Race Car Transporters of the Past

[Terry S]

For some strange reason I have always been fascinated by race car transporters.

One of my early recollections is of Bob Jane's F100 mini semi with the Jaguars E type and MK11 on the back.
One race morning (probably 1963) for some reason it was parked outside Brian Foley's premises in Caringbah (southern Sydney). We naturally had to stop and check it out. It looked so professional and big time.

Steve suggested in a post yesterday that a thread on this topic would be good, so I thought would start it with a site I acccidently came across recently which has the most awesome incredible series of photos.

try http://www.hardtuned.com/feature/htshorts/img/ractrans.html

If this doesn't work the long way is:
hardtuned.com
go down to hardtuned features
click on "hardtuned photo series and commentary"
click on "archive of the Race Transporter of the day"

There are I think four Australian photos:
- Frank Matich's team, I think may be at top of Mt Panorama
- Anlgia and Mustang on back of semi. I think this is Tasmanian Don Elliot's team. Don't know location
- John Rhodins Sprite and Super 7 I think in the park opposite his premises on Parramatta Rd
- The BRM team leaving WArwick Farm

Amongst my favorites are:
- "Austin 750 race trailer"
- "Pete LOvely's Lotus 49"
- "Rapid transport in 1928"
- Citroen haulers near the end

Also note the Maserati car Carrier circa 1963.
Compare this with Scarab transporter and recently auctioned ex Cobra transporter which were supposed to be ex Maserati. You will see that in the later two the cars are not over the drivers cabin.

As I said earlier some absolutely fascinating examples of the past.

[Ellis]

As mentioned by Terry

Don Elliots from Tas...Don Elliot Transport...
The Mustang and Truck have been restored by current owner and trailer being replicated
Its at Symmons Plains in Tas

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/ElliotMustang-Anglia13onTruck_zps0c927af6.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/ElliotMustang-Anglia13onTruck_zps0c927af6.jpg.html)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/100_2485_zpsb9a03d40.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/100_2485_zpsb9a03d40.jpg.html)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/100_2486_zps15e51076.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/100_2486_zps15e51076.jpg.html)

The Anglia and a later Cortina have been replicated

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/Snapshot2012-11-1519-05-26_zps4caea536.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/Snapshot2012-11-1519-05-26_zps4caea536.jpg.html)

[Steve Holmes]

Awesome thread Terry. This is going to be great! And its not just transporters that are cool to see, any tow wagon from the period, be it a car or truck etc of interest. Great thing about old race car haulers was that the race car was almost always on display, unlike todays modern transporters.

Here is a more basic tow rig, HR Holden wagon hauling Rod Coppins' '67 Camaro, as part of Team Cambridge. Photo is by Terry Marshal..

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[Steve Holmes]

From the Peter Mellor Collection, here is Norm Beechey's transporter at Lakeside in 1965, with Norm's Mustang, Jim McKweon's Lotus Cortina, and Peter Manton's Cooper S all on board.

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[Steve Holmes]

As mentioned by Terry

Don Elliots from Tas...Don Elliot Transport...
The Mustang and Truck have been restored by current owner and trailer being replicated
Its at Symmons Plains in Tas

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/ElliotMustang-Anglia13onTruck_zps0c927af6.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/ElliotMustang-Anglia13onTruck_zps0c927af6.jpg.html)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/100_2486_zps15e51076.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/100_2486_zps15e51076.jpg.html)

The Anglia and a later Cortina have been replicated



I love that truck!

[Matty Dog]

Stuart Lewis-Evans and Tony Harris lowering their Cooper 500 Formula 3 racing car from the roof of a Land Rover at the Crystal Palace race circuit in September 1953.
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[Oldfart]

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This one? One of the early rated "One Ton Utes"
And yes the registered payload (if you are old enough for school stuff) was 2440 lbs, with a vehicle weight 2440 lbs, total 4880 on my reg papers! (1618cc)

[paul lancaster]

Ha that's classic man!

[Ellis]

The old primitive A frame towbar served many people well in frugal times...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/No40MMcIvorAFrameSP_zps08225281.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/No40MMcIvorAFrameSP_zps08225281.jpg.html)

and

Nothing like towing it with something thats suitable for spares in the event of problems

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/2011-02-18_265B800x6005D_zpse9754cb5.jpeg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/2011-02-18_265B800x6005D_zpse9754cb5.jpeg.html)

and

I would take any of these....dirt and all

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/1234680_444800775639889_33640866_n_zpse6893135.jpeg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/1234680_444800775639889_33640866_n_zpse6893135.jpeg.html)

[Shano]

That HR Holden must have struggled to keep that trailer/Camaro rig under control.

[Steve Holmes]

Loving this thread guys!

[Steve Holmes]

Stuart Lewis-Evans and Tony Harris lowering their Cooper 500 Formula 3 racing car from the roof of a Land Rover at the Crystal Palace race circuit in September 1953.
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This just scares the crap out of me!

[Steve Holmes]

The old primitive A frame towbar served many people well in frugal times...


Nothing like towing it with something thats suitable for spares in the event of problems

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/2011-02-18_265B800x6005D_zpse9754cb5.jpeg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/2011-02-18_265B800x6005D_zpse9754cb5.jpeg.html)



This is classic. Once a common site, its great to see images like this.

[Ellis]

The Moffat Transam didnt always ride in or on something befitting its status...but I dont think they are looking at the trailer.....Symmons Plains Tas

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/MoffatMustangTrailerSP_zps150e6178.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/MoffatMustangTrailerSP_zps150e6178.jpg.html)

[Ellis]

Fords at Bathurst 1970.......

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/FMCoTransporter1970_zpsa4f63d72.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/FMCoTransporter1970_zpsa4f63d72.jpg.html)

[fullnoise68]

That HR Holden must have struggled to keep that trailer/Camaro rig under control.

They also had an HR ute which on one of the trips to Levin tore the centre out of the clutch towing the Camaro south of Tokoroa and the Camaro was driven to Taupo. Try doing that these days. Rod used to have a mint red/white 56 Chev as a tow car for his earlier cars and if I recall correctly he had a J2 Bedford for towing the Firebird which may be in one of the photos in his thread.

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[Ellis]

Longford Tas cc 1960 Pits.....

The well heeled entrants/teams seemed to have a preference for Rice covered in trailers......

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/DSC00076_zps9789e379.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/DSC00076_zps9789e379.jpg.html)

[Shoreboy57]

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Always a favourite at Goodwood. Looks like an early Tyrrell transporter in background

[Shoreboy57]

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And something very special from 3 pointed star

[Ellis]

Probably the first race car transporter to come to Tasmania......Longford

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/934838_463590613725710_1440928315_n_zps08c1acd3.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/934838_463590613725710_1440928315_n_zps08c1acd3.jpg.html)

Repco Brabhams travelling in style....Longford Tas...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/url_zps7abab0d4.jpeg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/url_zps7abab0d4.jpeg.html)

[Shoreboy57]

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Wouldn't something like this this add to HMC?

[Malcolm McLeod]

Ha! Fred Courtney STILL tows the Northland Special on a A-frame.......it used to be behind whatever Jag he had handy, but now it's behind his Falcon.
The old primitive A frame towbar served many people well in frugal times...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/No40MMcIvorAFrameSP_zps08225281.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/No40MMcIvorAFrameSP_zps08225281.jpg.html)

and

Nothing like towing it with something thats suitable for spares in the event of problems

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/2011-02-18_265B800x6005D_zpse9754cb5.jpeg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/2011-02-18_265B800x6005D_zpse9754cb5.jpeg.html)

and

I would take any of these....dirt and all

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/1234680_444800775639889_33640866_n_zpse6893135.jpeg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/1234680_444800775639889_33640866_n_zpse6893135.jpeg.html)

[GeebeeNZ]

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It was not uncommon to see a single seater on the back of a VW. must have been a slow trip with 40 hp

[Michael Clark]

Bob Anderson was a F1 privateer in the 60s - I am pretty sure he transported his Brabham Climax around on a VW Kombi 'ute' like this.

[david5]

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Always a favourite at Goodwood. Looks like an early Tyrrell transporter in background

I can only dream in 1/43rd

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg30/david5_album/IMAG0417_zps03c9032d.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/david5_album/media/IMAG0417_zps03c9032d.jpg.html)

[Oldfart]

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How about this one?

[Shoreboy57]

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One for McLaren CanAm fans

[John A]

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One for McLaren CanAm fans

When I went to Indy with McLaren in 1973 we still used these slope backed trucks.

[Shoreboy57]

They must have made a great sight on the freeway

[Ellis]

Note the spare 5 slotters....needed to have a few spares of those

Wonder where the car is now...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/1013151_195220380637599_599682353_n_zps9fd97f7d.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/1013151_195220380637599_599682353_n_zps9fd97f7d.jpg.html)

[stubuchanan]

Bob Anderson was a F1 privateer in the 60s - I am pretty sure he transported his Brabham Climax around on a VW Kombi 'ute' like this.

I'm sure you are right Michael. Bob was an ex-motorcycle racer from what was then Rhodesia, who was killed in a testing accident at Silverstone in 1967. I recall photos of the VW with the Brabham on it, quite a tight fit.

Closer to home, here is Peter Hughes' VW transporter from 1969, with friends and family helping him to unload the Daimler V8 engined Lotus 25/33 at the NZ GP at Pukekohe.

http://s6.postimage.org/8616g14kx/Lotus_25_33_69_GP.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/s0n825jsd/full/)


The Kombi tray has been modified by the addition of a (?hinged) extension piece, with rope-cleats, for a canvas cover, presumably. The attitude (?altitude) of the front end of the Kombi is a bit alarming, I wonder how badly it handled on the road.

Stu Buchanan

[Oldfart]

Ha! Fred Courtney STILL tows the Northland Special on a A-frame.......it used to be behind whatever Jag he had handy, but now it's behind his Falcon.

And he got pinged for towing "an un-registered vehicle" on the way home from Leadfoot. Still no legal decision on this. The legislation states that you can temporarily tow an unregistered vehicle. Argument goes like this. It is not always on the back of the Falcon which would be permanent, so it must be temporary. This was suggested by LTSA as a defence. As I said, no decision so far.

[mid-year]

Note the spare 5 slotters....needed to have a few spares of those

Wonder where the car is now...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/1013151_195220380637599_599682353_n_zps9fd97f7d.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/1013151_195220380637599_599682353_n_zps9fd97f7d.jpg.html)

Hi Ellis,65E must surely be out there somewhere.I presume this was the car that hit the wall at A.I.R. and the damage was certainly repairable.It is always going to be the one that got away.

Pete.

[Fandatstick]

Is this for Real?!
Stuart Lewis-Evans and Tony Harris lowering their Cooper 500 Formula 3 racing car from the roof of a Land Rover at the Crystal Palace race circuit in September 1953.
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[John B]

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One for McLaren CanAm fans

Spark Models plan to produce a 1:43rd model of this McLaren transporter.

Pre-orders accepted at www.spr-models.co.nz (http://www.spr-models.co.nz)

[John B]

These two classy Italian transporters were constructed on Fiat 642RN bus chassis by Bartoletti in Modena. They sold them to both Maserati and Ferrari in the late 50's and early 60's.

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1:43rd models of these two are available from SPR Models (http://www.spr-models.co.nz/brands/brumm)

[conrod]

These two classy Italian transporters were constructed on Fiat 642RN bus chassis by Bartoletti in Modena. They sold them to both Maserati and Ferrari in the late 50's and early 60's.

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1:43rd models of these two are available from SPR Models (http://www.spr-models.co.nz/brands/brumm)

Pretty sure one of these Fiat transporters sold last year at auction in the US. It had been fully restored, and fetched a whopping US$990K!!..

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2012/08/06/carroll-shelbys-cobra-transporter-heads-to-auction/

http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1053041

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[Terry S]

Awesome thread Terry. This is going to be great! And its not just transporters that are cool to see, any tow wagon from the period, be it a car or truck etc of interest. Great thing about old race car haulers was that the race car was almost always on display, unlike todays modern transporters.

Here is a more basic tow rig, HR Holden wagon hauling Rod Coppins' '67 Camaro, as part of Team Cambridge. Photo is by Terry Marshal..

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This is my first attempt to post a photo using the convoluted instructions
I love this photo of Norm's Impalas. So typical of 50's & 60's to use big American V8's as tow cars
http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21947&d=1380697569

[Robert Bailey]

My father has many photos of the 50s racing in VIC,one day i will upload onto the net,as a teaser he has a photo of his Studebaker Golden Hawk towing by tow rope his Lago Talbot T26 to the 1956 Albert park AGP.

[Terry S]

Bob Anderson was a F1 privateer in the 60s - I am pretty sure he transported his Brabham Climax around on a VW Kombi 'ute' like this.

Bob Anderson's Brabham Climax at 1966 Dutch GP
http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21956&d=1380756034

[Terry S]

Team Lotus in tough times?

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid

[IMG]http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22018&d=1380933606

It is remarkable to see a Mini Moke towing a race car. I don't think I have ever see one tow a box trailer let alone a Lotus 47 race car.

The car on the back in 2nd shot is a Lotus 12 I believe, but could be wrong.

[Terry S]

Team Lotus in tough times?

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid

[IMG]http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22018&d=1380933606

It is remarkable to see a Mini Moke towing a race car. I don't think I have ever see one tow a box trailer let alone a Lotus 47 race car.

The car on the back in 2nd shot is a Lotus 12 I believe, but could be wrong.

A second go... one day I may master this stupid process for loading photos
http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22019&d=1380933636

[Terry S]

It's always handy to have a few spares....

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22023&d=1380959616

[Terry S]

how many of you have seen an MG pickup?

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22027&d=1381022833

[Terry S]

The Geoghegans on the move

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22031&d=1381098104

In the good old days the main cars came on open transporters
In this pic in addition to the Mustang there is probably a Lotus single seater plus maybe a Lotus 23 sports in the trailer.
All so very simple
Contrast this with recent release from Triple 8 V& supercar team that there new B Double transporter carried 53 TONNES of gear including the two race cars to each meeting. Yes' 53 Tonnes.
I personally think this is obscene and obnoxious and indicates how out of touch with reality V8 supercars is.
The racing was BETTER in the old days when Geoghegan, Beechey, Moffat and Jane arrived on open trucks.

[928]

was even better when they drove the race cars to the circuit, raced, then drove home.. no bumping and boring then

[Terry S]

A second go... one day I may master this stupid process for loading photos
http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22019&d=1380933636

I didn't realise this Moke and Lotus 47 was so "famous". Photo taken in 1968.
Apparently Spark made this model of it
Very thoughtfully the "Gold Leaf Team Lotus" signage has been blurred so we don't get tempted to take up smoking.....

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22082&d=1381205753

[GD66]

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Keen !

[Terry S]

Supposedly the world's first race car transporter. Built by Mercedes in 1924. Prior to this race cars had been driven to and from on the road. Mercedes new Team Manager the legendary Alfred Neubauer ordered this be changed by building transporters.
This is on the way to 1924 Monza GP
Noter how front wheels of race car had to go over the triangular structure

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22084&d=1381267474

[Oldfart]

Terry, your photos are not showing.

[Rod Grimwood]

Don't give up, these are great.

[Robert Bailey]

I've scene a photo of it at a Mallala Gold Star meeting.

[Robert Bailey]

Years latter John Shepherd built a trailer the same to transport his Lotus22/23 cars around,nice touch and behind a Holden Caprice.

[conrod]

An ever so slight diversion off the topic title,as it is not a race transporter of the past, but rather a retro styled transporter that I am building at the present moment.

A 1975 Ford Transit LWB "Jumbo", it will be powered by a 4.0L Turbo engine from a Ford Territory. Rear windows will be panelled over, and will look absolutely stock from the outside. Will be used as a tow vehicle for a very special old Ford that is currently being built. Still a lot of work to do, but all of the major pieces are in place:)

Conrad

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/conrod1/160-6008_IMG.jpg (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/conrod1/media/160-6008_IMG.jpg.html)


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/conrod1/163-6352_IMG.jpg (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/conrod1/media/163-6352_IMG.jpg.html)

[BMCBOY]

I took this shot while travelling on the freeway to Laguna Seca in 1982.
It would be nice to have these parked in the shed - including the retro transporter

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[George Sheweiry]

Hey Terry, could this be the early Mercedes transporter you were referring to



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[George Sheweiry]

This is the Cheetah Race car transporter built on a 300 mercedes chassis around 1960 can you spot the chev El Camino roof section grafted in to the rest of the custom aluminium body, powered by a 327 and powerslide auto


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[George Sheweiry]

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Apparently this VW artic was used to tow a drag car and was seen at Calder park raceway, note the XY GT in the background

[Ellis]

From Facebook ...In China
Cars are 2 abreast on top row....wouldnt be much good in Tas or NZ with winding roads.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/1378025_10151606614641442_381358343_n_zps808c46fc.jpeg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/1378025_10151606614641442_381358343_n_zps808c46fc.jpeg.html)

[Ellis]

From Fb...This was Ron Hodgsons advertising should his car have won Bathurst in 73....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/HodgsonXU1stransporterBathurst73_zps177e1457.jpeg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/HodgsonXU1stransporterBathurst73_zps177e1457.jpeg.html)

[ERC]

One of the most famous early race car transporters.

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[stubuchanan]

From Fb...This was Ron Hodgsons advertising should his car have won Bathurst in 73....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/HodgsonXU1stransporterBathurst73_zps177e1457.jpeg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/HodgsonXU1stransporterBathurst73_zps177e1457.jpeg.html)

The above reminded me of the 10-car Transporter and trailer used in the early days of Formula Junior in 1959. It was run by Scuderia Madunina of Milan, who provided transport, mechanical and admin services for FJunior runners in Europe. Mostly Italians or Europeans in old-tech front-engined Stanguellini, Taraschi, Volpini etc.

http://s6.postimg.org/fstjbwmwh/FJ_Sc_Madunina_59_Trlr_Rig.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

I don't know what became of it when the British took over FJunior with light good-handling rear-engined cars.

Photo quality a bit dodgy, I'm sorry.

Stu

[Reeceracer]

Hi All, Thought I'd throw a pic up of our rig - present time but still a bit old skool....and no - it doesn't have the petrol 4pot anymore. Thank goodness...
Reece Killingback22289

[John B]

I didn't realise this Moke and Lotus 47 was so "famous". Photo taken in 1968.
Apparently Spark made this model of it
Very thoughtfully the "Gold Leaf Team Lotus" signage has been blurred so we don't get tempted to take up smoking.....

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22082&d=1381205753

Here's a shot with the Gold Leaf signage unblurred...

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[conrod]

Hi All, Thought I'd throw a pic up of our rig - present time but still a bit old skool....and no - it doesn't have the petrol 4pot anymore. Thank goodness...
Reece Killingback22289

I saw your rig at Hampton Downs earlier this year at the Festival (or was it last year?) Looks like a real minter! What engine is in it now?

Conrad

[Reeceracer]

When I got it a few years back it already had a Mazda 3 litre diesel with 5 speed & splitter out of a Titan. That went alright but then I threw a Subaru turbo/skyline intercooler at it and it was like night and day! 20 Mins quicker from the Mount to Taupo racetrack with less fuel and gear changes! Why they made diesels without turbos is beyond me.....Nothing worse than a slow camper - there's enough on the roads already....:p
Reece.

[Laurie Callender]

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This is probably my favorite Speedway photo so should go in this thread.
Johnny Missan on left (the inventor of three quarter midget (TQ) racing in NZ used to travel down to NP to race at Waiwakahio Speedway in the mid 50's. Thats my father on the right, Johnny Callender.

[Steve Holmes]

Oh man, I love this thread! These images are just so fantastic!

[Steve Holmes]

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This is probably my favorite Speedway photo so should go in this thread.
Johnny Missan on left (the inventor of three quarter midget (TQ) racing in NZ used to travel down to NP to race at Waiwakahio Speedway in the mid 50's. Thats my father on the right, Johnny Callender.

Laurie, this is a great photo! Is that your dads Ford coupe? Looks like a 1938?

[Shoreboy57]

I wonder if they upgraded the engine on the Moke. Surely wasn't standard

[Jac Mac]

Might have been one of the 'TWINNI MOKE' two engine versions made for the army.
I wonder if they upgraded the engine on the Moke. Surely wasn't standard

[Laurie Callender]

No not my Dad's, probably Johnny Missen's vehicle.
Looks like they had personalised plates in those days too, lol.

[Steve Holmes]

Yeah, certainly a neat place Laurie!

[Terry S]

The missing photo of the Stillwell transporter

http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22098&d=1381277838

The only other photo I have seen of Stillwell transporter. At Longford with Stillwell & Brabham in early 60's.
It is obvious that even for champions that self catering was the order of the day in those times


http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22720&d=1385099259

[Andrew Metford]

Hi All, Thought I'd throw a pic up of our rig - present time but still a bit old skool....and no - it doesn't have the petrol 4pot anymore. Thank goodness...
Reece Killingback22289

Is that the ex Ian McKeown Imp?

[Terry S]

One of the most famous early race car transporters.

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"Famous" is very subjective and depends on one's exposures, country, toys etc
In my humble opinion the three most famous transporters are:
1......The Ecurie Ecosse one shown above in post #19. So many of us had the Corgi model when we were kids (wist I still had it)
Was my first exposure to racing. The beautifully restored model shown at events like Goodwood revival sets the memory going.

2......The Ferrari 3 car open transporters as shown above in post # 37. Here a model but much later than the Corgi and for serious collectors only. I don't think anyone had one as a toy. Were famous because seen carrying such beautiful cars in exotic locations.
I will post some photos later.

3......The Mercedes Renntransporter as shown above in post # 20. Described as "the fastest race car transporter in the world".
Made famous by its replica and the models of it. I will describe further in a separate post.

I believe the BRM transporter shown is very similar to those used by the English F1 teams of the time such as Cooper, Brabham, Lotus etc and is not "famous" by itself.

[Growler]

Is that the ex Ian McKeown Imp?

I saw this at the V8 Supercar Meeting at Pukekohe at the beginning of the year.
Yes it is...but doesn't run the Nissan anymore. I can't remember what motor is in it now.

[Terry S]

[QUOTE=Ellis;34203]Probably the first race car transporter to come to Tasmania......Longford

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/934838_463590613725710_1440928315_n_zps08c1acd3.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/934838_463590613725710_1440928315_n_zps08c1acd3.jpg.html)

Ellis, having a look at other things in the paddock:
-......The white Dodge truck. Brian Foley and Laurie Stewart used to have one of these for transporting their two Minis. Could this be it? Tyres on top may be a clue.
-......The Beechey car in background. Most likely Chevy Nova, but could be Monaro 327.

[Oldfart]

22766

How about this one?

[Oldfart]

Terry, you really are going to have to get on top of the photo posting, missed yet again!

[Ellis]

[QUOTE=Ellis;34203]Probably the first race car transporter to come to Tasmania......Longford

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/934838_463590613725710_1440928315_n_zps08c1acd3.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/934838_463590613725710_1440928315_n_zps08c1acd3.jpg.html)

Ellis, having a look at other things in the paddock:
-......The white Dodge truck. Brian Foley and Laurie Stewart used to have one of these for transporting their two Minis. Could this be it? Tyres on top may be a clue.
-......The Beechey car in background. Most likely Chevy Nova, but could be Monaro 327.



Terry

Longford 1968
Chevvy Nova
and
Foley and Stewart were entrants so maybe their truck

The Beechey and McKeown cars never competed as they were late entries and needed other competitors to agree to allow them to compete which wasnt forthcoming.

[Impala 65 SS]

Big transporter,on the Desert Road heading to Manfield 22785

[Oldfart]

On my PC the photos appear to be posted correctly, as clearly visible.
How then am I supposed to know they haven't posted correctly?
Am I missing some obvious sign?
I always look at the site afterwards to check.

[Rod Grimwood]

On my PC the photos appear to be posted correctly, as clearly visible.
How then am I supposed to know they haven't posted correctly?
Am I missing some obvious sign?

Sorry Terry but a lot of info but no photos

[John McKechnie]

The same here Terry, no pics.
Suggest email these to Steve Holmes for him to format and post.

[Terry S]

Why is it that NO ONE has advised why I can see my photos on the forum but no one else can ?
I would have thought that by now Old Fart or someone would have responded, just to assist a newcomer.

I see that the problem of posting photos is not unique to this forum. On the Autosport forum (which appears to use similar software) there is a thread which has had over 280 replies since June 2004 of people wanting advice on the frustrating aim of posting photos.
It appears a lot of people give up in disgust and gems of photos remain in albums or drawers never to be seen.

In this forum I have discovered there appears to be two ways of posting photos:
- I have attempted (unsuccessfully I am told) to follow the instructions in FAQ under "How do I upload photos"
- I have also discovered a thread started by Steve Holmes on 20 May 2011 "How to post images"
This advises a different process of going through the "Go Advanced" button

Why two methods, which is better, which is most used?

Does anyone use "Tinypic", which I gather has its faults.

I believe what this forum most needs is an active administrator.

[Shoreboy57]

One for Dale Mathers or Grant Aitken perhaps- a replica but nonetheless drop dead gorgeous

Sorry I can't help Terry S. Had no problems with Steve's instructions 22819

[Frosty5]

I believe what this forum most needs is an active administrator.

Whoa Neddy!!!

Hi Terry, I see you joined TRS in Aug this year. Perhaps you are not aware of what has gone before you. Steve Holmes got this forum rolling and it has gone from strength to strength, he is an unpaid guy with a passion for things "motor racing, historic" etc and with his knowledge which I would suggest, is unequaled in this forum. The research he does to post articles here is extensive and FREE so I think you are drawing a very long bow to suggest an active administrator is required, when you are having difficulty posting your photos. There are thousands of photos on this forum and how did they get there, by members who followed the instructions or asked someone with a little more knowledge than themselves for assistance. So I would respectfully suggest that before blowing your exhaust big time you perhaps call on someone to guide you through the process. Haven't seen anyone on this thread with the sort of difficulties you are experiencing, maybe it could be your computer - just a thought. But please remember the administrator is an unpaid volunteer who needs to earn a living by other means. Good luck.
Dave Graham

[John McKechnie]

Terry, I had problems doing this .Problem was compressing. Down load and posting easy.
try this for resizing.-http://compressnow.com/

[stubuchanan]

Terry, I had problems doing this .Problem was compressing. Down load and posting easy.
try this for resizing.-http://compressnow.com/

I found similar problems or annoyances with downsizing pictures and tried using an on-line picture storage system, (PostImage in my case, others use Image Shack etc) which worked just fine. These have simple image downsizing systems, and rather than just using a resizing system and then the forum's uploading system, it should be easier to use one system only.

Also the "preview" facility on Roaring Season allows you to see(and fix) any mistakes or mis-hits without sharing them with the world.

Stu

[Oldfart]

Old Fart why can't you be constructive and assist, rather than just being negative?
You don't answer my queries, so how can I get on "top of photo posting".
I am mererly trying to get it right, with no assistance.

A very frustrated Terry

I have just got back to read this and man have you pissed me off with this post. All I have done is follow instructions as posted. When the red symbol shows I know the photo is too big and I try again.
I posted that your photos were not there so you would know, that's not being negative!

[Terry S]

Bonham's Ecurie Ecosse auction sale

At a Bonham's sale in London on 1 December (last Sunday) there was an incredible sale of Eciurie Ecosse gear.
The total for the transporter and 7 cars was AUD 15.8M.

The famous Commer transporter (as shown in post # 19 above) went for AUD 3.22M.
A Jaguar D Type went for AUD 4.62M and a C Type for 5.22M.
All three of these went to the one American buyer!

A surprise was the 1961 Sprite (seen on the top front in post # 19) which went for AUD 111,000.

PS I have now created own thread for this as I believe it deserves it

Full details are at
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20934

[Rod Grimwood]

http://www.resizemypicture.com/

Terry try this system.
Browse, libraries, pick the photo, then put in size you think, when done put in a Resize Folder (so you know they are done.)

photos can not be bigger that 180kb when resized to go on site.

Best luck

[Steve Holmes]

Why is it that NO ONE has advised why I can see my photos on the forum but no one else can ?
I would have thought that by now Old Fart or someone would have responded, just to assist a newcomer.

I see that the problem of posting photos is not unique to this forum. On the Autosport forum (which appears to use similar software) there is a thread which has had over 280 replies since June 2004 of people wanting advice on the frustrating aim of posting photos.
It appears a lot of people give up in disgust and gems of photos remain in albums or drawers never to be seen.

In this forum I have discovered there appears to be two ways of posting photos:
- I have attempted (unsuccessfully I am told) to follow the instructions in FAQ under "How do I upload photos"
- I have also discovered a thread started by Steve Holmes on 20 May 2011 "How to post images"
This advises a different process of going through the "Go Advanced" button

Why two methods, which is better, which is most used?

Does anyone use "Tinypic", which I gather has its faults.

I believe what this forum most needs is an active administrator.

OK, Ok. Just as Frosty said in Post #101, I need to earn a living, just like everyone one else. I've got bills to pay, mortgage etc, and far from actually making any money, The Roaring Season actually costs me money. It exists because of my enthusiasm for motor racing history. I've been away travelling for much of the last couple of months working on a book, so really haven't had any time for this website. But your suggestion for a more active administrator is a great idea! Know someone who wants to work all day for free and understands the ins and outs of the Vbulletin program? Send 'em my way!

I did email you a couple of months ago about the issues you were having, but didn't get a response. Essentially there is an image size limit on the site, as you're discovering. Its not something unique to this site, its in place on every forum the world over. This has to be put in place to keep overall size of the website down as much as possible, and to allow pages to load quickly for viewers.

Looking at the photos you have posted, there are two problems. One is obviously the file size. The other is the file type. Firstly, the reason some people aren't able to see some of/all of your images is because they're 'jpeg' images. Some systems don't recognise jpeg images for some reason. My computer does, so I can see the images you've posted. But looking at the comments here, some peoples systems don't recognise jpegs. This is a really easy fix. In the folder on your computer where your images are stored, highlight one of your images by clicking on it once with your cursor. Then right-click. You'll get a drop-down that gives you a bunch of different options. One of these will say 'Rename'. Click that. The name of the image file should now be highlighted in blue. Click in the area on the word jpeg between the 'e' and 'g'. Then hit 'Backspace' on your keyboard so you're deleting the 'e'. This will turn it into a jpg file, which virtually every system seems to support. Then people will be able to view your images. This issue has nothing to do with The Roaring Season. Its simply that some computers don't recognise jpeg files.

OK, as for resizing images. Unless you have a program for resizing images, such as Adobe Photoshop, my best suggestion would be to use one of the resizing websites as suggested by others here, such as Imageshack or Tinypic. I personally use Tinypic when posting images on other forums. I find it really easy to use, and I so rarely post photos on other forums these days its the simplest option for me. Sometimes with Tinypic, however, your photos can just disappear off a website at random. Essentially, what is happening is that even though you're viewing the image on one website, say, for example, the Autosport website, the image itself is actually being hosted by Tinypic. Sounds confusing, but I can't really explain it better.

Most forums the world over use a similar program, this site included. If you can figure out how to post images here, you can post them on most other forums too.

[Terry S]

OK, Ok. Just as Frosty said in Post #101, I need to earn a living, just like everyone one else. I've got bills to pay, mortgage etc, and far from actually making any money, The Roaring Season actually costs me money. It exists because of my enthusiasm for motor racing history. I've been away travelling for much of the last couple of months working on a book, so really haven't had any time for this website. But your suggestion for a more active administrator is a great idea! Know someone who wants to work all day for free and understands the ins and outs of the Vbulletin program? Send 'em my way!

I did email you a couple of months ago about the issues you were having, but didn't get a response. Essentially there is an image size limit on the site, as you're discovering. Its not something unique to this site, its in place on every forum the world over. This has to be put in place to keep overall size of the website down as much as possible, and to allow pages to load quickly for viewers.

Looking at the photos you have posted, there are two problems. One is obviously the file size. The other is the file type. Firstly, the reason some people aren't able to see some of/all of your images is because they're 'jpeg' images. Some systems don't recognise jpeg images for some reason. My computer does, so I can see the images you've posted. But looking at the comments here, some peoples systems don't recognise jpegs. This is a really easy fix. In the folder on your computer where your images are stored, highlight one of your images by clicking on it once with your cursor. Then right-click. You'll get a drop-down that gives you a bunch of different options. One of these will say 'Rename'. Click that. The name of the image file should now be highlighted in blue. Click in the area on the word jpeg between the 'e' and 'g'. Then hit 'Backspace' on your keyboard so you're deleting the 'e'. This will turn it into a jpg file, which virtually every system seems to support. Then people will be able to view your images. This issue has nothing to do with The Roaring Season. Its simply that some computers don't recognise jpeg files.

OK, as for resizing images. Unless you have a program for resizing images, such as Adobe Photoshop, my best suggestion would be to use one of the resizing websites as suggested by others here, such as Imageshack or Tinypic. I personally use Tinypic when posting images on other forums. I find it really easy to use, and I so rarely post photos on other forums these days its the simplest option for me. Sometimes with Tinypic, however, your photos can just disappear off a website at random. Essentially, what is happening is that even though you're viewing the image on one website, say, for example, the Autosport website, the image itself is actually being hosted by Tinypic. Sounds confusing, but I can't really explain it better.

Most forums the world over use a similar program, this site included. If you can figure out how to post images here, you can post them on most other forums too.

Thanks Steve, I alway try to be positive and constructive when it comes to problems.
Going forward, I have checked the files I posted and all appear to be JPG.

As to size, I see in the FAQ section that if I look under the "Attachment Window" there is a listing of file types and their maximum sizes. Where do I find this "Attachment Window" please?

I note that the photos I attempted to post appear to range from 7.8KB to 105.3KB. Should this be an issue for JPG files?

Having lots of images I would love to post I hope this can be resolved quickly for the benefit of viewers.

Thanks Terry

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Terry, can you please email some of the images to me: theroaringseason@gmail.com

[Robert Bailey]

Hi Guys,do we have any photos of the Dodge truck that Bob Jane used in the 70s?

[librules]

Hi Guys,do we have any photos of the Dodge truck that Bob Jane used in the 70s?

Go back one page on this thread, Rob and it's there is all its glory.

[Reeceracer]

Is that the ex Ian McKeown Imp?
Yep, I bought it about 10 years ago off Ian raced it in it's then current form (Nissan Imp) successfully for a few years.I then decided to give it a bit of an upgrade - the Nissan engine went into a classic rally car in Northland & the Jack Knight box was reunited with the Sidchrome Imp. I then mid-mounted a '98 Subaru WRX Sti engine & transaxle into it which has kept it a very well balanced little car but with a bit more go….We run it in NZGT where last year we ended up 2nd in the Championship despite missing the first round. Currently we are leading this year after 2 rounds of 7.
Reece Killingback.

[Rod Grimwood]

Just found this old photo of tow car and little Escort similar colours. When I first had Escort it was white and Ford blues and I had a Holden ute for work/tow in Bandag colours which were the same so looked pretty good.
(must have a photo somewhere as it was quite smart)
I was away and asked mate to touch up the Escort so Missus & Mate painted the Escort to match the Capri and be brighter for TV, so they told me when I saw it. (still like the white and blue)
The Capri was a bit of a trick tow car as it had a little warm 2ltr and was a German one with the bigger gear bag (manual of coarse) it also had adjustable rear air shocks done from inside car. Some reckoned I should have just taken the Capri and raced it. Was in missus name and she loved it and she got the tickets.

[225sloper]

OK not a old photo only a couple months ago,but still a very neat and tidy racecar transporter.2510825109

[Oldfart]

Thanks for the vote of confidence! No "wrath" intended, simply to try to help you with your efforts. Obviously very misplaced, especially seeing that many have managed what you couldn't. For that I am sorry as I am sure that you have stuff that we would all like to see. Get the chip off your shoulder. I see that Steve made an offer which has not borne fruit for you. I note that he has said that he has a real job, and I also have a bunch of photos with him that have yet to see the forum pages.
I have posted photos, it's not that hard, but definitely tedious.

[stubuchanan]

Thanks for the vote of confidence! No "wrath" intended, simply to try to help you with your efforts. Obviously very misplaced, especially seeing that many have managed what you couldn't. For that I am sorry as I am sure that you have stuff that we would all like to see. Get the chip off your shoulder. I see that Steve made an offer which has not borne fruit for you. I note that he has said that he has a real job, and I also have a bunch of photos with him that have yet to see the forum pages.
I have posted photos, it's not that hard, but definitely tedious.

Don't think it's even all that tedious, Oldfart.

http://s6.postimg.org/cepx54s1d/Uhlenhaut_s_High_Speed_Transporter.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
windows 7 screenshot (http://postimage.org/app.php)

Don't use the instructions on the Roaring Season, just cut and paste using one of the several online systems.
My son sent me this a few years ago - from a shop-window display of (in his words) "breathtakingly expensive model cars etc" in an arcade in Perth WA. The transporter was built around a Mercedes 300SL sports and could do over 100 mph.

Stu

[Kwaussie]

25110
I think I get it!

[Kwaussie]

Have to try another one!

25111

[Kwaussie]

You have to use the new tech. Terry S.!

25112

[Jac Mac]

You have to use the new tech. Terry S.!

25112

One pidgeon missing....hmmm, perhaps some Old Farts converted it to a pre 61 pidgeon racer. :)

[Oldfart]

Isn't it good that there is always someone to throw shit at from the mountain?

[Andrew Metford]

http://s6.postimg.org/cepx54s1d/Uhlenhaut_s_High_Speed_Transporter.jpg[/img] (http://postimage.org/)
windows 7 screenshot (http://postimage.org/app.php)

Don't use the instructions on the Roaring Season, just cut and paste using one of the several online systems.
My son sent me this a few years ago - from a shop-window display of (in his words) "breathtakingly expensive model cars etc" in an arcade in Perth WA. The transporter was built around a Mercedes 300SL sports and could do over 100 mph.

Stu

DO you know which arcade or shop in Perth? I can go and see if it's still there, or if they have any other exotics if you can give me some clues.

[stubuchanan]

DO you know which arcade or shop in Perth? I can go and see if it's still there, or if they have any other exotics if you can give me some clues.

This dates back to June 2010, when my son was working for a consultancy firm located in the GPO building ( in Murray St ?Mall) in the centre of Perth. He is now back in NZ, and I was talking to him today, but before I had seen your post on this thread. I don't seem to be able to raise him this evening, and I will be out of internet contact for about a week from tomorrow a.m.

However, his actuals words were "There's a series of display cases in one of the arcades I walk through on my way to work; I spotted this among a collection of terrifyingly expensive models of sports cars." I note from Perth maps that there are several arcades in the 2 streets just South of the GPO, maybe it is in one of these, and also, there is a very distinctive black and white tile pattern (looks like a crossword puzzle) reflected in the mirror at the back of the display case and also in the window surround.

Your Mission, therefore, will be to trawl very carefully up and down these arcades looking closely at the tiles you are walking on. I've never been to Perth, so this my best offer, unless my son contacts me before I go walkabout tomorrow.

Happy Hunting,

Stu Buchanan

[Ross Hollings]

Been there,can not remember Mall name but is attached to VERY expensive menswear shop.Great models.

[Ross Hollings]

Brain cells now joined up.............The company is called Parker & Co, Trinity Arcade which is between Hay St and St Georges Tce.Enjoy.

[stubuchanan]

Brain cells now joined up.............The company is called Parker & Co, Trinity Arcade which is between Hay St and St Georges Tce.Enjoy.

Yes, indeed. Son just rang and confirmed above. He also looked on Google Earth for a street view, but they didn't take a camera up the arcade. Word of advice to JAFA, if you find yourself in an underground shopping mall, back up and find the Hay St level. That's where it is, apparently.

Stu

[Andrew Metford]

OK cool. Just got back out on site so won't be back in town for a month but I will go and see what I can find when I get back.

[Andrew Metford]

Well I went to the Trinity Arcade this morning. Parker & Co are still there, and the display cases directly across from them are still there too :) There are 3 cases there, each has "Parker & Co" on them, so I guess they belong to the shop. Anyway, the Mercedes Benz transporter is long gone, but there is a nice selection of old models, lots of Mercs and a couple of interlopers, all for sale too if you wish. Excuse the phone photos.

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/JAFA851/Miscellaneous/20140625_091735_zpse80c2eaf.jpg (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/JAFA851/media/Miscellaneous/20140625_091735_zpse80c2eaf.jpg.html)

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/JAFA851/Miscellaneous/20140625_091746_zpsd4207e0b.jpg (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/JAFA851/media/Miscellaneous/20140625_091746_zpsd4207e0b.jpg.html)

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/JAFA851/Miscellaneous/20140625_091802_zpsed0f2f39.jpg (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/JAFA851/media/Miscellaneous/20140625_091802_zpsed0f2f39.jpg.html)

I can go back with a proper camera if anyone wishes to see better pics or of any particular car.

[Kwaussie]

Super models - great photos.
Here is the rear of a transporter that has a nice cargo!

25318

[rf84]

Mercedes Benz transporter was at Goodwood FOS this year.

[Kwaussie]

Not sure if this is a new build or a restoration of both vehicles - nice though!

25504

[Oldfart]

[QUOTE=Kwaussie;42067]Not sure if this is a new build or a restoration of both vehicles - nice though!

Actually both are new build. Inspired by the transporter used to carry the Lotus way back when. Both of these Vanguards are from IK Classics.

[khyndart in CA]

Terry,
I also have been interested in old competition car transportation and here are some photos of vehicles being taken to drag strips and race tracks etc. here in the US during the 60s and 70s and the last one is one being hauled away from the strip !
38640
Must be years ago as there is no freeway traffic.
38641
Don Prudhomme's vehicle.
38642
(Yellow was a popular colour back then. )
38643

38644

38645
This was a bad day at the track where things did not turn out as planned.
(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Before you can transport it you first have to get it in.
"Say Vern, I can't move the jack no more, can you start backin' the trailer up. I got everything else under control !"

38660

(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

If it does not fit in the transporter I will just drive it home !
38667

[khyndart in CA]

" Honey, I will not be home tonight because I am sleeping here in the camper and I am on engine duty."
38668

"But I promise that the next trip we go on we can go golfing together."
Vern.
38669

[khyndart in CA]

"Vern" did not want to spend too much on his trailer and he made every inch count !
38670

[khyndart in CA]

Some FORD transporters during the fifties, sixties and seventies.
38675
38676
38677
38678

(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

These are two of my favorite race cars being transported.
38679
McLaren M20 at Mosport in 1972.

38680
1970 Boss 302 Trans Am Mustang. (After restoration )


(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

July 5th weekend. 1970. French F1 Grand Prix at Clermont Ferrand..
The McLaren Team transporter and crew as they prepare for the race after tragically losing Bruce a month earlier.
Dan Gurney, who kindly filled in while Denny was recovering from burnt hands at Indianapolis is at the rear with McLaren M14A # 17.
Denny Hulme had returned to drive the McLaren M 14D-Cosworth # 19.
Tyler Alexander is in the doorway.
The other car on the transporter is a McLaren M7D # 16 with a Alfa Romeo T33. 3.0 V-8 engine driven by Andrea De Adamich.
These were very hard times for the team but they bravely battled on and never gave up.
38711


(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

More FORD transportation photos.
38724

38725

38726

[khyndart in CA]

I used to dread getting on the school bus at Kiwitahi but I think I was safer then than climbing on board some of these arrangements except the Porsche-Audi transporter !
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38728

38729

38730

38731


(Ken Hyndman )

[Bruce302]

Awesome pics Ken,

Thank you.

[John McKechnie]

The number 88 on the silver car is on the same angle as the ramp.
Neat Topolino, and when you see a real road going on they look so tiny.
They are the car version of the Shetland Pony and Shetland Dog

[khyndart in CA]

John,
Do you want me to try to contact the # 88 artist to come out and apply his skills to your Monaro ?
You could just park it on an incline in the driveway and he will take it from there !

[khyndart in CA]

It seems VW Kombis were a popular mode of transporter back in the sixties. Perhaps someone can explain why. It would not be for the handling or for speed !.
38750

38751

38752
Just in case you needed a support vehicle.

[John McKechnie]

Ken- In the Hippy era, the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers turned a Kombi into an Armadillo- I loaned Spagetti the details-looked impressive scuttling along the freeway . We dont need to mention what they were transporting in SoCal

[khyndart in CA]

I think some of these VW transporters were carrying loads a little bit more valuable than the Kombi !
38753

38754

38755
(Imagine finding this unattended in the parking lot ! A Williams FW 07 and a Lotus 49 well protected from the rain !)
(Note how popular VWs are in this photo. )


(Ken Hyndman )

[Allan]

And sometimes..........

38756

[khyndart in CA]

Here is a easier way of loading up.

https://youtu.be/28MRGe8dkx0

[Roger Dowding]

Here is a easier way of loading up.

https://youtu.be/28MRGe8dkx0

Ken, went to the Utube and it tells what the truck is very clever, Old Chevvy with front wheel drive Cadillac mechanicals ..cool ..

[khyndart in CA]

Roger,
Perhaps you could purchase and slightly modify this "Good ol' boy's" All Terrain Vehicle.
38757


KH

[khyndart in CA]

Roger,
Then you could have something like this set up in your driveway one day !
38779





KH

[khyndart in CA]

Or, here is another project.
1952 Studebakers.
38782
Transporter back in the day.

Now crouching in the desert in rattlesnake country.
38783
(Note the rear "suicide door" arrangement )


Ken H

[khyndart in CA]

Some transportation in the US.
1969 trailer of Dodge Daytonas.
38784


A great team and driver in the 1970s was the Wood Brothers and David Pearson.
This shows the 1973 Ford Mercury Montego always with # 21. Outside their humble shop in Stuart, Virginia.
38785




( Ken Hyndman )

[John McKechnie]

Ken- these Transporter pictures are absolutely brilliant, love the black/ white of Studes and Daytonnas.

[928]

in 1972 I nearly bought a 1970 plymouth super bird at the dealers in vancouver $4995 was the sticker price but they would do a deal. instead i bought a 1970 roadrunner for $2995. got that wrong

[Terry S]

Some transportation in the US.
1969 trailer of Dodge Daytonas.
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A great team and driver in the 1970s was the Wood Brothers and David Pearson.
This shows the 1973 Ford Mercury Montego always with # 21. Outside their humble shop in Stuart, Virginia.
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( Ken Hyndman )

This was at the time that Wood Brothers were at their best.

Agree the building is "humble"

I remember Team Lotus borrowed their pit crew for Jim Clark's first tilt at Indianapolis. They were just so good.

[khyndart in CA]

Terry,
I had forgotten about the Jim Clark connection with the Wood Brothers, so thanks for that reminder and again thanks for starting this thread as I have been having fun with it.
Cheers,
Ken.

http://sports.usatoday.com/2016/05/27/wood-brothers-innovations-led-to-faster-indy-500-pit-stops/

[Steve Holmes]

in 1972 I nearly bought a 1970 plymouth super bird at the dealers in vancouver $4995 was the sticker price but they would do a deal. instead i bought a 1970 roadrunner for $2995. got that wrong

Actually, '70 Roadrunner is a pretty desirable beast these days too. Most of the Mopar muscle from that era is worth big money.

Do you have any photos?

[928]

i wil have a look Steve, but do not know how to post them

[khyndart in CA]

1959 Ferrari Formula One Transporter arriving at the track.
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[khyndart in CA]

1962. The same Ferrari Transporter arriving at Spa.
The # 9 Ferrari was driven by Phil Hill and finished 3rd.
The other Ferrari type 156 # 10 was driven by Willy Mairesse which I think was destroyed in the race when he collided with the Lotus of Trevor Taylor.

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Ken Hyndman.

[928]

Sory Steve I have looked, and can only find a photo of the car taken head on parked under a tree, and that is small and faded

[Gearbox Grinder]

I know they've been in another thread but some Kiwi racing car transport.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z170/fletcherfu24/DSC03462%20800x532_zpsmi06eupl.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z170/fletcherfu24/DSC03461%20800x546_zpsvymgkynh.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z170/fletcherfu24/DSC03460%20800x525_zpsvpuch3tf.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z170/fletcherfu24/DSC03802%20800x553_zps4fwh1fnj.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z170/fletcherfu24/DSC03792%20800x554_zpsd1kblakn.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z170/fletcherfu24/DSC03822%20658x424_zpskn434b5g.jpg

[Steve Holmes]

i wil have a look Steve, but do not know how to post them

Send it to me and I'll post it: theroaringseason@gmail.com

[khyndart in CA]

928,
Check this junkyard in Alabama. You might see your 70 Roadrunner in the more than 200 photos.
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/found-massive-mopar-only-junkyard/ar-AAjrAw1?ocid=spartanntp#image=AAjrxYv|202


(Ken H)

[Roger Dowding]

Roger,
Perhaps you could purchase and slightly modify this "Good ol' boy's" All Terrain Vehicle.
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KH

is that a Pick-tor, half pick-up truck / half tractor ?? seven hundred dollars a bargain - the rear wheels and tyres cost more than that !!

[khyndart in CA]

As I have one of the oldest LHD Mini Coopers registered in the US, (Built in February 1962 ).
This transporter has to be my personal favorite.

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(Ken Hyndman )
p.s. On another personal note my daughter and future husband are about to arrive and their wedding is next Saturday so until the action dies down you will not have to put up with my ramblings.
( Any tips for making a suitable father to daughter wedding speech ?)

[Roger Dowding]

(Ken Hyndman )
p.s. On another personal note my daughter and future husband are about to arrive and their wedding is next Saturday so until the action dies down you will not have to put up with my ramblings.
( Any tips for making a suitable father to daughter wedding speech ?)

Don't talk too much about cars.. talk about .. hmmm .. having never had to do that speech, not much help Ken H ..

[Roger Dowding]

I like this one .. Ken already posted the Utube clip with Cadillac FWD drivetrian and the sliding tilt .. well here is a conventional one ..

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[Grant Ellwood]

(Ken Hyndman )
p.s. On another personal note my daughter and future husband are about to arrive and their wedding is next Saturday so until the action dies down you will not have to put up with my ramblings.
( Any tips for making a suitable father to daughter wedding speech ?)

Don't talk too much about cars.. talk about .. hmmm .. having never had to do that speech, not much help Ken H ..

Don't talk about the election!

[khyndart in CA]

I will not even mention the Chinese man who did not want to move to the United States when he found out that you can only have an election once every four years !

[Grant Ellwood]

I will not even mention the Chinese man who did not want to move to the United States when he found out that you can only have an election once every four years !

And it might be ligged.....

[GD66]

I will not even mention the Chinese man who did not want to move to the United States when he found out that you can only have an election once every four years !



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[Terry S]

As I have one of the oldest LHD Mini Coopers registered in the US, this transporter has to be my personal favorite.

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(Ken Hyndman )


Ken this the Australian BMC Works Team arriving at Bathurst for the annual 500 mile race.

http://autopics.com.au/66786-the-three-bmc-works-morris-cooper-s-arriving-at-bathurst-gallaher-500-bathurst-1967/

[John B]

Fantastic 1:43rd model of the 1956 Ford F600 "Neil Scott's Transport" Car Carrier. This model is available from www.spr-models.co.nz (https://www.spr-models.co.nz/product/1691-ford-f600-1956-neil-scott-s-transport-car-carrier-limited-300)

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[Steve Holmes]

Not sure if this one has been posted. The mad Chaparral 2H 1969 Can-Am car, designed by the incredible Jim Hall. This was its high downforce Laguna Seca guise, with the giant wing on top. That trailer looks completely inadequate.

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[Roger Dowding]

Not sure if this one has been posted. The mad Chaparral 2H 1969 Can-Am car, designed by the incredible Jim Hall. This was its high downforce Laguna Seca guise, with the giant wing on top. That trailer looks completely inadequate.

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John Surtees raced it at Edmonton with his Number 7 and was without the huge wing .. Ken H, agree about the trailer, very 60's could almost be in NZ ..

[Steve Holmes]

It raced most events without the big wing. I think it may have only appeared this way for Laguna Seca? Either way, this seems to be its most famous guise.

[khyndart in CA]

This information from the Chaparral Files may explain 2H # 79.

http://www.thechaparralfiles.com/chaparral_revelations.php

(Ken H )

[khyndart in CA]

Last month I posted this Ferrari transporter that was first used in 1959. This is an update on that vehicle.
Used by the Scuderia the 682 RN-2, Ferrari’s new toy featured slightly different looks than its predecessor. For 11 years the 682 safely carried some of the best, most astonishing race cars ever made from one track to the next. By 1970 it was sold to a circus promoter that toured it all over Italy ! After the circus episode it remained stored for about 20 years, before being bought in 1995 by SoCal specialists that arranged for a full restoration.
This Ferrari transporter 682/RN-2 sold at Pebble Beach in 2011 for just under one million US dollars.
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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Ferrari transporter clip.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oi9IQOsdQI

[Ray Bell]

Wow! Getting those cars down from that height must have required some good ramps!

And what about the many races when they ran more than three cars in that era?

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
Perhaps they did not use ramps and loaded the cars like Maserati did with their Tipo 61"Birdcage" sports cars in 1960.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[Horizon]

Hello ,

When the truck was sold at Monterey , It arrivied in Seattle. I was the "car Guy" at the Pat Hart collection.

RN 2 682 was the bigger version of the two fiat transporters. One was built off a truck chassis and the other was a bus chassis.

Powered by a 6 cylinder low compression diesel. 4 speed with a two speed (high/low) rear end. 55kph.....down hill/tail wind was all she had !

The ramps ; Ughh :-0

Heavy Heavy Steel ramps are needed to get a car from the ground up to the lower level of the truck. A PTO driven winch was used to pull the car up and then the same winch used to raise/lower the ramp vis pulleys/cables in order to get cars up top.

Pebble Beach : wow !! I think it was in 2000 ? RN 2 682 was transported on a flat bed truck to Monterey. Its about a 16-18 hr drive.
We unloaded her at Fort Ord (disused Miltary base) and she was driven up to the Polo field (staging area) . There on a side street in Secret , with security , we placed a pontoon TR57, pontoon TR58 and the ex Pete Lovely TR59. At that time , we were the first ever to be allowed onto the 18th Green on the Saturday night.
After the show, the truck was driven uptp to Laguna to unload a one/two ? of the cars.

We used the truck a couple of times a year to support the local races at Pacific Raceways. RN 2 682 was sold on in about 02/03?

cheers
Tony

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[khyndart in CA]

Tony,
That is a wonderful input regarding the Ferrari transporter.
What type of transporter do you use ?
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Cheers,
Ken H

[bce257]

Really enjoying this thread. Saw this on TM, very nicely detailed. Wonder why they were RHD?

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http://www.trademe.co.nz/toys-models/die-casts/other/auction-1213749465.htm

[stubuchanan]

Really enjoying this thread. Saw this on TM, very nicely detailed. Wonder why they were RHD?

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http://www.trademe.co.nz/toys-models/die-casts/other/auction-1213749465.htm

My wife and I spent about 3 weeks driving around Italy ( the big OE) in 1970, and noted that all the bigger trucks were right-hand drive, and always had a 2-man crew. I think this might originally have been due to the narrow roads in some parts, but the Autostradas dated back to Mussolini's time pre-WW2. A lot of the sports cars were RHD too - if you look at photos of 1950s sports racing Ferraris and Maseratis many of those were RHD. I asked why on another forum a few years ago (Autosport Nostalgia Forum - UK) and somebody came up with a reason, but I can't remember what it was , now, - approaching senility I guess.

Will try to check it out. Stu

[khyndart in CA]

Stu,
I remember Ala Romeo had a LHD and RHD for Kevin Bartlett back in the day. If the circuit was anti clockwise and mostly left turns then the LHD was driven as it was easier to see the corner apex and the RHD car was driven on clockwise circuits.
I see LHD in the BTCC which I think is for the right handed drivers like to change gears with the right hand.
I may be off on this but that is my input for the racing, not sure on the transporter though.
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(BTCC racing in England as LHD cars)


(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

Whoops !
"Vern, I told you to stop eating that pie and concentrate on the road ahead ! "


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(Ken Hyndman )

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by khyndart in CA
Stu,
I remember Ala Romeo had a LHD and RHD for Kevin Bartlett back in the day. If the circuit was anti clockwise and mostly left turns then the LHD was driven as it was easier to see the corner apex and the RHD car was driven on clockwise circuits.....

I'm pretty sure the LHD and RHD GTAs were at Mildren's at different times...

Certainly there was no swapping due to circuit direction. KB just drove what he had at his disposal. The GTZs likewise.

[Terry S]

Stu,
I remember Ala Romeo had a LHD and RHD for Kevin Bartlett back in the day. If the circuit was anti clockwise and mostly left turns then the LHD was driven as it was easier to see the corner apex and the RHD car was driven on clockwise circuits.
I see LHD in the BTCC which I think is for the right handed drivers like to change gears with the right hand.
I may be off on this but that is my input for the racing, not sure on the transporter though.
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(BTCC racing in England as LHD cars)


(Ken Hyndman )

Ken, re Bartlett's RHD and LHD Alfa GTVs, have a look at this:

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?2130-Bartlet-and-Alfa-GTA-s&highlight=bartlett

[khyndart in CA]

July 1960. Silverstone. British Grand Prix.
Jim Clark's Lotus 18 # 8 being unloaded from the Team Lotus transporter.

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(KJH )

[khyndart in CA]

"Vern,
When you have finished eating your pie, can you come out from under that vehicle and park this BRM transporter properly instead of blocking the access road !"


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(Ken H )

[khyndart in CA]

Here is a transporter Mr. Steve Holmes would appreciate.

"In the glory days of muscle cars, this transporter pulled out of Yenko's dealership with awesome cars. Yenko made them awesome."

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http://www.yenko.net/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Yenko





(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

In 1968 John Wyer had this beautifully restored transporter to carry his fleet of the mighty JW Gulf Porsche 9i7s around Europe.

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This weekend Hyndman once again had to " mix with the big boys such as a Gulf Ford GT replica.
Just to remind them of who ruled the roads of Los Olivos !

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(Ken Hyndman photo )

[Jac Mac]

Thats a Ford GT in last pic, otherwise known as a ~110% scale replica of a GT40...

[khyndart in CA]

Jac Mac
You are absolutely correct. The changes have been made. I just got a bit carried away.

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2006 Ford GT trailing the 1962 Austin Mini Cooper in the streets of Los Olivos, CA.
( Ken Hyndman photo )

[ERC]

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That looks like the original BRM Leyland Tiger, repainted in Yardley livery. I presume it was restored back to its original BRG colour at a later date? It was in the Wheatcroft Donington Museum at one stage.

[Terry S]

This is slightly O/T, but may be of interest.

In Australia the V*SC teams use B Double Trailers.

Even the single car teams, for some reason.
I think Australia may be the only country where these are allowed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z39xXBIIFf0

Suggest you press "Skip AD' button in bottom LH corner

[928]

think you will find the "B" train is a canadian transport development

[khyndart in CA]

Joe stopped to use the bathroom in 1956 and he never came back !

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(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

I first came to California in 1972 about the time this movie was made which was one of the first by Steven Spielberg.
I wish some of the freeway scenes were still wide open like this today.
It pays not to upset a tanker or transporter driver !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt4MWSrrtiU


Enjoy.

(Ken Hyndman.)

[Rod Grimwood]

Joe stopped to use the bathroom in 1956 and he never came back !

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(Ken Hyndman )

That whole unit would be great in the right hands, imagine seeing all that restored.

[Andrew Metford]

This is slightly O/T, but may be of interest.

In Australia the V*SC teams use B Double Trailers.

Even the single car teams, for some reason.
I think Australia may be the only country where these are allowed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z39xXBIIFf0

Suggest you press "Skip AD' button in bottom LH corner

It is ( or at least was ) mandated in the rules you have to have a B double, even if a single car team.

NZ runs B doubles too, always have. Australia is the only place that has Road Trains, which even when a double are a different configuration to a B double.

[stubuchanan]

A page or so back, someone wondered how extra cars were carried, and how unloading was achieved. This effort from Ferrari from 1959 or 1960 may be part of the answer :
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Mechanics are apparently easing the Ferrari from a temporary frame on a flatbed truck on to the raise/lower portion of the Fiat transporter. I presume the process has to be repeated for a second car on the truck.

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Ferrari seem to have used this truck regularly for transporting extra cars from the factory to Monza. Crotti Bilance was a weighing machine manufacturer at Campogalliano, just outside Modena.

I think there was a length limit on trucks, buses etc manufactured in the UK, in the 1950-1960 era at least, so they couldn't have double cabs or extra storage like the Fiats. The Connaught team used 3 converted AEC buses as team transport, each one holding one car only, as did Bruce Halford who raced a 250F Maserati ( the ex-Prince Bira car which later became the Ross Jensen "El Salvador" Maserati of 1959) .

Stu

[Kwaussie]

This looks very nice.40338

[GD66]

This is how the Ducati race team used to roll into the pits in the early 1970s.

Quite an entrance !

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[GD66]

Meanwhile, in California....:cool:

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[khyndart in CA]

"Honey, I may be a little late getting home as my tow vehicle is not handling as good as it should."

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[GD66]

Woo-hoo ! Imagine winding that into a downhill hairpin !

[khyndart in CA]

Gilmore Oil Company had some interesting vehicles in the 1930s. It was the largest*independent oil company on the West Coast at the time and used motor sports to help promote the company.
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The roadster in this photo has not been identified. (It is written as a possible Murphy Special with some influence by Harry Miller )
Can anyone identify it ?

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That dog at the r/f wheel does not appreciate a fine looking transporter !


(Ken H)

[Ray Bell]

Two people who post on the Atlas F1 forums I can think of might know that sporty car...

'Magoo', who posts on the Technical Forum pretty regularly, and maybe 'B Squared' (Brian Brown) who is often on the Nostalgia Forum.

[khyndart in CA]

Excuse the pun as I am getting a bit off track but I found the Gilmore Oil Company story interesting.
Earl Gilmore used racing to promote his oil company and built Gilmore Stadium in Los Angeles and is also considered to be the father of midget auto racing. He backed Fred Offenhauser to help develop his famous 97 c.i. midget racing engine. He also sponsored sprint cars in the Los Angeles area and at Indianapolis.
Check this beautifully chromed midget on the custom built trailer behind a very customized "Southern California Plating Company" 1935 Ford delivery truck in 1936 on their way to the races.

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(Ken Hyndman )

[Ray Bell]

That really is interesting stuff, Ken...

And impressive!

[khyndart in CA]

Before Gilmore Oil was bought out and eventually was part of Mobil Oil in the 1940s, they did sponsor the Railton Special that John Cobb drove to set the World Land Speed record on the Great Salt Lake in Utah during the 1930s and after World War Two in 1947.
It was a beautiful machine that used two airplane engines set at an angle to deliver power to the front with one engine and the other powered the back. The biggest problem they had was with all the power the tyres kept peeling off the rims ! Cobb raised the land speed from 350 mph to almost 400 mph in this magnificent machine.
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Diagram of the engine arrangement in the Reid Railton designed special.
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Cutaway of the Railton Special.
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Gilmore products were used on the record runs. Note the raging lion emblem that Gilmore used.
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A model of the Railton Special with Gilmore emblems as in 1938-39.
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After Gilmore was sold to Mobil Oil the advertising changed to this.

(Ken Hyndman)

[khyndart in CA]

The Railton Special and John Cobb at the Great Salt Lake in Utah with Gilmore Oil Company sponsorship.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtuMhy4prO8



Plus an interesting read regarding John Cobb and the Railton Special from Motorsport magazine.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/november-1965/52/john-cobbs-three-successful-land-speed-record-atte


(Ken Hyndman)

[Ray Bell]

When you don't have one of these...

https://s26.postimg.org/3s975xo3d/0306_MBtransporterfront.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/uelnuwsah/0306_MBtransporterside.jpg

...maybe you can create something like this?

https://s26.postimg.org/nj1fbsxtl/0117fr_BWtransporter.jpg

As inventive as any Australian Special, this was built by Alan Stanfield using a Holden FE/FC utility cabin, parts of two Vanguard chassis, a TR4 engine, dry sumped, lying on its side and driving through an overdrive gearbox to a two-part tail shaft which drove a Landrover transfer case behind the rear axle. From there the drive went forward to the reversed rear axle.

The front of the bodywork was crafted in aluminium by Stanfield. The whole thing was never finished and ultimately scattered to the winds.

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
Now that is very interesting and such a waste to know all that effort never got completed and then got "scattered in the winds."

[khyndart in CA]

Doing this thread I learned that the Gilmore Oil Company family and the Jim Gilmore who sponsored AJ Foyt in racing for over 10 years starting in 1973 were not related. I had previously thought there was a connection.
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AJ Foyt. Pocono Cart race. 1984




(Ken H)

[khyndart in CA]

AJ Foyt did not always have the best of transportation as seen in this photo of his car arriving for the 1961 Indy 500.
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This car would go on to win the 1961 Indianapolis 500 and is now in the Speedway Hall of Fame.
It has come a long way since it arrived on that trailer !
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The transportation for AJ Foyt had improved by 1985.
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Photo by Brian Cleary.





(Ken Hyndman )

[khyndart in CA]

I messed up the last posting.
This shows AJ Foyt's Watson Special arriving on an inauspicious trailer for the 1961 Indy 500. Which was won by Foyt.

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By 1985 the Foyt transporter had grown to this.

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(Ken Hyndman)

[Roger Dowding]

Not everyone could afford flash rigs in NZ often cars were trailered or A-Framed to events, if they weren't driven there and hopefully back. - otherwise borrow a mates trailer to get home and he drove his car

For example - some well known NZ cars in the late 1960's
basic trailer - Marrari
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Many cars if not driven or allowed to be driven on the road arrived on A - Frames Zephyr Corvette,in Ken Baileys hands at the time
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or simple trailers with ramps - The Heron Daimler
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a sided trailer getting a bit more fancy - Paul Fahey's Ford Fairlane
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double axle low sided with winch -very fancy The Segedin Ford Mustang with stack pipes.
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Have been posted elsewhere, but do belong here on Ken H's thread ..

[khyndart in CA]

Roger,
I always enjoy your inputs but it was Terry S who started this enjoyable and varied thread.
Cheers,
Ken.

[Roger Dowding]

Roger,
I always enjoy your inputs but it was Terry S who started this enjoyable and varied thread.
Cheers,
Ken.

Terry S, my apologies, just seemed that Ken H has put a lot on here !!

[Terry S]

A little o/t but this is a good guide to Triple 8's new B double transporter:

http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/08/09/video-triple-eights-new-supercars-transporter/

[khyndart in CA]

Due to wildfires in Montana that fishing trip has been delayed for 3 weeks. Anyway I have had an interest in race car transporters and I especially liked this one.
In 1972 Roger Penske had this 1972 International Fleetstar 2110A chassis powered by a 257-horsepower, 549-cu.in. gasoline V-8. Engineer and star racing driver Mark Donohue, drew up plans for the rig to be capable of hauling the team’s Indy Cars as well as its Can-Am Porsches. It was known as the "Blue Hilton" (named for its forward bunk space and the Penske blue.)
The team used the transporter for many events from 1972 until 1983 when it was sold and not heard of again until 2015 when an alert Penske employee saw it advertised and some of the team spent many hours secretly restoring it again and then surprised Roger when they unveiled it as a special gift for his 80th birthday earlier this year.
Here are some photos of how it was found in 2015.
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Some idea of what went into the restoration work.
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This is how it looks today after a beautiful restoration.

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This is how it looked in 1973 as the Porsche 917/30 is prepared and Roger Penske looks on from beside his transporter.
(Note the work conditions compared to how it would be today !)




(Ken Hyndman )

[Bruce302]

That's nice Ken, Thanks for the pics.

Roger always had nice gear.

B.

[khyndart in CA]

Yes Bruce he certainly has "nice gear".
If I was a single,young man again I certainly would be looking into some of these career opportunities of working for Team Penske.
From a mechanic to a transport driver ! They like Kiwis as they know they will do the job right.
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http://www.teampenske.com/about/index.cfm/51985/Careers


(KH)

[Bruce302]

I have spoken with some guys who worked with/for Penske back in the day. It included flying on his own personal plane, and seeing Roger hand out the few dollars he allocated to the needs each day. Frugality is the key to running a tight ship.
Certainly a very smart man and exceptionally astute businessman.

I have been told that every fifth truck off the Freightliner production line goes to one of his companies.

B.

[khyndart in CA]

Hey Bruce,
Speaking of transporters, I saw this converted 1946 Chevy Cab over 2 1/2 ton truck at the local Solvang Car Show and thought it would be good to take my Mini Cooper places. Do you think it would have enough "grunt" ?
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(Ken Hyndman photos )

More on the Solvang Car Show at this site and check the pix.
https://rpmcollectorcars.com/2017/08/wheels-and-windmills-2017/

[Terry S]

Yes Bruce he certainly has "nice gear".
If I was a single,young man again I certainly would be looking into some of these career opportunities of working for Team Penske.
From a mechanic to a transport driver ! They like Kiwis as they know they will do the job right.
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http://www.teampenske.com/about/index.cfm/51985/Careers

(KH)

One of the secrets of his success may be that he is not fixated on just one brand.

See the Ford branding on the NASCAR transporter, but the Chev branding in the Indy transporter.

[Ray Bell]

You didn't see the fuel consumption figure for the big petrol V8 in the Ford?

Was it 1mpg or 2mpg?

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
I think it was more like how many gallons to the mile !

[Roger Dowding]

Hey Bruce,
Speaking of transporters, I saw this converted 1946 Chevy Cab over 2 1/2 ton truck at the local Solvang Car Show and thought it would be good to take my Mini Cooper places. Do you think it would have enough "grunt" ?
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(Ken Hyndman photos )

More on the Solvang Car Show at this site and check the pix.
https://rpmcollectorcars.com/2017/08/wheels-and-windmills-2017/

Love the Cab over trucks.
Have been to Solvang twice, back in 1982 and again in 1988, the second time after staying with Hans Nohr [ Danish like the town ] and Dee Glendenning- Walt Glendenning's widow, at Santa Monica.Walt originally set up " Absolutely British " - a car restoration business that Ken knows well.. bit of a sidetrack, sorry Ken !!

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[Terry S]

Not everyone could afford flash rigs in NZ often cars were trailered or A-Framed to events, if they weren't driven there and hopefully back. - otherwise borrow a mates trailer to get home and he drove his car


or simple trailers with ramps - The Heron Daimler
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Have been posted elsewhere, but do belong here on Ken H's thread ..

Being from the other side of the ditch and not completely au fait with your cars, I thought that sports car may be SIDS 11

[Roger Dowding]

Terry S, the Heron Daimler was indeed similar looking to the SIDS 11. This one of several cars called Heron .. need to look up who made them.

[Roger Dowding]

Not everyone could afford flash rigs in NZ often cars were trailered or A-Framed to events, if they weren't driven there and hopefully back. - otherwise borrow a mates trailer to get home and he drove his car

For example - some well known NZ cars in the late 1960's
basic trailer - Marrari
41331

Many cars if not driven or allowed to be driven on the road arrived on A - Frames Zephyr Corvette,in Ken Baileys hands at the time
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or simple trailers with ramps - The Heron Daimler
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a sided trailer getting a bit more fancy - Paul Fahey's Ford Fairlane
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double axle low sided with winch -very fancy The Segedin Ford Mustang with stack pipes.
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Have been posted elsewhere, but do belong here on Ken H's thread ..

The Fairlane was of course Robbie Francevic, it replaced the Custaxie when Allcomers class was over .. replaced by Group 2 from memory in 1967

[khyndart in CA]

Roger,
The Heron-Daimler was built by Ross Baker. It was a neat little unit.
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(Ken )

[Roger Dowding]

Ken,

I thought so but didn't want to post and get it wrong ha ha .. would not be the first time I have made an error .. thanks for the input.
BTW off to your part of the world tomorrow, your old stamping ground the Waikato,Te Poi to be precise to see friends on Rapurapu Road on their farm..cheers
Roger

[khyndart in CA]

Roger,
Te Poi always reminds me of when the DC 3 crashed above there into the Kaimais in 1963 and you could often see the sun glinting off the wreckage after that. A sad time.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/69898789

Ken

[Milan Fistonic]

Roger,
Te Poi always reminds me of when the DC 3 crashed above there into the Kaimais in 1963 and you could often see the sun glinting off the wreckage after that. A sad time.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/69898789

Ken

Not sure when this memorial was erected but it looks fairly new.

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[khyndart in CA]

Thanks Milan,
I note a Miss Cooney on the passenger list, that is a well known name in the Tauranga area.
I myself have bad memories of 1963. It started when I did not feel well and finally my dad took me into see Dr. Watts (Nigel's father ) he quickly diagnosed that I had a perforated appendix and sent me immediately to Waikato Hospital which possibly saved my life.
Just after that in June this plane crash happened near home.
In November President Kennedy was shot, although far away in the US it stunned the world.
Then on Dec. 14th 1963, my dear father died suddenly. So 1963 was a dark year for me.
( Sorry to get way off base with my ramblings.)

(Ken )

[928]

Roger,
The Heron-Daimler was built by Ross Baker. It was a neat little unit.
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(Ken )
Ken where is this photo taken, and who is driving?

[khyndart in CA]

928
Not sure but I thought it was either Norris Miles or Bill Robinson driving.
(Photo from Google)



(Ken)

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by khyndart
.....I myself have bad memories of 1963.....

Sounds rough, Ken...

As for me, 1963 I got my first car and my driver's licence. Not so bad at all.

And to keep it on topic, I was able to spread my wings more and see ever more race cars and, therefore, ever more transport arrangements for them,

[928]

thanks Ken, was a photo I did not know had been released for open viewing

[khyndart in CA]

What a difference 10 years makes. After complaining about my 1963 and then seeing Steve Holmes photos of Goodwood it reminded me of how 1973 was like living a dream for me. From being at Trojan Works and going to motor races around England, track testing at Goodwood, meeting well known drivers, taking a Contiki Tour to the Munich Beer fest, showing my bride to be around London and also going to parties (without my bride to be !) with Barry Sheene and his crew. (Suzuki of Great Britain was part of the Trojan complex)
Barry was a real character and a marvelous rider and we met up again at Long Beach in 1977 to share some old times. He passed away way too young at 52 but he achieved a lot in those years !
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Barry Sheene and transporter. (Year and photographer unknown )



(Ken Hyndman )

[Milan Fistonic]

From Graeme Lawrence's column in the April 1973 edition of Motorman.

Interesting tow vehicle.

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[Terry S]

From Graeme Lawrence's column in the April 1973 edition of Motorman.

Interesting tow vehicle.

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I wonder if that shortened Valiant ute was one of those used by Leo Geoghegan for testing at Mallala prior to the introduction of the Charger?

They were trying to keep the Charger quiet prior to laugh so used a shortened ute to be the same wheelbase as a Charger.

[Ray Bell]

Prior to launch...

Two were built, one was a VF and the other a VG, both were equipped with 6-Pack (triple DCOE) Weber 265 engines. One for a short time had a 340 and A833 but was deemed by Pete Geoghegan (while Leo was on an extended stay in England) to be too much of an understeerer.

In the end, this track testing wasn't totally successful as the utes had different torsional values to the Chargers.

[khyndart in CA]

Nostalgic look back to 1960.
Not sure why but the ad. looks very English although the price is in dollars.
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(Ken H)

[slotcrazy]

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[bry3500]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipDKE1JiKg&t=185s&ab_channel=Hagerty

[Ray Bell]

The '300SLR', of course, is one of the streamliner W196s...