking 100 grade through its 4X 48 IDAs again.

[John McKechnie]

Actually. not all people appreciated the Monaro.
It was tucked in a marquee , safe from the weather.
I went later on to check on it , glad that I did as it turned out
It wasnt where I left it and there was a barbeque going on.
Apparently Monaro was where they wanted to hold the party, so it was pushed out in the rain...... with the window open.
Dont worry about telling the owner.
Twas a long push uphill to find a place I could leave it when guys are watching, drinking and telling you...."shouldnt take a car to a race meeting if you cant drive it"

This got to me more than what happened to the XA Coupe

[AMCO72]

John, I hope you gave these guys a few Russian expletives !!!!!!! Who were these plonkers......

[Spgeti]

That is very sad and disrespectful of a persons property. Perhaps you should name and shame the group but unfortunatley not all of their group are like that.

[nigel watts]

Very sorry to hear that John.
I would have thought that the motor sport fraternity were above that sort of juvenile nonsense.
They deserve to be named and shamed.
Your cars are a credit to you and we all [except for those dickheads] appreciate the work and money you put into them for our enjoyment.
Keep smiling

[John McKechnie]

Car for Sale-
If any one wants to get in to racing Historics car - my Holden Torana LJ GTR V8 is for sale
Has Schedule K with MSNZ designated number, and COD.
Recently competed at 3 race meetings with no problems.
If you want to run in Historic Sports Sedans straight away at Legends of Speed and Barry Algie Memorial at Taupo then pm me.
Car is ready to race.
Will list full details in Cars for Sale,and also on Trademe

[SPman]

Apparently Monaro was where they wanted to hold the party, so it was pushed out in the rain...... with the window open.

I'm gobsmacked! I didn't think there were still self-centred, egotistical arseholes like that around who would pull a shitty stunt like that!