Where Are All The '70s And '80s Photos?

[Steve Holmes]

When I created this website, one of my goals was to coax peoples old personal motor racing photo collections out of their closets and basements. And already I've been completely amazed by what has emerged. But I think the thing that has surprised me the most is that most of the collections centre around the mid-1960s through to 1971 period. Very little has emerged from the mid and late 1970s, or the 1980s.

Photography equipment during the 1960s was much more basic and expensive, yet most of the photo collections that have emerged have been from this period. I know there were many more people taking photos in the mid-70s through 1980s, but where have all these collections got to?

So this is my own personal quest to coax some of those '70s and '80s collections out of peoples garages that haven't seen the light of day for many years. You guys on here who were taking photos during this period, post what you have here, just so we can enjoy it. Its all gold to us, and we appreciate whatever we can get!

[neale]

The 70's - 80's is a grey area for me. I've been through dads collection which is from the late 60's to early 70's (I just have to get some gear to scan slides) then he lost interest in racing beause of family commitments (my fault, lol) then it wasnt till I got old enough to get into cars that we started to get back to the race tracks around the late 90's.

If anyones interested in stuff from that era I can scan some of the pics in & post them up

[Steve Holmes]

Hell yeah! Please do post them up, folk on here would absolutely love to see them. But when you do, please create a dedicated thread for them so they can be fully appreciated.

[hilstwist]

Steve, I think you have a dvd I sent with pics of a early mid 80s B&H. The next one i have to send you is of 1980 ish Formula Pacific GP at Puke. Millen/Oxton etc

[Carlo]

Sorry just about all my ones along with my magazine collection were damaged beyond salvation during the Pleasant Point flood so I am who is enjoying what I see displayed on these pages too

[Steve Holmes]

Ahh, thats a shame Carlo, sorry to hear that.

[Steve Holmes]

Steve, I think you have a dvd I sent with pics of a early mid 80s B&H. The next one i have to send you is of 1980 ish Formula Pacific GP at Puke. Millen/Oxton etc

I do indeed Steve, thanks. I'll be posting those in the coming weeks. Looking forward to the next instalment!

[ERC]

Simple Steve. When I look at my drawers full of slides and piles of negatives, many were taken before family commitments effectively wiped out a lot of late 1970 & 1980's regular spectating, but also when competing, few pics were taken.

The other issue is that at Pukekohe over the years, photo opportunities disappeared when access was denied to the outside of the hairpin and the inside of Jennian. Unless you had a camera with a good long lens, it wasn't worth wasting film. The same applied to many other tracks. Spectators were pushed further back and/or behind wire fences.

[hilstwist]

You know what, thats right I took photos from inside the track in the 60s and early 70s at puke. at the 67 or 68 gp meeting i was positioned at that fast left hander after the hairpin at the end of the back straight, I now remember not too many years after that I couldn"t get there. Good point.

[GD66]

In those days, and upon discovering I was at best an ordinary photographer, I packed it in. I soon spotted the likes of Jack Inwood and Terry Marshall getting right in there for their excellent images, knew I'd see their best in the mags, and concentrated on the race, the cars, the thrill, the sounds. That's why this forum is like a goldmine to me, as these gems from the distant past continue to be unearthed. Thank you, all.

[stubuchanan]

Like some others, my 1970's and 1980's were a time of bringing up family, trying to get ahead in the work arena, and while I still bought the usual motor magazines/papers I didn't attend so many race meetings. Also, there was more local motor sport on TV so I could still get my 'fix' from the armchair.

Another development over that period was in the rally scene, and I probably went to plenty of special stages on the NZ Rally from late 70's on. Maramarua, Woodhill, Riverhead Forests, and the various stages around the Kaipara and Paparoa-Waipu areas were favourites, and maybe I had got disenchanted with photography for a while - don't seem to have taken many shots at all. Certainly no memorable ones.

Stu

[neale]

Hell yeah! Please do post them up, folk on here would absolutely love to see them. But when you do, please create a dedicated thread for them so they can be fully appreciated.

will do then. Let the scanning begin!!

[Steve Holmes]

Neale, how are those pics coming along?

[Steve Emson]

Sorry just about all my ones along with my magazine collection were damaged beyond salvation during the Pleasant Point flood so I am who is enjoying what I see displayed on these pages too
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[Grant Sprague]

Hi Stev , re you & I GTX series , I hunted for the Fait 128s I found the 3 wheeling south island car [some photos 70s & 80s] also of us at Bay park I know I have it [ yet to go through more photos ] & will wait til i get that & compile them to gether & add here or on GTX thread, I have some others re hill climbs of my cars before & after we meet .Hey meet up with Kerry {Grant] to day we had a coffee & some good catch up times we go back a long time when your dad & Kerry were racing 186 xu1;s against Ernie in ghto , in fact I was a fan of Kerry as a boy, Ernie seemed ok with that lol [But our Dads are our real heros ] Talk soon .. Grant

[Steve Emson]

Re Kerry Grant, Dad has always spoken very highly of Kerry. I think it goes back to the A40?? days. Of course my Dad was my hero as you would expect, as I know just how good he was and could be if he applied himself, but Dad being Dad, he just bought a car , never did anything much to it, maybe knock the hubcaps off, and race it. He never did any development to any of his cars, that did annoy me as a boy a little. In equal cars, he was very fast........................, just seat of the pants talent. The interesting thing is he highly respected several drivers. I always listened very carefully to what he said.

[Oldfart]

As you should Steve. Your Dad was a hell of a talent, and Mr Nice Guy to go with it. Real gentleman.

[Grant Sprague]

Re Kerry Grant, Dad has always spoken very highly of Kerry. I think it goes back to the A40?? days. Of course my Dad was my hero as you would expect, as I know just how good he was and could be if he applied himself, but Dad being Dad, he just bought a car , never did anything much to it, maybe knock the hubcaps off, and race it. He never did any development to any of his cars, that did annoy me as a boy a little. In equal cars, he was very fast........................, just seat of the pants talent. The interesting thing is he highly respected several drivers. I always listened very carefully to what he said. Steve, the main thing is yr Dad did well what he did & I would say enjoyed it to boot, today as we know its a different ball game even at club level the fun has drifted away as egos get high.I have a news paper cutting of [pic] Ralf , Ernie & JR at Levels the 3 standing on podium.
Yes Kerry raced two A 40s one had Denny Hulmes 1000cc formular junior engine I only found that out yesterday, i only really got to know Kerry when he raced the ex UK lotus cortina owned by len southward I would have been about 10 yrs old , later he did some puke long distance races, plus the xu1 gtx only to get punted by Leo at Bay Park when sitting side ways on the track with Leo know where to go was not a good day & also a brabham he raced here & an other single seater that turned into nothing , & a few races in aussie he lost nerve when a friend got killed in an other brabham [I think] in front of him, Roly told me the same story, would not be easy but can see Roly forging a head in same meeting if memory correct warrick farm was the track, gee we are drifting back now in time but hey its all good .
Have you meet up with Steve Hammond [ex kiwi Tauranga] over there he is right into Realestate,cars , boats etc , always nice to catch up with you Steve , take it easy .....Grant .....ps tell me a bit more about yr Falcon you [raced]
You mentioned you could have bought Jims Mustang some years ago , a fellow pre 65 Competitor restored ithere know doubt you know the story, I meet up with Jim [as him & Gary were good friends on & off the track ] at Dennys funeral we went into town [Tauranga] him my self & Brian [the syndney based ford wrecker] it was a BIG Night still talked about if you do see him give him my hello. ok mate this time.............. Grant

[Carlo]

As you should Steve. Your Dad was a hell of a talent, and Mr Nice Guy to go with it. Real gentleman.

He still is

[Steve Holmes]

These are awesome! I'd love to see more. Are they images on your pc that you've taken photos of? just trying to work out why the blue lines are running through the images, and if we can figure out a way to reproduce them differently.

Out of interest, could the Hargreaves '38 Chevy be the ex-Rod McElrea car? Looks quite similar.

[Steve Holmes]

This photo was sent to me by Steve Twist, but he doesn't have much info on the car. Can anyone recall this car, and who drove it? Looks like it could have actually been from a B&H race?

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[Rod Grimwood]

Try Steve Borich and Robbie Francevic.

Robbie Booth also a relationship with Lyon Motors (Jerry Lyon and his sons name escapes me)

[BMCBOY]

[QUOTE=Steve Holmes;28967]This photo was sent to me by Steve Twist, but he doesn't have much info on the car. Can anyone recall this car, and who drove it? Looks like it could have actually been from a B&H race?

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[Steve Holmes]

Thanks you guys. I had assumed from Steve's photo the smoke was a result of powering up the skinny tyres, but looking at your shots there Ross it appears the smoke is coming from the motor?

[Frosty5]

Thanks you guys. I had assumed from Steve's photo the smoke was a result of powering up the skinny tyres, but looking at your shots there Ross it appears the smoke is coming from the motor?

Steve, Steve, Steve, motors are electric!!!!!!!!!LOL

[hilstwist]

I allways thought that was tyre smoke too! the photo taken by Ross Cammick below mine looks like it is taken on the exit of the same corner i took mine from which is the loop on the old circuit. I wonder if it is the same lap as the old Falcon looks like it aint going to last much longer? Perhaps we were about 30 feet away from each other or certainly roaming around the same area at the same time.I think the drivers were Borich/Franiceveck. Looks like Robbies driving style! Now I know its in 1974

[BMCBOY]

I allways thought that was tyre smoke too! the photo taken by Ross Cammick below mine looks like it is taken on the exit of the same corner i took mine from which is the loop on the old circuit. I wonder if it is the same lap as the old Falcon looks like it aint going to last much longer? Perhaps we were about 30 feet away from each other or certainly roaming around the same area at the same time.I think the drivers were Borich/Franiceveck. Looks like Robbies driving style! Now I know its in 1974

I'm pretty sure mine was taken exiting the hairpin - it looked a lot different those days!!

[Rod Grimwood]

Top photo is going into loop on long curcuit (used for club curcuit) and Ross's top photo is out of haipin, second is going into 'Elbow' and she does have a dose of asma.

Borich driving top of Ross's photos and Robbie in other.

[BMCBOY]

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[hilstwist]

I thought I knew every inch of puke in those days but can't figure out where on the circuit is the shot that has the Datsun and Torana in it? great photos by the way!

[BMCBOY]

I thought I knew every inch of puke in those days but can't figure out where on the circuit is the shot that has the Datsun and Torana in it? great photos by the way!

Just out of the lefthander after the hairpin - Puke has changed since those days!

[GD66]

I thought I knew every inch of puke in those days but can't figure out where on the circuit is the shot that has the Datsun and Torana in it? great photos by the way!

Yep. What about the composition of the elbow shot of the Charger and the Mazda ? In the distance, an identical duo are battling into Railway. Nice shooting, Tex !

[Rod Grimwood]

Yep. What about the composition of the elbow shot of the Charger and the Mazda ? In the distance, an identical duo are battling into Railway. Nice shooting, Tex !

As you say amazing thing is both groups are Charger verse RX2 what chances of snapping it like that

[BMCBOY]

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[hilstwist]

Whos driving the Ferrari? Could be Tim Bailey who owned Continental car services on Great south Road AK. I had a great view of that place from my office right across the road in the 70s and 80S.he normally raced Porches though. I used to love gazing out my window back then there was a lot of exotic machinery coming and going from that place!

[BMCBOY]

Yes it was Tim Bailey

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[Steve Holmes]

Superb photos Ross! The GT-HO Phase III is the famous ex-John Goss car which made its way to NZ sometime in 1973.

Note the Geoff Sutherland E49 Charger. Isn't this the car that went off into the spectator car park at Bay Park in 1975, landing upside down in between two spectators cars?

[John McKechnie]

Same Charger, but before the accident.
The car was not repaired for quite a few years.

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks John, I'm amazed it was repaired at all. The roof was completely flattened.

[Steve Holmes]

Here is a Warwick Clayton photo showing the Sutherland Charger after its Bay Park antics.

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[John McKechnie]

When upside down thats a lot of weight on a thin pillar
I had a brother who did the same thing and the roof was the same height as this.

[Steve Emson]

I was standing not very far away when this car appeared upside down in the pit area! Scarey stuff

[Steve Holmes]

I'm still amazed it was rebuilt after this?

[John McKechnie]

Yep, saw it in a panelshop in Eden Terrace, very, very low mileage.

[Rod Grimwood]

I was standing not very far away when this car appeared upside down in the pit area! Scarey stuff

You would have most probably been with the Woolf's Steve as it landed right next to Alans Escort.

[Grant Sprague]

I was living in London at that time some one sent me the auto action [I think it was called] My big brother was doing this series , I think this guy broke a disc ??? also there were words to Southerland at Puke, probably the weekend before , by some one I know well " quote, if you keep pulling a cross on me some one wil get hurt" & WE dont like to lift off do we ??

[Roger Dowding]

BMC Boy, the Photos are Ross Cammick, the same guy that went to the USA in 1982 to the 30th Anniversary of the Austin Healey an International gathering in Colorada, Snowmass at Aspen, then back to / through California, to Laguna Seca for the Historics, Porsche was the named marque. Ross and I with two others we traveled together in the West Coast States in a VW Combi van for 3 months, REG California " 751 JMG " was Yellow and Brown in colour. the photos are brilliant, I have some of my own small exploits in a 1967 Triumph Tr4a, by Ross. now live in QLD, Ross how are you, mate. cheers Roger

[BMCBOY]

BMC Boy, the Photos are Ross Cammick, the same guy that went to the USA in 1982 to the 30th Anniversary of the Austin Healey an International gathering in Colorada, Snowmass at Aspen, then back to / through California, to Laguna Seca for the Historics, Porsche was the named marque. Ross and I with two others we traveled together in the West Coast States in a VW Combi van for 3 months, REG California " 751 JMG " was Yellow and Brown in colour. the photos are brilliant, I have some of my own small exploits in a 1967 Triumph Tr4a, by Ross. now live in QLD, Ross how are you, mate. cheers Roger

How are you doing Roger - I've noticed your odd comments on here.
Yes that was a great trip 30 years ago - I actually managed to stay for 13 months after all you guys went home to work!
A couple of photos here for old times sake. Send me a PM with your email address and we can catch up.

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[Jizim]

Try Steve Borich and Robbie Francevic.

Robbie Booth also a relationship with Lyon Motors (Jerry Lyon and his sons name escapes me)

Gerry Lyon and his son Roger. This was a great dealership and one of the last real family Ford Homes on the Shore. Previously known as Lewis Motors. Roger was a real petrol head..he would get all the cool Ford Gt's , HO's, Cosworths, etc. Lovely generous family.

[Rod Grimwood]

That's him Tony, Roger good bugger, had a couple of beers with him also (he loved a can) he had some machinery.

[hilstwist]

So is it Gerry Lyon and son driving that smoking XB Falcon?

[Rod Grimwood]

So is it Gerry Lyon and son driving that smoking XB Falcon?


Roger played a bit but not Gerry, Gerry was the gentleman but good bugger also. Positive it is Robbie and Steve Borich. Steve was a handy peddler back then also.

[Steve Emson]

Photo of the Francevic Torana XU1. I am pretty sure Robbie rallied this car. That will explain the mudfaps etc. If i remember correctly we were all standing in a forest somewhere waiting to start a stage. Robbie shouted out to Jimmy Richards who was also XU1 mounted, some challenge of how he was going to beat him in this next stage. Of course I was too busy worrying about my own thing to find out how they went. Funny some of the little snippets of things that get filed away. Of course at that time I was not to know i would have a season of mudguard banging in Shellsport with Robbie in the future. In my opinion Francevic was a very talented guy, and i rate him on my list of NZ's best. Of course Jimmy is on that list also!
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[BMCBOY]

I was going through a pile of old negatives the other day and came across some club circuit photos.
Amazing who used to come out for an afternoons fun those days for a bit of "testing"

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[BMCBOY]

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[Oldfart]

I love those wild A40s, wonder if any still exist!

[car mad]

yes would love to build a replica A40

[John McKechnie]

One for sale in latest petrolhead- up Nelson way, ex racer built by Parmenter I think. Cheap at $1800.

[Grant Sprague]

Also ph the seat belt shop Tauranga] ex pre 65 roller ask 4 merv

[John McKechnie]

BMCBOY- man, those are big tyres on the back of the Fiat dicing with the Charger.

[Oldfart]

One for sale in latest petrolhead- up Nelson way, ex racer built by Parmenter I think. Cheap at $1800.

When I rang him a couple of months back it had been sold the day before.

[John McKechnie]

That was an absolute steal that car, had history, everything.

[Oldfart]

That was an absolute steal that car, had history, everything.
Even if he really knew nothing about it!

[Rod Grimwood]

Regards post#38. Steve that was a well used HO when Norris got it. He also had a left hand drive German 3ltr Capri it was white with green down side, he raced a couple of times in the GTX class and then had Rod Millen drive it, and he sure shocked a few. Remember at Wigram 2 wheeling it everwhere at high speed. Not sure but Rod may have won class that year. Any one got photos of this car.

[John McKechnie]

Rod- give me some dates and I will check my mags.

[BMCBOY]

BMCBOY- man, those are big tyres on the back of the Fiat dicing with the Charger.

Yes it seemed to be a bit of a handful!

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A couple more A40 photos - if I remember rightly a couple of these had Ford engines

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[Habu]

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Think the above photo is a very young George Shewiery at club circuit in his XTGT?

[Allan]

Can anyone put a name to the FIAT 125 driver?

[GFR]

A late 70s photo I took at Amaroo Park - always a full program and a good day of racing back then.

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[Rod Grimwood]

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Correct Habu. He still has the car, ex Francevic.

[BMCBOY]

Regards post#38. Steve that was a well used HO when Norris got it. He also had a left hand drive German 3ltr Capri it was white with green down side, he raced a couple of times in the GTX class and then had Rod Millen drive it, and he sure shocked a few. Remember at Wigram 2 wheeling it everwhere at high speed. Not sure but Rod may have won class that year. Any one got photos of this car.

This looks like the car Rod

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[seaqnmac27]

What became of that Capri?

[John McKechnie]

That does not look a very user friendly piece of wood sticking up out of the corner. Definitely stop kerb jumping

[Allan]

From 1970 Benson and Hedges meeting187601876118762187631876418765

[Allan]

More from B&H meeting 1970187661876718768187691877018771

[Steve Holmes]

A late 70s photo I took at Amaroo Park - always a full program and a good day of racing back then.

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[Steve Holmes]

From 1970 Benson and Hedges meeting187601876118762187631876418765

Wow Allan, these are magic!

[Dale Harvey]

Oh wow, really cool! Is this a class B/C/D Group C race?

That would have been one of the under 3 litre races at Amaroo. There was a series held at Amaroo for under 3 litre cars. Barry Seton and the late Peter Hopwood off the front row.

[maxspeed]

Here is some photos taken while I was doing Flag Marshall duties at Pukeohe in the 70's
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[maxspeed]

I was in the pits also when Geoff had that little mishap. I knew Geoff well and I had worked on that car. There is a photo around somewhere of the car standing on it's nose just before it went over on it's roof. I wish I could find that photo.

[Milan Fistonic]

Can anyone put a name to the FIAT 125 driver?


Ken Vincent

[Oldfart]

Ken Vincent
I am in close contact with a Ken Vincent, is this the same one who went to the US and returned with a rear engine rail?

[Rod Grimwood]

I am in close contact with a Ken Vincent, is this the same one who went to the US and returned with a rear engine rail?

Yes with Tony McFaydin (think thats how you spell it, had blonde hair) the block layer, and can you give me contacts for Ken as I did a few things with him years back. Got photos of that Fiat doing something else which I may post.

[Oldfart]

Yes with Tony McFaydin (think thats how you spell it, had blonde hair) the block layer, and can you give me contacts for Ken as I did a few things with him years back. Got photos of that Fiat doing something else which I may post.

PM sent Rod

[Rod Grimwood]

This looks like the car Rod

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Thanks Ross, thats it, was a clean fast car. Rod opened a few eyes with the way drove it. Be interesting to know just what did happen to it.

[Rod Grimwood]

PM sent Rod


Have not received it for some reason, can you fire it again

Cheers

[BMCBOY]

I wasn't too sure where to put these, but this will do.
I took these in the pits of 1979 B&H race at Pukekohe when Moss and Hulme raced the VW Golf.
The Tojeiro Jaguar belonged to Ken Smith at the time and Stirling Moss had a few demo laps during the day.
I'll always remember that I was taking a shot just as he was driving off, and he waited for me to shoot for a
moment until I was finished - a real professional.

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[Rod Grimwood]

Ross, talk about professional, see Peter Bruin in photos.

[Robert Bailey]

I wasn't too sure where to put these, but this will do.
I took these in the pits of 1979 B&H race at Pukekohe when Moss and Hulme raced the VW Golf.
The Tojeiro Jaguar belonged to Ken Smith at the time and Stirling Moss had a few demo laps during the day.
I'll always remember that I was taking a shot just as he was driving off, and he waited for me to shoot for a
moment until I was finished - a real professional.

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I can remember ,my 1st real job in about 1982,got talking to a guy next to me about cars.

Turns out he was the son of Ian Green ,who owned at the time the Tojeiro Jaguar #7 GNO,which is the above car?

[BMCBOY]

I can remember ,my 1st real job in about 1982,got talking to a guy next to me about cars.

Turns out he was the son of Ian Green ,who owned at the time the Tojeiro Jaguar #7 GNO,which is the above car?

Yes according to Doug Nye's book "Powered by Jaguar" this is the ex Frank Cantwell and later Ian Green car originally known as 7 GNO

[grelley]

Was this the car Brent Hawes had. If so I recall seeing it sitting for sale outside in the weather,at Speedway Motors in Timaru looking the worse for wear. I think they wanted around 1400 pounds for it. Probably 1966.

[Jeff]

Hi guys , I have 16mm silent film ( quite a bit of it actually ) of the 1976 B&H , at least I think it's 76.
It was a very wet day - VERY wet... and Mike Hailwood and Phil Kerr were sharing a Monaro drive together.
My dad dragged my brother and I ( 10 yrs old ) around Puke all day in the pouring rain while he filmed from damn near anywhere he wanted - we even sat up in the stables for a while and watched the start and first corner mayhem as they entered the old club circuit.
Massive amounts of Chargers and Falcons etc.
I put a very short low quality piece of this film footage on you tube a while ago showing a pitstop and driver change of the Hailwood / Kerr Monaro.
They had constant brake issues with the car but apparently enjoyed themselves.


http://youtu.be/uMDfP2nkiLU

I will have this footage professionally transferred from 16mm film to DVD in the new year and anyone wanting a copy can contact me

Regards

Jeff

[Kwaussie]

Yes according to Doug Nye's book "Powered by Jaguar" this is the ex Frank Cantwell and later Ian Green car originally known as 7 GNO
Here is a link to the Kevin Thomson photo thread - a few photos of the Frank Cantwell roll over from post 2.
http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?629-The-Kevin-Thomson-Collection-part-2-something-old-and-something-well-newer

[Rod Grimwood]

Mate sent me this photo, I have copy somewhere.

This was early 80s, Bay Park sweeper just past start line. It was damp and on slicks. Remember the start as all the big boys spun up the rears and slid from one side to the other, and the little girl got away like a bullet. Then the back straight and I can still hear George going past side ways doing big numbers, and great control shown. I had the best seat to watch as the big boys all went past wheel spinning and grabbing hands full of lock. By end of first lap was back about 6th and heading further back, good days and loved the wet.

[Jeff]

Bruce Manon
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[Jeff]

Some photo's from the 1985 Bardahl series - Cossey's Farm , Drury.
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[Jeff]

Found these early 70's photo's of a race at Pukekohe
Wellington's Alan Brough in his Heatway rally Corolla drives the wheels off it...
and ?? Neil in a formula ford

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[Milan Fistonic]

In the Cossey's Farm thread Jeff wrote:

Jim Richards really excelled on gravel and watching him and Leo Leonard fight out the Riverhead Rallysprint in the late 70's in matching BDA Mk2 Escorts was superb stuff. There is rough but superb footage of the event on You Tube with all of our superb drivers of the day including Mike Marshall chucking the CRC Escort off the road at speed.
I was there that day and loved every moment of it as a kid.
Dad worked for TVNZ (NZBC then ) and mounted in-car and on-car camera's with limpet ( suction cup ) mounts
and sometimes clockwork 16mm film camera's were used as they didn't have a heavy battery and could film for 3 mins at a time.
NZBC were relieved that they had taken the camera off Mike Marshall's Escort before he went off.


Mike Marshall's Escort with the roof-mounted camera.

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Leo Leonard who won the event.

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Part of the very large crowd that was there that day.

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[GD66]

Would that be Merv Neil in the #62 FF ?

[Jeff]

Superb photo's Milan. Many thanks.
My highlights of the day included not only Mike Marshall going off but also Harvard Daniels rolling the rotary engined Purvis Eureka kit car on the same corner and being unable to get out of the upside-down car because the roof lifts up.... hmmm
Also John Cowan rolled his mk1 escort "The Pheonix" on the same corner.
To really cap it off some spectators fell through the wooden roof of an old concrete water tank on that same corner and gave me a good chuckle.
The event was a massive success and as Milan's photo's and the you tube video shows - the crowd was large for our second ever televised rallysprint.
I do recall mention of some stuff being stolen from Mike Marshall's stranded Escort down in the trees but I'm not sure if this was true or just rumour.
The course still exists, even the side-road start line area still exists and that is a rarity in a forest.
The last corner where all the carnage happened has been altered by logging operations but for the most part the course is just the same.
Even the roadside open fire-water tank on the 100mph straight is still there.
I remember the Fredco Toyota Starlet ending up submerged in there in later years.
In 1985 I did a rallysprint in there and it used most of that course and it was bloody fast and scary.

[Jeff]

Yes , I thought the same thing. Thanks
Would that be Merv Neil in the #62 FF ?

[Ross Hollings]

Anyone got a copy of Herald photo of Mike Marshall rolling the Pointen Motors Anglia at Pukekohe, car completely upside down hovering above track,sorry Mike but it was a brilliant shot and was on the front page as i remember.

[fullnoise68]

Anyone got a copy of Herald photo of Mike Marshall rolling the Pointen Motors Anglia at Pukekohe, car completely upside down hovering above track,sorry Mike but it was a brilliant shot and was on the front page as i remember.

Ross, Bob Homewood has got a photo of it. I`ll see if he can post it on here. Barry Pointon is my father in law and he let Mike Marshall drive the Anglia at Pukekohe due to Barry breaking his leg in a workshop accident, he reckons he should have left it in the shed!

[Jeff]

A friend of mine at Hibiscus Coast Motorsport club was so excited and enthused by the event that it was several hours after he got home that day he realised he had left the dog in the forest tied to a tree
In the Cossey's Farm thread Jeff wrote:

Jim Richards really excelled on gravel and watching him and Leo Leonard fight out the Riverhead Rallysprint in the late 70's in matching BDA Mk2 Escorts was superb stuff. There is rough but superb footage of the event on You Tube with all of our superb drivers of the day including Mike Marshall chucking the CRC Escort off the road at speed.
I was there that day and loved every moment of it as a kid.
Dad worked for TVNZ (NZBC then ) and mounted in-car and on-car camera's with limpet ( suction cup ) mounts
and sometimes clockwork 16mm film camera's were used as they didn't have a heavy battery and could film for 3 mins at a time.
NZBC were relieved that they had taken the camera off Mike Marshall's Escort before he went off.


Mike Marshall's Escort with the roof-mounted camera.

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[Ross Hollings]

The Pointon car was beautifully turned out as i remember.Lived near Mike and he was a member of the ACC so new him quite well,his race cars were immaculate especially his mini.

[Milan Fistonic]

Anyone got a copy of Herald photo of Mike Marshall rolling the Pointen Motors Anglia at Pukekohe, car completely upside down hovering above track,sorry Mike but it was a brilliant shot and was on the front page as i remember.

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[Jeff]

Great photo thanks Milan.
That back wheel full of dirt must have played a part in getting him upside down ?
Was the Anglia repaired ?

[fullnoise68]

Great photo thanks Milan.
That back wheel full of dirt must have played a part in getting him upside down ?
Was the Anglia repaired ?

Yes Jeff, the Anglia was repaired and sold. A bit later on Barry then bought two brand new Escorts, and with a young Jim Richards working for Barry at the time, between them they built one into the `Lemon and Paeroa' Escort which Jim raced prior to getting the drive in Jim Carneys Escort.

As an interesting sideline, and one I bought up at Lakeside last year at the Shannons lunch that the HMC guys were invited to, was Barry would get Jim to `do a parts round' in the workshop ute, going to Motorspecs, etc, and sometimes what would normally take half an hour turned into 3-4 hours as Jim would have met another motor racing nut and he`d then go and have a look at who was building what, have some lunch, etc. After a while Barry just accepted it as the norm, as he was very supportive of Jim, and even to this day Jim is openly thankful for the help and support Barry gave him back then.

[Milan Fistonic]

Would that be Merv Neil in the #62 FF ?

No, not Merv Neil.

It's Peter Neil in what looks like the ex-Dauntsey Teagle Merlyn. It was entered by Ross Neil Racing.

[Jeff]

Thanks Milan.
I remember Dauntsey Teagle in his pink Morris Marina rally car circa 1972 Heatway




No, not Merv Neil.

It's Peter Neil in what looks like the ex-Dauntsey Teagle Merlyn. It was entered by Ross Neil Racing.

[225sloper]

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[rogered]

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[BMCBOY]

I have been going through a few more old negatives lately and came across this event.

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[Allan]

These are great photos of what in my opinion were the halcyon days of New Zealand motorsport. Just look at the variety of makes and models. In those days if you could get your bum into any seat you raced it.

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[crunch]

This seemed like the best place to post this photo of Bruce Robertson's Falcon GTHO,not sure who took photo but it is a good one.23580

Even as a young fella I was supporting motorsport financially...I use to buy ice creams from the Hampden Dairy on my way home from school!:p

[Steve Holmes]

Brilliant images Ross! Just outstanding.

[fullnoise68]

That they are Steve, just goes to show `how cool is old school!'

[Bryan]

Fantastic photos, Ross.:D

My first exposure to motorsport was being taken to the B&H as a kid in the early '70s - the FIAT 125T and Charger are my abiding memories.:)

[RacerT]

Remember the Bruce McLaren Trust has 100,000 photographs running from the 50's to the 90's. They have owned these for 14 years now and have been steadily scanning and cataloguing them.

[seaqnmac27]

More old shots from B&H race - 1976 this time

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Mike Hailwood and Phil Kerr Monaro and Dave Winter and Ron Findlay Datsun 1200

Kevin McNamara and Grant Walker Falcon

Ray and Elvie Williams Cortina and Graeme and Tony Lawrence Datsun 180B

Paul Adams and John Woolf Cortina and Laurie and Owen Evans Escort

Robert Barry and Barry Sharp Torana and the Evans Escort

Dauntsey Teagle and Jim Murdoch P76 leads the Falcon

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McNamara/Walker Falcon leading David Oxton and Gary Pedersen P76

Rod Coppins and Geoff Sutherland Charger lead Rod McCallum and Ken Flashman Datsun 180B

Wayne Wilkinson and Bryan Innes Charger

Steve Emson and Neville Bailey Datsun 120Y and Leonard/Pedersen Charger

The Lawrences 180B and Graham Carter and Graham Brownlie Cortina

Wilkinson/Innes Charger

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Oxton/Pedersen P76

Ralph Emson and Doug Bremner and Graham and Graham Anderson in Vivas

Robbie Booth and Allan Woolf Charger

Ron Condon and Allan Stewart Civic and Charles Conway and Bryce Platt RX2

Hailwood/Kerr and Coppins/Sutherland

Vallis Peet and Bill Anderson Corona Trevor Crowe Ron McPhail Datsun and Neal Lowe and Ian Verall Mitsubishi Lancer

[BMCBOY]

Many thanks for naming all those drivers - my programme has long since disappeared.
These seem to be quite popular so here's a few more.

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[seaqnmac27]

Many thanks for naming all those drivers - my programme has long since disappeared.
These seem to be quite popular so here's a few more.

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Mark Reddish/Kevin Rand Mazda 808, Barry/Sharp Torana and Emson/Bremner Viva

Teagle/Murdoch P76

Rex Elshaw/Peter Kocis RX2 and Tony Street/Gavin Askew Datsun 180B

Wilkinson/Innes Charger

Tim Bailey/Mike Smurthwaite Charger Anderson/Anderson Viva

Booth/Allan Woolf Charger

[seaqnmac27]

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What is the purpose of the object above the drivers side window?

[Oldfart]

What is the purpose of the object above the drivers side window?

Coloured lights for crews to identify their cars if memory is still any good.

[seaqnmac27]

Coloured lights for crews to identify their cars if memory is still any good.

Ah, so a little like the codriver lights in V8 Supercars or the Class lights in WEC

[Oldfart]

More like so you could pick out "your" car in the dark.

[Allan]

Some folks used them to signal their requirements at the next pit stop, fuel tyres brakes etc

[BMCBOY]

I hope people aren't getting bored with these! Here are another batch from 1975

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[Rod Grimwood]

Ross, keep on boreing us, brilliant stuff.

[Grant Sprague]

I second that .................... Thanks Ross

[Shano]

No boredom here...

[Rod Grimwood]

Found these in a Auckland Car Club magazine November 1988, not sure of some but some one will know.

1st looks like it is a Rotary powered sports, and someone is after him. Then Datsuns and Commodore is I think Torkler.

This was a National meeting.

[Paul Wilkinson]

The first one looks to be my father in his rotary Chevron...

[Rod Grimwood]

More from meeting.

Pullman in Falcon GT Coupe, followed by Vern Muller.

I know the Escort which is followed by RX3 of Murray Higgins, obscured Commodore, and Commodore Torkler

Dave Smythe in his quick little Escort a nice car this and he still has it parked.

Bob Cullinane in his RX7

And Barry Algie in his Monaro followed by Bruce Manon in his real quick turbo Escort.

[Rod Grimwood]

And the Minis, Burton and Heron at it again.

Don't know the other mini

[Rod Grimwood]

Believe this is the man who now plays with the Alfetta and a Cologne Capri in between other cars. He was quick in this Porsche championship and won it.

Gordon Burr

[George Sheweiry]

not quite Rod! Pulman followed by George Sheweiry in a Genuine Cobra coupe (#211) not Vernes converted XA coupe. lol

[Rod Grimwood]

This is another I discovered, Kevin McNamara at Bay Park

[Rod Grimwood]

not quite Rod! Pulman followed by George Sheweiry in a Genuine Cobra coupe (#211) not Vernes converted XA coupe. lol

There you go got first reply/correction in record time, of coarse George, completely slipped the mind your Cobra, never could keep up with what you were/are in, cheers cobber. PS told Banner to sort his out the other day as well, gee they hard work those boy's.

[rogered]

Found these in a Auckland Car Club magazine November 1988, not sure of some but some one will know.

1st looks like it is a Rotary powered sports, and someone is after him. Then Datsuns and Commodore is I think Torkler.

This was a National meeting.

That commodore, i used to think was " home made"
Turned out it was ex group C car in a GMPa Body
Finished second at sandown ( between brock and moffat) and 6th bathurst in 1980 with Gary Rodgers, fred giestler.
Did i think 4 bathursts before coming to NZ and updated to GP A
Only recently went back to aust for the resto back to group C
o and yes , its torkler

[Roger Dowding]

BMC Boy, man you were / are on a roll, magic, mate, this stuff is so valuable to us racers and semi racers and just car nuts, I gave all my programs away in 2008, went to Pukekohe to most meetings from 1966 to about 1983 b***R, and all my Motorman magazines from 1964 to 1984.. again b- expletive - **

[Habu]

Found these in a Auckland Car Club magazine November 1988, not sure of some but some one will know.

1st looks like it is a Rotary powered sports, and someone is after him. Then Datsuns and Commodore is I think Torkler.

This was a National meeting.

Datsun Sunny in 2nd photo is Steve Gill

[Steve Holmes]

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Just wondering if anyone here has the entry lists and race results from the 1975 and 1976 B&H 500 races?

[seaqnmac27]

Just wondering if anyone here has the entry lists and race results from the 1975 and 1976 B&H 500 races?


Yes Steve, in the 75-77 races the entries were all listed in MotorAction, thats how I ID'd the 76 ones.

[seaqnmac27]

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1. Wayne Wilkinson/Brian Innes Charger, Warwick Chandler/Graeme Nicholls Datsun 1200 SSS and Rolly Doyle/Frank Bray Mazda RX2

2. Ross Calgher/Malcolm Andrews P76, Dennis Marwood/Grant Walker Datsun 120Y, Paul and Sue Adams Triumph

3. Wilkinson/Innes

4. Wayne Jones/George Wilson Datsun 180B, Leo Leonard/Gary Sprague Charger and Wilkinson/Innes

5. Steve Dymand and Rex Elshaw 1200 SSS

6. Marwood/Walker, the Adams', Steve Emson/John Woolf Cortina, Roger Hood and Michael Draper Cortina

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3. Ray and Elvie Williams Cortina and Bill MacPherson/Hugh Tunley Escort

4. Leonard/Sprague

5. Ralph Emson/Doug Bremner

6. Rod McCallum/Barry Phillips Datsun 180B and Dymond/Elshaw

[Jeff]

These photo's were taken at Pukekohe in 84 ? Nissan - Cue series I think.

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1. Alwyn Marshall/Keith Yeats RX2, Jones/Wilson 180B, Marwood/Walker 120Y,Peter Maxwell/Dave Winter RX2, Chandler/Nicholls 1200SSS, McCallum/Phillips 180B.

2. Gardiner/Gardiner Fairmont, David Bjerring/Rex Hart Datsun 1200SSS

3. Don Scott/Brian Green? Falcon, Gardiner/Gardiner Fairmont, Marwood/Walker 120Y

4. Neville Crichton/Kevin McNamara Charger

5. Robert Barry/Barry Sharp Fiat 125, Bill Anderson/Vallis Peet Toyota Corona

6. Robbie Booth/Allan Woolf Falcon, Elvie and Ray Williams Cortina in the background

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2. Barry/Sharp Fiat

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5. Graeme Richardt/John Armstrong Charger

6. Paul and Sue Adams Triumph, Ken Flashman/Neville Bailey Torana, Rolly Doyle/Frank Bray RX2, Ron Kendall Bill Shiells RX2, ?Bryan Washer/Peter Sundberg RX2?

[GeebeeNZ]

Car No 20 in post 159 is my Buckler MkVI known affectionately as the Blue Brick. A car with a lineage going back to Jim Boyd and Phil Kerr in the 1950s and in its current form (as pictured) raced successfully for many years by Graham Main in the 1980s and 90s. In the last 4 years it has been a strong competitor in the Roycroft Trophy at Hampton Downs. It left Auckland today on its way to its new owner in Christchurch. Lets hope we see it back competing in Auckland one day. Graeme Banks

[Jeff]

Thanks for the info Graeme - I always wondered what sort of car that was.
Hope the new owner enjoys a great piece of NZ motoring history.
Car No 20 in post 159 is my Buckler MkVI known affectionately as the Blue Brick. A car with a lineage going back to Jim Boyd and Phil Kerr in the 1950s and in its current form (as pictured) raced successfully for many years by Graham Main in the 1980s and 90s. In the last 4 years it has been a strong competitor in the Roycroft Trophy at Hampton Downs. It left Auckland today on its way to its new owner in Christchurch. Lets hope we see it back competing in Auckland one day. Graeme Banks

[Jeff]

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[Marty]

Great photos, 86 Simpson series Final, I think.

[Jeff]

86 / 87 Pukekohe. Hulme in BMW , Francevic in the Vision hire Sierra

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[GD66]

Is that Graeme Crosby chatting with David Oxton in the Puke pits ?

[Jeff]

Sure is

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Is that Graeme Crosby chatting with David Oxton in the Puke pits ?

[Rod Grimwood]

We were all 'younger' back then Rog.

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Neat photos Jeff. The first two are from the 1985 series. The last one of Graeme Crosby in the ex-Ray Smith/Denny Hulme Commodore would be from the 1987 series after he'd been racing the car in Australia. I think he briefly upgraded this car with a VL front?

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Thats ex-pat Kiwi Tim Slako in the pink Rover. The Mustang would be Robbie Kerr's, which he bought off Dick Johnson following the 1986 ATCC. I think Dick shared this car with Kerr during the 1987 Wellington Street Race series, but I suspect this might be from the 1987 NZ Touring Car Championship? The Mustang is now back in Aus, and raced regularly in the Heritage series for Group C and A cars.

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[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Roger

[seaqnmac27]

There were 2 Volvos in both Wellington races in 87, for the WTCC event Ulf Granberg and Stig Blomqvist shared one, Per Gunnar Andersen and Inky Tulloch in the other, I thought Gary Croft drove with Tulloch in the ealier race.

[seaqnmac27]

Anderson shared the Volvo with Croft in the early race. I think Croft and Tulloch shared the Volvo in 88?

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Sean. So it was the later WTCC race these cars appeared at, and not the January race?

[seaqnmac27]

Do you mean the Volvo's Steve?

[Steve Holmes]

Yeah, the Volvo's.

[seaqnmac27]

Steve there were 2 Volvo's in both 86 and the WTCC round in 87. I cannot say with any certainty for the early 87 race. Here is the start of 86, the second Volvo goes round the hairpin about 40s in.


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[ERC]

Killing a bit of time whilst in the UK (getting up too early) so I thought I'd post a few pics from the portable hard drive I have with me. I still have 100's of 1970s and 1980s and most pre digital stuff to scan and it is a very slow process especially with some of the slides where the glass may need cleaning to eliminate dust and smears.

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[Rod Grimwood]

Commodore Sports Sedan 28 is Jenny Mossman, car built by Lindsay Willis (1 of a few). Jenny was a very fast and tidy driver.
Cobra Coupe 25 at Whenuapai is George Shewiery in one of it's many outings.
Ferrari 97 I think is Stuart McCondach.
And think Nissan 25 would be Kayne Scott

[Steve Holmes]

Rod, is that Jenny Mossman Commodore a different one to that raced by Brett Willis? Is so, has either car resurfaced?

[Frosty5]

per gunner anderson, springs to mind in 1 volvo, i think he shared with gary pederson

Correct, it was sponsored by u-box copiers amongst others. The other Volvo was the Swedish challenge with Robbie Francevic and Thomas Lindstrom. The Swede was technically smart and a good driver. mechanical issue in 86 caused retirement from the race but the Volvo was past it's prime at this stage.

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[Rod Grimwood]

Rod, is that Jenny Mossman Commodore a different one to that raced by Brett Willis? Is so, has either car resurfaced?


A different car Steve, was mixture of floor pan and space frame. Think Mack Workman had car after Jenny or Macks may have been another one that Lindsay built. Think Macks frame was originally for Chris Toms but things changed, and another frame (Mustang) that George Sheweiry has was going to be Tony Rutherfords (he bought a Rouse body back from States), Lindsay was busy back then, and there was a lot of projects started by one and finished by another. Lindsay also built Camaro for Brett that I think he won OSCA Championship in after he and Ralph came back from a stint in Trans Am in States (had a few taking notice after couple of races)

Photo of Camaro test day at old Taupo
Will do some research.

[Rod Grimwood]

Couple of photos from 'the trip' that Brett and Ralph undertook, a life changing experience.
The van in background was tow vehicle, workshop and home while the others all had their big mobile homes and transporters.
The van came back to NZ and became a part of the furniture at North Island tracks especially Bay Park with Cedric and the Fridge Club.

Ralph tickling engine while Brett looks on, 'kiwi magic' across screen. Apparently this is dressed compared to normal attire, shorts, jandels. People just looked and wondered, until the first couple of races, and the wondering stopped and they just looked.

This trip could/should make a great book or movie. They had fun.

[Rod Grimwood]

Motorsport Show on Princess Wharf in Auckland in late 80s,

Willis Commodore unclad for all to see, little Escort in middle of some serious horse power with Sheweiry (Siddy) on other side.

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[Steve Holmes]

Wow, these photos are fantastic! Rod, I didn't know Brett Willis had raced a Camaro in the US. Is this the same green car he raced in NZ that you've posted above?

[Steve Holmes]

86 / 87 Pukekohe. Hulme in BMW , Francevic in the Vision hire Sierra

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I've just realised something. The pic of Francevic in the Sierra, must be the ex-Rouse BTCC winning car that sat on pole at the '86 Wellington Street Race. Interesting, as this is the car Francevic drove at Bathurst in 1986 after parting with the Volvo Dealer Team. A lot of people have been trying to find this car, with the trail going cold following Bathurst, and people weren't even sure it had returned to NZ. But this photo proves that it did. I wonder where it is then?

[Frosty5]

I've just realised something. The pic of Francevic in the Sierra, must be the ex-Rouse BTCC winning car that sat on pole at the '86 Wellington Street Race. Interesting, as this is the car Francevic drove at Bathurst in 1986 after parting with the Volvo Dealer Team. A lot of people have been trying to find this car, with the trail going cold following Bathurst, and people weren't even sure it had returned to NZ. But this photo proves that it did. I wonder where it is then?

Steve, have a look at post # 184. Rouse's car is RHD whereas post # 169 seems to be LHD so dont think it's the same car. I drove the transporter with the ex Rouse car from Bathurst to Port of Melbourne after the '86 race and although memory has faded a bit I am sure it was RHD. Will check my videos (yes I still have some of those) of Bathurst '86

[Steve Holmes]

Yeah I had to do a double-take there Dave, as it really looks like the car is lhd. But if you look at Robbies right shoulder and the sunlight on it and the edge of the seat, I think it could be rhd.

I just found this image, which appears to be at Pukekohe? Its probably from the same event. The car is definitely rhd here.

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Yeah I had to do a double-take there Dave, as it really looks like the car is lhd. But if you look at Robbies right shoulder and the sunlight on it and the edge of the seat, I think it could be rhd.

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[Rod Grimwood]

Wow, these photos are fantastic! Rod, I didn't know Brett Willis had raced a Camaro in the US. Is this the same green car he raced in NZ that you've posted above?


No, Brett bought car in states and left it there. His dad built the green car (now in South Island think)

Bought engine back and reckons if they took their car to States it would have been more competitive.

[Rod Grimwood]

No, Brett bought car in states and left it there. His dad built the green car (now in South Island think)

Bought engine back and reckons if they took their car to States it would have been more competitive.


Steve, Just had chat with Ralph, and he is going to fill in some gaps here about cars and trip which I may do on new thread, as it will be a great read.
The car in States had history, and the trip I think made history. (making history being something you discover/hear about at a later date)

Steve maybe PM me

[Rod Grimwood]

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[hilstwist]

Great photos. I thought I went to all the B&Vs but must have missed that one as I don't remember the Jag anyone know the drivers and how it did in the race?

[seaqnmac27]

It was Robbie Lester and Robert Orr. They lasted longer than expected but still retired.

[BMCBOY]

It was Robbie Lester and Robert Orr. They lasted longer than expected but still retired.

I remember that the Jag was very competitive until the inboard disc brakes fried the oil seals in the diff and forced its retirement - my second photo in earlier post shows the 'cooking' oil smoke coming from the rear of the car.

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Fabulous photos thanks for sharing but has anyone got an entry list?

[stubuchanan]

Much to my surprise I do have the programme. I will scan it tomorrow and put it up.

Stu

[hilstwist]

So I'm assuming one of the Chargers won?

[stubuchanan]

Programme page with entry and graffiti - hope you can read it looks a bit ropey!

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Winners were Leo Leonard/Gary Sprague Charger. I must have disposed of most of magazines from late 70's in a house shift so this is all I can find so far. Damn!

I see I had noted positions at various distances, and Pedersen/Oxton Leyland P76 was leading at lap 157. I wonder what happened after that. Oh, turned page and there's more. At lap 174 Wilkinson/Harrington, Phillips/McLean, then Leonard/Sprague. Then at lap 267 it was Leonard-Sprague/Phillips-McLean/Pederson-Oxton. That may have been the final positions as programme showed 9 hours duration, not an exact number of laps and 267 laps is about 960 kms - close enough??

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[John McKechnie]

Dauntsey Teagles P76 comes out to race at Historics periodically, was that raced at this meeting?

[tonttu]

Much to my surprise I do have the programme. I will scan it tomorrow and put it up.

Stu

Thanks very much Stu

[seaqnmac27]

Programme page with entry and graffiti - hope you can read it looks a bit ropey!

http://s6.postimg.org/7m59otcvl/Benson_Hedges_1977_Prog002.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Winners were Leo Leonard/Gary Sprague Charger. I must have disposed of most of magazines from late 70's in a house shift so this is all I can find so far. Damn!

I see I had noted positions at various distances, and Pedersen/Oxton Leyland P76 was leading at lap 157. I wonder what happened after that. Oh, turned page and there's more. At lap 174 Wilkinson/Harrington, Phillips/McLean, then Leonard/Sprague. Then at lap 267 it was Leonard-Sprague/Phillips-McLean/Pederson-Oxton. That may have been the final positions as programme showed 9 hours duration, not an exact number of laps and 267 laps is about 960 kms - close enough??

Stu Buchanan

2 Entries did not start, the second P76 - Hogg/Marriott and Bryan Bate/Bob Donaldson Cortina. The winner covered 270 laps. The Oxton/Pedersn P76 probably would have won, but at 5.30 a front brake caliper had worn through and welded itself to the shoe. The stop to replace the whole caliper unit cost 8 minutes. That is according to the report in MotorAction

[stubuchanan]

2 Entries did not start, the second P76 - Hogg/Marriott and Bryan Bate/Bob Donaldson Cortina. The winner covered 270 laps. The Oxton/Pedersn P76 probably would have won, but at 5.30 a front brake caliper had worn through and welded itself to the shoe. The stop to replace the whole caliper unit cost 8 minutes. That is according to the report in MotorAction

Yes, that tallies with the notes I must have taken down from the PA system. At lap 157 the Oxton/Pederson P76 was leading the Chargers of Wilkinson/Harrington and Leonard/Sprague by a lap, and then by lap 174, Leonard was leading and the P76 was seventh, 3 laps down. Information system must have been pretty good that year.

Stu

[BMCBOY]

Here's some more photos from the archives of '78 B and H. I seem to have shelled out for a roll of colour film as well which after 40 years, the negatives perhaps haven't stood up as well as the b&w negatives.
Anyway still nice to have a look at - perhaps stubuchanan still has an old program he can scan again to fill us in with all the drivers names which is brilliant.

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[Rod Grimwood]

Photo 3rd down is the late Nick Begavic, he was a very handy driver and also co-drove a Falcon with Dick Johnston but unfortunately the seat back broke. Remember Nick co-driving a 60 lap race at Waikaraka Park with Ron Kendall, first guy did 30 laps then race was stopped to infield for driver change and refuel. We had some laughs with Nick getting him in and out of the Mazda. Remember, doors welded up. If they did not win, they were right at the pointy end anyway.

Next photo of a couple of young Millen boys.

1st photo is Robbie and the Typhoon Mazda.

Very last photo (colour) of 1600 Sports is Elvie Williams in brown car. She was quick.

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[stubuchanan]

[QUOTE=Rod Grimwood;43684]Photo 3rd down is the late Nick Begavic, he was a very handy driver and also co-drove a Falcon with Dick Johnston but unfortunately the seat back broke. Remember Nick co-driving a 60 lap race at Waikaraka Park with Ron Kendall, first guy did 30 laps then race was stopped to infield for driver change and refuel. We had some laughs with Nick getting him in and out of the Mazda. Remember, doors welded up. If they did not win, they were right at the pointy end anyway.=QUOTE]

Can't imagine why the seat-back broke.

Note for BMC Boy - Sorry I haven't got a 1978 B&H programme, probably I didn't go that year. But I do have the 1979 one so just ask if your photos go that far.

Stu

[hilstwist]

Many thanks for posting g these photos,love seeing those Calvin's,cottonseed,P76 etc

[hilstwist]

Not what I typed!!! Should read falcons,Cortinas etc

[fullnoise68]

BMCBOY, is it possible to email me the top photo of Rod Coppins in the No 5 Charger to vmt@xtra.co.nz for my own collection please?

[Grant Sprague]

Beaut piks thank you ...... I had only one pik of my brother in the XC that I gave away to a ford fan but now more are springing so cool that they are showing up ..

[BMCBOY]

Note for BMC Boy - Sorry I haven't got a 1978 B&H programme, probably I didn't go that year. But I do have the 1979 one so just ask if your photos go that far.


Thanks Stu I would like to have a look at it to put names to the photos.
My photos of 79 event are on post 114 - the year Stirling Moss appeared.
Ross

[BMCBOY]

Beaut piks thank you ...... I had only one pik of my brother in the XC that I gave away to a ford fan but now more are springing so cool that they are showing up ..

Thanks Grant - here's a couple more from the archives for old times sake.

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[Grant Sprague]

Thank you BMC.......pretty cool pik ,, never saw this car as was out of country but looked a hand full Bro would have not thought so though , you can see SCF on window same banner same on my mustang , very supportive was Allan regardless of what happened years later from the [too many chiefs dept]

[Milan Fistonic]

Here's the 1978 entry list.

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And here's the 1979 list.

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[BMCBOY]

[QUOTE=Milan Fistonic;43729]And here's the 1979 list.

Many thanks Milan - that's great to have.

[GD66]

He's struck again ! Nice work, Milan.

[seaqnmac27]

The interesting car on that 79 entry, is the orphan Peugeot 504 of Nick Begovic and Eric Morgan. I was curious as to the driver line up after seeing Ross' picture of it. Can anyone tell that story? 79 is the only B&H report between 75 and 82 I do not have.

[rogered]

im impressed with nick begovics range of co drivers. Of the top of my head he has had , derek bell, dick johnson, denny hulme. Im curious as to how he managed this

[Grant Sprague]

I think Nicky would spend some of his money:cool:

[Oldfart]

From what I have learned of the Peugeot entries in such races, and they as a company supported to some extent the entries, I suspect they looked for good drivers at a level of expenditure that was under control. I can ask someone who will have more of an "inside" answer

[Milan Fistonic]

im impressed with nick begovics range of co drivers. Of the top of my head he has had , derek bell, dick johnson, denny hulme. Im curious as to how he managed this

Graeme Lawrence in 1977 and Mark Thatcher in 1980

[928]

was that before or after thatcher got lost?

[Oldfart]

I have done the promised research on the Pug 504. Connections with Campbell Industries have no idea why he had any connection with that entry.

[seaqnmac27]

was that before or after thatcher got lost?

Before, that was the 82 Dakar, seems he was fine at Bathurst in 79, fine at Pukekohe but dunes were too much

[928]

so, no black stuff to fall off and he gets lost

[Oldfart]

Black stuff he was on his own, Dakar had navigator?? :)

[928]

you mean there are 2 nohopers in the world?and the got into a cor and drove off into the desert? really?

[Milan Fistonic]

John Osborne and Wayne Huxford arguing over the same piece of track at the 1986 NZGP meeting.

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John Windelburn's Special TransAm after an incident at Rothmans.

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Dick Johnson at the 1985 Benson & Hedges.

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Nissan Sport 500 - Pukekohe - Feb 2-3 1985

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[Michael Clark]

Great memories there Milan

I owned the Fiat 130TC up until 25 months ago. It now lives in Melbourne